The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - Canadians Face a QUARTER TRILLION Debt from Liberal Budget - WHY Bitcoin is Your Best Bet | CBP 212 Pt 2

Episode Date: April 23, 2025

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Yeah, you want to see something wild? So I made this video. Oh, God. I made this video the other day on the football channel. This is what a ball looks like when you get it. This like super abrasive orange color. Okay. And basically you can pay somebody to break this in for you if you don't want to break

it in yourself. It's a bit of a pain to break these in honestly. Like if you're not in the league or something, like what are you going to do? You're going to throw it in your backyard. Even in a league, it takes a long time to break it in. So there's a demand for this like break-in, mudding, softening, making the ball sticky, all this stuff. And I've been trying to come up with my own process so I don't have to buy like fancy mud from the States, which is a thing. Get fancy conditioners from the States, which is a thing. Pay somebody to do a ball,

which is also a thing. This is what I came up with. This is my best product yet. This ball has never been thrown outside. It's never been used in a game and it is so soft and so sticky. Can you hear that? Yeah. Are you putting a sticker on that?

No, it's just, it's like so well done. They don't like stick. It's doing it. Putting it on. It is nuts. How good this turned out. And I've done this a few times now. That's the original color there. Obviously I am so hyped on this. I bought this ball for 200 bucks on Amazon and I wanted to I told I said on the other channel, I'll sell it at cost just because I want to get some balls in people's hands that maybe can't afford the service or don't want to pay somebody or whatever. How long does it take you to do it?

Actual working time, an hour maybe, waiting time, a lot more. You have to leave. Tell me the process. A couple times. You put it on, do you cure it somehow? You brush first with this, you take one of these nylon brushes, brush it, okay? You get it to a certain color, certain texture. You just know, you know when it's not improving anymore or darkening.

I put leather honey on it, let it sit overnight. Next day, brush it again, mix, I take some mud from my backyard, get rid of all the rocks that I can find, squish it down as tight as I can, takes like maybe 10 minutes. Put it in a coffee filter, put some water in there there drain the coffee out so the dirt's all wet put the dirt in a cup add some leather milk conditioner just like a teaspoon mix it up slather it on the ball and then after that you wait a day like let it sit overnight come back the next day brush it all into the ball then put the leather

honey on again let it sit for a couple hours brush it all into the ball, then put the leather honey on again, let it sit for a couple hours, brush it and this is what you end up with. We have enough people that are incarcerated that probably have enough free time and mud may be plentiful in some of the yards in which they... Oh my God. Right? Like why can't we do this? Jail birds are going to be doing this.

You're going to be doing this. Why not? You're on my corner? Oh my God. You always hear the story of them stamping plates and shit like that, right? I don't know if that's just a fairy tale or not. I'm going to put a link to the video that I did with that ball in the chat. It's very good. BTC Priestess said on Twitter earlier that it's like, the video is erotic. It's not erotic. I have a good radio voice and I'm not even in the video. It's just me talking over video that I took of the process. It's fun. Anyway, let's talk about

some notable North, notable whatever. I'm into it. Let's find out. Let's do something else before we go North, right? Coachella, right? Oh, Coachella. God. Right. Did you hear about this story? Of course. How could I not? BNPL Central over there. I don't know. Like how the tickets are about 700 US. I think. Well, I have here for the base level. The base level one day was 350 bucks. American American. Yeah. I'm talking USD here and the three dayday pass on stub hub was

547 as low as that much So that's we're talking for a three-day pass on stub hub versus and also the one day past the base level tickets so well apparently 60% this is according to billboard 60% of attendees finance their tickets to attend a festival like how how hard up are you to fucking... You know what the worst part is? You know what you can't finance? All the MDMA you buy, the tickets to the shows, the beers you buy in the festival field. Like it's an expensive... Going to a festival costs a lot of money. Okay. It's not cheap. And you go there and it's not a place where you're counting your dimes and nickels. You're spending money that you want to spend to have a good time.

That's all there is to it. So these guys are financing like this is end of fiat. Oh, right. Big time. Big time. You finance a ticket. You got like chances are you fly in, right? So you got hotels to pay for some sort of debt being taken on by these guys.

This is the stuff. What do you get out of of this and I'm not trying to shit on it You must be get out of it You get Bernie Sanders showed up on stage and gave a fucking rant about Donald Trump and Elon Musk talk about ruining No, no, I can mushroom trip or like an acid maybe old Len talking about this shit. It's not an experience anymore because it's fucking political. It's nonsense But there's nothing you could get out of that to, it's not like you're getting something tangible in your hand that you could, you know, I used it up.

Now I could sell it and try to recoup the cost from it like an old car, for instance. Yeah. It's just, it's just a service. You go and you burn and that's it's it. And then you leave with a memory. Great if you could afford it. But for those, I'm not sure how truthful this

is, 60% of people that financed it. And also I'm not sure if you're financing it just for the temporary, maybe they have funds and they're just, they're getting 0% financing on this, right? Like maybe it makes financial sense to do this. Maybe they're buying like a bunch of tickets together. I've done that in the past. I don't know. I got a few friends who are going, I'll buy them all, but I've always just used my credit card. Like I don't, I don't know. It's just, it's just a scary thing. I've done, I've done BNPL just to try it out. But I think, what did I see the other day? Not the other day, the other month that like BNPL is now having problems collecting from people for the first time. And if you have a debt with one of these

buy now, pay later companies, if you're like with, I don't know what is the name of them, Klarna is one, I don't know the other ones, but the rate is like 32%. So it's higher than a department store credit card, which I think capped out around 28, 29 in the 90s. I don't know what it is now. Maybe it's maybe it's 32 as well, but it's a big number, you know, like you're not going to have fun with $5,000 with the buy now pay later debt at 32%. That's going to cost you a bunch of money.

There is no answer to. You could have just mudded some footballs to make ends meet, but instead you'd be fighting against all this competition and right. Like you don't want them to be doing this. You want them to be doing something else. That's not going to impact your ability to mud balls. That's true. Let's let you be the only guy throwing mud balls. That's true. I gotta be the only guy throwing mud on balls on the internet. So I want to talk about Lancaster, California. Let's still stay in a California thing, by the way. And this is a city or town, 166,000 residents live there

as of 2023. And their mayor, the Lancaster mayor, Rex Paris, double R in Paris, by the way, he says the homeless issue has been really problematic over there. And one way to deal with it, he says they should be giving them all the fentanyl they want. What are they doing now? What are they doing? Maybe it's not enough to give them in order for the end result to have been achieved, right? Man, to say that this is one way to deal with the

homeless because nobody's going to open up the cupboards and say it's going to be unlimited access to it. And this is going to be a good ending for the user. It's basically going to end up where unfortunately they'll most likely end in a box Yeah, then on top of that like this guy is very interesting did some research on mr Rex Paris this guy's been the mayor six consecutive terms So it's quite a while back in 2011 2012 they changed the mayoral terms from two years to four years as an example of They think some people are claiming it manipulating the Democratic process. You know, that's what somebody's

It's beautiful stuff. This guy is just wonderful. I love seeing a story like this another like late stage fiat moment here? Here you go. All the drugs you want. Oh, by the way, we'll also pay for your Coachella ticket. Just fucking go to attend there. What a fucking disaster. How do you recommend this as a way to deal with homelessness? It's insane. It's insane. Kill them basically is what he's saying, right?

Let them grow out in a blazing glory, bent over on fentanyl. Listen, I know it's funny to talk about these stories sometimes, at least, you know, maybe not funny, but it's like, you know, shocking enough that you have a laugh about it. California is in big shit. Like that whole state is in trouble in a major way. Newsome is trying to run for president.

I cannot wait to see what his campaign looks like. Kamala Harris still operating in that region of the world, Pelosi, Schumer, Schumer may be on the East Coast, but the number of people who are winning elections there for 40 and 50 years in a row and the results that they've produced, it's almost unthinkable. I recommend people follow and listen to Adam Carolla if you want to hear what it's like to be a citizen in these regions, talking about the recovery from the fires. And he's obviously been on TV with Newsome a few times, you know, produce some very uncomfortable

results for Gavin. And I think that he's a guy who has the resources to just ignore this stuff and is choosing instead to take it head on. I've messaged him and tried to get him on the show, emailed his producer and didn't hear back, but I still would love to have Ace Man on this program because I think he's like us looking at this and going, how the fuck are these guys saying this stuff out loud and how the fuck did we stop them? And I know this story is just, it's disgusting.

We don't want to help these people. We want to get them as addicted to drugs as we can. And then when they become too big of a problem for the economy, we should just let them go out in a, you know, blaze of glory. It's just inhumane, completely disgusting. You watched the debate last week. We had a couple of them. I did. I watched both French language and English language. I do feel pretty good about my French, I have to say, even though I haven't been speaking it regularly for a few months now. I can, I can more or less understand the debate, which is probably an indictment of the candidates French

more than a pat on the back, you know, as far as my own, but I digress. Did you watch them? The second, the English one, I watched briefly the French one and what I did watch of it, I have to admit that I was impressed with Carney's ability to communicate in French. Yeah, I was expecting it to be far worse, but he was able to communicate to basically formulate some sentences and converse debate like on the fly. And that requires a level of competence of the language. And he has that we can say what you want about his accent. But he seemed to have done really well with picking up the language, the French language. And so the English one was interesting.

Like the both debates, they did not allow the Green Party to attend. So why? What's the rationale for that? I'm curious. They have two leaders and the debate commission is basically saying you can't do it. They put up a fight and then the debate commission said, look, our job is to put up candidates who have a real chance at either forming government or contributing to government policy and you guys are neither. And they also pointed to that the Green Party doesn't run candidates in the minimum 80% of writings.

So no, so that's another problem with with their party. Plus Elizabeth May is just constantly screaming at the microphone. She has no volume control. It's it's like just like screaming Harpy all the time. It's really intolerable. It's you can't even listen to her talk. I'm surprised they still have to like

what's the rationale? This is new. It's new. It's new. It's new. This two leader thing is new. Liz was the only leader for a long time and this other guy is like my age. It looks like maybe a little older, a little younger, but he's like, like, what is the point of having this guy, you know, I know that.

So the Boomer's point, the Bloc Québécois, I think there's another, there's criteria that are, so Boomer's asking, why why does the block get to have a candidate? Or the NDP. The NDP contributes to the government, right? They can make that case. Well, the block certainly will, depending on where they land. That's what I think too. And I think too, there's some other criteria that are a little more foggy and up for interpretation. And at the end of the day, my honest feeling is that the debate commission just didn't want to deal with the Green Party and their nonsense.

So they said, you can't participate. And there's really no pushback with the Green Party. It just doesn't have the media presence or the media competency to make a statement about that. So there is what it is. And Elizabeth May might lose her seat as well as Paulie points out in the chat. Yeah, she is down right now in British Columbia. They've peaked in the last

couple elections and this is it. Now they're going to, just like the NDP, they peaked two elections ago. Yeah, more than two elections, four or five elections ago. And they're going to get absolutely destroyed this time around. Jagmeet Singh did not have a good presence at either of the two debates. No. And it just it seems very strange that like he's still going out there saying that he's going to become prime minister. If he could, maybe this is I don't know if this is the best strategy. You remember what happened with a similar situation here in Ontario years ago, right? With Kathleen Wynne. You can probably speak to that more than me, but she I think is the only candidate ever to come out like a week before an

election and say we're not going gonna win. You got to vote for somebody else. Yeah, this is the last time she ran. He should say, look, we're not gonna win. All signs are pointing we're gonna be a small party at best. All right, let's try to get to the minimum 12 seats to be considered a party where we get funding and shit like that But he's still talking about becoming the prime minister like that that talk Buddy just let it go because you have at this particular moment. Just looking at everything in front of me It's got no chance zero chance and it looks like he's not gonna win his seat either

they're gonna be down to like seven eight nine ten seats and And it looks like he's not going to win his seat either. They're going to be down to like seven, eight, nine, 10 seats and they're fucked. This is the second time in like 30 years that they're not going to have official party status. And this time around, I'm not sure if they're going to be able to recover given where the liberals have moved in their political spectrum. They may be able to truly swallow up the NDP. Yeah, they need to to win, right? They need the NDP to stay weak to win this election.

Where do you, I mean, I don't know if you want to talk about the liberal platform. We don't have to, but. What about let's talk about the conservative platform. I want to talk. Yeah. Okay. We write on the, we write on the lives all the time. The conservative platform is out. It's a, it's not costed, but it's, you know, GDP, GST reduction. I have it up here on the screen actually, hold on. Right, it's GST reduction among other things. But there's a few points that have started to be leaked out.

Here, let's see, CPC platform is out. Balance budget by 26, elimination of the GST, removal of income tax for the bottom 40% of earners, reduction of corporate income tax to 5%. I would like that, we have a corporate. Go to our website. Increase defense spending to two and a half GDP points, five LNG ports, East West oil and LNG pipelines. Go to their website, conservative.ca and tell me this website says very little. Because what I see is this even their platform or is this something

that I just got logged on? I don't know. I, it's hard for me to tell, but this is par for the course. It's not the first time we had parties that don't release a platform. But now go to their website and just look at how bare bones it is. They got a section on merch. You go buy fucking merch. Anything good. I didn't even bother looking i'll take a look right now let's see i don't think pierre is gonna win i i want to just bring it home.c i want to just note i want to note that i said on this show over and over and over again that pierre poliev is not a good politician and he's not going to beat mark carney and i think that that's going to wind up being correct i think he's good.

I think they're gonna lose and I compare this. I want to just make sure who's in a Wendy who's in a form government who's gonna have the liberal. Liberals really? Are they gonna have majority and majority? It's gonna be majority. Wow. Yeah it's gonna be liberal majority. That's where I'm planting my flag and you know I know Paulie saying I said Kam, Kamala was going to win. Yeah, I was wrong about that. But I think this one is a done deal. I just want to say that the reason I think this is because if I look at the way I tweeted

out a clip today of Carney handling someone screaming about the WEF at a press conference or like a job, he did a he did. He did a good job. He did a great job pairing that question. I don't like Mark Carney. I don't think he's a good politician either and I don't think he's going to be a good prime minister. But I laughed at his response. So did I. And yeah, he's like got the earpiece and he's like, I'm waiting for the instructions.

I was laughing at that. I thought I did think that was pretty fucking funny. Like good for you, Mark. That was a good good gag. And and like I look at that moment and I look at like how big a difference there is in the way that he speaks and is able to control a crowd compared to when he started the campaign. And then I look at Polyev over the last three years and how much has he improved as a politician and I

would argue that he just hasn't improved at all. He's regressed and I you know thinking about it since I sent the tweet out and talked to a few you guys on Twitter I would compare this to like playing Madden okay. Sometimes my brother and I play franchise mode together online you know we're obviously in our 30s now I don't see him as often as I'd like and we used to play together as kids. One of the things we still do is rip up, you know, rip a franchise together. And when I look at, you know, the way that he plays, you know, sorry, Matt, if you're listening, when I look at the way that he plays against the CPU teams, he drafts a lot of speed guys and just

throws bombs over and over again. He beats the piss out of the CPU, even on the most difficult setting. But then when he runs into my team, a user controlled team, I know how to handle it and he's got too many bad habits. He's had things too easy for too long. He doesn't know how to change a strategy, doesn't know how to run between the tackles, doesn't know how to control the clock, doesn't know how to stop the run. And I look at Paulie Ebb and that's what I see, honestly. I see a guy who's been playing on easy mode for three years

against the least popular candidate in Canadian history, I think, in Trudeau and the least popular party. And he hasn't, you know, for all the things he has done well, like he did have a good answer to the security clearance question at the debate the other night. I thought that was well played by him. He hasn't been able to parry or reframe any of the big questions of this election.

And the big questions didn't just show up. They came in November when Trump was elected. How are we going to deal with the United States? Trump is the elephant in the room. Cost of living is too high. Housing is a crisis, blah, blah, blah. And he hasn't been able to reframe those questions. Now, I will freely admit, and I think there's a valuable point to be made here. I don't know what the weighting on this should be, but Carney has led a campaign that's really been given a lot of benefit of the doubt. He doesn't get a lot of tough questions. He's able to say things that most politicians would not get away with with the press. That Rosie Barton thing would have been news for a week.

If you're probably have told Rosie Barton to look inward and stop having ill will toward them, like that would have been a week long media event. You know, telling rebel news reporters that there's odd, you're asking an odd question, but I'll answer it anyway. I thought, you know, should have been maybe pasted. He should have been pasted for that a little more. But at the end of the day, I look at the two candidates and I, you know, if I'm really serious about who I think is going to win and also if I'm really serious about who I think is a better politician, not who will make a better prime minister, but who I think is a better politician.

It's Carney and Poliev. This is an all time bag fumble if he loses. Um, and it's a bag fumble for the country too. I mean, I can't imagine anyone who's given this any thought voting for Carney but I mean as we see the you know double birds old man in the parking lot and these other people like chasing people away at these events and I'm not convinced that liberal voters are at all concerned about the actual state of affairs. They are much more concerned about the vibe, the Trump thing, and can we

protect our equity portfolio? It's funny too. If equities keep having bad days here and the market crashes another, let's say it loses another three, four, five percent, what is that going to do to the voting patterns of everyone over 50? Is it going to make them more likely to vote conservative or less likely to vote conservative in the coming election? I'm not saying it's correct, but it seems to me that this is the way these guys are leaning. And when I go to the polls on Monday, I'm going to see, if I don't see anyone under 40 at four o'clock or five o'clock or whenever I go. And if I see in front of my house here, you know, because I live on a sort of walking path to the voting area, the voting site, if I see a lot more older people

than I see younger people, you know, I'm gonna be worried about that. I can't, and I've said this before, I can't stress this enough. Boomers have been insulated from everything that their voting patterns have inflicted on the rest of us for the last 15, 20 years. They bought houses as that asset was monetizing

when we went off the gold standard. They bought equities and got into defined benefit pensions as those became popular and ETF investing started and price to earnings ratios got from 5 to 10 and for PE now it's like 25 or 35 depending on where you look. Everything is overpriced and they own it all. And I don't blame them for doing that, but this election if they vote for Carney because of the currency weakness, I've said this before, they will feel pain that they have not felt in their entire lives. And it'll be bittersweet because I don't want boomers to feel pain, but I think they need

to because they have to remember this lesson. And right now they've yet to be taught it. And I think that Mark Carney and the liberal government, if they win a majority, will be a very competent teacher of the reasons not to go through this again. Quite a soliloquy. Who's gonna win Quebec? Blanc. Really? Yeah, I think I would love Blanchet to be the president or the president, the prime

minister. I think he's the best politician of the bunch. He's got great stage presence, very competent, great one-liners, good with the media. Like guys, he's a hero. How many seats are in Quebec? I'm getting pasted in the comments here by people. If you agree or disagree, I'll just tell you that it doesn't matter. Like I said, I don't want this to be the outcome, but if I have to put my chips somewhere like this is this is where I'm going to put them. So the number of seats in Quebec, it's 70 or 90. If I go with the numbers, whatever the fuck it is. If you think that the block is going to get the majority over there.

Yeah. Where do the liberals win enough to get everywhere else, everywhere else to do that? The conservatives in 2011 were able to form a majority government that won in Quebec. Yeah. And they did this by doing very well in Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, which doesn't equate to a heck of a lot of seats, but they need it. They did well out East. They did well in Ontario specifically in the nine oh five and even a little bit in four one six. They got some writings that flipped. They beat Ignatius in a topical lake They did well in Ontario specifically in the 905 and even a little bit in 416. They got some writings that flipped.

They beat Ignatiev in the Tobacco Lakeshore, for instance. They got some 416 writings. So to have done that, they had to win every other province and done so handily. So the liberals to win a majority government without winning Quebec has to follow the same path. Are they going to sweep the Atlantic province? Okay, we'll say me for sure. Yeah, for sure.

For sure. Okay, we'll give you that. I suspect probably not. But we'll give you this. They have to do fucking great in Ontario, including the 416 and 905. If they fumble there, if they don't get almost an entire sweep, like a sweep or close to a sweep, they could, they could not form a majority government. How many, how many voters did the liberal government add through immigration to four one six nine oh five and British Columbia?

How many? That's a good question. Two million, two million in the last four years? No, no, no, no. How many? Because to have done this, you would have, you're talking through liberal policy and ideas. Yeah. They came into power in 2015. If somebody hypothetically applied to become an immigrant to Canada under a new liberal strategy, liberal idea, it probably would have taken a few years for their application to have been processed and come to Canada. So they probably arrived in say 2020, 2021, 2021. Nobody came in 2020. Then at that point, you have to wait some time before you could apply for citizenship. So you're talking, you're only getting the very first tranche of people that came and applied in the 2015, 26, 2017. They added 2 million people in Toronto, but don't think they were all Canadian citizens.

They may eventually become Canadian citizens. Since 2015? Correct. If they, it's from 2015, the majority came in in the last five years. They are not Canadian citizens. They have, they may influence, they could go out knock on doors, hammer in signs, shit like that, but they have no way legally to go and cast a ballot and say, I'm voting for this particular person. They don't have the ability. It's not, they don't have it. Okay. So we, so we, we, we disagree maybe on the volume of new liberal voters. I don't know exactly what it is, but you make a good point. The other concern I would have if I was banking on 905 or 416

is that conservative voters have left those areas and moved to areas where there's insulation from these policies. And so these areas still vote orange or red. I live in one of them here in Dundas. You know, we left Hamilton Mountain and moved here. I don't think this is going to be a conservative stronghold by any stretch. And I'm no longer voting in an area that probably had a chance to go conservative, right? Because I didn't want to stay there. And so that's another problem. You've had basically five years, I think of that type of exodus

or four years of that type of exodus since 21. I don't know in what numbers exactly. You know, you could look at maybe the real estate market and find out, you know, how many listings, how many vacancies, stuff like that. But I really think that in the chat, these guys are saying it too, that the Trump thing is just so overwhelming

and people are hypnotized by this. It's an eight year project at this point, you know, from 2016 to now to paint this guy as the biggest villain the world has ever seen. And it's worked on the boomers and the boomers are bored. They're excited to vote. It's something that they take pride in. They feel a sense of camaraderie and community doing this. Clearly.

I mean, you look at the videos online, there's no doubt they feel this way. I don't know. I'm just looking, I try to compute this in my head. The only way that the liberals can do, and I'm on the fence. I'm not sure if it's going to be conservative majority or conservative minority. Do you think they're going to win though? I think they're going to have the most seats. That's what I'm going to say. I'm not sure if it's just going to be a coalition. Are they going to win the popular vote? Because the liberals gonna have the most seats. That's what I'm gonna say. I'm not sure if it's just gonna be a coalition. Are they gonna win the popular vote? Because the liberals can win the most. They can win a majority without getting the popular vote, right? That's another fun quirk

of our system. It's not just that they, it's not just the whole government. They'll have a majority with less votes than the other parties. No, they'll get the popular vote. Whoever gets the most seats, I mean, historically. What's the turnout going to be in this election? You think 65, 70? Almost 70 percent. I'll say almost. Not quite there, but it's going to be higher than previous years. We had 61, I think. One of the previous years was Harper. 33 and 21. That was the turn. No, no. I don't think it was that low in 20. Unless it was a COVID thing that really it's usually in the 60s check. Maybe the high we don't only for by elections. Do you get a debt fucking low?

And even then maybe that's too high. It gets even lower for a 62%. Yeah. 62%. There you go. And that was a COVID year. Imagine that people were kind of scared and stuff like that. 17 million people voted in that election.

Yeah. Yeah. So to go back, Paulev is he did he like stumble or did he just stand his ground? He stood his ground. He said everybody was kind of caught up to him, right? Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Okay, that's that's an interest. I still think he's gonna this party's gonna become like form the most or have the most seats in the House of Commons and let's see if that's gonna be enough to I hope your government or not I mean, I don't you know what whatever happens happens

Like I say I could worry about things I could think about things will happen regardless of these things The only thing I could do is I could go out and vote for Bitcoin and that's what I'm gonna be voting for Yeah, just right in I vote for Bitcoin and put big be in there So this is gonna be fucking fun to watch next week. We're going to have a good show, but I still I'm going back to like Quebec. Who's going to win that? And I don't think the block is going to win that some federalist party has to win Quebec or has to at least get a chunk of seats from there. Which federalist party? 2011, the NDP were that federalist party. Historically, it's been the liberals. Now, Quebec doesn't tend to vote for an anglophone

liberal leader. So, just looking at this, they're not going to vote NDP. They never vote conservative. They've only done so once in the past 40 something years, whether it was when Maluni got into power. They never vote for an Anglophone liberal leader. You have to go back 50, 60 years to find this. I just can't figure out who the fuck Quebecers are going to vote for. And that's going to, that's the deciding factor in this election. It's whoever gets those votes, if the bloc wins the most votes then the conservators

are gonna be the winners here I think. If the liberals get a bunch of votes in Quebec then the liberals have a good chance of forming government. That's the only way I look at this. a forming government. That's the only way I look at it. They have, there has to be one federalist party that's represented in totality there. Yeah. Always is. Who is it going to be? It needs to be Paul Yev, obviously. Yeah. No, they never vote for conservative. Yeah, but he's a Frank. He's a closer francophone. Like, I don't know. I just don't and considering their, the idea of them with pipelines and shit like that.

Yeah, I don't know. That's true too. That's true too. We have to have an honest discussion in this country. Like I don't often speak in like speak, you know, so I don't know what the word would be hyperbolically maybe about what's possible and what we should do. But the pipelines thing really is like annoying to me because I keep on hearing we have to engage with like six nations, tribes and the Quebec like, yeah, we don't feel any acknowledgement. Yeah. Yeah. We shouldn't be engaging with native bands anymore on issues of national

security and prosperity pipelines. Like if it's through a reserve is through reserve. I don't care what you think anymore. Um, if, if, you know, we need to go through Quebec to get oil and gas or LNG to the East coast, then we do it. It's not up to the francophones to tell us what we can and can't do anymore. Um, it's, it's hard to, it's hard discussion. And like, I know the, maybe the bull guys will get pissed that I said that It's not up to the francophones to tell us what we can and can't do anymore. It's hard discussion and like I know that maybe the bull guys will get pissed that I said that because those guys are, they're truly great Quebecers but I just, I don't know what to do.

Like either you break the country up and start being serious about what it means to be a unified nation or you do what we're doing now which is Carney talking about we have to unify and then not actually doing anything and Pierre talking about we have to do it without being unified and then not actually do anything either like nothing changes right it's all this it's consultation without momentum and you're just costing yourself at every turn any bit of unity that you're able to build, you give it back because some special interest is not, you know, you don't fluff them enough, right?

You don't massage until climax and the guy gets pissed and you don't get your fucking pipeline. We got to be past that. We have to be past that. We cannot keep doing this all the time. You can say what you want about the United States and the federalist model. But when it comes to pretty important stuff, like military spending, their politicians are aligned.

When it comes to stuff like language, their politicians are aligned. When it comes to stuff like energy, their politicians, although they may not say it, they vote in alignment. And that's why that country is so successful, because they consult only on television. When they need to get stuff done, they just fucking do it. And we don't.

We're the opposite. And we have to stop being that way. Does anything change? No. By Bitcoin. This is it. You got to have a stack, man. I can't stress this enough.

You got Kearney talking about him in VonderLane behind closed doors, like, you know, slamming marks and talking CBDC and Pierre seems unwilling to make a case for any of this stuff. Pierre, by the way, on Easter celebrating in a Sikh headdress somewhere in the 416 if I had to guess. Like you you gotta have Bitcoin because whatever you think is gonna happen depending on who wins I know I talked about runway before I still believe that but like you're just delaying the inevitable here and you got to be ready to GTFO capital B balance like someone said in the chat earlier so keep keep your options open ever in a people party

will ever become a viable they can't they can't why not because they they look reform party and alliance they spun out an idea right like now we have them as now the alternative to the liberal party it's not feasible why not i i just i i don't make the rules man i'm just telling you it's not feasible. What is the path for them? They're something that Bernier doesn't speak English that well. He's not particularly likable. I know someone in the chat said, Bernie has been doing the rounds and sounds good. He doesn't sound good. He never sounds good. He doesn't have a platform outside of I'm not them and send immigration to zero. Good idea, by the way, but it's not enough to be recognized at any, at any, you know, important level nationally. So maybe they're the federalist party.

That's why I could you imagine the meltdown on CBC's fucking 10 man panel, 10 person panel, if they could get one seat, that's going to make a lot of people. It's going to trigger a lot of folks out there. Yeah, the only thing I think that they could potentially win, I guess, it's Maxime Bernice. And I don't know where he's running, but I'm not sure what chance he has. I mean, we'll talk to Francis about this, too. He's going to he's got his finger on the pulse of that region, probably more than most, so I'd be interested to hear what he has to say.

Yeah, of course. I'd be interested to hear what he has to say about it. But yeah, shoes. Yeah, I've seen them. He has shoes. He does. Not just the sandalware. So he has shoes. Yeah. I've seen him. He has shoes. He does. He does. He's not just a sandal wearer. So he's living.

He can walk the streets in Quebec this time of year. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. So maybe we'll finish with this. What? I mean, we're going to talk about this Monday night, but I want to just tell people what we're, like what I'm expecting to cover.

I want to talk to these guys about what the campaigns got right, what the campaigns got wrong, what the candidates could have done better individually. And I want to talk about the blind spots for Canada. What do Canadians think they know and what do they not know that they don't know that yielded even this much uncertainty on this show and polls are obviously looking very bleak. And I want to hear what those guys think. Tom and Francis and Mark.

You know the reality, Joey? As long as there's people voting and it's going to sound like whatever the fuck. People are exercising their right. If they want to vote for this person or that person, all the more power. Totally. I totally agree. They're doing what they think is best for them. Yeah, it's democracy. That's democracy. Right. And everybody has an opportunity to do whatever they want. They could vote with their wallet,

their feet. There's lots of different ways you could vote, right? They'll failed failed failed organizational principle, by the way, democracy. But that's a story for another time. Kent Brockman, did he say that democracy just doesn't work? Doesn't work. They never do what I want. And Brockman. Let's get the fuck out of here. That's it for tonight. Tuan tomorrow with Len.

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