The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - CARNEY AND POILEVRE SQUARE OFF - ITS ELECTION SEASON IN CANADA | The CBP 208 Pt.2 (Bitcoin Podcast)

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

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Okay. So I don't call people a cock if they're known fucking, you don't have Bitcoin or this or that. It's not, it's, it's the mentality. We could talk about cock mentality today. In fact, it's not owning Bitcoin. It's not understanding what Bitcoin is, not being a no coin or pre coin or whatever the fuck it is. It's, it's something more than that. And this all stem from, I called somebody out in a public forum and I was able to provide proof that he was asking for shit from me and I provided it and then he fucking immediately cuts me off, blocks me and deletes my posts because he had authority in that chat room. That's cock material, right?

Like when you're fucking, when you've been given proof and that's where all that comes from. You don't be a cock. Don't act like a cock. If somebody calls you out, fucking stand your ground and fucking fight. If you lose, you lose. That's fine. Don't fucking just wave a magic sword and kick somebody off a fucking room. That's bullshit. That's kind of material. Agreed. Yeah. So, Carney, election, Pierre, did you watch the speeches? Did you watch? What do you think? Where you want to start? Yeah, well, let's talk Canada.

As of yesterday noon, I wanted to watch them go to the governor general because I didn't know it was at some event with my family. We're in an election. We have the shortest period of time for an election. They opted for the 37 day, whatever the fuck it is. It's tight. It's even tighter than that. It's on the 28th of April.

So 20. It's the shortest you could have it. Yeah. It's by design. Then funny enough, 2015 was the longest one. And that was to the detriment of Harper, the longer the election for him, that one didn't help him out. They're going for shorter trying to strike this while the iron is hot. Chandra's riding. He's taking over Chandra's ride.

That's unbelievable. That's there's a lot to that story that I don't know. A lot of speculation. It's not speculation. Like we were talking about this with Mark on the weekend. We talked about it, I think like three weeks ago, four weeks ago, whenever Chandra got booted from the leadership race that we found this post that everyone is now caught onto about his son working for Brookfield overseas with a cushy, I don't think quite C-suite, but close position, certainly something you can hang your hat on and live a good life on the back of. And it's interesting that Chandra gave up his seat, right? So I said, gave up.

You didn't give up his seat. Yeah, I said gave up. He didn't really give it up, did he? That's not really what happened. Yeah. There's a lot here. I don't know. How much of an influence did the CEO of Brookfield have with the hiring and keeping on of Chandra's son? I don't know. Probably nil, probably a lot. There's a lot I just don't know. Speculation is through the roof. RG It's just not good. It's not good, right? This goes back to... So let's talk a bit about Carney one more time and the connections and just the sort of like willful, the willful ignorance

or like the ignorance that the liberal party hopes that you have maybe about this whole thing. Shandra Arya is the first bit. Again, we're speculating a little bit because we don't know the exact details. As Mark points out in the chat, we're talking like 2016 is a start date for this young fella who's the CFO of Brookfield India, according to Mark. We don't know for sure, but we're guessing here. You could have picked anybody to run the party and instead you picked the guy who has this connection to the candidate

who you need to remove because he garnered such a huge groundswell of support basically all of a sudden on a Sunday afternoon and was booted over it, right? So like you could have picked anyone else, you picked Carney, you had to deal with that. I was doing a little digging the other day and I'll share the research with you guys because I care about you. We all love each other here at the CVP and I want to make sure everyone's well informed. Mark Carney appointed a guy named Mark Wiseman to his counsel cabinet, not cabinet, but like his advisors basically. This sort of Jerry Butts adjacent role. I'm guiding policy, I'm guiding campaign strategy, I'm guiding the party.

Mark Wiseman is a guy who is the co-founder of the Century Initiative, Len. We've talked about the Century Initiative on the show a few times. The Century Initiative is this lobby group, I would call it, consulting group, lobby group, something like that, that's worked with the liberal government over the years and worked with, you know,

corporations, NGOs, I'm sure, they want to push the population of Canada to a hundred million people by the year 2100. So we're at about 40 now, if you believe the numbers, they want to more than double it over the next 60 years. By the way, no mention of integration, no mention of housing, healthcare, any of these things. It's all about birth rates, pensions, things like that. Now this would be interesting on its own, okay? And it's again, you know, Mark Carney with these insider connections could have picked anybody, but you pick the guy who's gonna have connections with the

Century Initiative and that's fine. You can do that, but people are going to start to ask questions. And certainly, I'm sure the conservatives are doing this pine closed doors. And we'll start to be doing it publicly in the next few weeks, if not sooner. Why is this important? Why did he pick this guy and what other connections does this guy know, Mark Wiseman co-founded the Century Initiative with who? Len, do you know? Dominic Barton, who's also in the advisory council, right? And you know where else Dominic Barton worked, Len? Eurasia. Eurasia group with Carney's wife all together, right? Say it with me, friends. Could have picked anyone else, but instead you picked this guy. Now, the interesting thing that no one's talking

about with Wiseman, and we've talked about CPPIB here a few times about the questions we have about how well-funded this is and what it means to be well-funded. You know what Wiseman was doing before he founded the Century Initiative? He was the leader of the CPPIB. So you got a guy in Kearney who worked for two central banks, one of them Canadian, one of them UK, similar-ish systems, I guess, in terms of financial markets, one obviously much larger, but the ideals are the same. You got a guy in Wiseman who was the leader of the CPPIB for five years, underperformed, by the way, in all of those years, I'm pretty sure. I have to go back to the year by year

data about underperformed. Certainly underperformed, the benchmark portfolio, which we'll talk about in a second. These guys both deciding that they have to run for public office and their mission is basically, we have to bring in a hundred million people to the country. Why? Like why did the guy who's running the pension decide all of a sudden that a hundred million people is a solution to whatever problem he's seeing on the financial side? I don't think it's just about wage suppression.

I actually think that the pension is not well funded and they know that. But I want to also add that in terms of shrinking the public service, shrinking bloat and things like that, Carney talking about this obviously, he's full of shit. This little bite-sized fella spewing soundbites, trying to compel reporters to stop asking him difficult questions, they're only going to get harder and they should. The reason I know that he's full of shit on shrinking bloat is because Wiseman was the person at the CPPIB who expanded their quote unquote expert and management operation to the tune of I think the most recent numbers is they spend something like $4 billion every year on what I would call expertise and global presence.

So the CPPIB, for a guy who's going to shrink bloat, brings on Wiseman. Wiseman oversaw the CPPIB while they continued their expansion all over the world to places like, you know, they didn't expand to Kingston and Wisconsin, Len. They established headquarters and buildings in places like New York, London, Tokyo, South Paulo, all the most expensive. 300 million spent on a lavish office apparently in Toronto. So what they're saying is that office is actually smaller so they're shrinking the office but really it's gonna be much more lavish as you mentioned. I'm glad you pulled that up. So this guy was... This is Charles Starr's where it's not mine. Lavish downtown. It's 100's 100% true. And on top of that, this guy was one of the catalysts or one of the catalyzers of a change

in the way the CPBIB measures performance. Talk about moving the goalposts. This is important because this guy is going to be advising the potential prime minister, the prime minister right now, unelected, appointed, king-maid, whatever. This guy decided when he was in the CPBIB at the helm, at the helm of the CPPIB, what he was going to do is change the way or try to change the way the CPP measured performance. The CPP basically does two things, right? They invest, they're an active manager. They became an active manager in 2006.

And instead of comparing themselves to the index, because that would be too hard, they're an active manager, they became an active manager in 2006, and instead of comparing themselves to the index because that would be too hard, they compare themselves to a model passive portfolio that they put together. So they're setting the bar for themselves, the expectations, and then trying to beat it every year. Here's the thing, they don't. In the 18 years they've been actively managing,

the best outcome you could interpret from their numbers is a tie. So they're paying all the overhead, all the expertise, they're bringing in the money managers. In my opinion, speculation here on my part, but when you bring in active managers, what you're going to get are active managers buying stake in companies that they can get rich on, on the back end or in their own portfolios or whatever. Like it's your money that's going to this stuff and this is what they're doing. Instead of shrinking the... Instead of shrinking the expert class that they brought in, saving the taxpayer money,

saving you money, you, it's your money, CBPIB is your money. Instead of saving you money, you know what they're doing Len, in the face of this under performance? They're changing the benchmark. They are changing the benchmark. So this year for the first time, we'll have a new benchmark for the CBPIB since the 2006 move to manage money. I say all this, not to upset you, but to only to point out that the people who are telling you they know how to manage money are the people who have proven to be some of the least competent big-time money managers

of the last 100 years. Carney ruined not one, but two countries' financial situations. Weisman was head of the CBBIB while they underperformed a benchmark that they established for themselves, all while spending extra money on staff and bloat and expertise. Not to mention then, they also spend close to a billion dollars on external experts every five or six years. So it's something like 150 million a year. You can see all this in the actuarial report. It's on the CPBIB's website. It's a little dense, but you can do it. Just control F for the terms you want and go from there. You'll find it. The people

who are telling you they're going to control spending and get things back to where they should be have never done it. And arguably, especially at the CPB ID level, it's so easy. You just have to buy the index. We did it for 50 years and it was fine. Just had to buy Bitcoin. That was it. That was a simple one person could make that move. No, no, let's meet them where they are. They have a responsibility to the people of Canada and that responsibility right now does not include Bitcoin, nor should it, in my opinion. But the idea that these guys are going to get spending under control is completely backwards. It's actually like a crazy thing to say that they're going to get it under control when they've never even come close anywhere they've been.

And so when you ask, when people ask, when they say to you, you know, at Easter or whatever, right? I guess Easter would be right after the election. Wow, I can't believe Carney didn't win. You should have the ammunition that we have given you on this show, whether it was the rant a few weeks ago about what it means to buy Canadian, whether it's the stuff about Carney and the Eurasia group and his wife and the contracts, whether it's the rant a few weeks ago about what it means to buy Canadian, whether it's the stuff about Carney and the Eurasia Group and his wife and the contracts, whether it's the stuff about Wiseman and Butts and the Century Initiative and the CPPIB,

it's all there for you. You're never going to see it on CTV. Evan fucking Solomon in between brokering under the table art deals, okay, is never going to say this to you. And I'll just, I'll leave it on this. If you wanna know what kind of ethics the party and the man follow and think that need to be followed, okay? You can agree or disagree with the Solomon art thing, but the CBC fired Evan Solomon over the art thing. He brokered a deal to someone else over a guest that he had on Power and Politics in 2016.

Who was the guy he sold the art to Len? It was MC, right? It was Mark fucking Carney. And so like, again, they could have picked anyone. And this is the guy they went with. They don't care about the things they're telling you they care about. It is right there in front of you to see it's plain as day everywhere you look. You should be sharing this with people.

It's important. The country is in a place that it can't afford another eight years, 10 years, whatever of whatever the fuck we're doing now. And we got to, we got to do what you can to stop it. And I continue to say, if you have a harder joy, both fucking harder. Like, I don't know. Like, you know, I gave this rant in the group chat we're in the other day. But the idea that Bitcoiners think that you can just ignore this. Yes, you can.

Yeah, I totally disagree. And I think it's wrong. I think it's wrong. I don't think Bitcoiners don't understand. Like Carney tweeting out stuff about Bitcoin in 2019 and 2020 when Musk said he wasn't going to buy it anymore. He's like, yeah, I totally agree with this. Bitcoin needs to be stopped. It's an environmental disaster, blah, blah, blah. Like the Bitcoiners who think, I'll just repeat the rant. For the Bitcoiners who think that you're going to somehow be above the law or-

Not above, just existing. Say, Joey, you're going down a path here. I gave you a node last week, and it seems like within the past few days, you've advanced your Bitcoin journey quite a bit since putting your hands in the node. I know it's not yet synced, but just having it, you're like, wow. It's always been the same, yeah. Do you have any faith in the banking system? Any faith? You're like, wow, you've advanced a lot. Do you have any faith in the banking system? I mean, long-term, no, obviously not. So we've been doing this show almost four years.

This might be the fourth year actually. It's 2008, I think, right? Yeah, it might be the anniversary. Happy anniversary. Happy anniversary, Joey. Why would after four years of this, seeing what's transpired everything in the past, whatever in the amount of years, what happened in Ottawa just two years and change ago, why would anybody even consider putting a penny into the economic system that has been set up that's traditional finance?

No fucking way. You buy Bitcoin and you keep that Bitcoin. You just transact in Bitcoin. You do as much as you can in Bitcoin and you try to get out of that. That system, you're going to get fucking rugged. Bitcoin, you have the ability to control your financial future. Sure, they could close the off-ramps. They could ostracize you. You have opportunities. We've been doing this show for four years. Hopefully you've had put four years worth of time and effort into finding a way to GTFO. Right? And then once you have the ability to GTFO,

you're okay. See, I don't think it's that simple. And I know that we disagree on this point. It's no, I disagree on this point, right? Like I said in the chat, there's a group chat, me and Len are in, that's not well adjusted at all, certainly not from X company. And the thing that I said in the chat was there's a whole bunch of people in Bitcoin who think that they can just leave at any time when things get sour enough that you can no longer handle it. Yeah, you see the beautiful, there are laws on the books that stop that. Like no one is going to say, no, you don't think, you don't think you're on a list somewhere

for this show. I don't care if I'm on a list. Like how are you going to leave? What are you going to do? You going to, what are you going to do? Harriet Tubman, the fuck out of here underground. Like you got, you have to get on a plane or show a passport across a border. You have more than one passport.

You travel to United States. You're visiting there from there. You fly to fuck out. I don't think it's that easy. It is deadly simple. And that's it. And if you want to go, you could charter a flight to the U S and then from there, take an international flight with your other passport and go.

And there's lots to do. Joey, there's lots to unpack here. That hundred million thing. Did you know when is the last time? It's like the century initiative, right? Yeah. Okay. We're talking in the next 75 years, it's going to more than double, 2.5.

Yeah. We're bringing over 60 million more Indians. Yeah, that's the plan. How long did it take from where a 40, we'll call it 40 million right now. I'm just rounding it. How long did it take to go from 20 to 40 million? How call it 40 million right now. I'm just rounding it. How long did it take to go from 20 to 40 million? How long do you think it took? 20 years. 57 years to double it. So now we're talking 75 years to a little bit more than double it. So the projection is it's

not asked, it's not like parabolic. It's just pretty much steady. So I'm looking at that, I'm not trying to defend it. You're right, you're right. The population graph is not necessarily the bigger problem, right? If you look at the last 50 years, the same line that the population has also has like a social, let's say it has a social tensions line running beside it at about the same clip. Once you get from 20 to 40, you start to see that second line, the social tensions line move vertically a little bit. From 40 to a hundred, that social tensions line is going to go vertical. And that's the problem, right? And the people, guys like

Wiseman, guys like, they don't give a fuck. McKinsey, all these people, they don't care. Going back, we talked about this every fucking week for four years. And then even before that, who knows how much you've been looking in diving deep. So there's been ample opportunity to do a fuck. Three years ago, consoles came out, people made bank by selling those consoles and it was all under the table. That was five years ago. That's five years ago. Five years ago. There's another console coming out in the very near future. The same thing could rinse and repeat. You can. There's the opportunities here to make a decent amount of Bitcoin, period. And you can't, this stuff is yours. You own it. Who cares? Somebody could make it plausible that you own it.

How could you have, how could anybody know how much you have? It's impossible to know. Right? Like it's just virtually impossible. I don't even know how much I fucking have. But it's not about, it's, but like the law, the CRA law says that they can tell you whether or not they think you have something and you got to pay on that. Beautiful. You travel, think about somebody hypothetically, in the hypothetical world. Somebody visited you at United States for a little bit.

Oh, from there they hopped on a flight, went somewhere else. Yeah. Good fucking luck. This is the case. So this is the other thing I said. And the reason I think voting is important is not because- Harder. No, no, you do it harder.

That's the thing. Yeah. You have to vote hard. It's not because I think that voting is going to change the outcome. It will not. And I don't think that it will. But even the most staunch multi-passport United States visit enjoyer to international flight hopper has to admit that there could come a time, much like with the frozen bank accounts thing, there could come a time when there's

a capital flight issue. It happens very quickly and suddenly the Bitcoiners aren't allowed to leave the state to go to the States anymore. And then what do you do? Then you use a charter of flight. So you're getting into territory that you've never done. You don't know if it's going to work. You don't know if that's the only thing that's available, if you're going to be able to afford it because the demand is going to go up so high. You need to know people that you probably don't know right now. It's difficult. And so my suggestion to people is not to ignore elections. It is to vote to extend your runway, your personal runway, as much and as long as possible. Let's talk about the example. The decel is the kids call it.

Canada, to this point, let's go back 2015. You know Canada was in a recession in 2015. Allegedly, yeah. I've heard about it anyway. Oil prices were tanking and that's a huge result of it. But 2015 Canada was in reset. Why did Stephen Harper get kicked out? And why did Justin Trudeau win a resounding victory, made huge gains in every part of Canada? Why? You got to look at, well, people were tired of Harper at the time. The economy was in a recession at the time, you know, very lengthy election. There's a lot going on there. Also remember there was one thing called bill fee 51. Remember the anti-terrorist bill that was like, yeah, I do actually.

What's the stop? Oh man. Bitcoin is, is there a possibility in the future, just in the way you see things playing out, could Bitcoin be considered a terroristic discussion? Bringing up talking and promoting it? Yeah, of course. We've already talked about either the UK or you talked about how if you're- Who the fuck brought up Bill 51? I don't know. It's the blues. And who was part of the fucking blues? The guy that's right now is part of the blues. Yeah, yeah, I was there in 2015. He has been there since his twenties.

I'm not disagreeing with this by the way. I think the runway is longer under one party than the other. Same. No, no. I'm going to argue it's the same thing. Okay. So this is a different argument than we've had before. I'm going to give you an example.

2022, March, I went to London, Ontario to go to Tahini's. Pierre Pelliev was there. He bought a shawarma with Bitcoin using Lightning. Bitcoin at the time was around $45,000. Shortly thereafter, we had Luna. We had a few things that happened and it sells. 15K, right? But during that huge drawdown, a lot of people were ragging on Pierre Poliev talking about Bitcoin. How could this be a protection against inflation? How could you even talk about this? The risk in this. People are going to lose their life savings. He never talked about Bitcoin again. And there's a reason for that.

Just, I mean, I'll go further back. Just a month prior to going to Tahini's, he was on Breedlove show. I invited him to come. I personally invited him to come. And I asked him and he did not want to come. That's fine. That's his choice. Bitcoin was not discussed again and it has not been discussed again. It's not on this platform. It wasn't Trump's platform. Kind of like he went to the least of Bitcoin conference. This guy hasn't even talked about Bitcoin at all. If you believe in something, Joey, you will stand by that. For sure. Yeah. What this shows me is that he's willing to forego something. We agree on something else. Yeah, We agree on this. To get something else.

Yeah, we agree on this, yeah. And if you're willing to do that, what are you gonna do to maintain once you have that? You're gonna give up something else and something else. So to me- People are loving this, by the way. The viewer number just keeps going up. It's the same shit.

So as I said, Canada only had two parties that ever governed. Now, the Liberal Party of Canada, as we have today, is not the same Liberal Party even 20 years ago. And even the Conservative Party is not the same Progressive Conservative Party 40 years ago. But still, there's a lineage here. We have to at least acknowledge that only two parties that ever govern and will continue to govern. And they got us to this point. is to acknowledge that only two parties that have ever governed and will continue to govern. And they got us to this point. It's not like this prosperity. It's, we're looking. It's the blob. It's the blob. Yeah. So there's no like de-sell. It's the same fucking shit. Interesting. You will get to the same end. I don't think it's going to change the timeline.

Carney, he even said, I want to bring up something. He didn't torpedo two economies. I can't believe I'm going to say this because 2008, he was the governor of the Bank of Canada. This was a global thing. He mishandled. He mishandled. He didn't torpedo, but he did mishandle. Mortgage-backed securities that were done by US banks, large US banks and international banks. Canada's a minnow in this. So what could he have done? national banks, Canada's a minnow in this. So what could he have done? Keith Dicker tells this story. And the same thing with Brexit. That was a political thing. What could he have done to have alleviated...

He can't help but put his emotional thoughts on things into the public discourse. He's the Bank of England governor. He has to comment on Brexit, how he thinks it's, whatever he said, I forget now. But what can, in this type of situation, this was the... The point is that he mishandled it in both cases. I'm not saying... How? Because he doesn't have to talk about it as the Bank of England governor, number one, and number two, he doesn't have to let the Canadian housing the bank of England governor, number one, and number two. He doesn't have to let the Canadian housing market continue to just rip higher during those key years of the OA crisis.

He doesn't have to do that, right? Is the governor of the central bank, is it a political position? It is a political position. Yeah. Then they're subservient to the politics of the day, then it's the politicians that are responsible for putting them back. See, I don't necessarily think that's what a political position at the bank is subservient to.

I don't believe that to be the case. Who appoints that person? That guy is operating... Carney is not the kind of guy who is influenced by what the popular opinion is, or even what the right thing is. He's an extremist. And you see this in his climate policy, you see this in his thing is. He's an extremist. And you see this in his climate policy, you see this in his speeches.

That's a totally different argument. I know, but I'm saying the idea that he is political in terms of position, but not political in terms of incentives. And that's a dangerous place to be. Because political incentivizing is a feasible thing for people. If you're Poliev, you're doing what's politically wise or what you think is politically wise. If you're Carney. Yeah. If you're Carney, I'm not convinced you're doing that.

You're doing what you think is right because you are better. Did it as the Bank of Canada governor? Did it as the Bank of England governor and he's going to do it as a prime minister. That's what I would say. He probably did it, but I don't think like his actions really changed anything. Governor of the bank of Canada, really what the fuck did they do? Like I mean, the grand scheme of things again, going back that great recession in Canada, there's almost nothing they could have done to have shielded themselves. And in fact, they did a decent job because of laws and how banks

were set up here. We didn't have any banks that went tits up here. No, we didn't. We didn't. We were largely the same. So that's, you know... Okay. So this argument aside, good argument, where do you... No, there's more. There's more to this too. Okay. Keep going. Keep going. Okay. Sure. Like, Holy Eve, Bill S210, this one just came out. This is the... You had to register your age to watch these... content. Thank you.

Just slippery slow. We talked about this a lot on access of easy. Yeah. I think it's a bullshit law. Yeah. Incredibly. The liberals were against this, right? Like this is, this is part of like, fuck, we're looking at what's going to happen in the next few years. Joey, like I don't care. This is Excel or Excel. Vote harder. You're going to get Excel Excel. And I'm considering... This is a big question. I'm not even considering fucking Jagmeet Singh. The big question then is like, if we both think that this is going the same way, the only difference sounds like it's a time horizon. Like, you're not worried at all that this is going to happen too quickly for you to act. I have acted. I have done lots to this point and I urge you, you, Joey, and you, everyone watching

and listening in, take fucking time to look into this. You'll see what's going on around you. Is it getting better? Find somewhere else. Like there are places and there's no perfect place out there. I think I found the perfect place for me and it's riddled with problems. I could admit that. But the problems that exist over there, I could stomach because there's a lot more good that comes with the bad. Here like the fucking like the weather and like the shit just fucking drives me down. You know what I mean? So, but some people like it.

Some people like to go skiing or skating or playing. I don't do that. I'm not a winter guy. It's not me. Fuck it. So just, you have time. You, you still have that window of opportunity to look, to explore, to take action. Also, you could continually build on your Bitcoin nest.

There's nothing stopping you from buying Bitcoin, either through an exchange or peer to peer, or also doing services on the side for Bitcoin direct or cash and converting that into Bitcoin. Of course, you will have to declare that the CRA. There's opportunities exist right now to do that. Don't miss that before the window closes. Once that window closes, you're gonna be kicking yourself. It's like that fucking tree adage. The best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is today.

So don't fucking wait for tomorrow. Do it today. You have an opportunity to look into it. I have, and I'm just fucking urging everybody. And you even said, it's tough to bring everybody with you. That's fine, you can't bring everybody with you. Bring the ones that you truly care about and the ones that can't, they have to stay behind for whatever reason. All the more power to

them. You know, like it sucks, but this is it. Yeah, I am quitting. Who's going to win the election? I think it's going to be Poliev. I think Poliev might pull the majority here. I'm just basing it off so few pieces of information. And so my opinion could change in the next four weeks and change. There was an event that took place in North York yesterday. Poliev went, I think it was yesterday. They had to turn away people at the door because the line looked nuts. It was around at the same time it was reported that Carney had to go to or was was in Newfoundland and there was a protest preventing them from getting to the location. Like just those things, those little things make me believe man oh man I think that there's going to be a conservative majority here. Carney might be able to still get a hundred seats or so, which is a huge gain. But I don't know. I can't see

a path for him to power without Quebec and there's no way he's going to be able to get Quebec. Certainly not now. The TVA, like there's still going to be a French language debate, but the TVA one is like the Quebec, it's the Quebec station debate. And so he's not going to do that one. Have you seen the clip of Pierre Polyev and Mark Carney having a little tete-a-tete in 2020 over the pipelines and Brookfield's investment in overseas oil and gas while stopping Canadian investment oil and gas? It's pretty good. It's a glimpse into what the debate could look like. Carney, smarmy, speaking down to

people, Polyev asking direct questions, not getting direct answers. I think it's going to be hard for Carney to win a debate, but I also don't think Pauliev is that competent. I don't think his campaign is that competent. I think if I look at yesterday's event, what should have been a home run campaign launch event on Sunday night, had a few thousand people watching on YouTube, there's probably another thousand and 1500 people in the room with them there. I thought it was a disaster.

I thought Roman Baber, doing the intros of some of the people in the room, little stuff like didn't know how to say their names. Poliev's wife gets up on stage. She's not really much of a public speaker and I think is not what you need right now in an election cycle. And then Pierre again, when you leave them on his own, if he speaks for more than 20 or 30 seconds, he starts to, he starts to trip and he did it again last night, even though that's like a friendly crowd, there's no questions.

It's just like a rally basically to announce you're, you know, going to try and win an election in a month. And I just don't think either campaign is very competent. And if, if, if all those And if all those variables are in flux, then potentially there's a dice roll where Poliev fucks up every single one of them. And then all Carney has to do is be neutral in a debate and control the one thing he can control, which I think is the speaking down and the tone. And if he's able to do that, it could be a liberal win. I'm not sure if I'd say it's a majority, like 338.

338 thinks liberals are winning 338 seats in April. I don't think that's the case, but I do think it's possible. It's a majority. People like you and me and people who listen to watch the show look at stuff like, what about the policies? We just did this whole rant on CPBIB and Wiseman and Butz and Eurasia last week and the week before that. But a lot of people just turn on the debates and go on vibes. And I don't think Pierre's got a good vibe, honestly. I really do think that there's something about that guy that's going to turn people off when he gets into a position where he's got to go one-on-one with what could be with what could be a cool common collected and in a lot of ways very qualified Mark Carney. That's the thing that I think people should be concerned about. What's going to happen in 905?

905 is going to go liberal, I think. Oh, okay. Then it's going to be a... 905 is an NDP provincially, right? No, provincially it's blue, a lot of blue. Nope, there's no blue in Hamilton. It's a lot of blue. It's a lot of blue.

It's a lot of blue. It's a lot of blue. It's a lot of blue. It's a lot of, right? So I can't... No, provincially it's blue. A lot of blue. Nope, there's no blue in Hamilton. It's Donis Kelly... 905 stretches far east as Whitby, Oshawa. That's 905, Whitby? Yeah.

Wow. And then King City? I thought that was 416. Oh, I don't know. Hamilton's going to be... Hamilton will be red. So let's... Dundas know. Hamilton is going to be, Hamilton will be red. Dundas will be red. Hamilton will be red. Another thing too, like the other thing people should consider and I'll let you talk about the electoral borders. What about the NDP? Who's... Okay. So

isn't the question then like, can the conservatives out vote liberal and NDP? Cause it's not going to be a liberal NDP split. It's going to be like NDP gets close to nothing and all those people are going to vote liberal, right? So like that's a whole other piece of the equation when people say, Oh, I need NDP is going to like, no, I don't, I think that's going to be bad for conservative, for conservative candidates in a lot of places in Hamilton. For sure. It's going to be bad for them.

I don't know what other other spots in the area, but you're telling me 905 was all the way to fucking Alberta. Now I didn't know that. I thought, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no the west side, the east side I've mentioned it's in Oshawa, Whitby, Richmond Hill, Thornhill, Woodbridge. Like it's a fucking huge year. So potentially a lot of blue. So going back to the federally, what's going to happen? I don't know.

I suspect there's going to be like a smattering of red and blue. 416, it seems like it's going to be mostly red. There's going to be some inroads for blue. And it's not going to be the same way it was in 2011 where the liberals got 30 seats. It's going to be like, it's like, you know, how much do you hate Trudeau and the last 10 years? And how much do you hate... Like it's all, I think I'm worried about a vibes election. Vibes elections are not good. They're hard to predict. A lot of variables.

And it's on a Monday night too. So that's good for us. But you know, I'd like to know what the turnout is on a Monday after a weekend for an election. Be curious about that. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out. The NDP are broke. Yeah, totally.

They don't have enough money. John, you can sell a couple of his Gucci bags maybe and fund an election. And there's going to be, I can't believe this is possible. There's a possibility that the People Party of Canada might have a lot of seats. When I say a lot, I mean more than zero. That's just what they have right now. might have a lot of seats. When I say a lot, I mean more than zero. What was the thing I sent you today? The CTV projection from February 28th had him at like 30 something seats. I think it's going to come from Quebec. He's Quebec. Bernier, yeah. Because Quebec has to vote. They're going to vote for some block, right? But there's always

a Federalist party that usually picks up the rest in the last few years has been the Liberal Party for the most part. Before that, it was the NDP. And so it was never really the conservative since Mulroney. So it's probably not going to be pulling you again. The Liberal Party, they don't an Anglophone Liberal leader never does well in Quebec and this guy is switching that nice, right? Not gonna do the debate the French language debate. I can't see them making very huge gains there He's doing one French language debate just not TVA one. Yeah, he's still not gonna do very well agree Yeah, like the Anglophone liberal leaders tend to do very poorly. His French is bad. He sounds like I sounded when I was learning French Oh, yeah, Paul Martin his French is much better, but he couldn't do it because a little sponsors

scandal, but just historically they don't. Anglophone leaders don't do well in... Anglophone liberal leaders don't do well in Quebec. NDP, no way. So what federalist parties left? There's the vacuum there. It's going to be potentially, I'm not saying for sure, potentially PPC. The potential party of Canada. Yeah.

That could be an absolute incredible turn of events where you have then the block getting their 20, 30 seats and then the PPC maybe getting 30 seats, 20 or whatever, maybe, and then the rest go to the Liberal Party over there. That's a lot from Quebec. And then depending how it goes in Ontario, that's going to be the deciding factor who wins the election. Because if the Liberals do really well in Ontario, then they could probably carry that for the rest of the country. If the Conservatives, like they do in 905, they do really well there. Because in in 2011 they formed a government without Quebec. So it's been done. It could be done again.

I don't know. I wouldn't bet either way. I think that's going to be majority for the conservative party. I'm not sharing for anybody. This is just what I see. The debates are going to be must watch, I think, for the first time in this country in a long time. When is the last who's getting excited about O'Toole, O'Toole, Trudeau debates,

right? Like nobody who's getting excited about nobody. Who is the candidate for the conservatives in 2019? Sure. Sure. That's right. I forgot the guy's fucking name. He's so milk toast. Geez. Yeah. You know, it's going. He's so milk toast. Jeez. Yeah.

It's going to be interesting. He should have got a second kick at the can, I thought. You know what? His time has passed because his personality just doesn't lend itself to what is needed now. It's a sort of a sound bite economy at the moment. And it worked for Polio for a long time. But like I said, I think that's probably run its course.

I, you know, funny, we talked about Jim ball, silly running as a conservative. Um, a few weeks ago on the show, maybe it was last week. If Paulie have loses, you saw he surfaced day out of nowhere on the Jordan Peterson podcast. Oh, what are the odds of that? You think Jim ball silly is thinking about getting into politics? Or what about what's a Mr. Wonderful? What's his name?

Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin O'Leary. Yeah. All right. So what, what about, what's a Mr. Wonderful? What's his name? Not Polandorf. Oh boy. Yeah. Yeah. Kevin O'Leary. Yeah. All right. So why not him? Like he tried running in the past. Why not try running again? He's been very active in talking about Canadian politics. So it's not like he's been shying away from it. What about Gretzky? I would love to see Gretzky run. Yeah. But I, you know, he's- They're throwing fucking feces at his statue and he's got better stuff to do. Like I said on this show a couple weeks

ago, like if you think that a trade war is cleverly, you know, putting clever quips on under Gretzky wine at the liquor store and buying Canadian ketchup, you got a fucking wake up call coming. Although I did see today, the tariffs are going to be more narrow than originally announced. So who knows what that's going to look like come April 2nd. That's going to impact too. A hundred percent. Daniel Smith is in the news because people are claiming she's told Trump just wait till after the Canadian election to run the tariff. Yeah. And you get it. You get a more friendly, um, get a more friendly prime

minister. So yeah, Trump's actions is definitely going to impact what happens moving forward to it. What a fucking interesting time we have right now. And they called, they wanted the election. It's not like it had to, they decided this is the right time to do it. So if they fail, if it's going to look so fucking bad because they were in power, if the majority goes to the conservative party, I can't see Carney sticking around.

If it's a minority government, any way, shape or form, Carney is probably going to stick around. Yeah, I think so. Right? He's got the personality to be there till he dies. He's like the Pope. I don't think he's interested in doing anything else. I do think that it's funny, and this will come up in the debates. Like if I had to pick a couple of things that I would really poke at Kearney for one would

be the Brookfield move. Um, I think, I think they gotta ask him about those Ghislaine Maxwell pictures. I can't imagine they just let that go. Um, and then the other territory, I don't know, but I mean, she's in jail convicted, so it's not like it's debatable. And the question you have for the guy is like, what the fuck were you doing at a party with this person? Do you not like look into the people who you're affiliated with or associated with? It's not like you were just there having a good time. He's on Molly in a fucking park. You can tell.

I've seen that look a million fucking times. You were out of tri You were at a, what is it? Almost sharing drinks with guys like Chris guy and stuff. Yeah. You know, you weren't, but like you were, if somebody took a picture, right. And say, look here, everybody's smiling and you know what I mean? It's, I'm not trying to give him a, posing for a picture is one thing, but they're not that the pictures are not, he's not posing. Yeah. Like they're candid. He's having a, he's having a good time.

He's on his fucking knees crawling toward his wife and Ghislaine Maxwell, who are already situated there. That's not a staged photo. There should be shit. I don't know. Nightmare blunt rotation. Carney, his weirdo wife, Ghislaine Maxwell, and whoever else is at that festival they were at.

It is a festival on a private property. You're telling me these guys are not on drugs. Like, OK, fine. I guess. I got a bridge to sell you, but whatever. Let's, you know, let's talk about the asylum claims over. Fuck that. Let's end this show. Yeah. No, let's end this show. I mean, I could talk about this shit all day, but did you see the asylum claims? Of course I did. I got, I got in this argument with Benjamin Rabidu on this program three months ago. And I told him, he's like, no, the number is going to go down. We're going to lose people, blah, blah, blah.

I told him, this is what's going to happen. They're going to start filing asylum claims. We don't have the capacity to deal with it. We refuse to say no to these fucking brain dead international laws that you have to take it, all these asylum claimants and review them all. They get, they got to be allowed to stay until you review them. We refuse to back down or we refuse to stand up for ourselves. And so naturally all these kids on two year hospitality degrees who don't

want to go back to India are going to file asylum claims. There's, there's no end to the shamelessness of the people who came here. You're both right though. I'll explain it because people have left and it's measurable for the people that have left, but there's a, it's measurable for the people that have left. Okay. There's a, it's an influx of inland asylum claim. So you're both right. People live. Okay. So this is, okay. So let me ask you this then, given what I told you about Wiseman, Carney, Eurasia, Century Initiative. Do you think Carney is going to say, yeah, we got to send these

guys back asylum claimants can't stay? Or do you think he's going to say, we got to be, you got to be gentle. Let them stay. Keep them here. How many widgets? Amazon's going to start delivering me in an hour instead of overnight. If these, if we keep on taking people, what they have to do is they have to increase the amount of people that are processing those applications in order to move them along faster. And I don't think that's going to happen. Why don't we put up a couple of LMIAs for those positions? Can we do that? I mean, WestJet's hiring temporary foreign workers to pilot aircraft. So why can't we bring in a couple of people from whatever country to process the claim? It's insane. It is absolutely insane.

The information is that we talk about, and I'm telling you operation GTFO fucking started. Look, I'm not trying to be funny here. I'm trying to be deadly serious. What is holding you here in five, ten years? Nothing. Nothing. Maybe family, but like, God, it comes a point in time where you got to say, you got to look for number one. Yeah. Right. If there's no future, there is no fucking future. Yeah. I can't see it. Just, you know, and everybody's got to do the same fucking thing. You think this is going to stop? You think? No, it's not. The end game is already, the end is determined.

Fucking intersections are being blocked for services. You can't fucking expect this to stop. The frequency of this shit happening is gonna increase. And now instead of going to the intersections, it's gonna happen on the fucking 401 or Gardner, which it fucking has happened. People have fucking. It already started. It already started.

Wait till the summer. The weather's not really protest friendly right now and it's still happening. Wait till the summertime to see what this really turns into. Yeah. So what do you do? What? Like go to the game. I'm going to vote fucking for this guy 10 times. Fuck that.

No, fuck that. You know what I mean? Like, fuck. There's so the world is so fucking larger, so much to do. And you know what? Like most of my capital is locked up in my house, but you know, I, I can respect that, but man, the Bitcoin I have, it's fucking liquid. Like I could almost just say, fuck the house.

Everything else I could just take with me and it's deal with the house remote. Yeah. I just walk away and just if things get that bad and Bitcoin reps, like who just like, there's so many beautiful places to live in. There's so much history people could look at. Culture, food, good weather. You only have one chance at this life. For sure. Once you lose it, that's it. So make the most of it. Don't fucking die in the hill that this is the place you're going to have to live. Yeah, don't die waiting for it to get better or pretending that you're living in a world that you

want to live in instead of the one you're actually living in. Those are huge mistakes that a lot of people are making right now. Be transient. If the next place sucks, go to the next end and the next end and that because eventually you'll find something or eventually the world just keeps getting worse. You're just always one step ahead of where the shittiness is. And that's a good place to be rather than just sticking it out in the fucking frigid cold for six months of the year. You can't play tennis and golf outside. Fuck the shit. Agreed. Agreed. Let's send it. Let's get out of here. Yeah. Um, come back Thursday. I'll be here with, uh, Praveen. Maybe Len will be here. Hopefully he's here. If he's still

in the country, I don't know. He could be packing his bags right now off camera. I'm not a hundred percent sure. So I'll have to sure so Love to find out maybe it might have thrown the short a different time because the time zone issues pretty soon Did you know wait wait the code if did you know there's potential and I can't even say fuck it Let's just end it there. I don't want to okay. Okay. God bless everyone. We'll catch you next time All right, take care and don't be a cock