The Cake Eaters - 97. Ex-Wife Killer
Episode Date: November 19, 2024Heath & Brandon find another Marguerite Moreau classic to watch, Ex-Wife Killer. The boys talk through their love for Connie and Guy, Brandon's obsession with Hallmark and Lifetime movies, how Bra...ndon was right about Diddy all along, gaslighting and bullying, and the very literal nature of this movie's title. Follow us on Instagram @thecakeeaterspod Email us at thecakeeaterspod@gmail.com
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It's not worth winning if you can't win this! I just watching the preview of this movie and like that dude gaslighting her to thinking
that the other lady was the killer. My God.
Dude, I was hoping, I was hoping there was going to be like some, before we get into it, do you got a song you want to sing?
What kind of, what's an ex wife killer song? Oh my God. Psycho killer.
Oh my god, psycho's like a French.
It's psycho killer, cake, I can't speak French.
It's like, kiss, kiss, kiss, fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa Run, run, run, run, run, run away. Oh my God.
I do like that song a lot though.
Talking heads, talking heads are legit.
And talking heads.
Yeah.
It's, it's good.
You know, it's a, it's a fun one.
Break it down at Halloween.
You know, it's a, it's a good Halloween song for the Halloween playlist.
Exactly.
We are, we are in, uh, actually we're just past Halloween now here.
Uh, when this episode will drop.
Yeah.
But, but that's okay.
Cause you know, we were just, but it's still very, very spooky movie.
He's ex wife killer starring the one, the only, uh, Marguerite Moreau, also known
as Kylie Moreau in the ducks universe.
I got, I was, I was waiting, I was with bated breath for a Gee to come out and save the day and he never did.
That son of a bitch.
I mean, you know, we love love on the podcast and-
We do.
We are noted lovers of love.
Yep.
And Connie and Gee are our favorite couple forever and always.
And so anything Connie does, to be honest with you, is...
I'm in.
Yeah. I agree.
You know, part two of why I kind of tolerate this movie,
Connie's name in the movie is the same name as the most adorable,
you know, Havanese that is on the brink of heart failure
that you could ever see. you know, Josie.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
Those Josie's flowers.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's amazing.
And now I have to, you know, when, when Josie passes, I'll have to start
like a flower shop in her honor.
You should play this movie at her funeral for everybody to watch.
As a celebration of life.
There's probably a lot of other Josie's out there in the world that is not like
this weird and depressing.
Like this is the pussycats, Josie and the pussycats.
So we're starting this off honestly, really Josie and the pussycats.
My God, you know, Kelly does love that movie.
Like she, we, we have it on, we have it on DVD.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What, what, what a household doesn't have Josie and the Pussycats on DVD.
You know, what is like the elite of all elite DVDs that I have, um, still that
I didn't sell when I moved, uh, surf ninjas.
Okay. Okay.
Right?
Rob Schneider in his finest, in his glory days.
Oh, Rob Schneider have glory days?
He's a-
Yeah, don't you remember the animal and Hot Chick and-
What was the other one?
I'll give you Hot Chick.
Hot Chick's good.
Animal was terrible.
So bad. It was so bad.
But those like we Rob Schneider terrible movies were really like in the rotation.
That doesn't shock me.
Our middle school and like hangouts, you know, like.
You and Polly Shore.
First of all, Sun and Law is we should do it again for Thanksgiving.
Like next year. We're is we should do it again for Thanksgiving. Like next year.
We're not going to do it again.
We should do it again.
Like a like a part do, you know, Sun and Law thing.
If you can get get somebody that was in the movie to come on and we'll do a part.
Get somebody who was in the movie to come on and we'll do part two.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
All right. Fine. I'll give you that. That's right.
Especially if you can get Paulie, if you can get Paulie.
My God. You know, like maybe I can just like try to lure him like, dude,
I, if you, if he's doing his own podcast, he's doing his own podcast. Yeah.
We could do a tit for tat. You know, we can go on his really boost it,
boost his numbers. Yeah. I mean, how his, his fans definitely want to hear from us.
We have a lot of great things to say.
And honestly, I think Polly would really appreciate like the chokehold
that his movies had on our household as, as a kid and how, you know, Heidi,
Heidi and I were constantly like, we'd be like, oh, time to munch on some grindage.
Uh-oh.
Have you seen that?
It was a couple of months ago,
but there was a TikTok trend of,
I forget what probably short movie it was, but-
What?
They were, it was like making fun of Gen Z,
like slang and stuff.
And it was like us millennials are the true,
like I forget what the wording was,
but they were using a Polly Shore quotes for it,
like for slang and shit.
You think Ohio rims and stuff are bad.
You haven't seen anything until you watch, you know,
a Polly shore movie marathon.
In the army now is his most underrated movie for sure.
It's so good.
Sure.
I'll share.
I'll take your word for it.
I hate Andy Dick. Andy Dick is the worst.
And he's a terrible person.
Yeah.
Well, it's, it's every, like, this is what I don't understand is when people are surprised
when like Hollywood and like these big power for people.
It's like, I cannot believe they were terrible people.
It's like, well, what, what about celebrities being terrible surprises you?
I'm more shocked when it's like wait. Are you a good person?
Yeah, you know like it's we need to change our view of Hollywood because they are all horrible people
It's too much. Yeah, it's too much idolizing when people like cuz uh was Taylor was getting a lot of God
She was getting a lot of slack for not like endorsing Kamala
And I just kept thinking to myself, why, why do you care?
What? Why do you care what Taylor who Taylor's vote for?
That shouldn't make any difference.
We don't know for sure if Taylor has a good decision making process.
Like, I don't know her like that.
I would. I. You know, like, I mean, I would like to assume
she does based on the wonderful business that she's done in the like, you know, I, yeah. You know, like, I mean, I would like to assume she does based on the wonderful business that
she's done in the life.
Like, you know, like she's done so much.
How much of that is, you know, if she, if she picks her presidents, like she picks her
boyfriends, I'm out.
Yeah.
I'm going to say it because you're going to, you're going to sound like a boomer, Brandon.
All right. I'm going to get out of here. We you're gonna sound like a boomer, Brandon.
All right, I'm gonna get out of here.
We're gonna get the Swifties after us.
Maybe that'll be good.
That'll help.
That'll be how this blows up.
I don't actually.
Yeah, maybe we should.
And I can like trigger Kelly and then she can trigger all the other.
I'm good with being the bad guy.
You know, if you either, you know, die the hero or live long enough to become the villain.
I love doing the villain.
I got a lot of skeletons in my closet.
People will have a heyday.
Wait, Brandon, Brandon, are we entering our villain era?
I've been there.
I've been there since I was born, I'm pretty sure.
I just haven't, you know, I haven't done anything
noteworthy yet, you know?
Let me switch that up then.
You are accidentally coercing me into my villain era then. worthy yet, you know, let's let me, let me switch that up then you are co you are
accidentally coercing me into my villain era.
Then I'm dragging you into it.
Yeah.
And it's great man.
Come hell or high water.
It's fucking over dude.
Dude, I've been replaying the Harry Potter game.
It's been a really good time.
And I, uh, created myself as like my Slytherin alter ego.
And I have been bullying everyone and it has been hilarious.
It's like, it's like, oh, so can I get my gobstones back?
And it's like, yeah, but I want a little extra pay
because that was harder than I thought it would be.
So you're gonna end like, I would like, like, you know,
like the shop owners, they'd be like, Hey, can you go find this? I would like, like, you know, like the shop owners, they'd be like,
Hey, can you go find this?
I'm like, actually, you know what?
This is pretty dope.
I think I'm going to keep it.
And they're like, what?
And I was like, well, I won't keep it
if you're going to pay me.
And, and then they won't do business with me after that.
It's really good stuff, man.
Like I've been having a lot of fun being a bad guy
in that game as much as you can, you know?
Yeah. fun being a bad guy in that game. As much as you can, you know, people, people always say it, it, it doesn't
cost anything extra to be nice, but they always forget to mention how fun it is
to be bad, you know, yeah, it's true.
It's true.
There's a reason people love to be bullies.
It's a hell of a fun time.
Like I, there was a comedian I saw on TikTok recently
that said that it's like, okay.
So I don't think like bullying is a bad thing,
but I do think we need to bring a little bit of bullying back
because people are going unchecked.
And like there should be accountability
for being a fucking nerd or a loser.
Because I was a dork and like my friends would bully it out of me if I was being a fucking dork.
You know?
And then I quit acting like that.
I completely agree.
In the quest to end bullying, I fear what we have done is we've gotten rid of the good kind of bullying. And we've introduced a whole other level. Thanks to the internet of
the work,
psychotic bully of the worst kind of bullying. Yes.
Oh my God. Like the in person, like, dude, you gotta check yourself because then
you're going to act like a fucking idiot in public when you get older, you know?
What's, uh, yeah, what's it's Mike Tyson, right?
This online stuff is mortifying.
Oh, it's terrifying. But is it Mike Tyson?
Yeah, yeah. People have gotten.
Yeah, one thousand.
You are. Yes. Do you remember the quote?
It's something like people have gotten way too comfortable
not getting punched in the face or something like that, right?
Is that what it is? I couldn't remember the exact quote.
Yeah, it's something.
It's something in that ballpark because I remember hearing
because like some dude at the airport was like like on the
airplane was harassing him and he just fucking punched him
and I'm so glad he did because like you watch that video.
It's like dude, he's a person leave him the fuck alone.
He doesn't owe you anything.
Yeah, dude, that stuff or I was, did you watch the CU game last night?
This is going to date the podcast a little bit, but it was,
Oh my God.
The CU Baylor game was wild.
But so at the end, when they're all storming the court, the court, all storming
the field, right?
They beat Baylor.
What the fuck are you storming the field for beating Baylor?
I have no problem with, I, I've no, I was, I say storming the field after every
win, my problem, the issue I had was
These motherfuckers are running up to like Dion and should err
These like 18 year old kids and they're like hug it like I saw a security dude have to like fucking push a dude Off of sugar Sanders because he was like running up and trying to hug him and jump on him. Do you believe don't touch people?
Please don't touch people. Yeah, like they don't, and like that's why people
have gotten too comfortable, right?
Like they, we've like celebrity and in sports celebrity
have allowed people to come into their lives
at such an intimate level that people feel like
they know them, right?
Like, oh, that was probably one of his biggest TikTok fans.
So he was like, dude, like why, you know,
like in the human brain, like for some reason no longer comprehends like common courtesy and things like that.
It's been a really weird con like, you know, deconstruction of the society, not to get
too philosophical, but like my God, you know, like there's no common courtesy. If there,
if, if he was like, you know, if he had common courtesy in his bones,
he's probably from California and one of those fucking losers that moved to
Boulder and then all those boulder kids are trust fund California kids.
They're fucking the worst. Yup. They just fucking suck. Um, but anyways, yeah,
it's just like people should do her and then,
and then what would have happened if she do her,
but then like clocked him to like get the fuck off of me.
It would have been this whole thing about, right?
I would've, I would've whipped around to him
with my helmet, you know,
like get the fuck off me.
Like I have a hard time like not going into fight or flight
with someone being nice to me at the bar.
It's like, who the fuck are you to?
Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Yeah.
You're trying to buy me.
Hey, hey, what are you being so fucking nice for dude?
Trying to buy me a drink. What are you putting in it?
Do I'm not like that dude, no diddy. That's have you seen the kids are saying that?
No, I just want to say how I need to be vindicated on you always hate on me for my hater takes.
My hater takes usually turn out to be right case in point my diddy theory
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I called that from a fucking mile away. Nobody would listen to me
Yeah, you and 50 cent, huh? And cat williams that cat will yeah me
Interview like when you can't mean cat have been eye to eye for decades, dude
When you sent me that interview, I was like my god, that is hilarious
But then I didn't realize that it would be prophetic.
You know, I fucking, I've known it for decades, dude.
Diddy's a maniac, dude.
And I still think he killed Tupac and Biggie.
Yeah.
Oh, for sure.
He killed Biggie to get his whole, he got his whole fucking, he made all the money off
his album sound like, right? Like he got his whole, whatever ground his whole fucking, he made all the money off his album sound
like, right? Like he got his whole, whatever you call it portfolio. Anyway, should we get
back to this movie? It's, let's get back to the movie because this movie's terrible. And
so we're going to derail and like anything. Cause like, let you can say, finish your thought
there Brandon. And then let's jump into the movie. Cause my biggest take is just, you
know, shitting on it. I was just going to bring it back as a speed of like terrible things and bullying
and all that this movie because I love coming.
Yeah, Connie is the best, but I was just going to bring it back to the movie
about how the terrible things.
And bullying and all that and the the the gas, the gaslighting in this movie is a plus
tier, a plus tier. The, the level, the levels this guy goes to is unbelievable.
But you know what level he forgot to go to was to delete his security cam
footage. How do you, how do you, how do you forget that?
Yeah. And if we learn nothing from Diddy, right?
It's, it's, you got to do that at least.
You can't be, can't be stockpiling that shit.
It's going to, it's going to cost you in the end as much blackmail as you can grab from it.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's on the internet.
So like it's always, you can't like truly delete it, but at least delete,
delete the file that's right on your desktop.
Yeah.
Make them, make them have to fight on the cloud.
Yeah.
It's, you know, it's anyways, it's so this movie, Brandon, I don't know your
take, but it's, I'm not much of a drama guy.
You know this, I'm not much of a thriller guy unless it's like, you know,
something that's like written about, it's supposed to be amazing.
Um, and to me, this was just the,
the shittiest version of a Hallmark Christmas movie.
Well, I'm, is it a lifetime movie of freedom? It's actually a lifetime movie.
And that's what I like, but like it made me appreciate the Hallmark.
Like my mom's really going to appreciate this movie because like it made me
double down on it's like, you know what? I don't like these, this movie at all,
but it made me, you know, understand the value
of those Hallmark Christmas movies.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, this, this movie makes, what is it?
Is it Dear Santa?
Yeah.
Santa baby.
What was it?
Love Santa.
Love Santa.
This movie makes Love Santa look like a goddamn
Kind of still like that movie though. I watched it with my family
Yeah, that one's solid. I love that one. Yeah. Yeah, it's it's not the whole I mean, there's obviously massive plot holes
You know one of my favorite things that they do terrible in Hallmark movies is the airport.
Oh yeah.
They do such a bad job with airports in Hallmark movies.
It just, it always cracks me up.
But anyways, this movie, if you are a gentleman
and you're like, dude, you know what my goal is?
And my goal is to be the biggest piece of shit gaslighter
that's ever dated. Like come, come watch this movie.
He was, he's good at it. He had me fooled.
So good. He had me fooled.
For the whole movie.
Well, not for the whole movie.
Well, not towards the end, but like the whole beginning, I was like, God damn,
I maybe didn't do it.
I went waves. Like I was like at the very beginning, I was like,
this guy fucking sucks. And then, and then he started gaslighting me.
And I was like, okay, maybe he's not
terrible. Maybe, maybe, maybe the twist is going to be that he's not terrible.
Um, but no, there was, there was no twist.
That was just about to say the twist in this movie for me was that there was no
twist.
I was like, oh shit.
So it's very straightforward.
Yeah.
Right.
It's kind of, it's right. Yeah. I was like, Oh shit. So it's very straightforward. Yeah. It's kind of, it's right.
The title.
Yeah.
That's it.
It's a working title.
That is, that is the most valid invalidating point of the movie.
Right.
Like it's, you spend the whole movie watching it and the, the result is the
title the whole time, just staring at you. It's like they're whole movie watching it and the result is the title the whole time.
She's staring at you. It's like they're mocking you.
Yeah, just I'm just digging for every M9 Shyamalan twist and turn and all I get is exactly what I should have expected.
My god, it was it was not enjoyable at all. Brandon. I'm not going to lie.
Like I had some fun parts. Not really. I tried.
I started multitasking because like I was standing at my desk watching it.
That's what I started doing for our movie watches.
I stand at my desk and watch them because it forces me to pay attention.
So my ADHD doesn't start fucking spiraling out of control.
But this I had to start pacing around.
I started like folding clothes and I watched it.
It was, I was just, I was like, oh my God, Brandon,
what the fuck did you do to me?
This is another one of those like hour and a half movies
that felt like two hours.
Really? This thing flew by for me. Cause it was, I mean, is it even an hour and a half movies that felt like two hours. Really? This thing flew by for me.
Cause it was, I mean, is it even an hour and a half?
I feel like it's like, it's gotta be less than that.
Yeah. I don't know.
I was so like out on this movie halfway through.
And then when the conclusion was the conclusion,
what I thought it would be, I was like,
what the fuck was the point of this?
I was like, what was, what was the actual point? maybe just to validate that all men are gaslighting creeps
It is an hour and a half hour 25
uh
All of them except for uh, what's his name? Um
What's her what's her uh, uh her co-workers name bernie brady brady brady. Yeah brady
Brady br Brady Brady Yeah
I'll everybody except for Brady Brady was legit yeah but he was friend zoned so
hard
well that was really weird because if you remember the conversation she's
having with her her friend the one that gets killed who went on one date with
Brady she's taught she like friend zones, uh, Connie,
like friends, her name's like, I'm going to call it. We always do this.
I'm going to call her Connie. Yeah.
Josie Josie.
Actually, I can't keep doing that because she keeps picking her head up.
Like, what do you want me? I'm like, I'm sleeping. Will you back the fuck off?
Uh, but Marguerite Connie slash Josie, she, uh,
the conversation she has with her friend,
she like friend zones Brady because he's too cute.
Was like, that was the impression I got.
Well, that's it's, it's exactly.
It was just, you know, I do feel like this movie is just validating so many like things
that like, cause it was like, all right, so that nice guy is just a little too nice.
And so I'm going to hit him with that friend zone.
And that makes sense.
That's what I saw does, you know, like it reminds me of like, you know, it's,
it's the girl that's always around the dude and she kind of knows that he likes
her, but deep down she's like, you know, he just doesn't, you know, it's like,
it's like you and I and Nick and Schmidt from new girl, right?
Like we just need a little bit of like sizzle, a little sparkle, a little magic.
I was wondering where you're going with that.
When you were like, it's like you and I, we got to, we got to have a little,
you know, no, no Diddy, you and I though.
But, uh, but, uh, her, her friend that's getting killed, um, she was all about Brady. Poor girl.
Yeah.
Fucking she got, she got friendzoned by him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was, that was too bad.
And that's how it always goes.
You know, it's like the circle of life and, oh my God.
And like the, the ex-wives, uh, vet buddy
just got his throat slit for no reason. Like, geez, I hope those pets, like, you know, I hope that they
have like at least a second vet. So like, you know, imagine having to try and find a new vet
cause your doctor's throat got slit in the office. Well, they do have a second vet. It's the ex-wife.
Well, they do have a second fetus, the ex-wife. Oh yeah, I told you.
I should have known that.
She goes to the clinic halfway through to confront her after the dude ODs himself on
ketamine.
Oh my god.
But they have the whole argument or whatever. And yeah, the girl, the the ex
wife, I forget her name. What was it? Laura? Laura. She's she goes, because Connie's called
she's like, she's she's he's gas. The ex husband. What was his name? Mike? He's gaspining Connie into thinking Laura is crazy
and a psychopath. So she's bringing that up while she's here and Laura are having a confrontation.
Laura goes, do I look crazy to you? I run the most successful veterinary clinic in LA.
Do I look unstable?
You know what the other issue was in all this?
No one ever called the cops.
Well, he can't call the cops because he's, he's, he's laying.
Um, well, I mean like Connie at the early stages of the movie, when people are like
creeping up on your house, you can at least call and report suspicious activity, you know?
You could, but I mean, they're not going to, they're not really going to do
anything if the, that's true.
Yeah. They, they, they, well, they can't do anything until something happens,
you know, I guess, but my God, uh, but, and then he never calls the cops,
even because he's the one doing it all to himself. He's the one, he's the
one slash and tires. He's the one giving himself ketamine. He's the one he's the one slashing tires he's the one giving himself ketamine he's the one
when you look back at it the amount of stuff that like the lengths that he went through he was really trying to other than other than deleting the fucking video evidence he really went out of his
way to you know lay the groundwork and lay the story down. Yeah, it was, it really was like, and, and, oh, for, for, oh, sorry, for all
the terrible things about this movie, the one thing that they actually did do a
good job was like Michael's like character arc and like how, like he was
such a good gaslighter, he was such a, like they did a good job as painting
him as that like psychopath.
Yeah, they definitely did. Um, um, especially towards the end when, when, um,
when his, when his like house of cards started to unravel and like the true
psych, psychosis started to like bubble to the surface.
Yeah. And then like right before the, it starts to kind of crumble and he's trying he's
Like right when he pulls off the the killing of Laura, but you know
at the winery or at the the the vineyard and
Then he's everyone died
Yeah, you know I was kind of surprised from a hallmark or not home
I'm but a lifetime
movie that so many people died.
Oh, the life don't do the lifetime movies get dark.
Uh, um, they get real dark.
Um, so yeah, that didn't shock me at all.
Except for Brady didn't die.
Break it lift.
Yeah, you're right.
But like, I'm just, I was just surprised at the body count at the end of the day.
And it was only what one it's only three, four, if you count Michael for bodies.
Um, more than I thought there'd be.
Yeah.
But he, he, they do a really good job of kind of, um, yeah, setting up his, his,
his looking back while the movie's going, it's very, it's a little hard to follow.
It's kind of all over the place.
And then you look back and you're like, okay, now that kind of makes sense.
I guess, um, especially when he's, um, once he kills, uh, once they're in the
vineyard and he, you know, fakes Laura's death after she's already died.
Um, that was kind of, cause I forgot how many days had passed.
That was a little weird on how, uh, um, you know on how he was keeping, the logistics of keeping the body
and then shooting it again and all that kind of stuff, it left a lot of questions. But
after he performs that whole performance when he locks Connie in the door,
uh, in the room, and then he goes back and he's like, okay, he like gives her like this whole
pep talk while the cops are coming about like, Hey, as long as you tell them the truth, everything
we, you know, we'll have everything, every, all of our dreams will come true. Um, yeah.
Yeah. Just ultimate gaslighting. Oh, that, that was really like, my God, that was like, that was crazy.
Yeah, that was that was crazy when when where like, there's just the trauma
from like seeing all these dead bodies and then the, you know, you can just gaslight
people in their state of fight or flight.
Yeah. Yeah. When they yeah, when they're yeah, like you said, the trauma hits and they
have no fucking idea what's going on.
They're disassociating.
And so you can just like plant the reality within their head.
It's that's some, it was some wild shit.
Terrifying.
And they were married before this.
Yeah.
That's, let me tell you this.
She, she sure doesn't, does not know how to pick them because she you know, rejects the Brady's of the world and you know starts to oh that I cannot believe she didn't see through the whole business proposal thing.
Oh my god that was terrible.
Yeah. Yeah, that was yeah. She like well she starts off that was sketchy from the jump. And she seemed to like be
like, Oh, yeah. Yeah. She started off with her guard up.
Because apparently they based on her reactions, they had a clean
break. Do they ever say what he did to her? Did he just cheat on
her? I think so. Okay. So she but she from like when he first
comes in and the first interactions, it appears she had like a very clean break other than the
him being tied to the business, which was just a that's just a symptom of the divorce and all that.
But yeah, but then she falls she, it falls real quick.
Once he starts gaslighting her, her, her, her walls fall right down and she falls
right back into, into just doing whatever he says.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And just gaslighting is fucking scary, man.
It's powerful if you can, if you can do it right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, if you ever want to do yourself a favor and watch some Love Island,
the gaslightings in that show sometimes is like, my, like these dudes, some of them,
because they're so good looking, right? That like, they just can get away with it because they are so
handsome and these girls just fall for it.
Hook, line and sinker.
It's wild, but like you can't also kind of blame them because if like, you know,
a dude that is like cut, like a Greek God is like telling you some shit,
you might just get like lost.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Like, I mean, that was like not creepy as way possible. No diddy, right? But like, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's just like, like, Kelly laughs at me all the time.
Cause I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. I didn't even know that six packs could be like 12 packs. Like it's, it's some of that shit is wild. And then you can't kind of blame them because it's like, well, that dude is so dreamy.
I might let him gaslight me a little bit too.
You know?
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
It's like, did you need me to like move your couch for you or something?
I will, you know, it's so big deal.
I got you.
Anyways, can't wait to see how we present that in the title.
It was like, you know, is he victim or somewhat supportive of really hot dudes
gaslighting?
You sounded pro, pro hot dudes.
I know, I know.
And that's, it's not going to look good, but you know, it's, and, and, you know,
like, but it's not just dudes, right?
Like it's how many girls that look like the girls on love Island can get away
with actual murder because it's like, well, you know,
good looking people do get away with a lot, but I mean,
it's not just good looking people, ugly people,
ugly people gaslight the shit out of you too. Yeah. Yeah.
So you know who gaslights the most is stupid people because they think that
they're right, but they just don't know how they're just not self aware enough
to know that they're incorrect.
Yeah.
It's just, it's, uh, um, natural.
It's just natural gaslighting because they think they're right.
You know, they're not even, they don't even think they're gaslighting.
They're not even trying to gaslight. So it's like, I can't even think they're gaslighting. They're not even trying to gaslight.
So it's like, I can't tell if you're gaslighting me
if you're actually this stupid.
I don't know what's worse either.
Yeah, it's a lose-lose, you know?
Anyways, I did make a note in my notes that like,
we love Connie, but there was a moment
where she was trying to do some like crying
and it wasn't necessarily the best cry you would see from, from someone.
Yeah. Well, I mean, this is again, it's a lifetime movie. We're not,
we're not looking for a plus acting, you know,
we're not trying to win any awards here. He's worth just chugging through the
plot. You know, we're trying to get to the, to the drama.
My, my final note of like the 10 things that I wrote down
was just wild finish to a terrible movie.
Yeah, I mean.
Like that was a wild finish.
Yeah, it's a lot of,
it's not necessarily a wild finish,
but everything happens at the end.
It's a lot of boring nonsense until you get to like three quarters of
the way through and then the friend gets killed and then everything at the end happens.
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Sorry, I was coughing.
But yes, it was a build, build, build, build, build.
And then like, yeah, but it was a terrible, but not like good bill.
It was like, what the fuck is happening now?
Like, what are we doing?
I don't know if it was if it was the movie or if I'm an idiot.
But it took me the longest time to realize,
I felt like every time I saw Laura, she looked like a different person.
So I thought there were multiple characters.
Like it took me-
Multiple X, Ys.
It took me like the whole entire movie
to realize that she was the girl at the very beginning
in the security footage.
I like didn't put that together. I was like, are we ever gonna figure out who that lady at the very beginning in the security footage. Um, I like didn't put that together.
I was like, I was like, are we ever going to figure out who that lady at the beginning was?
And then I realized, then I realized it was Laura.
So I, Jesus, I feel like that is a combination of you and the movie because like, you know,
you just weren't paying attention.
I guess I just, I just couldn't, I just, I guess I didn't get a good look at the fit
at her face and the security footage.
So I couldn't like put two together and I think she had a different hairdo too.
Didn't she?
Well, I don't know, Brandon.
You know what it sounds like to me?
It sounds like you're racist against, you know, white women with blonde hair.
They all do look the same.
Yeah.
So just that's, that's wild.
Just that's, that's wild. Um, I mean, I, I don't, if, if you are looking to kill an hour and a half and you really enjoy straight forward, like thriller drama movies, this is for you.
If you, yeah. If you like lifetime Hallmark movies, uh, this is right up your alley.
Or if you just like Connie, if you just like Marguerite Morel.
Yeah, which, you know, if there's any ladies out there that aren't a lady, they're a duck.
Then yeah, you know, that's one of my favorite lines in the, I'm not a lady, I'm a duck.
I feel like that's, you know how Schwarzenegger always works and I'll be back into everything.
I think Marguerite needs to start doing that where no matter what movie she's in,
she needs to start working that line.
And yeah, I, I agree.
And I think that you should slide into her DMS and gently suggest that I've, I've
tried sliding into her DMS before she did not respond.
Oh dude.
She, she probably, she probably blocked you.
She probably saw your profile picture and was like, my god.
Blocked.
I don't think you can tell what's going on in my profile picture.
It's so far away.
You can't.
You can't.
I was just being a dick.
But I slid into the DMs from the podcast because I was trying to get her on the pod.
There's no way she's going to respond to that.
I don't do Twitter.
I'm an Instagram person and I feel like most people are Twitter people.
So I feel like sliding into the DMs on Instagram is fruitless.
I got to beef up the Twitter game.
Maybe that'll work better.
Start tweeting. Yeah. I'm gonna beef up the Twitter, the Twitter game. Maybe that'll work better. Tweetering.
Yeah, yeah.
The only one that's ever responded to me sliding
into the DMs is our good friend of the program,
Mark Chavez.
What was, what was, Terry the account?
Yep, on Game Changers.
Game Changers, what was? Stepped Terry the account? Yep. On game changers. Game changers.
What was, uh, you know, stepped into the box when what's his face started
playing on the team, but anyways, we don't need to talk about game changers.
Brandon, we, it's, we, you know, we got NFL football staring down at us.
We can, we don't need to just, just you wait.
The next couple of movies are, uh, all game changers.
So, uh, you know how I feel about feel about that Brandon one of them is a teenage mutant ninja turtle movie though
So yeah, and I guess what I'll give you one guess how I felt about that movie
Yeah, and so already I'm kind of mad that you're gonna force me to watch it again, oh
Yeah, we gotta do it for the pod. We got it. The people are
it again. Oh, yeah, we gotta do it for the pod.
We got it.
The people are demanding it, Heath.
They're not like everyone.
People in right now probably don't even know that game changers ever happened because Disney
tried to wipe it from their record.
They were so embarrassed by it.
I don't think anybody's listening to the podcast after we stopped talking about the ducks.
It's also very true.
We're spending our time well with the pod, but you know, it's, it's, it's, you know, we do it for the 10 people in Eastern Europe that enjoy our podcast.
The 10 people in Eastern Europe and then your uncle that happens to listen to it too.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, some people, some people that I know will jump in on the movies outside of
the Ducks.
So, you know, like, uh, like Kelly's friends that really like musicals jumped in on the
newsies, you know
One of my buddies. Did you tell them to listen to theater camp or theater band? What was that one theater camp?
No, no, I did not
That's the genesis of the fanny pack boys, dude
Jesus I forgot about the fanny pack boys that yeah, what's his face from real bros was so good in that movie. But no, that one of my other, uh, coworkers is actually checking it out for a
goofy movie.
Like he was, he was all in for a goofy movie.
He's like, hell yeah, he's, this is, this is good shit.
One of, one of my coworkers, um, I told him about it, uh, like a month or so ago
and he's blessed as hard.
He's the nicest guy ever.
He's going back and listening.
He's listening through game changers right now. And he's, and he never, He's the nicest guy ever. He's going back and listening. He's listening through game changers right now.
And he's, and he never, he said he never even saw the series.
He's just listening to the, to the episodes through our, so God, God bless
his heart, the dude is, he's doing the Lord's work.
Oh my God.
I am like, I am flabbergasted right now, Brandon.
Like that is, that is the best work.
You too.
You two would get along real well too.
He's, he's got all the, uh, all the dad jokes, all the quick little, you know, witty little, um,
little zingers, I guess you would call them, right?
Like, I guess, I guess they're little zingers.
You know how I love to just like throw something out there and see if it sticks.
So it's like, I used to be so bad at that.
Like when I was younger, I would just say things out loud.
Like my life was a sitcom to see what the reaction would be.
And like, where would go?
You used to be Kevin James.
That's what, that's what it was.
You used to be Kevin James.
Yeah.
Yeah. Like I would just, that's what it was. You used to be Kevin James. Yeah.
Like I would just just out there manipulating everybody.
I would say things like I was like practicing a standup bit.
And some of it was just like, you know, now is think looking back.
It was this cause like some people, right?
Like I, luckily I'm pretty good at reading the room.
And so like, depending on my audience is like how I would tailor the, the
wild, you know, shenanigans I would try to start.
You know, but I also had a drinking problem.
So, you know, that could have gotten into like, like I was reminiscing back on
college the other day and I was like, you know, looking back, I actually
am really worried about like 19 to 22 year old Heath.
Like that was not good.
Like you should not drink that much. And then I'm like, you know, I,
it's so weird. I have these crazy stomach problems.
Well, I killed it.
Cause your liver's failing Heath.
I killed it. It's because your liver's failing, Heath.
Yeah, like all my stomach lining was like burned away from binge drinking and getting half alcohol poisoning for half of my college career.
But you know, everyone wakes up to their room, you know, covered in vomit sometimes.
I just can't say I've ever done that.
Yeah, it was wild. It's a good night. I think I broke my hand that night've ever done that. Yeah. It was wild.
It's a good night.
I think I broke my hand that night on accident.
I fell over.
I was trying to, um, I was just jump on a dude and he, and he ducked his shoulder and
I just went up over top of them and landed right on my hand in a weird way.
Every time you, it's just, you keep opening more questions up when you try, when you try
to, you didn't when you try to,
you didn't, you didn't just like jump on people and you got excited to see.
I feel like you're, you're trying to clarify stuff. So I don't ask more questions, but you're just making me want to ask more
questions.
I think the best answer is like,
remember when we first met and I was 30 years old and I was pulling all kinds of
shenanigans. Imagine me a decade before that.
I know that doesn't help the listeners, but like at least for you and your brain, it's
like, I, you know, I pushed some boundaries when I was 30.
Imagine when I was 21 and with no filter.
I'm glad I wasn't there.
Sounds terrible. Kelly is always like, I wish I would have met wasn't there. That sounds terrible.
Kelly is always like, I wish I would have met you like in your wild fun days.
I was like, you would have hated me,
but the passion thousand sons during those days, like the,
like I was like a gas lighter dude, you know, where I would just like,
Kevin James. Yeah. It was like, he, you're not spending enough time with me.
I'd be like, well, I feel like you are potentially
trying to manipulate my time when I've already made plans
with other people.
Nice move.
Yeah. Thank you.
For any of the bros out there.
Yeah. Put that in your pocket and see what that's related.
That one's for the boys.
Oh goodness. Goodness.
Yeah.
Young Heath would be a fucking nightmare.
Not that young Brandon was a beacon of society himself.
But I was a menace to Wayne America for about two and a half years.
It was cheeky, wild menace,
but there was some menacing behind it.
You know?
Yeah.
Anyways, a little insight into like
what a terrible person I was in my twenties,
but you know, such is life.
Yeah, you live and you learn.
Yeah, you know what?
At least I own it, right?
Like I don't pretend like it's like, oh dude, I was so cool.
And it's like, well, I had cool moments, but overall I was a psychopath.
I was having my own struggles.
Yeah.
But now you're better, you know?
Yeah.
Now I'm aware of it.
And so I don't act like that anymore.
It's like, not going to be that.
Now, you know what? The perfect way someone described me the other of it and so I don't act like that anymore. It's like, oh, I'm not gonna be that.
Now you know what? The perfect way someone described me the other day, Brandon, you don't appreciate this.
They were like, you know, because Kelly was talking to him, they're like, well, he's kind, but he's definitely not nice.
Yeah, yeah. No, that's right. I think I've described you that way before as well. Okay. Yeah. Yeah.
I was like, Oh my God, that is a very really good depiction of me. Cause I think I, I think I called you polite, but not nice.
Okay.
That's yeah, it's, that's that Midwestern like upbringing though.
Like I will always be very, uh, like absurdly polite and then, and then I
will not be nice right after it.
Yeah.
Anyways, anyways, all right.
We got to, we got to stop before the, like, you know,
someone I know listens and they're like, you know,
are we sure Heath is at a place that he should be
in the company?
Like this is, this is making us nervous.
It's true.
You know.
I didn't even, yeah. This is making us nervous. It's true. Anyways. Do you have any other, should we do cakey's? Did you guys do anything else?
I don't think I have anything else to point out.
It was okay.
We did this specifically and solely for Connie Moreau, just because Marguerite's the best.
Um, yeah, 1000%.
We love Connie.
We're big Connie people here.
Um, love that her name was Josie in the, in the movie. That was probably my favorite part.
We are a, uh, pro Connie podcast forever and always.
Yeah.
I mean, do you have your cakey rating?
I thought about this one.
I have mine kind of like right handy because
it's it's it's not great. You go first. I'm not entirely sure
how I want to do it. You know, so for this movie, X wife
killer, shout out Connie and shout out to the name Josie. We
love all things Josie in this household. She is delightful, even though she only has a few teeth
and is mostly blind.
But my cakey rating for this movie,
because I did not like it.
I was mad at you the whole time I was watching it.
You do this too.
Sometimes, honestly, Brandon, I start these movies
and I wonder to myself, is he doing this on purpose?
Like is he, is he specifically picking these movies that he knows I'm not gonna like just so
that I have to like waste an hour and a half of my time just being like, what the fuck am I watching?
Like, God fucking damn it. I could have done so many things. There's so many things you can
accomplish in an hour and a half. Would they be productive?
No, absolutely not.
But it's still, I could have been doing so many other things.
So anyways, I would just, I hope that's not the case,
but sometimes I wonder that where I'm like,
I think he picks the worst, like if there's like four movies,
it's like, you know what?
He's going to hate this one the most.
Let's grab this one.
I try to, I don't do that. I try to I try to do it either on theme or like when we were doing D2 I tried to do as many of the D2 kids. You know, I try to keep it with like right after we did D2 we do, I tried to do a bunch of the D2
movie kids movies. That's why we did like Newsies and all that. And then after D3,
you know, I was trying to, well, this one I did, cause it's coming, it's going to
come out right around Halloween. So I was thinking spooky, spooky season.
Which is why we, which is why we did idle hands and cruel intentions as well.
Yeah. I don't hands is my favorite out of all these movies that we've done.
So my cakey writing for ex wife killer, one and a half cakes. It just, I,
I feel, I just, I feel a little bad, but I just, that's it.
That's just pretty high. Honestly. Yeah. And that's it.
That is the one cake is for Connie and the second and the half cake is for the
name Josie and that's, that's it.
That's, that's the one that's the half and I didn't like it.
I didn't like spending my time watching it.
One and a half seems pretty high though.
Cause I, I'm going to go lower.
I'm going to go one, one point two five.
This movie.
Well, no surprise that I'm a little generous right like it's it's I say usually I am
Unless it's a musical usually I give it a higher rating than you do I
Think maybe you're just I think that like you're kind of gently turning me into a hater. Oh
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you, you are the company you keep.
I've never been known to keep great company,
but I'm going to 1.25. Um, cause it's, it's not good. There's no, there's no easy way to put it. It's not good, but it is Connie. Yeah.
I agree. Yeah. Um, I, I don't buy into these like lifetime thriller movies.
They're okay for like, uh, you know, like a weekend morning when you're like,
throw it on while you're cleaning.
You're literally not watching it.
You just need noise because the silence of life is deafening upon your ears.
Exactly. And then you, you look up and you're like, Oh shit, that girl's dead.
Knew it knew it was. Only a matter of time.
Yeah. But so yeah, 1.25.
Love, love Santa. Love you, Santa.
Love always Santa.
Love always Santa. Way better.
If you're looking for a Connie movie.
Yeah. Oh yeah. Great. Great. Great.
Like for the holidays come coming up.
It's true. It's holidays are coming up.
You know, throw love always Santa on it'll, uh, bring you some holiday cheer.
Yep. Yep. Cheers and fears. But anyways, you know, it's, uh, you know, it was, uh,
it was a bad movie. If you're wondering what happens, just read the title and move on.
Exactly. Exactly.
That's it. That's all the advice I can get.
You don't even need to go to Wikipedia and read the plot or the synopsis. Just
take what the title gives you.
Ex-wife killer. Hmm. Wonder what happens. I'll tell you what. He kills his ex-wife
and just a couple extras along the way. Yep.
Almost killed his ex-ex-wife.
So almost killed his ex-ex-wife. Yeah.
Two ex-wives.
Then it would have been the ex-ex-wife killer. So you