The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - How Can YOU Start Living an UNHYPNOTIZED LIFE w/ @TrueHeather | The CBP

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

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Friends and enemies, welcome back Canadian Bitcoiners podcast. A Wednesday night interview rip, True Heather is with me. She comes highly recommended. A few of my guests have talked to me about her in the background. Sly Goomba, Dave Bradley most recently. And I have to say, I was just talking to Len today at the office and I don't know much about Heather's silos of expertise. She is a hypnotist, she is a practitioner, a holistic individual.

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to meet you, I guess. This is your first time on the show. Like I said, you come highly recommended. Tell me a bit about yourself. Who is True Heather? Hi, Joey. Nice to meet you too. Thanks for having me. You know, it's so interesting because as you were saying how you probably got like a bit pushed back in your experience with spirituality because of being an atheist, it sounded like you were saying. And you know, it's so funny because as I was getting ready, just like in the bathroom today, right before this interview, I was thinking the thought that came to me was oh Maybe people like be our atheists because they don't have a word that they like to represent God Maybe You know like like there's like source design divine Spirit higher self like there's all these words for God

anyways, I'm not sure like what my idea of like higher self, like there's all these words for God. Anyways. I'm not sure like what my idea of like religion is, but I do know that, you know, like I think like a lot of guys, probably specifically males actually, Heather, if I had to guess, everyone goes through this phase where like the idea of, you know, for me, I was raised Catholic, going to church becomes annoying more than anything else. And then you're like, how do I get out of this? And you find yourself looking at videos like, you know, Hitchens and Sam Harris and these guys. And you're like, I'm not, I'm going to go tell my parents that I don't think none of this is any good. And like there's, okay, I get that. There's like, you know, coming of age value there, but I do wish that I had stayed in that community

a little longer and we can, we can get to that But I want to like know more well, yeah, go ahead Yeah, I mean I just think just on that last point is like That you know, it's kind of it some of those religions became like not evolving with the times And then people really went away from God, but we can get into that later Yeah, I mean, I don't know there's like I'm I'm a woman of many hats, so I can do many things. The main thing is I can kind of resolve like, or seriously improve any issue or condition. You know, being a hypnotherapist, like there's always an aspect to every illness, every condition, every behavior, every complex behavior, every

disease, like everything, there's always an aspect, an emotional, psychological aspect. Okay. Tell me, I have static on my mic here. I can hear it too. Oh, sure. I'm going to hold on. Let me see if I can figure this out. This is so annoying, by the way, having a board so close to your computer because everything is like touching all the time. Heather, you keep talking. You make a lot of sense. Keep talking. Sure. So we were just talking about this realm of mind. And sometimes what happens is that people often think that mind is like mental, like in the

sense of like, I've got to change my thinking, or I've got to somehow find a way to like control myself or be more motivated or have more progress, or like procrastinate less, when actually it's usually like an emotional, psychological or what I would call like a metaphysical issue. So this is maybe just getting into the depths of the depths, but from doing like over 8,000 hypnosis sessions, which has been my career for the last 13 years, even though I've evolved into coaching entrepreneurs and business people and practitioners and doing a lot of like Wendy Rhodes type of mindset coaching

I Really started to see how yeah sure there's an element of being in the mind that is Well, it's just we're all realistic. This is funny. I'll just take over the podcast a while. He's obviously having some technical difficulties. I didn't actually go on to the YouTube so I could see the chat, but I'm going to go there right now because I wanted to. My guess is that this is a live.

I'm going to go on and see who I can because this is live on YouTube, right? I just wanted to come to normal YouTube too so I could see who's in the chat. Ask me any questions. Maybe I could give a little bit of background about myself. I actually was just thinking about this today. I've been working at this co-working space. I guess Joey's having microphone problems for anybody tuning in. And I'll just tell you guys a little bit about myself because I think that's what he was gonna ask anyway. And it just so happens, I wrote a little bit of a bio

from this whole working space that I just started working out of. It's probably perfect for right now because basically I've been like a hypnotherapist and a hypnosis trainer for 13 years and you know helping people really create change from the inside. Lots of times I would say feeling better is an inside job or your business is personal Because everything that comes up in us is part of how we talk. And so, I would guide people through the emotional reactions and subconscious patterns that life brings up.

So they can move from surviving to tragic. And so it's like the way to it is through. So in, I basically pulled into this online in the early days. I had many things going on in my mind and couldn't go back because that's a great location for freedom. But also like went through the hell of the past five years. like all of your hard work and effort just ended up with a big tax bill or you didn't really like for me with my business, I didn't

really get just like, I was doing my little bio. That was incredible. Listen, that's a great debut by you because I could not figure out what the hell just happened to my mic, but I'm pretty sure there's like too many things going on like with power. Is it better now? It sounds better. Everyone in the chat says better. Okay.

So we're good. Okay. So you're talking about your bio. Great. Can you give me like the 10 second version and then we can continue, I hope? I feel like we got to give you a round of applause for this effort. I've never had to do that before and you just carried it for like probably a few minutes at least.

I mean, this is the thing, right? to do that before and you just carried it for like probably a few minutes at least. I mean this is the thing right? When you have a spiritual grounding everything just works out as it's meant to. That's very good. Very good. So okay, so tell me, you know what I want to know Heather from you? Looking at your Twitter feed and like listening to some of your shows, you are into something that I've had a keen interest in and I also, you know, I also dated pre apps and all these other things and you've been talking a lot about dating as a Bitcoiner in a fiat world and so this is this is an interesting topic to me because I have a brother-in-law who's single, my brother

is single and I hear some stories from them about not only like the quality of people they're meeting, and this is not a shot on women, but I don't have any of the opposite sex experience to draw on you. I'm sure it could fill that gap for me. I don't really think there's a lot of quality people in the dating world, not because they're not good people, but because the incentives are sort of structured in such a way that dating is now like this sort of fast and furious one week, two weeks at a time. If it's not perfect, I move on. I don't work at it situation or scenario. I'm curious.

Do you feel like that? What is it that first of all, what is it that made you start talking about this in the Bitcoin realm? Bitcoin and romance, by the way, hardly ever mentioned in the same sentence, but you seem to be doing it now. So what made you start talking about that? And maybe just tell me, like, what do you think? Like number one, there's just such a need for it. Oh, now I'm getting feedback. Okay, I'm going to go grab my headphones. Sorry, hold on. That's okay. I'll talk. So the reason that I find this interesting, honestly, is because when I think about my own dating experience,

I could not imagine being like a, like if you're gonna date somebody, you can't bail at the first sign of difficulty or friction because you just don't know each other that well the one you first meet. And if you meet somebody in a situation where you find that you're going to have a favorable outcome, then I think you owe it to the possibility of that outcome to see it through past the first bit of difficulty. But nowadays, it doesn't seem

like people are doing that. And so I'm just wondering, maybe all this stuff is like kind of floating around in my head. I haven't thought about this in a long time, but listening to you and reading your stuff, now I'm thinking about it. I want to know why you're talking about it. Yeah. So you're getting into all the weeds, which is really why I devoted a whole season to it. Because first of all, that's why I started doing it because it's a conversation that I think needs to happen. Had in Bitcoin,ers or Bitcoiners and just because there's so many great Boots that are single first of all So it's like and

relationships affect everything like and there's beliefs and like you said there's different values there's like limited mindsets that can happen. And it's funny because I just recorded with Sly Goomba and that's my next coming up episode and he's hilarious and a Bitcoiner that's dating, right? So yeah, there's been all of these layers like those time preference. And like you said, is it just a quick fix, go on an app, order a date, like a cheeseburger, because you're craving something. These are things that we explore,

but also that whole thing of finding someone with what's like-minded isn't just at the whim of the fiat high time preference and like hypnosis of like dopamine and instant gratification and all that like all of the same things that come into bitcoin come into bitcoin dating But I will say just like anything else, there's some limited thinking, you know? Because like when you started this podcast and you mind if I just like call you out on your break for a second? Go ahead. Do me a favor. Before you do it, when you put your AirPods on, it started using

your AirPods as a mic. You got to switch back to your Shur in the StreamYard settings. It probably did it automatically. This is so funny because we on this show almost never have this problem and we're absolutely just cruising here with all my problems. It doesn't want to use my microphone. Okay. All right. Well, let's keep going then. Yeah. I don't know. These guys in the chat, my chat is so picky about everything. There's no doubt about that. But I still have like a weird reverb even in the headphones. It's like I can hear myself. Oh, that's weird. Yeah. I don't know what to do about that.

Okay, so anyways, I'm gonna Call me out talk about the mind. Yeah, because you started the podcast music. Oh, my mouth is dry. I'm probably getting sick so that's It's sick like that Like it's like that's like pretty much like selfnosis. Plus if you keep drinking all that milk, you're for sure going to get sick. What is wrong with milk? Well, if your, if your, if your glands or your lymph

is like needing to detox, it's just going to slow it all down. So it's not bad. But if you feel like you might be getting sick, then for sure don't drink milk and say that you're probably going to get sick. Anyway, milk and say that you're probably going to get sick. Anyway. It's, you know, it's been interesting, like I was saying, when I think about romance and Bitcoin, which obviously I do not do that often, but it's been interesting over the years going to meetups,

a couple of conferences, talking to men and women on this program and just hearing their stories about like, they're either single or with somebody, right? Everyone's got that story. You're either one or the other. And in Bitcoin, the one thing that I've been sort of surprised not to hear is that I started dating somebody or got married before I found Bitcoin because most of us are like, you know, seven years in, I don't know how far you are in on your journey, but like I'm seven or eight years in. I met somebody before Bitcoin and before I had my time

preference aligned with, you know, where it should be and my monetary thoughts and these sorts of things, you know, my thoughts about the future. And then we ended up splitting because I couldn't get that other person on the same page. And I'm always surprised to hear that because I couldn't get that other person on the same page. And I'm always surprised to hear that because I think about the ways that I've changed since I found Bitcoin and I was with my wife already for a few years when I found Bitcoin. And you know, maybe it's because we were aligned on these things anyway and maybe what it means to be a Bitcoiner is not actually stacking Sats, but everything else.

And you know, stacking Sats is the last piece. You can reconcile that difference with somebody if they think Bitcoin is this dumb hobby, which honestly my wife probably may still think. I have no idea. But the other stuff that gets you to Bitcoin, that's the important thing. What do you think those other things are? What are the things that Bitcoiners should be looking for in a relationship? You're on the hunt, I suppose. Is that an offensive term on the hunt? I'm not sure, but...

I'm not on the hunt actually, but I do like to have the conversation about dating. And I mean, I was like married for 12 years, divorced for like 10 years. I did a bunch of dating. I'm like, you know, Gen X. So I love the conversation. And we've been talking to married Bitcoiners too, and like about, you know, what happened when they found Bitcoin after being married. So you're right. It's just a whole breadth of conversation. But what I think is that sometimes there's like a belief that somehow being in a relationship could like slow you down or stop you from sticking as much

or being as focused or whatever. And I think that, yeah, maybe if you didn't find like a teammate, like if you didn't find like a woman that's like, because like also finding the right woman can just lift you up and like exponential growth. It's sort of like doing hypnosis or like any sort of inner journey. It's like everything happens faster, bigger, better

when there's that unity and we're co-creating. So sometimes I think it's not so much about what they should look for, as much as like being open to Exactly what is going to help you get there? so sometimes people get really discouraged because of like past experiences and then they Create limitations in their mind about what? Like do you have any people like if you suggest a possibility

to someone they'll say, well no, I've proven that's not true. This has happened the same for me over and over and over. Is that a confidence thing you think? No, I think it's a misunderstanding of how life works thing. Yeah. Tell me more. Tell me more. Go into the other. Yeah. Because it's like if you're basing your belief of what's possible in the future based on the past, one, you don't understand how creation works.

And two, you don't understand like what every experience does to help you get there. So sometimes if people are stuck on certain aspect of past relationships, since we're using this as an example, it could pigeonhole them into an idea of like, what's possible or they haven't really processed what they were meant to see and learn from that for their own growth to get up to the next level to meet the next level chick. So okay, can we talk about what the next level chick should look like?

Because I'm really not sure. Like I said, I think I found a good partner. And it's funny, when I was a kid, okay, when I was in my 20s, what I used to hear from like my dad for example would always be you need to find someone who challenges you and you know sort of brings the best out in you and the older I get the more I realized that that was wrong. The more I realized that what I need is someone who you know complements my skills with their own and the challenge that I have to find is

actually one that's, you know, something that I'm passionate about, like, you know, my work or my podcast or my fitness or whatever. And the person on the other side of the relationship should be like someone who's encouraging you, someone who's there with you, a sidekick, a partner, as opposed to just someone who is reminding you that you can't do things a certain way and trying to protect you and things like that. And do I have that right you think or is there another kind of partner that people should be looking for? No, I just think that it's very personal because what you might want... Oh, I think it sounds better now.

Yeah, I think so too. I think, yeah, that's way better. That's good. Thanks for the tech tips, chat. I think that it's highly personal because what you needed and wanted is likely different than what someone else needs and wants. And it's very different, like when you're looking for a mate to have a family and have children than say for me, like I've had my child,

my child's 15. You know, where I'm going in this next phase of my life isn't the same as when I was building a family. So I think it's highly individual. And I think the benefit of being a Bitcoiner and going out into the world or like my friend Katie says in our episode to the marketplace like you said on the hunt. I love how married people talk about dating she says to the marketplace you say on the hunt. Listen that's probably like one of the nicest things you could say like I've called the Tinder realm a number of different names, meat market, overnight delivery.

There's a lot of things you could call it, but I don't think on the hunt is that bad. Well, it's just flawed because ideally you're not... Are you looking at the chat? The chat is complaining. Listen, I'm trying to figure out. Oh, because you turned it down. Like, oh, I see. It's just quiet or the reverb.

No, I don't hear any reverb. The echo is gone, but you are a little quiet. Let me switch my mic and see. Okay. And just switch it. Here we go. See if we can get it going. Test, test, test.

No, I still hear that in the background. Same. It's on my end though. The funny thing about StreamYard is that, and I tell my people this all the time, that you have good equipment, but you're fighting uphill against YouTube and against StreamYard every time you put a mic on your stream. Like, live is different. yard every time you put a mic on your stream. Like live is different because I always record on here too, but live makes it all different. Yeah, it's a little different. I think I might be able to boost your mic settings too. Let me see

if I can do it. Adjust settings for Heather. I'll just talk and you can test, test, test, testing, testing, testing. I hear you okay. So I- Okay, that's okay. Echo, but volume is better. I can hear the echo too, but it might just be how it is. Okay. So tell me then. I'll just go deeper and deeper.

The alpha, not the alpha, but like the ideal sort of partner. Where do you come down? As someone who's done it once, presumably you, I don't know, if you're, if you're dating or dating somebody now, then, you know, maybe you want to do it again. I don't know. What do you, what do you think? Well, I just think that we learn the most about ourselves

when we're in a relationship. So as much as there's a great time sometimes to pause, to get to know yourself, like sometimes people just move from one relationship to the next, or they're really codependent or they haven't, they don't have the space in there. I don't have two mics plugged in. I hear, I can hear you fine. So I don't know.

Like I hear myself louder because I have my own headphones up, but I hear you fine. I wouldn't, yeah. Like I can still hear my reefer. If it's too quiet, then I'll fix it after the fact. I'm not that worried about it anymore. Because I have my own headphones up, but I hear you fine. I wouldn't, yeah. Like I can still hear my reaper. If it's too quiet, then I'll fix it after the fact. I'm not that worried about it on the audio side. Okay. Yeah.

Cause it's kind of distracting. Yeah. Anyway, keep going. Um, so yeah. Um, it's, I think the most important thing is like interdependence. Cause like, it's good to depend on each other. It's just like if you're in a relationship and it's not conducive to you like learning about yourself and growing and then you know growing separate together that could cause some health problems and anger and resentment and those types of things in the future.

I think that's fair. I guess the next question, the next place I would go from there is how much time, again, like we're talking about fiat dating and I have heard so many stories of people who, like I said, hit a roadblock and decide this isn't't worth it. I'm gonna hop back on the apps, I'm gonna go back to the bar or whatever. How much is too much in terms of effort these days? For someone in their 20s who has, presumably had their tons of opportunity through the apps or through school or through work

or whatever to find somebody who they think, at least on the surface, they really click with. How much is too much work? Is it worth sort of putting some effort in and trying to get over those frictions to stay with someone who has potential, I guess? I hate to talk about people in that way, but I think that's a good way to put it.

Or do you just go backwards and say, yeah, I'd rather just start again, it's not worth the trouble? That's a good question. There's different factors that come into play with that because if you're looking to stay for the person to become like the version of them that you want, you're probably cooked. Like you have to either love the person as they are and decide that that's enough for you or leave in my opinion, because you can't hope that someone

is going to become a version of themselves that then you will want to stay with. So that's one factor. And then the other factor is, is that, you know, I'm for some reason when I'm thinking, I'm thinking these are all guys, like not girls. You can, like it's fine with me. You know, like I kind of feel like this is like a, but it is for both for men and women.

Like obviously both have to decide to like, cause I think if we're like it's same with dating. If you're putting in too much work or you're trying to fix something or you're trying so hard, then probably stop trying because that's probably putting so much pressure on something having to be done work or you're trying to fix something or you're trying so hard, then probably stop trying. Because that's probably putting so much pressure on something having to change. And like the only thing that's good under

pressure is diamonds. Like nothing blossoms under pressure. Nothing grows under pressure. Nothing, no one feels safe under pressure. No one comes home and relaxes and lets themselves be themselves under pressure. No one comes home and relaxes and lets themselves be themselves under pressure. And I think, and women, you know, as dating, like we can just tell when the guy can't chill, you know, like we're just like, like, then we, then

we end up choosing the one that's ignoring us because we're just so tired of these eager beavers, you know? So some, I guess, eh? That playing hard to get does work. I think if I look back at my own past, I would say that that's a good tactic. It might be the most effective tactic available to most guys. Well, it's not even hard to get. It's like secure, right? It's like being secure in your value. It's like being secure that you also trust life. Like this comes from, there's a practice called the three principles and it's mind, thought, and consciousness.

And the whole idea, these are principles, like how we live, how our mind works, how we, how we perceive our reality. And the whole thing about this is like, if you've got like no trust in life, bringing someone to you or help or like letting your relationship evolve naturally or that you're not broken and they're not broken

and there's nothing to fix. Like if you have no trust in life and you can't let life show you the way to things, then you're going to struggle way more. Your relationships are going to struggle way more and the people that you're with are not going to feel very loved. Where do I come down on this? Uh, this complex thought you just thought you just put out there? I do sympathize with this idea that people are not broken.

There's so much, again, I'm drawing on my own experience, I'm a little younger than you but we're basically the same demo. And I'm thinking back to when I was dating, there was no constant barrage of social media influencers, no constant barrage of dating apps. Even Twitter now is basically, you're always one swipe or one touch away from what's soft core in the best cases, hardcore, porn in the worst. And you just like your brain is constantly under attack from all sides about you're not good enough. You know, your dick's from all sides about you're not good enough

You know, your dick's not big enough. You're not muscular enough. You don't have enough money. You don't have enough whatever right and You know, we were fortunate not to grow up in that environment But for people now I can just imagine that the either problems it would give a young man or woman Maybe women even worse than guys, honestly Just because you'd constantly think like, oh my gosh, I have this little problem. And because you're your own worst critic, you find yourself looking at these things with a really, really critical eye when no one else even notices, right? And so that self-conscious voice will creep into your head and become louder and louder and louder until it's the only voice you hear. And then it doesn't just affect your

relationships, it affects your personal life. And one thing Heather that I do think, you know, although I am not spiritual per se, one thing I do think is that your vibe attracts your tribe. And you know, if that's your vibe, you're gonna find that you're very much alone out there a lot of the time. And you just, it just, it magnifies and it's a flywheel of negative thoughts, negative environment, negative outcomes, negative thoughts, negative environment, negative outcomes. And I don't think a lot of people understand that because when I think about what community means for a lot of people, community used to mean sports teams, you know, what I think

is like are typically called third places, right? You have your work, your school or whatever. And then the third place where you go to hang out and be you and grow as you. That third place now is Twitter for a lot of people or Instagram for a lot of people or like a parasocial relationship with like Chamath and David Sacks on All In or whatever. Right? Like you can't do that. And it's, I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's, you know, all this stuff together leads me to believe there is a need for a third place. and David Sacks on All In or whatever, right? Like you can't do that. And it's, I don't know where I'm going with this, but it's, you know, all this stuff together leads me to believe there is

a need for the things you're talking about. And, you know, maybe we can use this as a jumping off point to, I mean, you already taken a shot of me over my milk, so we may as well continue down this path. Your ideas around health and personal wellness and things like this. I have never been to a naturopath. I have never been to a holistic healer up until like two years ago. I thought Reiki was a Pokemon that maybe was around after I was into it. And now I'm kind of hearing about these things more and more. I'm seeing them on TV and I'll tell you that my wife went to a naturopath a few years ago and this naturopath actually helped her with the problem she was having that a traditional doctor couldn't seem to

figure out. And so I have a sympathetic ear for these things in a way that I didn't before. And I want to hear a little bit about what you've done and what you talk about and why this is important. Why Bitcoiners are always looking for alternatives. We are skeptical by design and we're always looking for alternatives. Why should people be looking to holistic medicine? I think is the term you would use.

Is there like a better term? I don't know. You'll tell me, but why should we be looking to that for our own physical wellbeing and mental wellbeing? Hmm. Great question. I mean, first of all, you're very lucky that you haven't had to seek any of those things out because that means you haven't had like a condition that you've had to heal yourself.

And so anyone who's had to heal something and doesn't want to just suppress it further into the organs to be stored and become a bigger disease inside is going to find holistic medicine and holistic practice. Because as soon as somebody starts a healing journey and is looking for answers in allopathic medicine, they quickly realize that that's not a mechanism of healing, it's just a mechanism of suppressing symptoms. And then when you're really awakened in that sense to the fiat system of health, and you realize how many treatments that are available in our kitchen.

Number one being how we eat, heal the body. And not only that, like I had a client today and she was, she took her daughter to the doctor and the doc, she had eczema. And I mean, that's a, that's one of the biggest things that they just suppress. But then the doctor said, Oh, you're just going to have to live with this condition for the rest

of your life. And that, like, I have unhypnotized people from that more times than you can imagine, because first of all, people need to believe that they can heal. And I mean, come on, like millions, like, I don't know millions, but like I healed my eczema like eczema is healable. Like that's just one example, but we could get into any disease and any illness and use

this framework too. Because if you start to think about health as like a fiat versus a decentralized system, then you start to see that there are so many avenues that a person can take to heal and that we really are holistic. Because another error of allopathic medicine is that they treat the body separate. So you have breast cancer, they cut your breasts off. And then what? Like you're not gonna get any more cancer, maybe. But the thing is you didn't really get the message and the raise up that you get

that you can from healing that condition. Like sure, sometimes things are too far along and sometimes that's just someone's life path. But generally speaking, to me, like a Bitcoiner, like a Bitcoiner that is like skeptical of the system of actually healing things in the body rather than suppressing symptoms is kind

of suspect. Right? I think that's true. I'm thinking about, it's funny, the decentralized health thing is, it is maybe a little counterintuitive until you have an injury. I've had a few sports injuries over the years. I've had a knee reconstruction, Achilles tear, stuff like that. And you realize during the rehab process that actually the issue

you had was not in your Achilles tendon. It was not in your knee. It was in your hip. It was in your back. It was in your gait, your walk or whatever. And then to your earlier point, God, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I'm like, you know, figuring this out here on the air. As you, as you realize why your back is tight, you know, it's not tight because you lift weights. It might be tight because you're not sleeping that well. And why are you not sleeping that well? Why are you? Yeah. Or you have like a bunch of fear that you're holding onto and that you haven't processed. Interesting. Fear in the back. That's the thing.

Fear in the back? Well, kidneys, fear is in the kidneys. Like there's so many, cause I'm always going psycho, spiritual or metaphysical because like that's the messages that so many people don't get from their pain and from their problems. And like, there's a lot of things, you know, like I think I put my 108 modalities and cleanses that I did

on X, I did a post about it. So like I did almost every type of like fast cleanse treatment that you could think of, but really what is usually the missing piece, especially if something is recurring. Like if you have like gut issues, like most people do like in general, then you could find a diet and some supplements or do some gut testing, find out the problem, eat to heal that part of your gut. I did that before. And it's like, yeah,

the problem will go away. It's just sometimes there's some problems that just don't go away. And then that's when they like call and say, you know, I just like, I don't know, I was thinking, maybe I should try hypnosis. I just like tried everything, you know, but really. Then they just say I wish I tried this first because every problem has like a psycho-emotional connection. So when you say hypnosis, you know, people in this chat, at least I thought people in this chat would not know what that means, but it seems like people actually do. And I'm looking at the Twitter comments too. I don't know if you can see those, but there's like people telling me that I

should know more about this. When you say hypnosis, you don't mean in the traditional cartoony, you know, you're feeling very sleepy, but actually my understanding of this is now is that this sort of like a retraining of your mind to think and feel a certain way about a sensation or about an issue. Tell me more about this because I'm in the dark totally on this topic. Yeah, no problem. I mean, totally understandable. And no, that's kind of like a fiat definition of hypnosis because it would imply that like I would somehow go in and tell them how they're going to think or feel. And like sometimes I might do that after they've already seen it. So I'll give you an example. So the whole thing with hypnosis is that it is a kind of like, you know, because it's ultimately taking someone into a space of relaxation.

We could also call this the parasympathetic nervous system that most people know about because that's the rest and digest, it's a healing space. Because I mean, most of the people nowadays, especially people are so heightened, right? And they don't know how to relax their mind. They don't know how to go into the perceiving space. So it's a state of deep

relaxation. And so there's a couple of things that happen there. One, yeah, they can process and feel into things that are bothering them. They might even see more clearly what's bothering them. I mean, there's tons of questions that we can ask in that space, but instead of like me being in their mind reprogramming it, it's more about helping to release and let go of the beliefs and the thoughts and the programs that they took on that are keeping them sick or keeping them small or keeping them single even. Because there's a lot of little things that we took on over life that we don't realize are creating our reality. And another cool thing about the subconscious mind, which is what we have immediate access to in hypnosis, is that we can put the destination in the GPS. So the science of the subconscious mind is that what it sees, like the vision,

it will execute it. So most people are just executing their vision on default. Like it's a default vision. So it could be all twisted with things of like guilt or fear, or like, and they're just like imagining their reality without like really taking a brush and painting it and imagining it and envisioning it. So once that happens, then there's like just an automatic shift. Like the biggest thing people say after hypnosis, like after say a few days, a week, they're like, oh, or immediately they're like, oh, I just find myself doing that new habit I wanted to do. I just found myself, I stopped doing that because they got so clear in themselves what

they really wanted. Like they really wanted the weight loss over the extra cookies at night that were comforting them. They really wanted like the, the intentional relationship that was aligned with their values and what they want in the future, more attention fix or dopamine hit of dating. Can you give me an example of this visualization? I'm an athlete and one of the things I think about before games, intentionally or unintentionally you've Envisioned yourself succeeding right making big plays not making mistakes

Is this akin to what you're talking about or am I off base there? Oh Yeah, it's akin and the main thing is like if you're envisioning something outside of say hypnosis or just even the subconscious mind, like I use a lot of perceiving spaces that's not necessarily hypnosis, but say you're not in a relaxed state doing your visualization. Um, then there, it might be that there's like certain parts of your mind that don't believe

it's possible. So you're like trying to convince yourself of something instead of like dropping in, tuning into yourself, getting relaxed, and then envisioning it when the conscious mind or the guard at the gate isn't present. So, and then, can I tell you a story about this pool player?

Of course. Okay. Because this just happened recently and it's a really, I think it's funny because part of it is like, lots of people use visualization. Lots of people can imagine the goal and imagine themselves getting there, but they don't see what's getting in the way. So I went home and my friend, he has this private pool place and like their hardcore, like competitive pool team.

And I just like, I was like rolling in there at night with them to say hi, I was visiting and like, you know, we had a couple of drinks and stuff. And then one of the guys, he missed the, like an easy shot to the eight ball in the corner pocket. And I laughed just cause I was like, I could have made that. I thought you guys were like a great team here or something.

And he got like upset. And then the other teammates were like, Oh yeah, like this, he's got this problem. This is his handicap. Like he gets in his head and they're like, Heather, you're a hypnotist. Like help him, help him like solve this problem. And like, I ended up just like going to the side and like talking with him. And like, since then I get been getting texts like, he's been playing like a beast. He won this tournament. Like he's beating people that he never beat.

Now we have to get better with, like, it was just so funny. And like, that's a perfect example because he really did want to succeed. But the thing that was getting in the way was his negative self-talk and he didn't realize how important it was to succeed. And the thing that was getting in the way was his negative self-talk. And he didn't realize how important it was to stop doing that until I told him. How does one figure that out? Like, isn't it natural to have like doubts about your,

you know, your, I don't know, like athletic performances in my head anyway, it's an easy one. You know, I can think of all the times where you're like, okay, you got to, you, I mean't know, athletic performances, in my head anyway, it's an easy one. I can think of all the times where you're like, okay, you got it. I mean, part of the reason you prepare physically is because you have doubts that if you don't prepare, you'll be able to perform at the level you need. So when I think about that, the first thing I think is like, okay, this is a natural feeling. I'm not doing anything wrong here, but you're telling me that there's a way, maybe not a way for everybody, but there's like, there's like a way for people to tap into this part of their mind that's blocking them from performing at

their peak. How does someone know the difference between those two things? Like, how are you supposed to realize that? I don't know. You have to probably pay me to know it for you. Just kidding. Cause like, I mean, part of it is like, I literally spotted that in like one second.

But I mean, I've done like 8,000 sessions, but the important thing here is to not make a prescription of this because just because that's what his block was doesn't mean that's everyone's block, right? Like I just saw it so clearly in the moment. Oh, he just doesn't realize that his negative self-talk isn't being like humble or it's not, it's like actually affecting the outcome of his game because it's creating that reality. Like if you say every time you miss, oh, I always miss that one. You're creating a program for your neural pathway to always miss that one.

So for every person, it's like the first thing is just being very, just being really aware of the things that you're saying because your beliefs will just come out of your mouth. Like I would love to do like, I was thinking about doing a show and just talking to people and be like, oh, there's one, oh, there's one, oh, there's one. I'm afraid to keep talking now because I have been basically telling you everything I believe about love, romance and medicine for the last 45 minutes. And you're probably building me like a little client avatar to share with me. No, I mean, none of it's wrong. I gotta say after our hour, I think you might be kind of fucked up and

it might be time to get hypnotized. I, like, what, how does, there's, there's so many, so many barriers. Again, I'm speaking only for myself. So many barriers for someone like me to go from Western medicine, you used the term earlier, it starts with an A, I can't remember what the term is, but- Oh, allopathic. Allopathic.

Going from allopathic medicine to what I think most people would call, I don't know, traditional medicine or ancient medicine, these techniques, whether it's hypnosis or the holistic medicine, holistic healing, you know, even something like Reiki, you know, there's a spot for this for presumably everybody. And I'm curious, you know, you obviously do this for a living. Do you think that this is a complementary practice, this set of practices to Western medicine? Or do you think that Western medicine has this wrong? Oh, Western medicine has it totally wrong. Ah. Like it only, they only act like it's complimentary because if it gets too much power, plus, you know, generally speaking, people are paying out of it

from their own pocket. And it's just like, find me one pharmaceutical that cures a condition. Like it doesn't exist. It's not a cure. And like so many conditions, if not all, especially caught at a certain stage can be healed. But it's not even a misunderstanding

of how the body works. It's an intentional misunderstanding. It's like learning about finance in school. It's like learning investments in school. It's the same thing. So what is the rationale then for people, presumably, like I'm trying to play devil's advocate a little bit here, but I just don't have enough information to do it adequately, I don't think.

When I think about like what's going on in the number of kids on OZempic in the chat, someone's saying, or the number of kids on like ADHD meds or the number of kids on, I don't know, you name it, there's all sorts of childhood conditions now that just didn't exist or weren't recognized or on the sort of long tail weren't medicated for 20, 30 years ago that are medicated for so frequently now. Presumably parents, thinking again of myself here, if my daughter was ever diagnosed with these things, I would never medicate her under any circumstances. I would, you know, look for other alternatives.

There's got to be so many success stories from these things or from these ailments with your style of medicine. Why are they not being shared more broadly? It's mind boggling to me because I think about, like I said, my wife has done this, she swears by it. For her it was like bladder infections she was getting. And you know, she was getting them for all the time. And then she sees a holistic practitioner one time

and that's it. Natural path tells her what the problem is, fixes it in a month. And since then it's been nothing but smooth sailing. So these stories are shared widely. And I think there's more and more people who are realizing that medicine, especially after COVID is not all it's cracked up

or all it's made itself up to be. So where are these success stories? Why are more people not sharing them? Are they afraid to share them? Is there a stigma? What do you think about that? Well, first of all, like I'm really pleased that you're this conversation that you're capable of having.

Like I wasn't expecting this. I can do more than squat two plates. Okay, I'm a renaissance man here. Okay? I'm a Renaissance man here. I like it. I like it. You know this. You have a podcast. You have to be a mile wide on stuff.

I like this. Otherwise you're cooked. Yeah, you're really open to, yeah, this is good. This is good. And I mean, the question I would ask you in response to your question is why don't they talk more about Bitcoin? Yeah, that's good. Yeah.

I mean, there's some similarities. It's the exact same thing. Like these stories are everywhere. I mean, I have the blessing of living in this world of just where everything is possible. And we know that's true. Um, but it's like, it is everywhere, but it is actively suppressed and it is actively

misinformed, just like Bitcoin. Like I saw that Rachel Maddow talking about like baby babies, Bitcoin beanie babies. Richard Maddow is the worst person on TV. You know, and like it's the same, like they literally talk like every few months, there's something in the news or Hollywood or TV making hypnosis seem like a control technique or control mechanism.

And while we could go like into the dark hypnosis of things, but like really the dark hypnosis of things is like all mainstream media, all the blogs by moms paid for by mainstream media and the government and all of the- Oh my God, Mommy Bones catching a stray on CBP. That's a worst. That's not a nobody's bingo card. Okay, keep going, keep going. It's true though. They get the most shared because they're like, oh yeah,

you know, you're poor child. But the thing is, is that it's like a misinformation campaign, just like finance and investment. And ultimately to not have people see the truth. is, is that it's like a misinformation campaign, just like finance and investment. And, and ultimately to not have people see the truth, to not have people see that the government is causing inflation. You know, like just like the hospitals are causing,

you know, many, you know, many problems like trauma I've helped people through because of problems because of the medical system. And then they have to not only try to heal the problem that they got into this mess with suppressing and surgeries and stuff, but then they have to heal the anger and the grief that they have at the system for not having their best interest at heart. It's difficult to come out of that.

You know, it's painful. My wife and I just had a little one a little while ago and the number of things they want to do to a newborn baby is like mind-numbing. That's crazy. Yeah and so you know I'm gonna keep you a little longer than an hour because I fucked up my mic and then we you know we just got fucked up with the audio. I have time. There's a couple of the questions I want to ask you. And these are questions that I've considered over the last day or two, as I was thinking about talking to you. I will admit fully to the people listening and watching that they are selfish questions. They may not interest you and I don't care. If you don't like them, you can start your own show.

Heather and I both have one. It's not that hard to do. The thing I'm curious about from the hypnosis side of things is how did you learn this? That is this is this like a talent that is is acquired or is it natural? Is it nurtured like what is this thing that you guys are doing in this space? And how do how do people you know not that I want to like, you know start doing business on your corner But how does somebody learn or get into this? It's so off the beaten path.

And to your point earlier, actually, it's funny. You know, when I think about our ESP investments for my daughter and everyone wants me to do an RESP, I just think, I don't want to send her to a government school. And I don't think you can go to a quote unquote government school for any of the stuff you have learned. So how did you learn it? Like where did this stuff come from? Yeah, great question. Yes, it is like acquired, learned, nurtured, and there's somewhat of a

natural gift to it, I think too. So personally, I did take a course, like I initially took a course and, you know, had a huge awakening from it and things changed for me. But then actually I've been like, I've trained over, I've trained and certified over 300 practitioners. So I actually teach and train hypnotherapists. So anyone can learn, anyone can learn. I mean, it's actually very easy to hypnotize someone. Like I can literally hand you a script to read and you could hypnotize someone. Like it's very easy. The hardest part is like, like kind of the pre-hypnosis

or like, you know, like already, if you came to me for hypnosis, you would be very good at going into hypnosis because I've already prepped you. I'm just kidding. I remember consenting to that. Do we not live in a world of consent here? What's going on? Yeah, but it's not, it's just because like we already have a rapport.

Right. Okay. There's no sneaky tricks. Huh. Okay. It's just rapport, right? And then like having an understanding of like what the expectations are. Because it's actually, well, we see it all the time.

There's certain ways that it's easier to hypnotize someone, but anyone can learn to hypnotize someone. And I actually thought it would be really fun to do a show and just be like, the hypnosis in the media this week. Because it's like, hypnosis is everywhere. But the thing about it is it's like, hypnosis is everywhere. But the thing about it is like, it's sometimes easier. Like if someone's afraid, it's easier to like drop them into hypnosis.

If someone's in like a heightened state. And then lots of people will say, I can't get hypnotized. I went on stage. I don't think I'll be able to get a benefit from getting hypnotized. You know, like someone in the chat said, ravine. But actually everyone really can be, it's just like they don't want to be like vulnerable necessarily like on stage to do funny things in front of their work colleagues. So yeah, it's like, and it's something that's obviously growing. Like I have a sticky note on my, oh, I have a sticky note on my thing.

Oh, here we go. Here, let's see what it says. So it says actually 31.3% of 12 billion is the estimated USD hypnotherapy estimated growth from 2024 to 2030. So like 31% of 12 billion. And you know, the reason for this is because we are at a all time high of people with anxiety and conditions, um, psychological conditions, psychological imbalance. But isn't everything a psychological condition, right? Like you think that like, you know,

you have a gut problem, it's related to your psychological, yeah, I think there's some truth to that for sure. Yeah, but I'm talking about like acutely in the sense or like chronically in the sense of like anxiety and depression, like the stuff that's like making people unable to like live well and happily and fulfilled. And we could argue, you know, Fiat's a major cause of this condition. You know, we could argue like our whole society is a cause of this condition, but it's like more than ever people need to find peace within. And it's like you said, that third thing becomes online and very disconnected from reality. And then like you said, if there's like these sort of, well, I think there's expect unrealistic expectations, but I also think that people are getting triggered and people are feeling things. And I mean, one of the major things

I do still in my practice, even from like high level, like company leaders is like the fear of like that comes from the media. Like people are so angry about the world and they're so angry at each other and they're so afraid for the future for their children. And to me, that's just a result of watching mainstream media and getting in these rabbit, getting in these bubbles in social media where people just keep saying the same things. Yeah, they're, everything is, you know, echo

chamber based now because it's easier, number one, to exist in that world. But number two, you know, you find people who are aligned with you on the positive stuff and they're also aligned with you on the negative stuff. And oftentimes that latter half is the larger half when it comes to the, you know, amount of content you're consuming. Okay. Last question. Like if our country, just one thing, because if our country votes Carney, it's fully because they made everyone angry at Trump. Like it's got nothing to do with Carney.

I know. Being a suitable candidate. It's almost unbelievable to think about the hypnosis, to use your term, that the Canadian public has been put under since Trump became the president of the United States for a second time, has been wild to watch. You know, people forget that during COVID, there were stories about the for a second time has been wild to watch. People forget that during COVID, there were stories about the Canadian government using that as an opportunity to test out

psychological operation techniques on the public. And they think that there's, I guess they just found God, all of a sudden, and they're not doing it anymore. But I would caution them against that line of thinking. It sounds like you would do the same. The French debate is on tonight, probably just ended. I should watch it after this, but I, you know, I'm, I don't know. Now I think it might be bad for my mental health. Maybe.

Uh, last question. If you had to tell somebody, someone, let's say someone comes to you and, uh, they're curious about what you could do for them. You know, you're going to ask them a number of questions probably to see if they're a suitable candidate for some of the stuff that you can do, some of the expertise that you have. What are the questions people who are listening and watching should be asking themselves if they're thinking about going to see Heather or another person, you know, another holistic healer or hypnotist in their area? Is it, I just don't feel like myself? Is it, I just don't feel like myself? Is it, I just don't feel healthy?

Is it, I'm, like you said earlier, hitting the same roadblocks at work or in relationships or at the billiard hall. What is the, what is the, you know, maybe first question you think people should be asking and you know, what is the answer to that question that should guide them to someone like you? I think that it's probably doesn't matter the question that they ask, but it's just if there's anything that they can't do themselves. Like they can't heal this thing.

They can't feel better about this. They can't stop being angry. They can't, they're, they're really stuck in their, um, emotions or like a lot of people will just come, uh, like they want to change their habits. They want to stop being triggered by their family. They want to, their business to be more

successful or they want to get out of the, uh, fiat job and have a Bitcoin business. There's like anything, any goal can be exponentially arrived at faster by using your mind. Sometimes it might unfold that that's not actually really what you want, you just think you want that, so let's get to what you want and then let's do that. But that's more, that's for a deeper conversation. And ultimately I think like to everyone who's listening,

it's not really that complicated, it's just that I think part of the programming of this, of this fiat system that we live in is that somehow you're, something's wrong with you and you have to fix you and you should be able to do that on your own. And if, if you're not making more money, if this, if you're, if you're not getting healthy from our

healthcare, then it's you and you're broken and it's probably your genetics or it's probably something uncurable. But ultimately, those things are like where you have to come together is like you're not broken. You can be empowered to take control of your health and your wealth, but ultimately you might not be able to do it alone. And so both are true. Like you're well, fine the way you are, but if there's something you're stuck with, reach out. That's a good place to leave it.

Tell people where they can find out more about you, Heather, unhypnotized. I have to say, I enjoyed our conversation. I hardly ever talk about matters of the spirit and mind on this program. And I enjoyed our conversation. I hardly ever talk about matters of the spirit and mind on this program. And I enjoyed our discussion. I hope we can do it again once I sort out what's wrong with StreamYard and leave an angry comment on their support page. But in the meantime, tell people about your podcast. Tell people where they can find out more about you professionally and all that stuff. The floor is all yours. Thank you. Yeah, I think we need to do a part two. And because I never got to ask,

when are we setting the date for you to challenge Dave in being the most good looking and strong Bitcoin entrepreneur? I personally think that Dave's criterion are wrong. I'm obviously more handsome. I have softer features. I'm younger. My body fat percentage is lower. I probably squat more. Is that more handsome. I have softer features. I'm younger. My body fat percentage is lower.

I probably squat more. Is that more handsome? Like are those features more handsome? I don't know. You know, in my head, I'm manifesting it. So, you know, what's that worth? I'm not sure. I just want to see you in the ring.

I want to see you both in the ring. I think we should do like a whole championship. Anyways, thanks so much for having me. I want to see you both in the ring. I think we should do like a whole championship anyways. Thanks so much for having me. I mean, probably the best place to find me is my YouTube podcast, which is Unhypnotized on the CoinBeast channel and also on Axe at UnhypnotizeBTC. There we go. True Heather, thank you for coming.

Take care everyone. We'll see you next time. Until then, don't do anything that I wouldn't do and manifest good outcomes for yourself.