The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - Hunter Biden's LAPTOP Memecoin Launch Was a Disaster

Episode Date: September 15, 2026

Most of the Bitcoin came back. The trust problem didn't. This week on Canadian Bitcoiners, Joey and Len unpack Liquid's recovery dispute, Blockstream's refusal to pay the attacker, and the question still hanging over the missing reserve: who covers the rest?Then, a fake Trezor security alert sent through a compromised email provider puts the spotlight on the companies surrounding self-custody. Trezor says its wallet and product systems were not affected. We also dig into Hunter Biden's LAPTOP memecoin crash, Canada's treatment of tokenized bank deposits, and the gap between a token's quoted price and the money actually available to exit.On the Canadian side: Carney and Zelenskyy's 100-year partnership declaration, the Ontario Science Centre layoffs, and the week's questions about public spending and institutional accountability. From Bitcoin reserves to political promises, what are we being asked to trust—and who bears the cost when it fails?Which story deserves the most scrutiny: Liquid's recovery, the Trezor phishing incident, or Canada's century-long commitment?Canadian Bitcoiners PodcastWebsite: https://canadianbitcoiners.comSubscribe and turn on notifications — new episodes live Monday nights.READ MORETrezor's Brevo disclosure:https://trezor.io/blog/news/security-incident-at-brevo-our-third-party-email-providerLiquid recovery and ransom dispute:https://www.theblock.co/news/ecosystems/2026-09-11-return-the-bitcoin-blockstream-refuses-ransom-demand-for-remaining-600-btc-from-liquid-exploit-414247Canada–Ukraine declaration:https://www.international.gc.ca/country_news-pays_nouvelles/2026-09-10-canada-ukraine.aspx?lang=engOSFI statement on tokenized deposits:https://www.osfi-bsif.gc.ca/en/news/statement-tokenized-other-digitally-represented-deposits————————————————————————————————SPONSORS🔒 easyDNS — Canadian-owned domains, DNS, email and hosting from an ICANN-accredited company that has accepted Bitcoin since 2013. Use promo code CBPMEDIA for 50% off your first purchase.https://easydns.com⚡ Bull Bitcoin — Canada's non-custodial, Bitcoin-only exchange. CBP listeners get 25% off fees for life.https://app.bullbitcoin.com/registration/cbp🔥 256 Heat — Purpose-built Bitcoin miners that heat your space while producing hashrate. Tell them CBP sent you for a discount.https://256heat.com🎓 Bitcoin Mentor — One-on-one help with wallets, keys, self-custody, inheritance planning and nodes. Every package includes a 30-day money-back guarantee.https://btcmentor.io/aff/joey————————————————————————————————FOLLOW THE SHOW🎙️ CBP: https://x.com/CanadianBTCPod👤 Joey: https://x.com/joeytweeets👤 Len: https://x.com/thebtcpricebot📸 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/canadianbtcpod/💬 Discord: https://discord.gg/YgPJVbGCZXLISTENSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6WzoIyTowK47rcAmvrS7gtApple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-canadian-bitcoiners-podcast-bitcoin-news-with/id1561002990RSS: https://anchor.fm/s/538d43f4/podcast/rss⚠️ Everything in this episode reflects personal opinions only and should not be considered financial advice.#Bitcoin #CanadianBitcoiners #BitcoinNews

Friends and enemies coming to you live tonight from Laptop coin headquarters in parts unknown. Len has had his mic removed from his arsenal. It's just I work too much. I don't have time to do this. We're going to be chatting laptop. We're going to be chatting liquid. We're going to be chatting a bunch of stuff. And of course, Canada may be joining the European Union.

I don't know. I didn't vote for that. I'm not sure anybody voted for that, I guess. But hey, what does it matter? Let's do the intro and then we'll talk about it. And so, you know, the government can say whatever they want about this thing not competing. It's for black market only. It's for this for that.

But they're really treating it like a threat. And one of the things that can't be attacked is your self-custody Bitcoin. And one of the things that can be attacked is the ETF. Can't be exposed to that. That's my view. It's not a good idea. And by the way, that'll hit MSTR too. It'll probably hit other stuff as well.

Friends and enemies. Welcome back. Canadian Bitcoiners podcast. Friends and enemies, welcome to the CBP. Want to be better informed. Listen to 11, Joey. Spots is taking care off right off the top. Oh, Bitcoin and easy DNS.

The media's feeding the slop. You know, it's funny. I almost used my wireless mic today because I'm in the middle of reorganizing my office as well. And I decided, you know what, I'll just, I'll figure out a way to get everything together for the shows tonight. And then tomorrow, the night after I finish our editing, I'll fix everything up. Meanwhile, my co-host talking right into the camera. I come running running in. It's like, what the fuck?

This thing's not working. And it's, well, you know, this is the way life is. It's very busy these days for me. Is it the mic? Is it the mic or the wire? No, it's the mic. I, 100% sure. We got to replace it.

We got to expense you a new one. That's the only solution. I'll figure this out. I'll figure this shit out. It's just, I got to, whatever it is. It's good to see everybody. Thanks for listening. Thanks for watching all that good stuff.

We are going to be busy tonight. You could hear me. I can hear you. The only downside is, the editing will be a little harder, but you know what? It's nothing I can't fix, buddy. I've mastered it over the years.

Remember, once upon a time, Len and I used to give PDFs to guests before they came on the show to tell them to wear headphones and get a mic. And I still remember Sue Ennis, I think, did her interview basically from her bedroom. It's like the worst acoustics I've ever heard. If you want, if you want,

I could just disappear trying to fix us to come back. It could take a few minutes, though. To fix what, the mic? To fix the whole thing, yeah. It's right. I mean, I'll do the ads. I got the Hunter thing and we'll see what happens. I'll hop in in a bit.

All right. I'll see you. All right. All right. Yeah, I remember when we did the Sue Ennis interview. This was a long time ago now. This is like 2021. She did that interview for her bedroom and her boyfriend was walking by in the background.

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And maybe if you want, if we got some boost this week, we'll go there and then talk about our guy Hunter. He's been busy our guy Hunter. Yeah, yeah. So we do have some boost to Rev Hoddle, 420 sats he sent us. And he says, since the Canadian Bitcoin conference is canceled, the mic is blocking the camera. I can't hear you, bud.

The mic is blocking the camera. Now I can't hear you for the reason. Oh, God. This is a disaster. I don't understand. What the fuck's going on. Anyways, let me come back in a bit. Okay.

Listen, there's nothing that says commitment like Len running a Linux machine, even though I think my suspicion is that it's affecting the connectivity with some of the peripherals. Anyway, in the interest of trying to sort of spend a little more time making this a palatable video experience, tonight for the first time, I have produced a sidekick document that I'm going to use to pull up some of the stories that we talk about so that you don't just don't have to listen to me and look at my talking head floating on the screen. And I think this is basically the meta now on YouTube. everyone kind of does this. But we have not done it. We're going to try it tonight.

So first story tonight is the Hunter Biden laptop coin, meme coin. This thing, I think, ran up to a billion in change, total market value, which is pretty crazy. You got to think Hunter Biden, legendary money launderer, this guy, okay? Len, you'll remember he did an art collection, you may recall. Yeah No Apparently that was debunked

Wasn't it I mean By who Debunk by who CNN Was it It was NFTs

I think it was Wasn't it Or if I thought he was actually Painting stuff He was actually painting He did like oil paintings I remember there was a rumor That he was doing NFTs

But that was debunk Oh God Dude is selling art He was He may still be for all I know We should be buying this. The thing is that the usual money laundering tactics for politicians, the book deal, right, doesn't really work for Joe Biden because he can't read or write at this moment. Sad state of affairs.

But, you know, he's got this meme coin now. And I think it's interesting that the coin was launched in the first place, but not particularly interesting for any reason. Other than the Clarity Act has a revision in it about who can issue tokens and their relationship. to sitting or I think former sitting politicians in the United States, which is interesting. Most people are saying, you know, if you could point this to Trump for the Melania coin and stuff like that. But I do think there's a there's an adjacent story here about stuff like this. That's also, you know, in the view of regulators. And obviously clarity, you know, for whatever reason, it's in the news today because they made some changes to like the nature of what it means

to be a money transmitter. So if you, you know, are sort of a samurai dev type role for your token or even for your, even for Bitcoin, you still may be charged with money transmission. It's kind of like a red flag law in a way. Brandon Gentile was just saying this on Bitcast. I couldn't agree with it more. You can just basically, you know, put anyone you want in the line of fire and the government will have an excuse to come after you if it's politically, politically viable, let's say, politically expedient to do so. And I think that, you know, this laptop coin thing, the thing that really blows me away, Len, is people still bought it.

Like, if you look online, it looks to me like it's more than just bot activity. There is a lot of bot activity, but it looks to me that there's more than that. And it makes me wonder, in the year 2026, okay, we are still looking at celebrity meme tokens. trying to make a buck when literally everybody except you is going to get exit liquidity via you and your buddies on Discord, Telegram, whatever. Like the insider groups are anything but. The insider groups are actually exit liquidity

for the mods of those groups, the admins of those groups, the subreddit leaders, whatever. This is so obviously a scam from the hop. And yet, as I was saying, I think when you were kind of cutting, we're not cutting it when you left. This thing ended up at greater than a billion and a quarter market cap, I think, for a while. That is the last traded price, Joey.

Still. I mean, it's there. If you buy something, so there's a, what's the circulation of billion tokens? I don't know. I didn't look at the total. It's a billion tokens in circulation. So I'm not sure what the math. But if somebody makes a bid at like a thousand, which then you just multiply it by the circulation.

That's the market cap. Is that a reflection of what it really is? I mean, a minimum, it's probably worth even more than that. Oh, for sure. That kind of quality product. Absolutely. So the thing with this, not sure if you mentioned it when I was just when I was gone, but he's going to be either donating or burning 30% of supply.

Have you heard about this? He loves burning supply. I'll tell you that. I'm not sure if it's ever been tokens, but he's been known to set a supply on fire. Yeah. So it's going to be like 30% of supply. And it depends on a few different events, Joey. If the Democrats win the House and Senate, then they're going to be burning.

Or they'll also potentially donate to the charity. Those are one of the two options. So if Trump faces impeachment, that's going to happen. My God, now your mic is cutting out again. And there's no mic plugged in. This is a disaster. I don't know, man. I don't know.

I don't know. It's not, it's not viable. The audio is not viable. I will. Got problems here. Carry it while you can. I'll try fixing it behind the scenes. I will carry it.

Maybe if, Boomer, if you're in the audience watching or if someone's in the audience watching and it feels like they're competent in front of a mic on camera, then it'll take just about anybody right now. I'll be back.

Okay. So the, yeah, Len brings up a good point about circulating supply. But I will say that, you know, it's hard to get circulating supply down 30% without at least, you know, harming some of the quote-unquote investors who sold earlier, right?

The plan obviously would be to like limit the surplus and building some scarcity. They like all these tokens, dude. These guys are all the same. Anyway, fuck that guy, fuck his token. And I hope that no one buys his art. Let's talk about Blockstream. This is obviously still a pretty big story. I don't know how I feel about this.

And I saw Crypto cloaks, Rick. The accounting is that 600 Bitcoin has not been returned from the original ransom total. And you can say what you want about white hat, black hat, who's really doing the right thing through all this. I don't know where I come down on that. I think such a thing as a gray hat hacker, there is such a thing as like someone who is more interested in watching the world burn. There is someone who's in between those two things. And ultimately, you know, I'm not going to pretend to mind read and know where the hacker sits. I will say that the stuff that they've been openly discussing in operturns, it does look like that hacker or hacking group like hates out of back and has it out for Blockstream for what I would call personal reasons.

I don't know if that's true or not, but to me it seems like a pretty obvious like personal slant. No problem. Okay. So let's put that aside. maybe park that for a second. There's another set of circumstances around this that are worth discussing if you want to talk about whether or not you should use liquid. Bull Bitcoin, by the way, offers liquid on Bull wallet.

My suggestion to you is probably don't use it. Even if it comes back online, maybe don't use it. And if you do have to use it for some reason, then you've got to set up a low threshold after which you are moving the coin over to Bulls credit specifically, that wallet that they have on the app stores allows for an automatic transfer from the, we'll call it a hot liquid wallet to the secure quote-unquote Bitcoin side. Great, but still I would probably stay away from it. And one of the reasons is because it's hard to tell here, for example,

because Blockstream's not been very transparent, to be honest with you, about where the money and the hack was assigned and where it came from, and whether or not it was user funds that are still outstanding. It's hard to know. At 3,400 Bitcoin returned and 600 outstanding, I think I have that right. What you're seeing there probably is some, at least some of the outstanding Bitcoin belonging directly to Blockstream

coming off of their balance sheet, that's seeding for the network. They're going to be able to give everybody their funds. Your mic is working. This is great. I think they can do it now to be. be honest with you, Len. I think they're holding out because that coin belongs to them. And that's the problem they're having.

So Adam Beck says that the network resumption is coming up. And he says that the peg will be covered. But he says that don't panic sell. Why does he say don't panic sell? He wants people to use the network, I think. That's all. He's making money off of it somehow, right? Like, that's why. I have a feeling there's something more to it. We're going to know right away. We're going to know. I just told people when you were off that they should avoid using this thing basically at all going forward. You know, if that's the, if that's the, if the risk profile is something that looks like this, then you can't, you know, you can't use it.

And even Lightning too has its issues. Yeah. If you're using CLN, C Lightning, that is, it's had some real problems in the past little while. So be very careful of what you use. On chain is the way to go. So, yeah. So just a heads up. Just to give an idea what's, what's going on behind the scenes here.

I started work really late. I ended up work really big. I basically came from work to here. My sister-in-law, just a sad thing, her cancer is getting really aggressive. Oh, terrible. So that's caused just a huge, everything's thrown up over here upside down. So that's why I just came running in, plug in. It's like, oh, shit, it didn't work.

Another thing that's just not working these days. So here's where we're at. And hopefully this thing stands at test of time. And at least for this to show. We're cooking with gas now. We got you. The audio is good. Very good. Very good.

Yeah. So the exploiter returned 3,400 Bitcoin. I mean, I don't know. Wasn't it 3600? He returned 34, it looks like. So I don't think he said anything back since. Yeah, he still owes 598.5. I really want to know how much of that is, like I said, how much of that is Blockstream's Bitcoin and how much of that is actual user funds.

I have a hard time believing. It's just pure intuition on my part. I'm speculating here a little bit. But given the number of people we know in Bitcoin, what is the likelihood that all those billions were user funds on the network? That's a good question. I can't answer that. Me neither, but it cannot be more than, you know, it's not a number I would bet on.

You know, I'd rather take the Browns against the Patriots, you know, at plus 15. They looked worse than my beer league team yesterday. They look bad. They were, this should, the browns, the browns. Okay. Yeah, they would look terrible. I don't, I don't know. I don't know where I come down on whether or not they'll get all the money.

But you're right. The don't panic sell thing is kind of weird to say. But you know what? We're going to know right away whether or not it's something that is actually, you know, a problem for network liquidity. I suspect it won't be, but I honestly, there's no way to know. There's no way to know. did you see the whole thing with Revolut?

Yeah, of course. Yeah. So I found it to be ironic, given that, you know, they do with traditional banking, at least in a way that's, they don't have branches for the most part. So you have to use the app and so forth. But still, it's, you know, it's to do banking with them. But they screwed over a bunch of people. Yeah. For people who haven't heard, this is scary stuff.

and there was a data breach. And the data breach, it's involving the KYC and the financial records of their company, of Revolut, so of the customers. And that includes Bitcoin transactions. That's a scary thing. So someone spoofed the government email. And then with that email, they were able to trick the system and get access to what's inside Revolut. And they were able to get a valid domain authentication credentials. And they passed a routine security checks alongside that.

So somehow they got in with that fake email address. And now on the table is $5 wrench attacks. Certainly that's in play. And Revolut for their part, I can't believe they're saying this. They say their internal servers or core servers and customer accounts were not breached or compromised through malware or network intrusion. No. Oh, like, this is stupid they even say that. Okay, granted it wasn't done to that, but still people got rugged here with their information.

Somebody got in through the front door with just a simple spoofing of an email address. That's all it took for them to do it. And the company said they blocked the email account and they notified law enforcement, financial regulators, and data protection authorities. And they're going to be reaching out to affected users. This is the proverbial closing the barn door after the whole. horses left the barn. And what information was leaked?

This is, I think, beyond the typical stuff. You have the full names, the date of birth, occupation, postal code, email addresses, phone numbers. Quite a dump. Scans and copies of passports, drivers licenses, onboarding verification selfies,

account statements, eye bands information, account status data, opening dates, wallet reference numbers, It goes on and on. Full transaction histories for Bitcoin, Joey. So somebody now has access to this. They'll sell it. And that information is going to be used.

And they now know your full financial history with Revolutes. They now know where you live. They now know potentially how much you make. How many Bitcoin transactions you've made that Revolute knows about, it's a recipe for disaster. And the company is stating that only a quote unquote very limited number of users globally were impacted by the impersonation incident. Don't give me a break. And so it's just another KYC mishap here.

And you called it to kill your customer, I think last week. I feel like that caught on, by the way. More and more people saying that. I don't think I said it on BitCast, too. I don't know where I feel like I coined that and also Bippers. I didn't hear anyone say bippers before me. Yeah. Take my flowers.

What the bippers moving forward. But the KIC stuff, this is brutal. They have a duty to protect information and they failed. And what are they going to give? The one year credit monitoring services or maybe I'm sorry it won't happen again. Yeah. We had that person in Mexico and his family. They were killed this past week because.

Thieves wanted to get access to their Bitcoin. These people now that had their information leaked out, if there's any big rollers out there that have, you know, I don't know how many Bitcoin, whatever it may be, that's nasty. What are you going to do? You just can't pick up and move somewhere else. That's just a temporary,

eventually they'll find you out and know the fact that you have X amount of Bitcoin and they'll fuck you up as a result. This is bad, man. It's crazy that in a world where it's the frontier models that are causing all the problems for Bitcoin-related companies, the bank, you know, you don't even need the frontier model. You just have to get on the phone with some retard at Revolut who hands you the keys to the fucking fortress. It's unbelievable this story. These are supposed to be the most secure, like the most secure operations on planet Earth. And they're getting Nigerian

prints, basically, you know, something that's adjacent to the Nigerian prints and handing over tons of customer data. Now, the thing to keep in mind is that, it takes time for the data to kind of like proliferate on the dark web and go to the people who will eventually cause problems for the leaked names. In France, we saw basically a bulge in activity on the wrench attack side of things after 2024's leak. It really was 2025 and even more recently earlier this year, right? We're getting like one wrench attack a week basically on this show. And so it'll take time for it to leak in. By then, if you think about the conditions in a place like France, for example, or other places around the world, basically any modern democracy to be perfectly honest with you, the conditions are worsening to the point where in two years, the number of people willing to break your fucking door down for a couple of bucks is going to be way higher than it is now, I think.

And I don't think I'm alone in that either. The bond market agrees with me. The betting markets on rates agree with me. Housing agrees with me. All that data points in one direction. And that direction is not pretty for people who are not protecting themselves or had their information leaked. So you got to think, you know, there's a great tweet that I don't have handy.

But basically you went from cold card to treasur to ledger to eventually just go, fuck it. I'm putting all my money in the bank. And then they fucking leak your address too. Like, it's better to just have no money because, like, you just, otherwise you're in danger, you know, like, that's the kind of world you're living in now. And it's wild. It is totally wild, man. It's, it's hard to, hard to see it any other way.

You know, I sympathize with the black pillars for sure. So let me ask you then. Is France the worst country? Oh, it's got to be. It's got to be. It's got to be. Yeah. President's wife might be a man.

She's unrelated She's She's like She's like You know Causing problems for people State side if they say that

She won't But she won't prove her gender Making that what she will Like unbelievable relationship With with the rest of Europe Like they pretend they're a superpower But they're really like the best kid On the double A team

They don't even know What the AAA guys are up to You know like it really is so funny How much of a joke these guys are Plus McCrone In my opinion has one of the lamest, weakest, and worst combovers anywhere in the leadership realm. And that's saying a lot given the guy next door.

One thing I appreciate about Carney is that he is aging gracefully. He's a handsome guy. He doesn't seem to care too much about his outward appearance. Meanwhile, all these other guys are trying to hang on to whatever modicum of youth they think they have. They're not fooling anybody, even their wives with quotation marks around it. You know, don't necessarily like it. Buddy, we just saw Brigitte fucking punched the guy in the face. on a plane a couple months ago. Do you not remember that?

She fucking punched him in the doorway of the France whatever Air Force Un, whatever they call that thing. Now, where are you placing your laptop coin on which fighter? Bridget or Brigitte

versus Michelle. Oh, Michelle, buddy. I bet you Michelle's got a two plate row for sure. She hits bent over as hard, 100%. Yeah, she's a beast. You're just going based on the fact that she... I actually don't think Michelle Obama's a man. I don't think she is.

I didn't say Obama. It's just as Michelle. Well, I mean, I know what you're talking about. You're talking about big money. I mean, I know. Oh, yeah, whatever. I'm talking about it. It's just cultural talk.

Okay, don't arrest us. We're just talking about things that are pervasive in the realm here. Anyway, where do you want to go next? Treasurer and Bitbox. Let me get the link. Let me get the link. Let's do it. Another big leak. Another big leak.

Yeah, yeah. So we have treasure, bitbox, and coin tracking. All three are issuing urgent users to people out there. It was a cyber attack on a third party email and newsletter marketing platform. That's Brevo. There is B-R-E-O. And the result of this, there's going to be, and there already has been targeted fishing emails. People are saying be very careful because if you have signed up to these newsletters using your email address, you potentially will be getting some nasty emails saying that you have to provide your 12 or 24 words, shit like that because they're going to try to fish as much as possible to get people to provide information and to, well, maybe give up their Bitcoin.

Treasers reportedly that roughly 2,500 users clicked the malicious link. Come on. 25. I mean, they deserve what they get. Like what? Oh, my God. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah.

Yeah. And so the site has been since taking down or one of them, but it doesn't mean there's going to be different sites with different fishing emails coming out. And so people are receiving these fraudulent emails. It comes with a subject line. Say, it's something like critical, security. and that you have to then download an app or enter your seeds. Obviously, none of these two things anybody should do.

So just another one, you know, like, it's every week, I think we talk about another fucking breach. And this is, I don't know if this is a result of AI or just sheer luck. But this is the reality we live in, right? It's just, it's another one. We hear about it. Maybe there being more forthcoming than, say, the Fiat world. And maybe there's just, you know, who knows? I have a feeling this has to do with something to do with AI, getting access to the ability to use that and to find security problems in particular platforms.

And maybe we just don't hear about it when it comes to Fiat. They just brush your shit under the rug, print more Fiat and just make us whole. And nobody gets a shit about anything. No. And this is unfortunate because it is happening more and more, especially to the, like, The big hardware manufacturers, they don't, they just don't have, you know, honestly, either physical or digital logistics rails. And so they're having trouble now with these third-party providers, whether it was

shipmunk, I think, Ledger and Treasor both used shipmunk. Yes, it was a showmunk, yeah. And, you know, now this on the, on the mailer side, you'll notice it was taking down the DNS level. So 20 minutes is all it takes for this much damage to be done. with 2,500 people clicking those spam links. They said almost a third of a million. It's almost $374,000, I think I saw.

Yeah. That's huge number. Yeah. That's like less than a percent. But it's all you need. It's all you need. You know what it's like? I think you brought this up or somebody brought this up.

The cadence and like phrasing of these Nigerian print emails are, they look stupid to you and me. And so you're always wondering, like, who would ever click on this? But the answer is it doesn't look stupid to some people. And those are the people that they're targeting, right? Like, they're not, they're not trying to get big fish with these things. They're trying to get the dumbest kind of lowest common denominator. Same thing here. People panic and click, especially because you just had the cold card thing. And people see the keywords, right? Vulnerability, entropy, seed. And they're like, oh, my God, freaking out. I got to pump my seed phrase into this, like, you know, web-based Excel sheet or something and get my coins to safety. And I'm, and they're like,

really it's the opposite. And I don't know how, like I said earlier, I don't know how it's possible that people are still clicking these things in, in 2026, because let's face it, this is a Bitcoin show. So we talk about Bitcoin a lot. But if I think about the number of emails I get from like Canadian financial institutions

or the number of like spoofed calls I get from Canadian financial institutions or the number of spoofed emails you get from like Apple, from Anthropic, from, you name it. Like, they're junk emails and Gmail tells me right away. It's not the right person. And, you know, my phone tells me right away.

You sure you want to click this. It's going to an external website. Like, it'll tell you all, it'll give you all the warnings in the world. But then there's just not, there's no fixing stupid at the end of the day, you know? Like, you can't warn a dumb guy away from the fire. That guy's still going to fucking go to the fire and melt the skin off his bones. It seems to me to be the case anyway. And while not in huge numbers, obviously, like 2,500 out of 400K.

is low, very low. But it's all you need to make the hack worth it. You know, if you get two, three Bitcoin out of the deal, shit, why not? Why not? The reason why people are, you're still getting it to this day in 2026 is because it does kind of work. Very, very low percentage. But again, like you say, if you get one Bitcoin, two Bitcoin, then the whole operation

is deemed to be successful on the attacker's side because then they made it like a bad and you know what's interesting too, like not to cut you off. But I keep on hearing stories about how it's going to be so hard to like take this Bitcoin and actually launder it and spend it or use it. Like everyone's going to be putting a target on your back. We heard this for the cold card hack. We're hearing it for liquid now. And, you know, presumably people who lose money during this thing are going to be saying something similar. But man, we've talked about these stories, Len, over the years, different like hacks and social engineering attacks and other just, you know, obvious but effective.

ways to get a hold of your Bitcoin. How many times have we had a follow-up story that was, you know, something along the lines of they caught this guy who took the Bitcoin because he was sloppy in his, you know, UTXO history and didn't mix it enough or, you know, it was was too transparent on some step of the path. The answer is never. Well, no, we do have a story about that today. Oh, fuck, here we go. Of course. Of course we do. What a surprise. Every once in a while there's going to be a story like that that pops up that people just make some stupid moves. This is just my opinion. And that could be wrong.

So the person who stole the money from the cold card, we'll call it a hack, but I know it's not. Whether it was just used that term for this particular case. And then also for the liquid, the bounty that that guy made for himself, they have a lot of Bitcoin each of them. I assume it's one entity for each of the two. Let's go with that. Using that Bitcoin, it's going to be challenging to use it all in a short period of time. But using a little bit over today, it's possible. You could easily use it.

If you do it right, you just got to plan it out long term. And you could then eventually make that all accessible and not tied to you. Or at least very difficult to tie it to you. So I think that the Bitcoin that was taken in the cold card, sorry, in the blocks. Sorry, the block stream shit. That stuff is going to be available over not long enough period of time. So, you know, it doesn't take long to mix that.

It doesn't take long to hide your tracks. You can use lightning to figure this out. Anything. You could use liquid, USTT. You could use lightning. They wouldn't go back to liquid. Well, obviously not now. But yeah, there was ways to do this before, right?

Like, it wasn't hard. Yeah. Did you see Wasabi today release a new update too where it lets you track inputs to make sure there's no foreign inputs into your mix? as well. They're on, they are very much onto the fact that people are looking to trace privacy-focused transactions and they're doing everything they can to stop it. Wasabi's had some issues with their software. Yeah, in the past, in the past.

In the past two weeks. And I think it has to do what there's been some security flaws that have been identified. And to be honest, I'm not sure if they've fixed them, but if they have, I don't know, good for them. But if not, you know, stay away from it. Block. Block. Block.

They're getting into the world of banking. And this past week, we heard that they applied to establish something called Builders Bank and Trust. And the bank is going to operate as a federally regulated bank, but it will be an uninsured national trust bank. So these guys are not going to be taking any deposits. They're not going to be issuing any loans. There's going to be no checking or no savings deposits. So the question people have, and I had this from the very beginning of when I was reading this, what the fuck's the point of this?

Well, they're going to be providing custodial services for stuff like Bitcoin and stable coins. And their headquarters, interestingly enough, Joey, is going to be located in Stanford, Connecticut. Maybe there'll be a mayor, neighbor of Connecticut. Yeah, why? Stanford, Stanford, Connecticut, right? That's where Mr. Man makes home. Anyways,

Block, they are going to get this company started up with $95 million. They're going to inject that right into the company, and they're going to use that. And the application still needs to be approved by regulators. So this isn't a slam dunk. But if they do go ahead, there may be some competition out there from companies like Bitco, Paxo,

circle, and even ripple. But not just them. there's also J.P. Morgan, B.N.Y. Mellon, State Street, and Northern Trust. They all also want to move forward with custodial services. So Block, they do have one thing going for them. They have Cash App, right? Yeah. So with Cash App, they could, I don't know if they could somehow migrate all those users,

somehow point them to the Builders Bank and somehow use that as a way to onboard a whole bunch new users. Plus, we have the Genius Act, the Clarity Act. So there's a lot of movement going on in the stable front side of things. And I think this is an interesting, interesting new development from Block. I don't know if I'd ever use it. I'm sure some people would. But you know what? It's just this seems to be a sign of the times.

And shit like this, I think we're to hear more and more. And Block is trying to, I guess, front run a few others that are going to be doing this and not too distant future. Yeah, I think you're right about that. They have an upper hand, I think, because Dorsey seems to be in tight with the White House, which is pretty important these days. I mean, it's important no matter who the administration is, but especially important with 47.

And, you know, the other thing, too, is you mentioned there. Cash app does give them a little bit of an interesting angle as far as like an in, right? So you got a large amount of people use a little bit of shot. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They have already

an established user base. They have their contact information. And most importantly, like the regulatory stuff is probably taking care of in a a big way, right, already? Could you imagine it could somehow link it to when you're using cash-aff? If you want to store your Bitcoin, you could use this bank as a way to do it, that quote-unquote bank. And then that way when they leak your information, it's just all there in one place for everybody.

Absolutely. It makes us so much sense. But there's certainly some synergies here when you look at what they have to offer. And so it kind of makes sense in the overall scheme of things. Again, it's not something I would like to use, but I think some people might. especially as more and more people are probably going to be opting to use stable coins. Yeah. Once the Clarity Act, if it Clarity Act is ever solved, I guess.

It's going to get, the Clarity Act is just a set of, like, regulatory frameworks that can be imposed either through process or through, like, precedent setting by the lettered agencies, right? They don't have to do it. It's figuring out who has control over what. Yeah. That's part of it. But I more mean, like, how Gensler's SEC. ruled by edict, you know, in certain cases they would just, they would just find criminals at the lower tiers of crypto and then try to apply those precedents to larger fish in the sea. It didn't work all the time, but it did work sometimes. They didn't wait for congressional, you know, approval to do things. They just opted to operate independently of those lawmaking processes. I don't know that clarity will go through that too, but I think it's at least possible. On the side of, on the side of the integration between, yeah, between like Block and Bitcoin and, and, and, and, and and now, you know, this builder's bank, man, I think, I think that even if you didn't,

here's the thing, okay, I think that even if you didn't have Bitcoin, let's say you didn't have a big allocation of Bitcoin. You're still like, you're a zoomer or an alpha and you're, you know, 17, 18, 19 years old. You're looking for a bank. Your parents bank is just the worst place in the world. You go in there, it smells like mothballs. They give you a fucking red and white mint. They don't even have any like fucking curigs there. It sucks. Okay. There's still no almond milk in the fridge. It's all 2%. and you go in there and the guy treats you like a fucking schmuck, right? You and him and your dad are talking about money.

They don't care what you say. They're trying to sell you investment, you know, strategies that have not worked for a long time. 60, 40, this, you got to buy mutuals, that, blah, blah, blah, you know, save X percent of your paycheck. You don't want to hear that. Man, you know what you want to see? You want to see a bank that's run by a guy who's like living overseas, doing whatever the fuck Jack Dorsey's doing these days. he runs block. He also has stripe at his disposal too. Don't forget about that. And it does the Bitcoin thing and the crypto thing if you count stable coins in that pool. That's the disruption that

I think most banks are afraid of. They can say whatever they want about stable coin balances and regulatory capture and we've got to be KYC friendly and all this stuff. What they're really afraid of is the next generation just not ever walking into a, you know, Chase Manhattan bank or something like that. Like, you're just never going to do it. And, you know, you and me are, you know, a few years apart in age. But, you know, I think we're in the same boat. Like, how many times do you, when you look at like banking, you know, you don't even,

you don't even use the bank really probably for anything outside of like your mortgage and your bills, right? Everything is in Bitcoin. And so, like, you know, I, when I think about my own story, I'm very close to the same. I have one investment accounts, not with a bank. I have my Bitcoins, not with the bank. The only time I really interact with the bank on any equal or close to equal footing is for my mortgage.

That's it. They don't get any other time for me. They don't get any other resources. And I think most damaging to the bank, they don't get any other look into my assets. And I think that's something that bothers governments and banks because, let's face it, the banks are an arm of government surveillance, especially here in Canada, where if you're a Canadian, you have basically four banks, they all work together. Adam O'Brien knows this maybe better than anybody. You know, the guy's wife is not able to get a bank account for

God's sake because he runs a Bitcoin exchange. Like, these are arms of the surveillance state. And what they're really afraid of is not fucking stable coin yield. It's what happens if getting that yield means they never come into the Panopticon. That's the thing that worries them. And we miss that in Bitcoin sometimes. We hear these stories about, oh, the banks are trying to keep their usury, you know, alive with this interest bullshit and all this other nonsense. But no, minute, that is the low resolution view of what's actually going on. The, you know, tired, wired, inspired meme is actually that it is the security that the banks grant the government vis-a-vis surveillance that's going to be lost if you start going somewhere else to bank. That is the thing that worries them the most.

Do you feel that Bitcoin lost some steam in a past little while? I mean, in terms of what? Like public excitement? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Whatever. It just seems like it has lost a little bit of steam.

I don't, okay. Let me ask something. Because I thought about this the other day. Is it possible that you and me are just like busier now and don't have a lot of time to talk about it with like friends and family the way we did a couple of years ago? Sometimes that's how it feels to me more than it's lost steam. I think it's also in some times. chats I'm in and so it just seems like it has lost a little bit of steam given the fact that

the markets I mean they're closer to an all-time high than it is bitcoin is to an all-time high and so I'm looking at that and a lot of people are looking at that are saying that Bitcoin might have lost a little bit of steam now I'm still 100% bullish on Bitcoin but what I'm trying to get at is the younger folk the people that are just starting to learn a little bit more well of finances I'm wondering if they're not even just looking at Bitcoin or anything along those lines. I'll even call shit coins. And just because there isn't much hoopla around it. And so there may be like a few years of people that are 18, 19, 20s, whatever the fuck they may be.

Do we have to usher them back to Bitcoin, at least point them to the direction of Bitcoin? And I fear that they're going to potentially just be entering and dealing with Fiat first. And they don't even look at Bitcoin. A lot of fiat distractions now, right? What did somebody point out a little while ago that, you know, if you look at the difference for a new entrant now compared to new entrants then, let's face it, you and me both started buying this thing for number go up. Well, now a number go up on polymarket and sports betting a lot more easily, right? Yeah. And it's it's so easy to get involved in the sports betting.

The friction, there's zero friction whatsoever. You can just download an app, sign up, and you're betting that same night. and they'll give you some incentives to do so like your first bet is going to be $50 or not to mention then that all those apps also have like an onboard casino you can just like thumb a roulette wheel or whatever all night long if you want and a few years ago when COVID first started and all everything was shooting up and everybody was was just rolling the nice and whatever they Bitcoin had a lot of steam because it was something new for a lot of people they had cash readily available or like why don't want to just buy Bitcoin? It just seems like now, for whatever reason, just for, I think the younger folks are just going to be, we're going to lose a couple of years worth of them. The ones that are just first getting a job and having some disposable income, whatever disposable income they have and trying to invest in something. I think they're going to invest in, unfortunately, in stocks and shit like that, which is too fucking bad because that's, in the end, I think that's a mistake. That's my opinion. You can shoot me down if I'm wrong.

but I just think that unfortunately there's been a little bit of steam lost from Bitcoin. And what that means, though, it's a good time to buy. Yeah. Right. I don't know what the price is now, 80,000-ish or so. I mean, it's my block clock still says. I have a phone over there. I think it's like 78 or 79.

We can look. Let's have a look live on air. It's price check. CBP price check live on air. It's 782 right now. Yeah. That's a wonderful price to buy. opinion.

Yeah, Cryptamine is making a good point, too, that people are also just broke. Yeah, they're just broke. Yeah, they're just broke. Nobody has,

nobody. But, you know, I'm just wondering if they didn't even looking at it at all. And just, whatever.

I can tell you somebody that was looking at it was this guy, Malone Lamb, and this is a guy, 22-year-old from Singapore. And this is a story where you should be careful

where you store your keys. So this guy, Malone, didn't even finish eighth grade. He dropped out, but he was living in Miami. So the guy was at least living it up in an area that's got some wealth and good weather. Well, he pleaded guilty in a federal court because he stole over $245 million, both he and his associates, in Bitcoin.

So Buddy went after somebody in Washington, and that guy was loaded with Bitcoin. And so the guy in Washington had a ton of Bitcoin, Malone Lamb and their buddies went after them. Lamb and crew, they used social engineering to get access to the funds. And they were able to trigger a fake Google account security alert and that shook up the victim. And so then they called up the victim. They were posing as a Google support. And then later on, they went again and they were calling us later as representatives of Gemini Crypto Exchange. And they convinced him that his accounts were under attack.

And with all this, they manipulated him in handing over the verification codes and access for them to access his Google Drive, for which he store a lot of private information, including his private keys. So they talked to me also to installing any desk that is the remote access software. Can't make this stuff up, Joey. In the end, they stole 4,100 Bitcoin. Ironically, isn't that the total amount that was on liquid before all this transpired? If you need a loan of a few hundred Bitcoin, I know a guy who's not on the lamb, pun intended anymore.

He wouldn't be able to get a hold of them. But that number 4,100 seems awfully suspicious here. Love it. And so lamb and associates, these guys, they took the Bitcoin. They did not lay low. They lived a very wealthy lifestyle. They bought over 30 cars. There's some beautiful photos there.

There's some shoes over there that you can see over there. Suicide doors on what looks to be like some kind of exotic new Lambo or something. I don't know. Yeah. Looks like a Lambo. And then they had one person bought a $2 million watch. They had $2 million. The watch was $2 million.

And they rented a Miami, several Miami mansions. Private jets. They even went out the party. one particular party, they went to an LA nightclub. Remember, they're in Miami, so they took a jet private to get out to L.A. One night, they spent $570,000

on a single night's bar tab. Buddy was then arrested, charged, and he pled guilty. And, yeah, so he's going to be facing up to 20 years in prison. And, yeah, he's fucked. So this is all the... Is 20 years too much?

think? Is it too much? He'll be 42. His life is done at that point. I mean, I don't, whatever. I'm just looking at the big thing of this story is the guy in Washington and had a hundred, like so much Bitcoin, he stored the keys

on a Google drive. Don't do that. Be very careful. Well, you saw your keys. Don't put it online, especially in plain text. If you're going to put it somewhere online, which you should not encrypt the fuck out of it. You know what, do whatever you want.

I love this. I took the pictures down, obviously, but the fucking Jordan's littered with the evidence tags. Every single pair of shoes needs a tag. I got to say, you know, in Bitcoin, there is something to this idea that you should live

a life of modesty a little bit. I'm not saying you can't enjoy your life. Like, if you invest in Bitcoin a while ago, you're doing quite well. but a life of excess puts a target on you. And this is the case regardless of whether you're a bickoiner. If you're living a life of excess, you will have people looking at what you're doing with a very, very, very careful

lie. And I'm not just talking about people like TMZ, although they will be among them. I'm talking about financial regulators. I'm talking about people who will kill you for your money. I'm talking about people who will hack your Google account to see if you have any private keys there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's very, very difficult to make a good case in the year 2026 where social media is all at rage and everyone's looking at all times.

There's always a camera. It's hard to make a case that living a loud lifestyle is a good idea. The population of most countries where a loud lifestyle would be any kind of enjoyable or rewarding is now littered with people who have no impulse control and will kill you for a buck. Like, I can't stress enough. Just lay low. Just lay low. It's easier to not have to worry about certain things and that sort of idea that you can pass wealth down to people. You don't have to spend every penny.

I realize they stole all this money. And so maybe Impulse is not really in their list of fortays. But it's just obvious that you shouldn't be spending half a million dollars on a bar tab. It's obvious. You don't need to take a class for that. When the NFL does its money management courses for rookies, okay, I promise you that the number they use for a bad idea to spend at the bar is a lot lower than $500k. And so this is just completely inexcusable from this idiot. Yeah.

What you could do, you could get the knockoff Jordans. You could get a kit car instead of... Just go to DHGate. That's right. Just do everything fake. You know, it looks like you're doing it. But anybody that really knows it's fake and the guy's just poor as fuck and he's just trying to act like a rich person.

But in the end, you have a lot of Bitcoin on your balance sheet. We got an issue. We got an issue correction, courtesy of Polly here. That car was an eventador SVJ worth close to $2 million. So almost as much as his watch. Close. Go ahead. Can you know what?

Let's do the boost because I didn't do it at the top. I know we did drop out of the Bitcoin side. Okay. Rev Hoddle 420 SATs. And he writes in, since the Canadian Bitcoin conference is canceled, at least for this year,

y'all going to hold a hotel party on conference instead. A countrywide meetup where all groups meet up on the same day. What glues Canadian Bitcoin culture together like that? 40 hours per week.

I'm not opposed to it. A bunch of hotel parties throughout to Canada. I mean, I had that weekend kind of penciled out, right? Because I was going to be hosting. So I knew I'd be busy probably Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and part of Sunday. But ended up, obviously, now with the weekend free. I don't know.

You want to have a hotel party? Is there a hojo's nearby we can rent? You know? A motel 6. They even have those up here? There's one on Burlington. I see all the time. when I drive by it.

Oh, okay. So yeah, there's like a walk or jeline or something like that. Yeah, I mean, we'd have to go to a place with a bar. I would actually be happy to have like a fall meetup. I got to talk to D if he's out of the woods yet, although I don't even know if he's going to be appearing in public any time soon. But, you know, he should be able to. It's not his fault, by the way, what happened?

There's some stupid people up there. Totally, I know. And so I wouldn't mind doing a meet up of some kind. Yeah, I mean, why not? Sure. Go to like a bar in the area. I'm not going to Toronto. I'll tell you that.

Toronto is a nightmare to drive to. I don't care how many of you are from there. I'm not fucking doing it. I'm not going to safari, all these dumb like meet up ideas you guys have had over the years. Just get off of this now. I'm not doing it.

We'll pick a nice place up, I don't know, Burlington. Bolton, man. Do Bolton. Where's Bolton? Just up 27. I'm not going all the way there either. Mo, BTC, Dick.

500 sats. He writes in, didn't realize you were a sneakerhead joy. Jordans are my weakness. Yeah. Damn. J's are tough. I will say I like,

I'm a big sneaker guy. I don't collect. That's an expensive habit. If you want to get into an expensive habit, then try Goodyear welted boots. Like go to the Truman website or, what's another good one? Like obviously the entry level stuff like Red Wings,

Iron Ranger or Beckman. I don't even think they make the Beckman anymore, actually. There's a few good entry-level brand names, but some of the stuff you can get, boot-wise. Isn't that Beck Person? It's Beck Person now. Yeah, sorry, we're politically correct on this show.

Man, the Goodyear Welted boots you can buy are fucking expensive, dude. But it's a whole other adventure. You have the enjoyment of buying them, and then the enjoyment of caring for them sort of season to season, watching the patina grow and everything. awesome. There's a place in Hamilton land called Millers on John Street, James or John, I forget, downtown anyway. And in the midst of like what has become a very turmoil ridden zone of the city,

this shoe store doesn't have a pair of shoes that's under 400 bucks. And you don't get to touch the shoe during the try on. They put it on your foot. They tie it up. It touches you. It's great. It is so great. And it's owned by, it's still owned by a Miller. And his son works there. now too. And so his son is a big, whatever, shoe, boot guy. I cannot recommend going there enough. Like, I'm a little bit of a homer, obviously. But man, I, if you're into shoes and all that, you get your Canadian, like winter boots, they're expensive, but you can have a lot of fun. I'll tell you that. Business cat, 1337 sats. And he writes in PLA, which is the cheapest slash easiest stuff to 3D print with, is totally strong enough to stand up.

to the heat and pressure of 22 LR. I don't know what 22 LR is, but it says rapid fire will melt it though. Thank you for your attention to this matter. Oh, he's talking about 3D printed guns, I think. 22 from, okay. 22 LR has to be like some kind of round, right, lead round, 22 caliber lead round. I don't know.

I'm not sure. We're showing our Canadian hair. I've never even held a gun. I have no idea. I've fired it. gun. My uncle in Italy has a shooting gallery in his basement. Nice. Very nice. Very nice. We had so many fucking guns. You just go there and shoot away. So much fun. And Sean Summers writes in for 21,000 and 21 sats.

Twan from 256 heat will be at the Niagara Bitcoin meetup this Wednesday. Love it. And he gives the website, Niagara BTC.com. Yeah. I think Sean runs that meetup, I'm pretty sure. So, Twan obviously, sponsor, half sponsor at this show, I guess. He's, I mean, did you see his Stormtrooper variant on Twitter? That is fucking sick, man. Buddy, I, listen, I was just talking to Kenzie before we started doing, before we started the show tonight, my wife.

And I was telling her that I am planning on moving the gym to the, to the garage. this weekend, probably. It's starting to get cold and I, you know, I'm going to be even more pressed for time in the winter because it's going to be harder to get my little one out the door, blah, blah, blah. I don't need to tell you guys the story. But that means that I need to be able to lift weights while she's sleeping. I'm going to put this stuff in the garage.

And I have to decide whether or not I'm going to use my S-19 that's here or get a new one from Twan for the winter. I think I might get a new one from Twan, to be honest with you. And I don't know what, I think, I'll do this again during the Hamilton-Rapton Man segment. If you don't have one of these things, you have no idea what you're missing out on. It is really that simple. There's no, like, nonsense, no bullshit.

Tuan was not, you know, I think Tuan was a, I wouldn't call him a bipper, but I think he wanted 110. I won't speak for him. But do you see the email he sent out to everybody who had the miners about how to handle the 110 fork, about the changes in the pool set up? Like, he took care of all of it for you. He didn't make it a stink. He didn't make it political.

didn't make it anything. He just took care of all that for you and sent you all the information you needed after the fork. Like, you're just not going to see this anywhere else, man. Is Heat Bit doing this if you were using a certain pool? Like, HeatBit's not fucking calling you and emailing you and telling you how to do this. They're just not.

Tuan is the best in the business, man. You got to, you have to call him if you haven't tried the whole mining thing yet. I cannot recommend it enough. 256heat.com. That's it, joy, for the. Let's go. If you're watching us on video, stay here.

We're not going anywhere. If you're on audio listening on the podcast feed, come back tomorrow for the back half. Until next time, we will see you later. Don't be a cock.