The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - Aging, Health and What's Wrong with Fiat Medicine with Dr. Ahmad Ammous | The CBP

Episode Date: August 7, 2025

FRIENDS AND ENEMIESDr. Ahmad Ammous is an American educated doctor who was fed up with the failures of the modern medical sphere. Now, Dr. Ammous works with patients and clients with a focus on natura...l, functional ways to improve health and longevity while attacking core issues instead of just treating symptoms.Dr. Ammous on X: https://x.com/AmmousMDDr. Ammous' Website: https://ammousmd.com/Join us for some QUALITY Bitcoin and economics talk, with a Canadian focus, every Monday at 7 PM EST. From a couple of Canucks who like to talk about how Bitcoin will impact Canada. As always, none of the info is financial advice. Website: ⁠www.CanadianBitcoiners.com⁠Discord: https://discord.com/invite/YgPJVbGCZX A part of the CBP Media Network: ⁠www.twitter.com/CBPMediaNetworkThis show is sponsored by: easyDNS - https://easydns.com EasyDNS is the best spot for Anycast DNS, domain name registrations, web and email services. They are fast, reliable and privacy focused. With DomainSure and EasyMail, you'll sleep soundly knowing your domain, email and information are private and protected. You can even pay for your services with Bitcoin! Apply coupon code 'CBPMEDIA' for 50% off initial purchase Bull Bitcoin - ⁠⁠https://mission.bullbitcoin.com/cbp⁠⁠ The CBP recommends Bull Bitcoin for all your BTC needs. There's never been a quicker, simpler, way to acquire Bitcoin. Use the link above for 25% off fees FOR LIFE, and start stacking today.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 Do I have a treat for you guys tonight I'm going to be joined shortly By Dr. Ahmad Amuse Ahmaud is an American trained doctor I mean, you can see it in the bio. I'll be honest, just like I said to him before we went live. Selfishly, I am looking at my own situation here coming up on 40 in a few years. And I know a lot of you guys are in the same boat.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And I thought, you know, when I look on Twitter and see the way that Bitcoiners are thinking about like training and thinking about eating and thinking about things like sleep and the, you know, the grind and stress. and blood pressure, and there's a million things going on, you know, once you get past 30 or 35. And these are, I think, in no small part, thanks to media and Fiat medicine, they're difficult waters to navigate. And Dr. Moose is going to help us sort of separate the nonsense there from good advice, good information. And I want to give them to give us some best practices and best habits. But before we start, as always, the sponsors, EasyDNS.
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Starting point is 00:04:25 We like that offer. and we appreciate them sponsoring the show as well. Here's Dr. Ahmaud, a moose. Sir, I have to tell you, I've been looking at your Twitter feed. Oftentimes when I have guests on, especially first-time guests, I don't agree with everything they say.
Starting point is 00:04:41 I agree with almost everything you say, though. And so, you know, most of the time I would say, okay, well, you know, we'll have some points of disagreement and we'll be able to talk a little bit about the things I like and the things I don't like. But I either agree with what you say or I don't know enough to disagree.
Starting point is 00:04:54 So we're going to have some fun tonight. First of all, I want to thank you for coming on. How are you doing tonight, my friend? Thank you, Joey. I appreciate the invite. Honor to be here. Excellent. Tell people a bit about your story.
Starting point is 00:05:05 I think a lot of people obviously know that you're a doctor. You have some gripes, legitimate, I would say, with the medical, I don't want to say with the profession, but with the field. We'll call it the field and the research and some of the accepted norms. But tell people a bit about your history, your education, and how. How did you get to where you are now in terms of your thinking about medicine, specifically fiat medicine, I guess? Yeah, so I'm a physician.
Starting point is 00:05:34 I've always dreamt of being a physician. My dad was a physician, and he inspired me. I've always wanted to follow his role model. I worked hard to get into medical school, and in medical school, I was just very disappointed with how the system works. I saw people who have had the same disease for 15, 20 years. They've been taking all the medications as their doctor prescribes because that's what all modern doctors do, just give medications.
Starting point is 00:06:01 And still, I have asked them, how much improvement did you get with these medications? And they would tell you maybe 30%. And it was very disturbing for me. I've worked so hard to get into medical school. And I have all these years ahead of me of training still to go. And all of this, just to improve people, people by 30%.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And so it was it was a bit of a like a tough moment in my life and I decided to just go in and search for well why doesn't modern medicine work for people? Why don't pills work for people? And I discovered
Starting point is 00:06:36 that the medical system is very broken and very corrupt. And I've kind of made it my mission to try and raise awareness about this for people. Talk to me a bit about this corruption in the medical system. You know, one of the things I think, I'll speak personally here,
Starting point is 00:06:53 and for the people that I know, Bitcoiners and non-Bitcoiners. One of the things I find, Doc, is that unless you've been through the system for a significant illness or a traumatic injury, it's hard to understand just how left wanting you will be when it comes to your treatment plan. The example I always give is, you know, I have a few of them at this point, unfortunately. But, you know, the example of my, I tore my Achilles playing basketball a few years ago, maybe three or four years ago. And when I went to the emergency room here in Canada, I waited for, God, I don't know, eight hours or something like that in a room full of people who also needed attention.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You know, I don't fault them for that. But when I was able to see a doctor, the doctor diagnosed me with a calf strain, you know, and I had to sort of navigate the system for myself in the following 24 hours with this Achilles tear until I was able to get into a cast and see a confidence. orthopedic surgeon. And so, like, this is a difficult thing. I think for people who are on the illness side, they notice that, like you said, they're on medication forever. It's a lifetime subscription to things like statins, for example, or other medications for chronic illnesses, like, I don't know, what's a good example?
Starting point is 00:08:06 Maybe gout in someone my age or a little older or any of these other illnesses that you find you're just taking pills every day or every week or going for injections. or whatever. And I think one of the reasons I have a hard time describing to people that the system is broken is because they've not experienced it themselves. They've never been through a traumatic injury or an illness. And I wish them no harm and no involvement with the medical system, obviously. But from your point of view, what are some of the things people should be looking at when they're considering whether or not a system like the medical system is corrupted by money? Obviously, I agree with you. But I'm curious for people who have not experienced
Starting point is 00:08:44 there. How do you convince them? What is the red pill you give them? Yeah, I mean, if you, if you go to a car mechanic in order to get your car fixed and you leave the mechanic and the car is still not working, that's a very good sign that this mechanic sucks. The unfortunate reality is that all of modern healthcare sucks that we take it for granted that I leave the doctor's office not fixed. And this is how bad the system is. And And this has only been the case for the last 100, 120 years. This all started in the early 1900s with the creation of our modern medical system. So it started in the U.S., but unfortunately it migrated everywhere because of the strength of the U.S. dollar.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It started with something with the creation of the American Medical Association. And the goal of the American Medical Association was to standardize medicine in the U.S. And they based their policies on this report called the Flexner Report, which was written in 1913. And the goal of the Flexner report was to standardize medical education everywhere, to make it so all medical schools follow the scientific way. On paper, that sounds very romantic and great and progressive, but the reality is what they actually did was shut down any medical school that taught anything. that wasn't pharmaceutical-based medicine. So before the 1900s, you would get sick. There are different kinds of doctors you could go to.
Starting point is 00:10:20 You could go to a homeopath, you could go to a naturopath, you could go to an osteopath, physical manipulation, all other schools of thought. But because in the early 1900s they discovered that there's so much profit to make with these pills that we can patent, they wanted to make it so that their medicine is the only medicine that's practiced. And this coincided with a huge decline in the quality of medical care that people were getting.
Starting point is 00:10:48 But because everything else had become illegal, nobody realizes how messed up modern healing is. Okay. So, okay, this sounds familiar, obviously, to Bitcoiners. People don't realize how bad things are because they have not explored any options. And some of those options have been made illegal by the state. you know nowadays when i when i think about what you just said about like different kinds of doctors and levels of expertise it's funny i think most people would agree that they get the best results when they go to a silo specific expert my in my case when i go to a physical therapist
Starting point is 00:11:24 for an injury i often get more help and uh someone who is willing to address the core issue rather than give me a pain pill to help me overcome the hamstring pain calf pain whatever and get you back on in the field. When did physicians, sort of general physicians, just become like referral machines? Because it seems to me that when I go to my GP, you know, I'm just told, well, you know, I can't really help you unless you want this pill.
Starting point is 00:11:51 If you don't want this pill, then I can't help you and you need to go see another doctor. When did this become the norm? Because, like, you know, the GP goes through much training. You know this better than most. And it seems to me that regardless of this mile wide, inch deep knowledge base, there's actually no expertise that can be given to you by a GP that you couldn't get from Google. And yet you need the GP as your sort of foot in the door to
Starting point is 00:12:17 the rest of the system. Why is that? What is going on in medical schools that general practitioners, general physicians can't give you any sound advice anymore? Maybe that's just me. I mean, if I'm wrong about that, tell me, but it seems to me to be the case. No, it's 100%. I mean, the way the medical school structure is created, it's how can we teach you a skill that can make money for the system? So that's the entire model is, so are we going to teach you how to perform expensive surgeries? Are we going to teach you how to sell these expensive injections? Or are we going to teach you how to sell these toxic but expensive medications? So the people who sub-specialize are the ones who get to the point where they make the big bucks and get big bucks
Starting point is 00:13:07 to the system. The ones that don't really specialize become the general practitioners. And it's not because they're dumb or because, you know, they're inferior. It's just they weren't taught the skills that the specialists do. And the skills that the specialists do is also on something that's not that great for you. It's just, it's the most specialized and the most money-making. thing for the system. In your opinion, then, should people be going to doctors as a first line of defense from whatever ails them? Like, I didn't think we would get to this question, to be honest with you, but we may as
Starting point is 00:13:43 well talk about it. It sounds to me like there's at least some possibility that going to a doctor is not only not going to help you, but you may get advice that's not accurate or misincentivized. So is a doctor really the place you want to be going as a first line of defense against, you know, injury, sickness, whatever, or is there somewhere bad? better that people should go. Maybe the better question is, is there somewhere more, where there's somebody more competent than a general practitioner in 2025, but they should go? Yeah, I mean, you will find some gems out there between, you know, in the, some hidden gems, some doctors
Starting point is 00:14:20 that actually like to think outside the box, they like to look at your diet, they like to look at your lifestyle. It's, they're very hard to come by. And it's, it's, it's, you know, it's, it, you you won't find it in just the random general practitioner that you find. The important to point out is the modern medical system is not completely, you know, in the wrong. It's treatment of acute injuries and trauma and burns. The progress we've made over the last, you know, 30, 40 years is absolutely incredible. Like a patient would much rather get hit by a car now than they would 40 years ago. So definitely seek medical attention for things like that.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Unfortunately, that the model of, you know, you come in, we do something to you, and we discharge you, you're better, you're better, that model doesn't work for chronic disease or for everyday ailments. That model, in order to fix these sorts of issues, you need to address people's lifestyle, which modern medicine doesn't do. And so if you're going to your general practitioner for things like that, their only thought is, what's the quick fix? And the quick fix is always a pill or a referral to someone who is going to do a more complicated procedure for you. And that might be detrimental for some people.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So let's talk a bit about some of these chronic illnesses, chronic diseases, and some of the chronic misgivings that I think people are experiencing. Maybe we'll start with that, and I'll let you guide a little bit here. For someone who's 25, there's probably not much wrong. Things are good. They barely even get hangovers when they drink. They never get hurt. They're made a rubber. And when you turn 30, things start to change.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And 35, they change a bit more. 40, they change a bit more. But there's things that are affecting people at 30 that maybe they don't realize is going to compound and make their 35 and 40 years. years a lot more difficult. What are the things in your view that are affecting people without them realizing they're being affected by it that are going to make life difficult for them five, ten years down the road?
Starting point is 00:16:37 I think, I mean, people talk a lot about diet. I think that is probably number two for me in the importance. I think number one most important thing is our light environment. We are constantly living in an environment surrounded by artificial light. This is a very foreign environment than the environment we were evolutionally adapted to. And the reason is, is that LED bulbs, which emit blue light, they emit blue light in a spectrum. Like, blue light doesn't exist in isolation in nature. It always exists with other colors from the spectrum.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Blue light directly on your body is actually toxic to yourselves. So if you are living under blue, light all day, that is detrimental to your health. It's detrimental to your circadian rhythm, it's detrimental to the way your cells generate energy, and it's going to make you age faster. The best way to overcome that is to try and be outside as much as possible, which I know is not easy for Canadians. But as much as possible, especially during the summer, you want to be getting as much sun as you can. So this, I think, is a very, very important thing that most people, they have a lot of work to do in that area.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Some people can't change the blue light. I'm guilty. There's two surgical blue lights in this room. I'll have to do something about that. But some people can't change it. Like if you work in an office setting, an office environment, chances are it's difficult for you to get away from that. Because that's what the light people want against all manner of recommendations.
Starting point is 00:18:20 And even I think it's obvious now to a lot of people, they feel worse under blue light. They can't sleep under blue light. There's all sorts of apps to cut the blue light out of your phone and everyone wears those red glasses now. Let's say you can't avoid it though, Doc. You know, what are the mitigating things you can do? I think a lot of people find themselves in this situation, by the way,
Starting point is 00:18:37 where they're working or living or whatever in circumstances they can't alter or cannot affect change in. And so what they're doing is trying to mitigate in their personal time these effects. What can they do while they're living under a blue light in front of a computer, for example, at work to mitigate the effects, something like that. I actually didn't know that, like, when you say it affects your cells energy production, like, that's not something I knew.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I knew about circadian rhythm, but this other stuff is news to me. Yeah, it's quite incredible. Like, the rabbit hole goes very deep. It's a lot more than just circadian rhythm and sleep. Your mitochondria have this certain proteins called cytocromes, and they are actually light sensitive. And say they do better when they're exposed to red light from the sun, but they do worse when they're exposed to isolated blue light.
Starting point is 00:19:26 So, yeah, some strategies that people can do is try to see the sun in the morning before you see any artificial light. Even if it's cloudy outside, just being outside when, you know, the light is out, you're getting some photons of light, which is helpful. Have that be the first light that you see in the day. before you see all the artificial blue light. And then if you are at work under LED bulbs all day, try and take breaks outside, take a walk outside, five, ten minutes.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Even if it's cold, just exposing your eyes to the light outside is helpful. The blue blocking glasses, there are the red ones that you use at night. There's also the yellow lenses, and these are good if you're sitting, you're sitting on a computer for all day. And then in the summer, try and be outside as much as possible. On the weekends, try and be outside as much as possible. This is, I remember, tell me if I'm wrong about this. I remember hearing from somebody that it actually,
Starting point is 00:20:34 this idea of exposing yourself to natural light early in the day actually doesn't work if you're experiencing the light inside through a window. That's true or that's, okay, you're nodding. Yeah, tell me why. Yeah, I mean, so a lot of, the ultraviolet and infrared that you need from the sun doesn't go through the windows. So you have to do it outside. It being in a room where there's a window is better because you are getting the natural, you know, light rhythm of the sun.
Starting point is 00:21:06 It will set your circadian rhythm. But in order to get the beneficial photons, you want to be outside, at least your eyes, you know. Yeah, I didn't realize it was that significant a part of, yeah, healthy. light diet we'll call it one of the other uh trends i want to talk to you about is this uh trend of we'll call it like hyperhydration okay you can see me drinking out of a water ball to here the size of a you know a small um uh artillery shell and i feel like i'm drinking water all the time then everyone i know is drinking water all the time whether i'm thirsty or not i'm having a sip here sip there sip before bed sip in the morning it feels to me like big water is making a lot of money
Starting point is 00:21:46 These Yeti cans are $100 fucking dollars each. Everyone's got a Naljean bottle, no BPAs. Everyone's got water all the time, stickers for the bottles, and need a water break. I realize hydration is important. But there are some people, especially in the fitness community, that say that too much water is actually detrimental to the way you digest food. I understand that there's at be some potential that if you drink water too quickly after eating, you're washing away enzymes that are being used in your system to properly digest and absorb the foods
Starting point is 00:22:16 that you're eating. Is there true to this? First of all, do you know, about this thinking, this theory? I assume you do. And if you do, is there true to that? Is there like a limitation to the water people should be drinking? Is there a best time where to be avoiding water, for example, that people just don't talk about. I see this all the time. People hammering waters. And I think, I don't know. Speaking of evolutionary adaptations, I get the feeling that, you know, in the Serengeti desert, we weren't hammering waters all the time chasing deer. So tell me about it. Yeah, I mean, so your body does a very good job of balancing the water that you need based on how much you give it. So, I mean, you could do well with six glasses a day, but it could also make you adjust to drinking 12 glasses a day.
Starting point is 00:23:03 How much you need is based on your activity level. I think a lot of us feel thirsty all the time. It's not because we need water. It's actually because we need salts. So the stressful lifestyle that we live exposed to artificial light, eating bad food, all these things,
Starting point is 00:23:24 especially if people are active and sweating, you need a lot of salts to make up for it. And if you are drinking like tap water or filtered water, a lot of these salts are not there. And so if you want to make a comparison, like buy an expensive water bottle like a Fiji, and drink some of it versus drink a glass of filtered water
Starting point is 00:23:49 and you're going to feel a lot more hydrated by the Fiji water and it's because of all the ions that are in it. Wait a minute. If you had told me that Fiji water, I mean, maybe not you, but if someone who wasn't a doctor, told me that Fiji water was going to hydrate me more,
Starting point is 00:24:06 I would have said, that's bullshit. I don't buy that. I don't buy the labeling. I don't believe this. What do you mean the ions in it are more hydrating than the tap water. Because when people think about this stuff, oftentimes you hear bottle water is a scam.
Starting point is 00:24:21 There's nothing to this, right? They might have some filtration process. It makes it taste a little different than other water and different from each other. But overall, the sort of level of benefit is the same. Whether you're drinking out of your hose as an eight-year-old in your backyard or you're drinking a $4 Fiji. Might actually be like an $8 Fiji.
Starting point is 00:24:38 I have no idea. What do you mean by this ion stuff? So very good distinction in water, in bottled water, to look at like filtered water or versus like bottled water from a spring. So Fiji, Avion, here we have Poland Spring, all these brands, they are directly bottled from a natural source. while other like smart water or the sannie, what they are is just, you know, city water that's filtered. Okay. The difference between these two is the ions that are in the water,
Starting point is 00:25:19 as in the minerals, magnesium, sodium, potassium, calcium, etc. And a lot of our craving for hydration is to get a solution that has these. So if you keep drinking a lot of filtered water that doesn't have these ions, you're not getting enough, and that's why you keep craving more and more. Can you supplement that with diet, like with the food? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, if you, my general recommendation is if you're drinking filtered water, make sure you have a good quality salt that you're using in your diet.
Starting point is 00:25:54 So like good Himalayan salt or good Celtic salt, these salts are from, It's always better to buy land salt rather than sea salt. Land salt contains more ions versus sea salt. And these can help overcome the lack of minerals that you're getting in your water. This is actionable advice, land salt or sea salt. I had obviously never thought about that. The only salt I have in my cabinet. I don't even know what it is.
Starting point is 00:26:23 It's pink, whatever that means. Talk to me a bit. Speaking about the salt in my cabinet, I say this to my wife all the time. I'm pretty sure every time I grind that salt onto anything. It's more plastic coming out than salt. This microplastics thing, everyone talking about, there's microplastics in my skin, in my water, in my balls, no matter where I'm going. Okay, if you do a cross-section of me at any given time, I'm like, you know, 50% protein, 40% creatine, 10% plastic. But is this really something I need to be worried about?
Starting point is 00:26:52 Do I have to, like, drink only out of glass? Do I have to only cut my meat on rocks that are in the park near my house? Like, what are people really going overboard here or is it something that I have to be concerned about? I mean, you, it is something that you should try and work on, you know? The less, the better. You also want to live your life. So there are changes that you can make. You can get a wooden cutting board.
Starting point is 00:27:18 It's not that expensive. You can try and use, instead of the plastic tupperwares, try and use glass tupperwares, you know. try and don't drink from plastic bottles that often, only if you need to. The less, the better. In general, they do have a biologic effect. If you do have a good metabolism, though, especially a good circadian rhythm, good light biology, your body is very good at detoxing these things. So that would be my priority versus worrying about the mycoplastics.
Starting point is 00:27:56 This is great. I have never heard anyone say I can eliminate most of the microplastics if I just get rid of these goddamn lights all over my house. Yeah, it's pretty important. I love that. I mean, yeah. If you're in blue light all the time, it's kind of like you're swimming in plastic all the time, you know. It's that powerful, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Is it true that, so this is, you know, we can kind of pivot to sleep here, which I think is important. And a lot of people these days, in no small part, thanks to the phone and other things like, you know, people having kids, your circadian rhythm takes a bit of a beating and, you know, whether it's, you know, again, I'll refer to my own situation here. I'm sure a lot of people are in the same boat. When we had our daughter, eight, nine months ago, you find that instead of eating at five o'clock or six o'clock because of feeding times and cranky times and whatever else, you're eating late and inspecting your sleep or you're getting up in the middle of the night and it's affecting your sleep. or you're doing things that affect sort of your sleep pattern. You try and catch a nap in the middle of the day to catch up from last night and you wind up oversleeping and not being tired when the circadian rhythm wants you to sleep, let's say. Sleep is obviously a huge thing.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And one of the things that I see a lot of Bitcoiners especially doing these days is using supplements like magnesium to sleep or magnesium melatonin to sleep, which I do from time to time, or other things. Like, you know, these weed pills or any number of different sleep aids that are, I think, kind of pseudo natural, maybe naturally occurring, but not in the quantity or at the moment in which you need them to, you know, help you with getting to bed. Where do you draw the line, you think, between the importance of sleep and trying to get that sleep naturally? In my view, sleep is probably the most important thing, whether it's for training, for focus, for work, whatever. And so I think there's like a little give and take there. You might not want to do it every night.
Starting point is 00:29:55 But if you find yourself not tired at 10 or 11 o'clock when you usually go to bed, you got to get to bed. Is there a line that people should be thinking about there? Or is sleep really the, you know, ace in the deck and everything else is secondary so long as you're not, you know, I don't want to say abusing. But let's just use that word abusing some of these supplements that might help you get to sleep. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot more important to think of sleep in terms of light. light is the most important input for your sleep
Starting point is 00:30:23 okay no supplement is going to do help you more than improving your light environment and the way you do that is if you get some light during the day it actually makes you generate more melatonin at night so that's one number two is although it's difficult to do in modern life but as much as possible after sunset you want to make your room as dark as possible.
Starting point is 00:30:52 If you need to use blue lights during the day because that's how your work does it, at night only use either red light or incandescent bulbs. And try and make it as dark as possible. In the beginning, it's going to be weird
Starting point is 00:31:07 adjusting to it, but your actually your eyes will get used to it and you'll start to feel that things are slowing down a little bit after sunset so that you go into sleep more ready. The natural way our body does it
Starting point is 00:31:26 is you start generating melatonin at sunset. The moment the light starts going down is when you start generating melatonin. But because these days, when the sun goes down, we turn lights off, our body doesn't start generating melatonin. It only starts doing it when you're in bed and you've turned the lights off.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So you don't have that much melatonin going into bed. While if you were in a dark environment before, you're going to gradually build up the melatonin so that in two or three hours after sunset, you are toasted, you are ready for bed. Do you think the light, I mean, this is interesting. I didn't know we were going to go into this light thing so deeply, but it seems to me that this is important now.
Starting point is 00:32:11 What effect does the light diet of the average, I don't know, I guess a fertile age man and woman have on fertility. There's obviously like a fertility crisis now. Part of it is, you know, economic and fiat nonsense. But I think another part of it is physiological. What effect does that sort of thing have on your fertility? Is it? Okay. Yeah. So the main issue with all this artificial light stuff is it disturbs your hormone synthesis in the body.
Starting point is 00:32:42 many different pathways many different ways but like one of the most important ones is that it increases your cortisol which is a stress hormone and if your body is not generating has to generate a lot of cortisol it uses the building blocks for other hormones including testosterone
Starting point is 00:33:00 estrogen and progesterone so you know there's a there is a testosterone crisis now and I think the reason is artificial light people on audio won't be able to see me looking off the screen here okay i am with you on the testosterone crisis where i told you in our email i kind of want to talk about t rt but we don't have to i do think there's a crisis though in testosterone in men and you can see it in a number of different ways um i think most acutely for me the thing that i've noticed over the last 10 years or so
Starting point is 00:33:32 is something that people are pointing out online now that you know i was never able to articulate late until I saw it, that low testosterone men worry more about saying the thing that everyone else thinks is right and doing the thing that everyone else thinks is right and not doing the thing that is actually, you know, morally or ethically right. I see it in, you know, stupid political causes. I see it in a stupid, you know, there's things I want to say that I will not say on this air because I don't want to get demonetized. But, you know, there's crisis of testosterone. light is one contributing factor you're saying for sure what about diet um we've obviously seen a rise in plant base we've seen a rise in you know intermittent fasting we've seen a rise in carb free what is the
Starting point is 00:34:19 what is the most likely you know set of culprits here outside of the the light diet for the average man uh in terms of their lacking testosterone and if you don't mind uh doc talk to me a bit about like how you're defining a crisis in testosterone because if you go to a doctor these days you know they will often tell you you are within the reference range for free testosterone and that range changes all the time there's probably some incentives there that you know about that i don't talk me a bit about this uh i want to hear more about it yeah so uh the the main thing with diet and if you're worried about your hormonal health the main issue with modern diets is that we don't consume enough animal fats.
Starting point is 00:35:04 So you build testosterone and other hormones using cholesterol. Cholesterol is a necessary nutrient for building these hormones. So you see a lot of people that go on a like a plant-based diet and in a few months they don't get their periods if they're women, if they're men, they have issues in the bedroom, et cetera, or they start losing muscle mass. It's all because their hormones need animal fat. So this entire push for processed vegetable seed oils and stay away from animal fat, that's one of the factors that's doing this.
Starting point is 00:35:38 On the other extreme, I know there's a lot of bitconers that are into the carnivore community, and the carnivore diet is quite amazing. Is your brother still on carnivore, by the way? It's still 11 years in. He's going strong. Okay. Okay. So for a lot of people, it works very well. I have seen it for a lot of people, though, that prolonged, you know, ketosis being in low carb,
Starting point is 00:36:02 also creates stress on the body, also elevates your cortisol, which on the long run can also lower your testosterone. And the best way to kind of stop that from happening is integrating some healthy seasonal carbs in your diet. So that's the two extremes of what might affect the testosterone levels. Yeah. Go ahead. say what's a healthy seasonal carb in your opinion? So it's eating what's in season in your light environment, in your atmosphere. So if you are in a cold environment, you're not going to be consuming, you know, sugary fruits in the winter. In the fall, you might be consuming some,
Starting point is 00:36:42 you know, vegetable, root vegetables, et cetera, that grow in your environment. In the winter, you're going to be mostly in a in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, in a, a ketogenic diet. You're mostly going to be eating animal meat and fat because that's what is available at that there's no plants growing in when it's zero degrees outside and then when the summer comes you eat the local fruits that grow in your environment and the reason that that's important is the signals of how to digest these fruits how your metabolism runs comes from the same sun that hits you and hits them this is a very uh what i would call a holistic approach to diet light. It never occurred to me to eat the things that are growing only in your area. Canadians,
Starting point is 00:37:30 I guess that means we're only eating, I don't know, potatoes and stupid political causes. I don't know what the macros are on those, but I guess we'll find out. You mentioned cholesterol, which I want to talk about. Cholesterol is this thing that is a boogeyman to a lot of people. There's a difference, obviously, between like, you know, your sort of blood cholesterol levels and your arterial cholesterol levels and all these things. I don't think people realize that. There's obviously been this huge, Ahmad, like huge push to get people on low cholesterol diets, to get them on cholesterol reducing medications,
Starting point is 00:38:04 Lifetime subscription again, by the way, among other things related to this whole cholesterol industrial complex. Tell me a bit about whether or not the average person needs to be concerned about their cholesterol levels. And if they do, you know, what is the best way to actually check whether the cholesterol level you have, is a dangerous one. Yeah, so the average human being,
Starting point is 00:38:30 all human beings should not be concerned about their cholesterol levels. Studies on cholesterol, it was one study, it was called the Framingham study. They did it in the 60s and 70s. It showed that some people with elevated cholesterol had higher risk of heart disease. The cholesterol selling medication industry
Starting point is 00:38:51 jumped on this study and it became the highest selling drug in history. And then 20 years later, they followed up on these patients and that same population and saw that people with lower cholesterol actually had higher mortality.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And there have been multiple studies showing that higher cholesterol does not equate to higher risk of cardiovascular disease. There's not really a link between higher cholesterol and cardiovascular disease. A lot of people with cardiovascular
Starting point is 00:39:22 disease have no normal cholesterol, and a lot of people with high cholesterol don't have cardiovascular disease. So, yeah, go ahead, finish up, yeah. Cholesterol, you will see it there in that artery that's clogged, in the heart vessel that's clogged, or in the brain vessel that's clogged. But what cholesterol is rolled there is to go and try and fix the blood vessel, to try and heal it, because it's about to rupture from the inflammation there. So the cause of the issue is not the cholesterol. The cholesterol, the There is the firefighter there.
Starting point is 00:39:57 What's causing the fire is inflammation in the blood vessel. And so what causes inflammation? Many important things. Insulin resistance. Processed vegetable seed oils. Processed foods. Lack of seeing sunlight and seeing too much artificial light. All these things drive inflammation and cholesterol is only the is only trying to fight that off.
Starting point is 00:40:25 have you ever said this at like a conference or anything like i feel like this is a good information you would you be surprised by the number of people who want you on cholesterol meds basically as soon as you turn 45 because your cholesterol again higher than some reference range that the medical establishments determined to be worrisome or because you have a history of that in your family um you know this is to me i've never heard this before why why was only the one study jumped on and publicized while the others were not. Because it seems to me that obviously while there's incentives for money on the one side, a lot of people would be healthier and able to worry about other things that surely the medical profession would also jump on at some
Starting point is 00:41:06 point. Why only one of these studies? And are there still studies being funded to kind of show that there is no correlation, causation relationship between cholesterol and heart disease? Nobody wants to do these studies. The studies are there, but nobody wants to repeat. them because there's no money to be made it there. This is such a monumental drug in the history of medicine that if this, what I'm telling you becomes mainstream, this is billions and billions of dollars we're talking about. This is the highest selling medication in history. It's the first medication in history to be prescribed based on a blood test.
Starting point is 00:41:47 No symptoms, no previous issues, you just go to your doctor. he does have luck test and he gives you a pill. It's the most genius marketing model. So all they needed is one study and just a lot of propaganda and a lot of fiat. Do you think, I mean, this is a question that I think a lot of people are asking. I saw this on Twitter the other day and I commented on it and got a few replies. The other big one for people now is blood pressure. Here in Canada for a few years now, we've had everyone basically trying to take your blood.
Starting point is 00:42:21 pressure in the medical community, whether it's your doctor, your orthodontist, your dentist, everyone wants to take your blood pressure and tell you that you're elevated, high, whatever. They don't really consider things like, you know, I'll be honestly, last time I went to the dentist, my blood pressure was a little higher than, I guess, the reference range for some of my age. And the first thing I said to my dentist is, you know, I've been lying on my back for 45 minutes. I had a, you know, I worked out this morning for an hour. I had a couple of copies this morning, you know, is it high or is it something to be
Starting point is 00:42:51 concerned about and you know they don't really know um but they're telling you this is the range and you need to go you know follow up on this or whatever blood pressure has become a boogeyman for a lot of people it's called the silent killer i think in medical circles you see that oftentimes on tv american tv commercials advertising blood pressure meds among other things and uh i think it's got a lot of people concerned um for me you know in my family history my father had to have a stent put in years and years ago, his father, you know, God rest his soul, same thing. And so, you know, this blood pressure measurement has become pretty prevalent. I mean, you go to any family get together. There's three things you're probably going to talk about, the food, the dessert, and whether
Starting point is 00:43:32 someone has high blood pressure. Should people be concerned about this? Would you put that in the same basket as cholesterol? Yeah. So in the 70s, the normal blood pressure was 160 over 90. okay the the lower you like if overnight we say the normal blood pressure is now 140 then you have increased the number of blood pressure medications you can sell by like 200 percent okay okay so they've done that over the years until recently where it was 120 but now they're becoming a little bit more lenient because they're realizing it's absolutely insane to try and lower blood pressure to less than 120 uh having high blood pressure is an indicator that there's a lot of stress in the system, and something needs to be done about
Starting point is 00:44:18 that. But high blood pressure doesn't mean that you're deficient in medications. It means there's another issue that you need to address that's causing this high blood pressure. And what is high blood pressure in your opinion? Like, like you said, the number is 120. I've seen, you know, in my whatever, 15 minutes of research the other day, it used to be your age plus 100, right? Was your, yeah. And so that's obviously changed quite a bit, like many other measuring sticks have. The proponents of these medications and these interventions will call them to be generous.
Starting point is 00:44:54 We'll say that while the research has improved and we now know that this is more dangerous. What is the number people should be concerned about? We'll stick with the Bitcoiners. We'll say 35 to 45. What is the number where I get a measurement of this? I should go see somebody. I should go see Dr. Ramos about this measurement I got. Yeah, I mean, if you're persistently above 140, if you're in 150s, 150s, 16thes, persistently,
Starting point is 00:45:18 it's showing that there's some tension in the system somewhere. And my recommendation wouldn't be jumping on pills. My recommendation would be to try and figure out what the cause is. And so that would be my approach. I mean, my recommendation is you need to be worrying about your diet and your light and stressors in your life before your blood pressure goes up. So... try and address these issues before they cause you a problem.
Starting point is 00:45:46 This is exactly what I want to hear. And I think what a lot of people need to hear is that a pill may make you feel better in the short term, but there's just never enough discussion about the side effects and never enough discussion about how not changing the root cause of your problems will lead to further problems down the road. If you change one faulty part in a car engine, for example, other parts will give way. down the road. Just because you reset the engine light doesn't mean the engine is fixed. And so I really like that analogy. You know, what are the sort of thoughts these days? We'll wrap on this question
Starting point is 00:46:23 that I want to ask you one more to get you out of here. The other thing I see now, and Bitcoiners especially, is a lot of people opting out of alcohol. Alcohol, I think, is pretty detrimental to your system. I was out on Friday night with two friends of mine, one, a back surgeon at a local hospital who's done some great work actually outside of that hospital as well. And he was telling me that alcohol is a thing that they see all the time in his profession, people that come to come for surgeries in their 80s and 90s to fix issues with their back, for example, they're lucid if they're not drinking, and if they have drank or spent a lifetime, even moderate drinking, oftentimes surgery is not the right answer because they're just not lucid enough to go through
Starting point is 00:47:11 the recovery process. Obviously, there's been a drop off in young people drinking. In my opinion, it's probably because they just don't do anything socially anymore or because they're favoring drugs or other prescription meds even to kind of get their kicks. But that aside, there's clearly a push in a lot of ways to get people off. off of alcohol. Is it good? Is it bad? How many drinks? What should we be drinking? Obviously, I think there's a lot of these seed oils and other, you know, manufactured things in beer and and other booze. But tell me, you know, is this something that the average person needs to be
Starting point is 00:47:48 concerned with? Is one drink a week okay? Is 10 drinks a month? Like, what is the number? What is the thinking on this in your view? I find it hard to tell people, oh, you should be drinking because it's healthy for you. You know, I don't, like the benefits of red wine, it's because there's some antioxidants in it, but there are a million other ways you can get antioxidants, you know. If it's good for your soul life, if you enjoy having a glass of wine with your parents once a week, if you like getting a beer with your buddies once in a while, then that's fine. That is also important for human beings. We are social animals. So that is the good things about it. The bad things about alcohol, in my opinion, is that
Starting point is 00:48:29 it's very difficult for people to have a healthy relationship with it. It's kind of like you either have a hate relationship with it or you don't do it that much. So that's what I don't like about it. And I feel part of
Starting point is 00:48:45 the problem with it is not as much physical as it is psychological where you kind of like your entire existence becomes that I just can't wait for that crutch that's going to get me out of my current misery. And so your entire lifestyle starts becoming dependent on I can't wait till Friday night to go to the pub, etc. And that is not good for your mental health, I think. I think that's true.
Starting point is 00:49:13 I think you're right about that. Do you ever think about, you know, sometimes I see these studies. And actually, this is not just about, you know, wine and better longevity and some of these other things you see from time to time on the web. And honestly, in academic terms, as well. The thing I don't think people have a good hold on, honestly, is the difference between correlation and causation. You know, for example, this having a glass of wine once a week will extend your life by an average of four years or something like that. You know, it's not the wine that's extending your life. What it is is your ability to restrict yourself to one drink a week and probably have friends in your life that also restrict themselves to one drink
Starting point is 00:49:56 a week. It says something about your lifestyle and your discipline and all these things. Do you have a couple of examples of other sort of correlation causation, you know, relationships that have become popular, but probably are not, you know, they're sort of selling a false bill of goods? Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, there's a lot of them. And the, like one of the most famous one is the, they say that meat causes colon cancer. And this is based and also an epidemiological like correlation little study where they compare, you know,
Starting point is 00:50:30 vegans to people that have the standard American diet. And the standard American diet, you know, how it differs from the vegan is because they have meat. You know, the problem is not the hamburger, the fries and the Coke they're drinking. It's the burger patty.
Starting point is 00:50:47 And, you know, people on the standard American diet have higher rates of colon cancer than people that are vegan because vegans are also healthy and other ways. And they use that as a push against red meat. So that's a very common one. There's also other studies on red meat in general with heart disease, which also falsify, you know, correlation with causation. Yeah, I happen to agree. That American diet one is good. You know, they talk about the burger, but they don't talk about the fries and Coke. Doc, you've been a great
Starting point is 00:51:21 first time guest. We're definitely going to have you back on, but I have to go into the archives here and ask a question that I've not asked in a long time. When we were a young show, years and years ago, your brother came on. He's one of our first guests. I don't remember how we got him, but what I used to do is ask the guest if they thought they could beat the person I wanted to get on the show next in a foot race, 40-yard foot race. I haven't asked this question in years. But since you and your brother have both been on, if it's prime safedine versus prime Ahmad in a parking lot 40 yards. Do you think
Starting point is 00:51:55 you would win a foot race against your brother or do you think he would take you? He's taller than I am. I am pretty short. So I think that gives him a pretty good advantage. 40 yards isn't that long. Doc, if you got torque off the starting line, he's going to take a while
Starting point is 00:52:11 to get to top speed. That 40 yards is going to go pretty quick, man. I guess we're going to have to try it, me and him and see. We'll let you know. We'll record it. Sure. Sure. Sure. Dr. Ramada Amuse, tell people where they can find out more about you, your website, your Twitter feed. The floor is all yours, my friend. Thanks, Joey. I'm at Ammous MD. I'm most active on Twitter. You can also find me on amosmd.com. Shoot me an email. Send me a message. Happy to chat.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Both are in the show notes. Thank you guys for watching and listening. Thank you, Doc, for coming on. We'll see you next time. Thank you. Great job.

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