The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - Carney Lands, The McKinsey Scam, Mrs. Carney, What's Next For Canadian Politics? | The CBP 206 Pt 2 (Bitcoin Podcast)

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

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Wow. So, uh, thoughts on the thumbnail? Did you like it? I've been using the Canva tools, the AI tools. I, I'm trying not to make the thumbnails too clickbaity, but I'll tell you Len, once I get going, I'm having a blast making these things. The prompts get so long and so fun. I had a great one of, uh, Zombie Freeland and Zombie Trudeau putting a crown on Carney's

head, but I just couldn't get the crown to look like, it was like deformed AI slop. God, that one was good though. That was a really good one. Maybe I'll share some of the ones that don't make the cut after the show from now on. They just stay in your grok and canvas. Do that.

They're funny. Do it on Discord. Sure, yeah, put it on my Discord. Yeah, yeah, sure. I fucking forgot to mention, our Discord is just rocking. And Joey, you're even making discord. Yeah. Sure. I fucking forgot to mention it's it's our discord is just rocking and Joey You're even making the odd appearance every I have no choice because I'm under attack. I'm under attack in there There's nuts and your questions being asked of you too. So there's dialogue with so, you know, sometimes you're not present to

Answer but either way like if you're not on it, like I'm not talking with you join talk about it The people listening Definitely go on to it If you're not on it, like I'm not talking about you, John, talking about the people listening, definitely go onto it. If you wanna know the link to it, it should be in the notes below in both the audio, the podcast and also the video, so check it out. But okay, we got something to talk about what's going on. Mark, yeah, you wanna start?

Well, let's talk about the convention. Let's talk about Paulie. No, no, we'll write Paulie was asking you yes twice. Let's do it the chair. Paulie, where? The fucking chair. Where? He asked once in the chair. Oh, yeah. Yes What and once on Twitter or ax? Okay, and so yeah that that fucking cheer I love it that he took the chair. Apparently that's a standing tradition that I didn't even know that's the case

So you take the chair whatever share? It's just awesome. I'm gonna be sure to share in the And the face that he used, it's the exact same. Looks familiar, doesn't it? That face. Yes. Yes. I don't want to say what it is, but he did that before. It does it again.

Chair face. Chair face. What did Pauli call it? The cuck chair. The cuck chair. I do like that chair. I got to be honest with you. As someone who bought chairs for this room, I'm getting tired. You like that, I'm getting tired. Yeah, I'm getting tired of the other ones. I kind of like the more

like ritzy, luxury, like studded velvet. I think that that feels like. If it comes out with a roller and just paint it, I could take care of that. You think? Yeah, you want to come by? Yeah, why not? I've never been here, so I don't know. You can't paint in the roller. I can make whatever color you want. Do you need the address? I haven't seen you in years. I've actually been here for a year.. I haven't seen you in years. So I want to make sure you still don't get lost on the way here. Anything. I got to find this picture. You can apparently share image files on.

Oh, my God. See, podcast episodes could have images for chapters if you're using podcast 2.0 features. And we do have like we're podcast 2.0 enabled So we should somehow do that. I don't know how the fuck it's done. Fuck it. It's too much work pictures Screenshots Joey's the one doing all this stuff. He's too busy. I'm doing it or not There's a yeah, so that's the familiar face. I can't zoom in. I don't know how to zoom in. Oh

So yeah, it's just that. There you go. How do you do this? There you go. And now you can just see the face there. I like that. Very interesting. Very interesting. Was he doing that? Did he do that pose? Was it like a security camera or somebody just above snapping a photo? I don't know how it was done. I don't know either way Great stuff. He's still our prime minister. Yeah, right, even though Mark Carney has been elected as a liberal liberal leader

Justin Trudeau is still our prime minister because why does you got to get sworn in just like theoretically if there's an election like we didn't have this leadership this this liberal leadership, and Khrushchev was the leader of the Liberal Party, and there was an election, and Poliev won. He doesn't instantly become prime minister, he still has to get sworn in. So that there's a period of time. So that's what's happening. People are wondering what the fuck, that's it. It's just a period of time, and there's a transition that's going to happen, and then Carney is going to get eventually sworn in as prime minister. Now, Carney won sworn in as Prime Minister. Now Carney won with 170,000-ish votes were cast and he won with 85-86%. Thoroughly thrashed everybody else. Freeland must have been embarrassed by her showing getting around I think 8%. She was expecting way higher than that. That's a pretty bad showing. But I think this highlights the number of people that voted.

170,000, Joey, voted. 400,000 signed up. So that's 230,000 people for whatever reason. Perhaps they were signed up illegitimately, or they just didn't want to vote. I wonder how many of those were just turned off, what happened with Chandra and Ruby. A bunch. Yeah, I think a bunch. And to me, that's a sad sign if that's the case. And if you believe that, that's another thing. You're 100% right. I don't know if these

numbers can be audited, if they're transparent. They're certainly not on the Bitcoin blockchain. We can't run a node and fucking check this shit out. We have to rely on somebody. So that's, you know, so it is what it is. And there's nothing more. I don't think it was, I don't think it was a slanted vote. I think that was the expectation. Basically, certainly from Carney the entire time.

I don't know from everyone else the entire time and watching the debates, it's like, you know, who can agree with Carney the hardest? Basically it was Frank Bell is not coordination. Bail it. Bail is I thought was I didn't agree with bail us on a lot of stuff. He's still kind of a climate character there, but he's the most competent guy and he's the furthest removed from the current government. You know, I just I'll say this.

Okay. We'll talk about Carney in a second, but I want to talk about the Liberal Party and maybe Trudeau as well since he's the outgoing prime minister. There's a lot of talk over the last few months about how corrupt that government's become. And I don't think this is a problem with only the Trudeau liberals. It's probably a problem with many governments who spend that much time in power. The reason that governments are not supposed to remain in power for three, four, or five terms here in Canada, in any parliamentary system really, and why the places like the United States

limited two terms per individual president is because you just, there's too many tentacles at that point to say that you're, you know, impartial or remove from corruption or remove from political favors and things like that. It's very difficult. And I just want to point out that the people who say the Trudeau liberals were corrupt, I think they're correct. And like I said, maybe not for the reasons that I mentioned earlier, it's not a unique problem, but I want to point to something here that I think is a bigger problem. And the problem is McKinsey. McKinsey, you may know, is a sort of corpo, think tank, advisory group.

There's many ways to describe something like McKinsey and Partners. Basically though, these guys drive policy for the country. And it's not just our country, by the way, that they drive policy for. It's a dozen countries around the world. European countries talk to McKinsey and major corporations talk to McKinsey. And the reason you engage a company like McKinsey is so that you can do something unpopular with people or employees and Then say that it wasn't your idea. We hired an impartial third party and it needed to be done The thing that a lot of people don't know about McKinsey who like I mentioned is driving Policy for major nation-states major corporations companies around the world and probably other things that I'm missing NGOs

Maybe who knows the thing that people don't know about McKinsey Lend is that, did you know they also run a hedge fund called IO? Yeah, they have a hedge fund arm. So McKinsey- Thought Blockstream was administering that. Yeah. So McKinsey is actually advising countries, nation-states, advising countries, nation-states, huge organizations, corporations, and then profiting on the back of the policy that either gets enacted or not enacted. Because you can bet either way. You profit either way, right? If you suggest that a country like Canada goes all in on green energy, there's a way

to profit off that if they agree. And if they don't agree, there's a way to profit off that too. The corruption is actually at the point of the contracting with these advisory groups. And I think that if Poliev gets eight years or Carney gets eight years or whoever gets eight years, the groups that are in bed with these guys will continue to be the ones who are driving policy for the country, continue to be the ones who are raping and pillaging, whether it's resources or labor groups or whatever, and just making money on the hedge fund side. No one even realizes that they have a hedge fund.

MIO is the name of the hedge fund. Go look. Who are we? MIO Partners Incorporated is a global investment and advisory institution with a commitment to the highest level of investor-focused values. Wow, and ethics and decades of experience. Oh, by the way, MIO is a subsidiary of McKinsey & Company and a registered investment advisor regulated by the SEC. Okay. The criminals and crooks, you know, you may say they're in government. You may say they're politicians. We may ask, how did these politicians get so rich during their time in, in, in

parliament? These people are not the people you should be looking at. It is the McKinsey's you should be looking at. And so when people say Trudeau was corrupt, point them to McKinsey's you should be looking at. And so when people say Trudeau was corrupt, point them to McKinsey, point them to KPMG, point them to any of these sort of big firms that guide policy, faceless, faceless. And you know, it's not, it's, you know, if you think that's not enough Len, the Trudeau Liberals, just pulling some data here from a number of different sources, more than $200 million in contracts between 2015 and 2023

with McKinsey. Dominic Barton is a name you may know. Do you recognize that name? No. Dominic Barton was the CEO of McKinsey for a long time and later was appointed as an economic advisor under Trudeau and then eventually an ambassador envoy to China, something like that, received a position in the Trudeau government. So Hedgie, government advisor, McKinsey CEO, like the revolving door, the stuff goes deep.

It goes deep. It's not one guy or one party. It's that when you walk in the door of Sussex, there are people who have expectations and the power to get from you things that you didn't think you were willing to give. And if you think that that's not going to happen to the next guy and the guy after that and the guy after that, this is why it's important that you become a Bitcoiner because it exempts you, it removes you from this nonsense. There's no games being played around here. Everything is clear. Like Glenn said, it's all transparent. There's no McKinsey in Bitcoin. McKinsey doesn't get

meetings with the CEO of Bitcoin and that's important. It's gonna become more and more important as these non-nation state actors, these faceless groups try and take over policy all over the world as people try and become more free and break from the shackles that they're in. So just think about that. When someone tells you or you think to yourself, Trudeau's corrupt, that's not really the whole story. There's a lot more going on and it deserves your attention just as much as something

like Kearney being appointed with 0.03% of all Canadians voting for or whatever the fuck that number was. Bigger stuff going on. Hedge funds. Can't, you can't, it's crazy Len, absolutely insane. Well look at the net worth of a lot of people that are involved and it's gone up in the past five years, gone up substantially. I'm not going to name names. I'm not going to say numbers, but just go do some research. And how does it happen? How does somebody on a public service salary working as an MP, cabinet minister, or higher up

get to be so fucking rich? Yeah. I don't know. Well, it's definitely not like, you know, turning Pokemon cards. Like, they're not getting lucky opening booster packs. I'll tell you that. You know, the thing is, and then they're not selling diet plans and workout regimens, are they?

And people out there, they're just waking up, going to the job, coming back home, having people with family, doing shit like that. This is their daily life. And then, the renter and repeat, they don't have time to do other things, maximize their wealth, because they don't have the contacts, they're fucking busy just being fee at slave laborers. And then, over time, they just continually get pushed

behind the eight ball, because their salary isn't going up to the same rate that the currency is being devalued. And then you have this new crop of individuals, young Canadians, that they have no chance of getting anything and they'll probably want to move out to a different country where they will have a chance. So you have this brain drain and so forth and we have to replace that with people from outside of Canada which you know we should be doing to a degree, but sometimes they do it too much like that in the past few years when now we have hospitals that are fucking busy, streets that are busy, schools are full. You know what you you know what to do like we say it buy your Bitcoin make plans and execute it. There's nothing

it's very simple right it's very simple, right? It's very fucking simple Like I I'm doing my part. I hope everybody's doing there Yeah, we got it. We got it coming on the show in a few weeks to talk about a wallet. That's in development That's gonna make this stuff even easier. I won't spoil that but some of the stuff I've seen has been absolutely nuts and With respect to the Carney getting elected. he's going to pick his cabinet. Did you watch? What did you think about it? The cabinet's sort of coming into shape now.

What do you think about this? The cabinet's going to be the exact same. It's crazy. Well, there's a reason for that. Disgraced former cabinet members being called back to service, right? Well, Mendocino's case. He's not being a cabinet. He's being a chief of staff. There's a difference. Called back to service. Not being a cabinet member, but being called back to service.

He was taken. He was the fall guy for something. And so they had to give him something as a result. And this is it. So if you really look into it, no, 100%. He was the fall guy. No, no. But the favor on the back end, you think that was for sure.

They had to give him maybe an ambassador for somewhere, but he maybe didn the back end you think that was for sure. They had to give him Maybe an ambassador for somewhere, but he maybe didn't want it So they give him this and here you are So this is this what it is, but the cabinet is gonna be the exact same There's I can't see them changing the cabinet because they're gonna go into an election They can't not go into election two reasons. They have to get into election right away Number one Carney doesn't have a seat in the House of Commons so being the Prime Minister without having a seat in the House of Commons won't drive in today's world. And we can't do that.

Guy in rumble telling us to become the 51st. Listen, I don't know how this country would vote if there was referendum, but I think it would be a lot closer than the pull the liquor off the shelves crowd likes to think. So Carney is going to have to run right away because he doesn't have a seat. And number two, there is the honeymoon period of him getting all this hoopla for first get. So he's going to have to capitalize on it. And by doing so, calling election soon makes sense. Now, you're not going to have these cabinet ministers learn a whole or be briefed on a whole new portfolio while at the same time fighting an election.

It just doesn't make sense. You're going to have a lot of them just be status quo. That's the way I'm predicting it is going to be everybody pretty much the same things, not much moving around of the chairs and the Titanic. And then here we go. Let's see what happens. And so we even have people coming back in my neck of the woods. Anita Anand said she was not going to run. And then she's changed her mind maybe two weeks ago and says she's now running. It's not a writing on a wall. Maybe she has an opportunity to run again. Oh by the way she's five months away from six months away from getting the pension too that's just a side note. A single win would get her to that point. So yeah it's very interesting

to see all this play out and Chudo disappearing and a lot of people are like somebody who's saying it gonna have the memory hole of a lot of people are like somebody who's saying it is gonna have the memory hole of a lot of Trudeau's it was Umdust was saying that and it's gonna be interesting to see how a lot of this plays out because he's been in power for nine years it's a long time and a lot's been done under his power under his watch. I'm just finding out people are uh, people's mothers in the chat are asking if I'm a Trump or a listen. I'm not, I wouldn't call myself a Trumper.

I would say that he was a superior candidate in the elections in which he ran, including the one he lost. So if that makes me a Trumper, then yeah. Okay, so let's talk about Carney. You watched his speech, right? Little bit, I didn't watch it a lot. I really just skipped through here. Anti-Trump a lot I really just anti-Trump speech whole thing was anti-Trump we can't let Trump win we can't let the United States

bully us we can't do this that blah blah blah this is a gift to liberals I don't know if they'll be able to write it to an election victory but I am NOT counting them out Paulie market hasn't met like 35 or 36 percent pretty high so you know you think the NDP would be in a position they would want to do a coalition government after the election? Would they want to prop up? Oh, do you think the greens have also? I don't think there's going to be an election until the fall.

I truly and honestly believe that. So how could, how could it? You tell me, you're the historian and this is one of the places we disagree the most is on this like, and you're right a lot of the time, so I don't want to discredit you, but I think that there's clearly here a change in what the established rules and order look like all over the world. And it's happening in democratic nations. And so this thing that like I keep on hearing and you're not as steadfast in it and as sort

of pointed in your views as some people, but this idea that he needs to find a seat and like has to call an election. And like, I really think that's just not going to happen. I think, I think things are going to get worse and worse and they're going to make this Trump monster into as big a Leviathan Godzilla beast as they can and try and ride it to a victory. So will there... I think it's going to take...

It's going to take... He's not going to do it for five months or maybe then they do it in the summer and hope for low turnout. I don't know. Like they could... Will they have the House of Commons resume later this month? Yeah. Then what's your prediction?

What happens after that? Like what... I think... You know what? I'll tell you what I think, okay? I think that what's gonna happen, and like you can tell me if this is within the rules or the order, you know, something you expect to see or expect to be allowed, but I'm gonna preface this

with a few things, okay? Pierre Poliev is a zero out of 10 politician. He's completely unproven. He's only about TikTok videos and soundbites, has no coherent policy positions that he's able to articulate. There might be some documented conservative ones, but he's not able to articulate them any, any place that he's ever been asked and he's been running

against the weakest party and candidate in probably the country's history. That's number one. Number two, Carney. Ignatiev. Yeah, but he didn't, but he's not, Ignatiev was not an incumbent. That's number one. Number two, Carney. Matty. Yeah. But he didn't, but he's not, Ignatiev was not an incumbent. So I shouldn't say the weakest candidate. He's running as the weakest incumbent ever in Trudeau or he was basically for the campaign against them.

Yeah. Okay. But not until now was he incumbent. Like, yeah. So, so now he's going to run into Carney and Carney for his weaknesses, is pretty good in front of a camera, although I will admit rather uninspiring. But he's a lot deeper on some of this stuff than Poliev is. And Poliev's camp and his advisors and that party, they just, they haven't changed their

approach at all in the last two months It's axe attacks just like Justin This that the other strategy that's been working up until then been working against right? So you're not gonna change like the winning strategy all that, you know, that's not run the ball And we're passing for fucking thousand of yards. Hold on a minute. Why has it been a winning strategy? What about that strategy tells you it's a winning strategy? Because up until recently, a lot of the momentum was behind the conservative people. You've been saying on this show that anybody could have run against Trudeau. His time was just up. So I don't think that that

strategy has been a winning strategy necessarily. What I think is that he could have said anything and been ahead in the polls against Trudeau, but that's changed now. And I think is that he could have said anything and been ahead in the polls against Trudeau, but that's changed now. And I don't see his party making any shifts. Now I admit that maybe his party is saving some bullets for when there's actually a candidate that's been voted in that they have to run against. And that's happened now. But I think that Carney in a debate setting, in a QP setting, in a media setting,

with the entire establishment media in favor of his victory and continued liberal rule, like, I don't think, I don't think Paulia is ready for it, honestly. Go take this back because you're going in a direction, but I want you to address something that hasn't been addressed. How did they have, how did they sit in the House of Commons? Yeah, and avoid a non confidence vote all the end. He's not gonna they're gonna pop them up I think they're gonna pop them up. So they're gonna and now how do you have? This is this looks really fucking well, this is what I mean

They can't even have rules here, but I don't know what though. I don't know what the answer is You don't have to have a prime minister. You don't have to have a prime minister you don't have to have a prime minister that's you don't have to have the leader there it could be somebody else because quite often the prime minister is doing stuff outside Ottawa and they have somebody else representing the house leader whatever and then so you'll have that if the prime minister is just doesn't have a seat in House of Commons but you you can't, it looks really bad. And that's going to be low hanging fruit for the conservatives. They say, look at this fucking guy.

He's not even an elected guy and he's the prime minister, unelected prime minister. This would resonate amongst people. They can't wait. They have to fucking it. There's two reasons why they have to do it. As I said, number one, he's on, he's not holding a seat. It looks fucking bad.

Yeah. And the second thing is it's a honeymoon period. You got to fucking take advantage while it's here. A lot of indication shows that the liberals, they've made massive gains. It's almost like the came out of nowhere type of situation. It's like the Buffalo Bills against Houston Oilers back in 1992. Or the Buffalo Bills came back.

Remember the largest comeback ever. The Bills had never won a Super Bowl, so it didn't work out for them. They didn't know,. Remember, the largest comeback ever. The Bills had never won a Super Bowl, so it didn't work out for them. Didn't know, but it was the largest comeback ever. It was down by 30 points at the half. They have to do it now. And waiting any time just puts them in a position where they could potentially get screwed.

They're gonna just burn away this opportunity of having massive gains. It just seems like they have to do it now. The chat is split. The chat is split on your... I don't give a shit what the chat says. this opportunity of having massive gains. It just seems like they have to do it now. Take their lump. The chat is split, the chat is split on your. I don't give a shit what the chat says. The chat is the chat, I don't give a fuck what they say. Some hold keys, some don't.

I do what I do and I don't give a fuck. So they gotta do it and then they gotta take their lumps. If they finish second, so be it. If they finish first, so be it. But at least. It's party stay if they don't win. It depends how strong it is. If you asked me two months ago, I was like, how the fuck could this guy get more than 70 seats? How could this guy get more than 30 seats? But it's possible he could get way more

than 70 seats. It's quite possible. And I'm sure they're gonna, they're gonna, let's break this down even further. Out East, the liberals aren't going to be all that strong. Maybe they'll get half at that. Maybe, right? Because that carbon tax really hurt them in certain areas of out East. So it's gonna be hard for them to really make gains. Quebec, they're gonna get slaughtered. Absolutely slaughtered. There's no way. Carney doesn't speak French well enough. There's no conservative seats there, right? Because there never went. So I'm giving it all or mostly to the Bloc. If the NDP ran a fucking candidate that was better, they would have been the national choice, the national party choice in Quebec, but there's a vacuum there.

So the Bloc is going to pick up the majority of the seats. Okay, Ontario, man oh man, if anything, I'm going to lean towards liberal. I can't believe I'm saying that. Same. And then so Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta, shut out. Liberals are going to get fucking shut out. And then BC, they'll get their fair share. So what does this all equate to? Maybe 100? How could they form government? Like 130 from what I'm seeing. They're going shut on those three provinces out east not much Quebec nada So they're gonna get the majority of seats from Ontario and BC. Is that enough to form government?

I don't know. I don't think so Pierre Pierre I think his camp realizes he's not that good a politician and that he may have already hit his ceiling in terms of Like, you know, camera competence. And the reason I say that is because they spent six months having the guy add 20 pounds of muscle and take his glasses off. So like, I think that- He was doing an image change. Yeah, because, because I just don't think he, yeah, I think he's like capped out on

the sort of intellectual side, which, you know, you can say it's good or bad or, you know, whatever Carney is or isn't. The thing that's interesting I want to talk about a bit is Carney's wife. Since Carney is still, I think, a private citizen, right? Can I say these things? I don't know. I guess I'll find out. Mark, can you call it?

Is this a Emmanuel Macron type situation? No, his wife's not being accused of having a horn. But she is, I think actually the more radical of the two of them. And I think the more dangerous of the two of them, you know, Sophie Trudeau, whether you liked her, didn't like her, Harper's wife, you know, I don't even know her name, I don't know, but they're background figures. I didn't hear much about Sophie Trudeau. Sophie Trudeau is trying to sell a book on how to have a good divorce now or something. Great. That's fine. You want to capitalize on that?

She was so neutral in her position. Yeah. Tell me how much you enjoyed your weekend away with Idris Elba or whatever that is. Cool. No problem. But this lady, Len, this lady has an agenda. Works for Eurasia Group, huge into climate initiatives, like almost nonstop in the climate initiatives. Like that's like the only thing she cares about. I don't know. I'll give you some examples of stuff she does. She's a senior advisor at Eurasia, their main focus, climate sustainability, advisor

She's a senior advisor at Eurasia, their main focus, climate sustainability. Advisor at Beyond Net Zero and Helios Climate, green economic transitions. Advisor, TechMet, TerraMera, technology metals, soil carbon. Trustee at Shell and Client Earth, energy access and environmental law. Board member at Save the Children. I guarantee they're not doing much of that. Development, sustainable energy, the focus area there. Former executive director at Pi Capital and the VP in, uh, Canada, Canadian operations, and that's climate policy and public discourse as an interest. For that organization.

There's really, I mean, you could look at her profile here and, you know, you said it kind of under your breath. There's an ongoing effort to scrub this data but thankfully archive.is does not forget. Pretty crazy like Diana Fox Carney has a strong academic foundation with degrees from Oxford and Pennsylvania but does not hold a current academic position. Her work with think tanks, her work with think tanks though does have academic like research involved including in climate policy. She's sort of infamous in the UK for penning an article or tweeting that she

was having trouble finding a place because she wasn't able to afford one even though she was making I think 60,000 pounds a month as a living allowance. Yeah. From Carney being the governor. Um, let's mention what she was getting paid for this other stuff. So like when you, when you talk about, when you talk about power couples, again, like there's a, it's hard for me to imagine there's not a concerted effort by the media to not talk about this, because if this was anyone else,

right, Melania Trump can't wear a pantsuit that's all white without being called a Nazi or a racist. And this lady is as extreme as they come in her viewpoints. Whether they are correct or not is a totally separate discussion, but it bears repeating here that the media is ignoring that these two people are as inside, connected, McKinsey types as you can ever get. And it's just not being discussed. So whenever someone tells you that Mark Carney is the guy who's like really the extremist,

I honestly think it's his wife who's the extremist. And I want to know more about her and I want to see her in a public setting speaking and I want to see what she's like because I guess I'd guess Len that she is driving a lot of the things that Mark Carney thinks talks about focuses on at this point. They're an older couple. Um, you know, I guess when they're not hanging out with Gislaine in a field, maybe they're talking about ways to...

Maybe that's what she has. ...shut the Alberta oil industry. I don't know. But like, clearly here there is something to this. And I think that this lady's really flying under the radar in a way that shouldn't, like no competent media establishment would ever allow, but they seem to be allowing it here. I mean, obviously, of course, right? Liberal media, Rosie Barton has never read an article on Diana

Fox Carney that she didn't like. So yeah. Um, I hope Pierre brings it up honestly, because his wife came under attack in the past, right? For her connections to his office and how she got a job because he was an MP. Well, what about all this? You know, what about all this? Yeah.

And all caps in the chat. What about Biden's son? Like this is, this is the same. It's in the same vein. Meanwhile, meanwhile, meanwhile, O'Nada, um, Pauliev or whatever. I think her name is O'Nada. Pauliev can't, can't have a job in an MP's office. Like they get, the double standard is ridiculous,

but this is one of the reasons that I think it's possible Carney wins the general election, honestly. Let's go back. Now, are they gonna do well out east? No. Okay, are they gonna do well in Quebec? No. Are they gonna do well in Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta?

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know about Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta for sure no, but like that's, that's a given. Shut out. What, what, what are the swing jurisdictions in Canada? Like you would know this better than me, but this is what I know. 905?

Okay, tell me. 905 is a huge. 905 really? Wow. Okay. For sure. Yeah. it could swing either way and that's a lot of seats maybe Montreal I'm not sure about that I'm just now talking shit at this particular moment but I'd for sure know the 905 it's a

good leader so I'm not sure on saying in the chat all caps and Nate both saying that it's gonna be shut out yeah I'm we fucking shut these guys have no way of winning five blue giving the election results. Yeah, I think there's people might be blue might be red. Yeah, I don't know pundits. So pundits competent pundits, I think are saying that there's a lot of like Trudeau Ford voters and I can't imagine that. I don't know how that person lives day to day.

No. I can't imagine that. I don't know how that person lives day to day. No, well, historically, it's always been if you had PC in Ontario, then you'd be voting liberal federally in Ontario. It's always been like it's a- It's interesting. I don't know if that still stands right now, but it used to be in the past. So to go with all this, now, if the liberals somehow even get close to like, it's gonna be minority government either way for conservatives or liberals, Pierre Poliev I think is gone.

I think Poliev has to come up with a majority government. It's gotta be, it's gotta be beating your the block the green of I've already said before anything even started they're gonna want to go ahead and form a coalition government so there that's one or two seats not a lot but there you go you'll be able to add that the NDP they they're gonna prop up everything after next election they're not gonna want to go to another election so they'll prop up whatever the fuck they that comes to order yeah you can prop this shit they just because they'll be a party without a leader at

that point. So then they just don't have the appetite for or the finances even to go ahead. Then it goes to the block. The block is gonna have a big say. They're not gonna play ball with conservatives because of the pipeline, right? Seems to be the case. So who are they most likely to be friendly with? The Liberal Party, I would say. That's always been the case. Yeah, that's always been the case. Well, they've been... No, I'm not saying they've always cooperated, but they've always been the more likely bedfellow, I think, right? That's fair. I don't know. So like I'm looking at this. Yeah, okay. Okay

Historically if they want to go back to the Genesis, they were a splinter group from both block and liberal. Sorry from both Progressive conservatives and liberals that's what with the party formed and was the combination of the two So I still think that there's there's still some hatred towards liberals and some hatred towards the conservatives but if they're gonna If they're gonna talk turkey with somebody i think they'll probably talk turkey more to liberals and that that means that it's quite likely or there's a likelihood we'd have a liberal government so then harney would be prime minister again propped up by three parties and you'll have then poliev has to leave he i can't see him sticking around if he loses that. He's been given this on a fucking platter.

If he can't do this, just, but who's next? I think he's gonna get taken, that's a good question. Who, and this is, I said this to my in-laws the other day. They're both like liberal sort of CBC enjoyers. I don't hold that against them. It's hard to get into new media at their age. But the Canadian political scene is lacking in talent in a way that I don't think it's ever lacking talent.

Maybe it's just because I'm paying more attention now as I'm getting a little older and have a little more skin in the game, but there's like no competent politicians and it actually shows there's no competent politicians because look at the speaker list for the liberal convention, Trudeau and Kretschen. Kretschen's a thousand years old. If that guy was any older, they'd be pulling him out for fossil fuels, man. What the fuck is going on? I like you. Ninety one years old.

I like him, Len, but no one's arguing whether the guy was a great prime minister. And I think he's a good man. But the idea that that's where you have to go for the convention. Like, it's not great. I don't think. Right. Who else could they bring up? This is my point. Who are they, who are they going to?

I don't know. I have no idea. All the previous, like if you had to go, the prominent people, freelance, well, she's there running. Yeah. Uh, more or no, he basically comes tied with like, that's a guy. If I was a conservative, if I like that's a guy if I was Bob Rae if I was a baby, I'd be trying to get Bill Morneau. I

Don't think he wants anything to do the politics. I don't think he has either but I'd be going for him That's a guy who I would I would you know, try and make an offer to No else is there I don't I'm trying to think of like Like, you know who would have been a good one if he didn't fucking tank his whole career over the penguins? Is Balsillie, another guy who would have been probably a good politician around this time in his life, right? He's probably 60 years old or so now and just whiffed for five years. You know who was good? And I thought she was good on her, is Candice Berman or whatever her name was. Yeah The lady that was their previous to poliev. Yeah She was like I thought like she was able to talk really well enough to comments and really just fucking hammered up some certain points

It's too bad. She was there temporarily and left shortly thereafter. I maybe she would have been a good one I don't I don't know what she speaks French. Maybe she's I had fucking no clue other Canadian Sort of personalities they can run for the conservatives. Yeah boomer in the chat saying Chris Hatfield, but he's not gonna run for the conservatives Did liberals have an astronaut in there who the heck is it? I don't know Is Roberto Bond are an MP? I don't think she is No, the liberals have a and he's a minister. Is he he not? Oh, I don't know. That he tried running twice or three times to be leader and failed every time. Forget his name. Anyways. Whatever. Mark Garnier. Yeah, that's yeah. Ricky. Ricky from the trailer

of Perk Boys. Let's get him. He's the fucking mid. I really do. I really do want to know. Like if you guys, Mark Garnier. Yeah, not Garnier. Garnier. I really do want to know like if you guys mark aren't mark Garno Yeah, not crying yet. I know I really do want to know if you're like in the chat and leave a comment or something On the video or on Twitter. I don't care where I really don't know who the conservatives could run if Paulie of loses Now Ford Fucking he can do it. Don't folk could do it. I think yeah, I think he can do it. Doeful could do it, I think. Yeah.

I think he could do it. My other thought is like, you can't really go into the party. Like probably the second most visible person is Lantzman and she's, you know, not, she's, but she's not leadership material. I don't think. I mean, what do I know? I'm just a guy in his basement, but having followed this stuff and I think she's good on her like she's very good with she's that's not the problem It's just there's a there's a missing element there

That's hard to identify if it was easy to identify I would be able to pin down the next leader, right? Doug Ford, I'm gonna stand by that one. That's that's the one and I'll say little inside baseball for you You know what? I look forward staff calls them No pdf little inside baseball for you. You know what Doug Ford staff calls him? No. PDF. Premier Doug Ford. What does the P staff for? Premier Doug Ford. Oh. Yeah they call him PDF. There you go. So you guys can take that with you. So little alpha here on the CBP. You've learned so much that you learned that McKinsey runs a fund. You learned that Mark Carney's wife is a weather extremist and you've learned that Doug Ford's staff calls him PDF.

There you go. So Doug Ford running again provincially, I don't think it's going to happen. Can you imagine? Like Empire, dynasty, unless Mikey Ford is ready to take over. I prefer Randy. Randy's the guy I could love to see go in there, but Randy Ford, I'm talking about Randy from the pillar park boys. Uh, Doug Ford running.

I think that's a possibility federally, especially if there's like an opening. Yeah. Yeah. And he can always say, look, I ran. And he's still pretty young. He's in his fifties, right? So, yeah, yeah. I don't know how his French is.

Maybe his French is pathetic. I don't know. Maybe, but that's something he'd probably have to work on. I would kill your Doug, speak broken French in a debate. That would be so good. That would be so good. He has time to rectify that, right? He's got a majority government, so it's not like he's there every day trying to,

he could pot off a lot of the shit to his folks, to his people, and he could start learning French on the side. So who knows? like he's there every day trying to he could put off a lot of the shit to his folks to his people and he could start learning French in the side. So who knows? Maybe he's prepping. I don't know. I don't know. That's a good pick, though. Good pick. We'll just go with one last story, Joy, before we call this quick. That was a good discussion. We hardly ever on the Canadian side get one heavy story.

That was like 40 minutes we did on Carney and liberal slash political landscape here. I enjoyed that. We'll stay on topic though. We'll stay on topic because this is a Justin Trudeau story. And remember, he's still prime minister and he came out this past week saying that the Canada is partnering with something called GAVI. GAVI, G-A-V-Y. And I did some searching for it, I never heard of it before. Apparently it's the Vaccine Alliance. It's a health partnership that supports the immunization access in 57 low and middle income countries. And so they work with public and private partners, they provide new and underused vaccines to children

living in some of the world's most vulnerable and marginalized communities. So to date, Canada has provided, at least before last week, Canada provided more than 1.6 billion in core funding to Gavi. 1.6 billion. That's before last week. Is that a lot? Is that a lot? I don't know.

Let's think about it. It's up to you to decide. So they said that they're now gonna move forward and they're gonna provide 500 Canada is gonna assist with providing 500 million more kids with vaccines. 500 million kids with vaccines and yeah and the question is what's the cost for this? Like I understand you know having kids vaccinated is a big thing. But you know, we have 10 cities, we have infrastructure crumbling, we have all this shit. And then

like, I don't know, I see this and it's like, think of 500 million vaccines. Like it just cost it out. Even with economy of scale. If it's a dollar vaccine, let's say, like it's a lot of money, you know, how much does it cost for the storage and all the kids? Yes. Yeah. Disposal it to actually plunge it, the needle into the plunger into your like everything has a cost.

What is going to be that car? Is it going to be several billion? I don't know. Like what's Canada's portion? I don't have a fucking clue, but I see this kind of stuff. It's like this is Just like the last big announcement from Justin Trudeau. I think this is just it just Perfectly ties a bow for his tenuous prime minister. Yeah agreed. It's a tough way to go out

Well on here he's not gonna be prime minister. No, neither is Jordan Peterson. Listen, you guys are dreaming with some of these names. I love the enthusiasm, but there's just zero chance that any... Have you heard Drape speak lately or no? Yeah, a little bit. Why? My god, he sounds like, and he is, he sounds so old. He needs his, like in his podcast, he needs his sons to like really guide him through because he's not able to Complete a thought sometimes or at least start a thought You just kind of it's like watching a kid skate where you got to push him And that's what it's like over there and it's that the time is undefeated man comes for everybody

Yeah, you got to take care of yourself. But uh, fuck that guy like he had stories, but it has still stories to ending but Looks like it's on his last legs when I hear it hot So Paulie in the chat is saying I should run for PM, you know, it's funny and I listen I'm not a big wig or anything, but I've considered running for like public office in Hamilton in the past I won't say why I've considered it or like who asked me to consider it But the thing is like nowadays Len it feels like one of the reasons we're short on like competent people is because if you ever get to the point where someone is approaching you to run for public office, chances are you can make more impact and have more influence without all the headaches of politics by not entering

those types of races and doing something on your own. Doesn't it feel like that now? There's just so many other options for competent people to make an impact and have their voice heard and get a platform and all this stuff. Like that's what we're doing here. Yeah. And like you and me are not, you know, A-list celebrities, but fuck. I think I want to think about like the number of people we talk to on the show and the people who want to talk to us. Why would I ever get into politics?

I don't have anyone digging through my past. Don't have anyone asking me about old girlfriends or like, it's just, it's such a headache. And people now are realizing that. And the reason that it's a headache is because the media has no better way to spend their time because they can't become experts or even, you know, semi-competent on any of the topics that are important. So they just dig up drama for clicks. Just don't acknowledge the past. If somebody could bring up a picture. I wouldn't. I definitely would not if I ever got. Yeah, like if somebody could

bring up a picture of next to some lady that is associated with an island and then we never talk about it. Like. Then you don't have to worry about it. Just pass it. If that's a topic that is not discussed. If a picture comes up of you next to a child sex trafficker where you're clearly rolling balls in a field. Listen, I've been on Molly in a field and I will tell you that that picture is very close to what I would draw if you told me to draw somebody in their 50s on Molly in a field. That's how it would look. And, you know, you can say whatever you want about that.

It's good or bad. You should be able to do drugs. I don't care what you do. Okay. God knows I've done stuff. But the idea that it's just being ignored, you're right Len, is nuts to me. It's absolutely insane. It's crazy.

That's what anybody can do. Yeah. What are you talking about? Let's talk about the weather. Yeah, the weather is fantastic today. It's just. That's what anybody can do. Yeah. What are you talking about? Let's talk about the weather. Yeah, the weather is fantastic today. It's just totally fucking, just sidestep that. Have you heard about the Eurasia Group? They're doing great work when it comes to weather.

I can tell you stories. I really can. Anyway, let's fucking end it now. Come back Wednesday for a show with with nuclear recorder, Ryan McCloud. Yeah, should be dope. Until next time, take care of yourselves. And don't be a cock.