The Canadian Bitcoiners Podcast - Bitcoin News With a Canadian Spin - The CBP #185 (Bitcoin News Stories) - Bitcoin Breaks Out Amidst Political Turmoil (Bitcoin Podcast)

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

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friends and enemies welcome back can you be corners podcast number 185 a beautiful canadian thanksgiving monday my name is joey that is land 66 for len oh it moves up quite a bit how it moves down quite a bit too yeah up and down here and there what's going on how are you how was your holiday monday that was good just busy doing stuff with family and whatnot nice yeah yeah it's getting cold now, unfortunately. Yeah, definitely. I was out there gardening today, getting the, getting the front ready for the winter. You got to pull some weeds or pull some plants out, cut some others back,

get rid of some leaves, some weeds. I'm going to have to rake my front yard pretty soon. My in-laws have more than an acre of backyard property that usually my wife, myself, and my brother-in-law go rake this year, obviously with Kenzie being just about ready to pop. We'll be down inside of hands. Munchers mow it. And by mowing it, you mulch it. Yeah, mulch it.

I've said that too, but they don't want to do that. So, you know. God bless my father-in-law. It's his property. I'll do whatever he wants. If he wants to rake, I rake. No big deal. Especially if the help is free.

And you guide them. It's back-breaking no problem. It's your back to break. I told him he should file for some LMIA help. I think they're still offering jobs. I don't think you'll be able to get anyone from India, though, because given the relationships between us and you. Not a good day.

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I would love if you guys could make a donation or share it, share this kind of widely here and help us with our donations. The Wayside walk is something we do every year, the step up for Wayside, where we raise money with the community and we get a lot of support from the city, certain local politicians who are in lockstep with us. Like I've said before on the show, I won't go into the details. It's not that sexy a cause. Men's recovery is a difficult thing to sell these days, as you might be able to imagine with some of the stuff we talk about, Len, vending machines with drugs in them and drug paraphernalia, people

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I may want to mine off the radar but anyway um go support decentral tech those guys are doing great work and grab your cdb bidx well there's still a few left if there's still a few left i really have no idea but um if you haven't grabbed one yet now is the time so boost shall we so more btc dick 500 sats he said great conversation matthew is gonna be great for bitcoin and i would edit that he is great for bitcoin right now because he's spreading the word orange killing people the right way he's not being pushy and he's not being up front sorry not like he's being up front but he's not trying to push it into people's faces he gotta do this he's providing people information people buy people use it. He's got to do this. He's providing people information. People buy, people use it.

All the more power to them. If not, have fun staying poor. But at least they're aware that they're going to be heading on that path to being poor. Definitely. Yeah, good interview. Glad he came on.

I'm sure we'll have him on in the future. Yeah, because Shirtless Summer, 500 sats, said, love Joey getting fired up about politicians, quote, working around the clock, end quote. Keep calling them out great show as always appreciate you man yeah that was um that was dumb anyway yeah crazy what's going on in the states right now doug and rup 525 sats such a smart second year undergraduate not only are they being saddled with debt, but students then have to put objectively wrong answers on exam scripts to pass their course.

No university, Bitcoin is the only money. Because he was talking about that. There was answers that had to have been provided, and he was able to provide evidence that the information was incorrect. But still, in order for him to pass the tests, to pass the exams, he had to provide the information that the professor wanted to see. Good to know. It's too bad. Just the kind of person you want teaching the youth, right?

God, it's unbelievable how far we've fallen. Joey double D three, three, three, three sats. Make sure you follow up with Matthew after a bit. This was a really great conversation.

He's a gem. Yeah. I really would like to talk to him, especially as this club gets more mature and as they draw more people in. For sure, I'd love to chat with him. He knows his stuff and he's a great discussion. He's great to chat with him.

So I'll be happy to open a door if he wants to come back on the show. I don't think he doesn't want to come on. I mean, we just got to book something in, but certainly we'll have him back on the show yeah he's not opposed we could even add him to the uh short list of potential guest hosts here um always always good to uh go outside of the podcast space to grab uh especially a guy that age that'd be that could be fun and will he swear well can we get him swearing at things you think over the course of an hour i think it's hard to do

unless you really rile him up. But I don't know if he's the type of guy you can rile up. I'm not sure either. I seem pretty even keeled. Yeah. Well, JPEG-80, we have a story here that's going to rile up people the latter half of the show. JPEG-81, 10,000 sats.

Thank you very much, JPEG-81. Listen to this one. Keep up the good work, guys. This is from your oldest listener, and you don't – you never knew it. I never heard of this guy, JPEG81. He's never made a boost. What's that? He's never made a boost, I don't think.

Or I've never communicated with him before. He says, been here since day one on Spotify. You had that one long episode, living in Hammer, Achilles issue, shaking sats, maddenedden that old car you still have complaining about the weather i will always complain about the weather when it's cold you turn me on to shake pay holding my onto my keys noster and will most likely switch to bull keep it going i love it man it's amazing like people have been listening for that long i forget sometimes the humble beginnings i mean we're still humble to be honest with you. But the humble beginnings we came from, truly like zero or damn near zero equipment.

My kitchen table, Len coming over to help me move furniture because my wife couldn't do it. Oh, I forgot about that. Yeah. Like, really, it was a different podcast then. But thanks to guys like that, you know, we've been able to grow the show and talk to some great people. We did it all the time. It was large and they just didn't do you remember do you remember how much shit we took on the bitcoin subreddit for the second episode

because the first one i think was like an hour and a half and the second one we had to break up into two recordings because i had to pee in the middle yeah and it was like four hours and we're just like wait that's not that ain't the sweet spot so we gotta probably learn and even then we still evolved. Now we're like, what, like an hour? It's an hour. It's an hour and 40, but we even, even still, we cut the episodes in half. So, you know, I think it's about the right time.

What do you guys think? I don't know. Like, I never really asked about what you guys think of the length of the shows and how we cut it. I know we, everybody wanted us to cut the CW part, which we now call notable stories. And let's do seven equal, uh,'s do seven equal episodes, one per day. I don't know if that's even possible. Is that good for the algo?

I have no idea. I don't think it is. I got to mention, Jordab pointed something out to me today that I noticed as well. Something's going on. We use a software program to do our shorts. So I go in there and do a little light editing and add some AI stuff for the real autists out there. And something's wrong with the audio.

It doesn't match the video. So if you're watching on silent, the text is fine. The text makes sense, but the captions with the sound don't match. So I will look into that for this week's shorts when I make them tomorrow or the next day. But yeah, if you've been noticing that, then don't worry i've also just just just last week it started okay so i'm pretty sure behind the scenes whoever's providing us the service don't want to name that them because they've been pretty good so far they have been yeah and uh i don't really have any problems with um with the the app so i don't know i'll figure it out or using uh it's you know it's a web app

let's say yeah okay all right that's it for me i'm not sure if you want anything else you want to um you're on the interview again this week sly is on tomorrow night sly goomba yeah no not tomorrow it's wednesday wednesday sorry yeah okay yeah that should be good i'm looking forward to that i was on jeff's show uh jeff and doug back when they were doing it together the why bitcoin show and uh i've always liked jeff he's one of my you know long time sort of twitter follows twitter Jeff's show, Jeff and Doug, back when they were doing it together, the Why Bitcoin show. And I've always liked Jeff. He's one of my longtime Twitter follows, Twitter mutuals. Good Bitcoiner. He's come such a long way. I listened to him on high hash rate the other day, or I think he did it two weeks ago, maybe, or something like that.

And I don't listen to every high hash rate, but I like Jeff, so I listened. He has come so far with the way he thinks, the way he speaks, and the questions and responses that he is able to formulate on the spot. That's a product of two things, I think. One is spending time in Bitcoin, getting smarter with this stuff. But the other, honestly, since you and I have done this as well, I think, is being on a mic. Being on a mic and sending stuff out into the ether for people to critique and give feedback on, there's no better way to improve. And he's obviously improved.

So I'm looking forward to hearing you guys chop it up. I might even stop in if I have time Wednesday. I might come by too. I think I'm free, but I'm not sure. I hope he comes big because I think he was on a high hash rate podcast. I'm not sure if that made it better or worse. But the end of that show is always funny because people are just not talking. There's not much talking going on.

In their head, they are. There's a conversation going on and it's deep. But we're not hearing it, unfortunately. That's the problem. That's the anxiety spiral. We need to smoke and chill. For anybody that has not listened to High Hats, please do so. It's a really cool podcast.

Ben and Mike do a great job. And they've been on this show, too. They've both been been on here we've been on their show as well they're they're a good podcast i really like a high hash rate yeah all right that's it and that's just like one last thing you want to talk about let's hit it man i'm ready what do you want to start all right well let's go right away to what made headlines in bitcoin this past week which hbo the documentary came and went and it's made a lot of headway leading up down what a letdown did you watch it i didn't i saw the clip of the i mean give the summary give the summary then we'll talk about it we'll talk about it well that for me i

too haven't watched it i don't plan on watching it and it's not like i'm better than it it's just i really don't have the time i'm not going to learn anything from it from what i understand so it probably won't provide me the same type of thrill or fun or whatever that i just don't just don't watch it so if you have any listening or watching all the more power to you but the people behind this documentary they made a big revelation and you believe that peter todd may be satoshi and you shared a stage with peter right and back yeah we had dinner with him too he was at the steak dinner last year at the conference i'm pretty sure so that was a 2023 version of the conference right okay no 24 no 24 he was we were on stage together we were on stage together at 23 and then this year i this year i didn't mc

and he i think was at the steakhouse with me, Mark, Lepard, the Bull Bitcoin guys, a dozen other people who are all good Bitcoiners. I think he was there as well. And so he came out after hearing this, and he debunked the notion that he's Satoshi. He posted this on X. So take that for what it's worth. So really just a huge waste of time i guess but the hype was real and a bunch of people started talking about bitcoin on x and i'm sure this turned a lot of people into looking what is bitcoin because hbo is a very big company they put out i guess

quality products with air quotes compared to other things but even mainstream media was talking about, like CNN was writing articles about this documentary after the fact. It could have been even leading up to it. I don't know. But in terms of that, there's, I guess, some positive that is turning some eyes towards Bitcoin. And there was this article that I'm referencing from CNN. I'm going to quote this. It says that Todd accused the film of being irresponsible and putting his life in danger 100 agree so yeah you believe what that statement there's truth to that right so yeah if that's the

case the people at hbo and the director or whoever's behind this documentary should be ashamed themselves and oh peter an apology i know that guy is a dorian nakamoto that they thought was yeah the asian fellow there right because he had the same last name oh good connection journalism they're real good digging the theory was he was going to be in i guess the silicon valley and so there's a few things that just came out that pointed it to him but they heard the media harassed him and his family too yeah to the point where he had to debunk and show his card as when his photos on tv and i'm not him right it's not me and so forth but either way you know in one respect good for peter but another

like it sounds like there's going to be some problems he's gonna have to deal with for people that believe this documentary to be true and the information is providing to be truthful but in the end i like i don't care what anybody says i i'm not changing the name from bitcoin and sats to bitcoin and pete's to me it's always going to be bitcoin and sats i don't give a shit who the fuck pete's pete's and todd's we got a couple of pete's and todd's i think we'll never change it. To me, it's always going to be Bitcoin and stats. Isn't the problem though, you did a great job summarizing that. The documentary is irresponsible.

It's poorly researched. And the one reason I do want to watch is because apparently they come out with a short list to kind of go through the reasons for and against each person. Among them, Len Sassaman, Adam Back, Nick Sabo, Sabo, however you say his last name. There's a few other big names on there who I think are more likely Satoshis than Peter Todd, if for no other reason than because Peter Todd was born in 1990. So are you telling me that

as much of a genius, I guess, as Peter Todd is, I mean, he's a longtime Bitcoin core contributor. This guy was doing this at 17 or 18. Is that what you're telling me? I doubt it, honestly, number one. Number two, the problem with naming this guy in this environment, Len, how many times do we talk about dumb shit like unrealized capital gains tax? If someone in some political party, there's only one political party that would do this, by the way, in any major party, there's only one political party that would do this, by the way, in any major country, only one side of the aisle would do this. If they decide that they want to charge unrealized gains on something that has appreciated by,

I don't know, 400 billion percent since its inception on the back of some research done by some clown who works for HBO. No one is concerned about that. People should be concerned about that, number one. And then you mentioned too, that when you think about the danger this guy's in now, do you know what a million Bitcoin are worth? What is it? $6.5 billion, something like that? More than that, maybe? I'm not sure exactly what the number would be. Probably a significant amount more. But the problem with naming someone is there's insane people all over the place. As if you didn't know this, by the way, HBO, HBO has produced many documentaries about many different insane people over the course of history. They produce television shows modeled after insane people that

exist in the real world. And now they're making this guy the target of similar people. HBO should, he should sue HBO is what he should do. Don't you think? Isn't that the rational next step for him? He should sue the fucking pants off those guys. Honestly. It's going to be settled out of court.

It's never, whatever. Yeah. You're right. Take their money. Yeah. Take their money. The next course of action. It's billion dollars uh 65 billion yeah sorry what

did i say that's yeah that's at 65 000 so obviously that's this is it's crazy like this guy is unfair being unfairly targeted and him and adam adam back is just kind of trying not to laugh during the last scene if you haven't seen the scene where the cameraman, you know, so self-assuredly, he is so foolhardy in his assertions and the way he basically is like acting in an accusatory manner toward Todd about this is why we think you're Todd. You've said this on a privacy thing. And I think the biggest, the biggest anchor point in his argument is that he thinks peter todd forgot to change his account to the anonymous satoshi account for another post or for one of the posts and left it on his account in uh 09 or 2010 whatever year it was and so like you know that's pretty loose although you know in defense of the hbo guy we have found a couple of great burners

that way uh brian colangelo former 76ers gm and also kevin durant uh famously petty nba superstar so no we have we have made discoveries this way in the past but i don't think that a guy a true boy genius as the hbo documentary suggests is first of all, making these mistakes. But also, there's just no real evidence. Like, it's all circumstantial at best. It's meant to get clicks. You know, this documentary, by the way, would never have come out if Bitcoin was $20,000, $30,000. You know, it comes out near an all-time high.

It comes out when interest is peaked. And the filmmaker, as far as I know, has no background in Bitcoin or crypto. So why? It's just just it's clickbait it's you know engagement imagine the thumbnail if this was a youtube video the guy's facing like that we got to get one of these thumbnail boys to make us uh a thumbnail for peter todd being satoshi i don't want to get involved fire in the background yeah it's what atlantic it only costs like a thousand bucks a month to get someone to make thumbnails for youtube no no i i just don't want to do anything to do with this documentary or add any more problems to same god bless peter man he's taking it he's taking it largely in stride but he's got a right to be upset if he

wants to be yeah so like anybody that wants to harass him for this i mean quote unquote harass him don't bother leave the dude alone he's just a regular guy totally nice guy too man talked to him a few times um yeah very very nice fella see el salvador today came out with some news oh and by the way on top of this should mention do you remember what he gave his slide presentation on um last year? No. On how Craig Wright was suing him and all the reasons that Craig Wright was not Satoshi. He explained that he couldn't sign certain transactions on certain coins. He couldn't prove and that it was part of the Bitcoin ethos. You have to be able to prove things. And he went through the technicals of how Craig could prove he was Satoshi any number of different ways, but he couldn't. And Peter was being sued by the guy over his claim.

Now, obviously, you know, validated that he wasn't Satoshi Nakamoto that Craig was not Satoshi Nakamoto. And so like to put, like, I just think it's, unless, unless there's like some kind of weird, you know, galactic force operating here that is causing me to have some kind of blind spot i just don't think this is likely at all all the things i know point is to the opposite you know okay and the reality is we'll probably never find out because it's right so long we probably have a better chance of finding who's the the driver of the white

humber from wcw we'll never find out who's the satoshi have you been watching uh the wrestling documentary the big man documentary are you going to i might it's i don't know so good i didn't watch the last one tonight my wife only made it through two yesterday did you know that when owen hart this is way off the beaten path but we have to talk about this you brought up wrestling so i'm going to pin this on you do you know why did you know that when owen hart died in the ring fell from the rafters okay his safety vest failed he splattered all over the place in the ring he hit his his neck there was blood there was blood everywhere and and they they have the video not of him falling there is no video of him falling because they were blacked out

right and uh so there's no like camera and also the live audience didn't see so they didn't see they didn't see many they talked to a bunch of wrestlers last night and they go against mcmahon's version of events a lot in this show but they all agreed that the fans didn't see what happened in attendance i think they did see it because there's pictures they didn't see it and there is no pictures this is another thing i looked up no our pictures no they're pictures of him on the mat correct nothing but no nothing of him falling so all the fans saw was remember we didn't have smartphones over exactly exactly did you know that after that they finished the event correct yeah that is insane that is insane some of the cameras some of the videos

they had of the event like from the recording where people are trying to like be the heel or be the baby face behind like they're crying they're legitimately crying there's women and grown men and women trying to act apart and they are in tears because this guy just had his corpse wheeled by them and because he was a unique individual, right? Like without going too far into it, he didn't, he didn't have enemies. He pissed people off because he pranked them, ribbed them, so to speak, sometimes excessively, but he didn't have enemies. He was a cool dude.

In fact, he didn't want to stay there very long. He wanted to just get his money, get out and live his life. It just never happened. Fate intervened and he suffered an accident. It was the coat that he was wearing, the cape. It snagged the harness. It failed or something, yeah. Well, it snagged the hook.

So as he was moving, it just released him, and he fell. It was something like 35 feet. No, that's okay. So that's not what happened. The documentary, WWE ended up suing the manufacturer of the vest and won. The manufacturer, there was a defect in the vest. They knew there was a defect in the vest. I was always under the impression it was.

You have to watch this doc. You have to. It's got all the big names. They go through era by era. I never even liked wrestling. It is so good. So well done. Is it an HBO documentary done by this Cullen dude?

No, no. It's on Netflix and it's done by Bill Simmons, who's a polarizing figure in sports, but at the very least a bit of a historian. So yeah, anyway, that's Canadian Bitcoiners wrestling corner there. We're not going to do that. Let's talk about, You brought up Stephen Wright. That's right, Craig Wright.

And let's talk about him because he filed a lawsuit against BTC Developers and Square. Two Squares. So the core developers in Square. This was filed on October 10th. So just this past week, the estimated value of this claim is 911

billion pounds. So how did he come up with this number joey he almost is dr evil 1 trillion pounds right so it's apparently there is some logic behind this he's saying that it's the market value the difference between btc and bsv so that's what he's claiming at the time of filing as for the lawsuit. He says the financial impact of misrepresentation and resulting market loss is what caused him to submit this claim. So I'm just going to go on a bit of a tangent here, because for anybody that's out there that's running a node, you have to give thanks to the people that fought the block size ward or small blockers because you can run a node with a one terabyte hard drive and with pretty meager hardware you could do it with a raspberry pi four gigabyte or even eight gigabytes that's just you know very cheap so i'm thankful and everybody should be thankful for some people fighting for people like us that we could run it because if you look at bsc's bsv's blockchain size it is 10 petabytes right now this is not easy to you cannot run your own from home

you got to outsource the trusting or verification of the uh any transaction to a quote unquote trusted third party. So either way back to the lawsuit, the question I have is who the fuck is bankrolling this dude? Because this is another case that he's filing. And I thought the person, the money bags that was associated with him, Calvin Air has part of the ways. Where is he at these days? Yeah. After the ruling earlier this year he decided to just disappear altogether and we haven't heard from him since so i i suspected at that time they

cut bait with craig wright because in fact if you go look on youtube you can't find anything to do with craig wright it's attached to anything like bsv or n-chain or all that shit they just basically erased it so it was almost like they're trying to delete like BSV or Nchain or all that shit. They just basically erased it. So it was almost like they're trying to delete the history of this. So I assumed at that time they just went their separate ways. But somebody's bankrolling this. And also the lawsuit claims that the introduction of Segwit,

which this allowed for stuff like the Lightning Network, it's deviated from the original protocol and it's added confusion to the market. I guess the free market requires some sort of guidance because, you know, apparently the free market on its own is not good enough. Craig Wright would like to see some sort of guidance on this.

In the end, what a joke, but the core developers yet again got to go through this. And also Square is included, Square UK or Square Europe. Why? What is this guy doing? It's over, man. This litigation thing is getting tired fast, really fast. It is. I wouldn't be going after Square either. Dorsey has proven a few times at least that he's willing to bankroll anything that is

potentially harmful to bitcoin the developers the asset you name it he's not afraid to uh open the jackbook yeah that's a great point that he'll he'll make sure that people are gonna have the right and a very good legal team behind them i don't know what's the purpose of this but it's still making bitcoin core developers i don't want to say life a living hell, but anxious, though, for sure. Right? Yeah. It's one more thing you got to deal with, as opposed to including with all the other

bullshit we have to deal with in our daily lives. So this guy is going to be a thorn for some time moving forward. And according to the courts, he's not Satoshi Nakamoto. He can't sue me for that because that's according to the court. I'm just quoting what they said. So if he doesn't like it he should take take uh take up with the ruling and try to appeal that which i think he did he did i i have no i have no real comment to that boomer in the chat you know echoing sentiment that i'll share right now uh i'm sick of hearing about this guy i don't want to hear about him anymore craig right you know it's funny how hbo

did all this investigating and he never showed up on Craig Wright, you know? It's funny how HBO did all this investigating and he never showed up on the list. So, you know, like, is he going to sue them next? No, it is me. I am him. The courts did their job for them. They didn't have to go down that path. Not sure if you saw, but El Salvador today,

there was a new initiative that they've launched. It's a pioneering technical Bitcoin education program. And it's called Node Nation, Node Nation. And it's an initiative that is being spearheaded by the Bitcoin office over there in El Salvador. And the goal is actually pretty cool. It's trying to make Salvadorians more sovereign and tech savvy. And this should be something that other nations should do there. Because let's be honest is is that type of initiative being done in other parts of the world like i don't know man this is aimed

at high schoolers so they're targeting people between the ages of 15 and 17 so they have they should have some computer literacy and they're able to absorb information and it's going to be implemented in the uh year five uh sorry throughout the year in five public schools in el salvador so right now just five public schools are going to take it right now but there's gonna be weekly lessons and the attendees are gonna go through concepts and processes that they must know how to operate a bitcoin node and a lightning node successfully running a lightning node successfully does take some competency and some skill and attention. A Bitcoin node,

just set it up and leave it be for the most part. There's nothing you have to do aside from making sure that the computer has all the security and critical updates, but a lightning node is not like that. You have to do channel balancing and there's some management that's going to be along, going along with it. And this is really cool that they're spearheading kids,

young kids to learn about this, them learn they could take this information with them perhaps even share it with their elders their parents friends whatever it should spreads and it gets better and now you have a competent group of people that understand bitcoin i don't know how this is a bad thing this is a really cool initiative by the bitcoin office i love it our high school kids here are learning about fake historical grievances, humiliation rituals related to all sorts of nonsense that is basically fabricated, failing all standardized tests, teachers blaming, of course, the formatting of the test.

Couldn't possibly be that teachers aren't doing a good job. Meanwhile, in what they would call and probably what most modern governments would call a developing nation, a third world nation, they're teaching technical literacy and in a way, financial literacy as well, thanks to the Bitcoin spin. What are these guys getting wrong? Not much. Article obviously came out, I think, the other day about El Salvador's reduction in crime rate. El Salvador locked up many criminals, became one of the safest countries on the planet, but at what cost? Like, okay. There's no way that any democratic first world, quote unquote, quote unquote, first world

that that term is becoming more and more loosely applied. I think for a lot of these countries, unfortunately, um, there's no way any of these guys will ever admit that El Salvador is getting it right. And they're getting it wrong, right? There's just no way the sunk cost is too great. The delusion over, uh, you know know impossible to overcome at this point and uh you know people are distracted man they're distracted by all sorts of stuff i was at a thanksgiving dinner on the weekend and you know there's a lot of talk about politics and i just you know for the first time maybe not maybe not the first time but this is the first presidential elections like or i'm just abstaining altogether i just there's no point in talking to anybody

about politics it's uh it's theater more than anything. Meanwhile, countries that are not wrapped up in this sort of thing and want to improve their standing, both in terms of helping equip their youth and getting out from under the thumb of phony international support organizations like the IMF. El Salvador, great example. You know what I am surprised by though, Len? We've been talking about El Salvador, great example. You know what I am surprised by, though, Len? We've been talking about El Salvador for three years on this show. How many other countries are really following their lead? Not many, right? Seems to be a pretty simple playbook to follow.

Round up criminals. Don't let them out of jail. And teach your kids about the sort of future monetary standard that's developing before our very eyes here. Haven't seen any follow-ups from other countries, I don't think. Certainly not at that level. So I'm not sure what the holdup is. I would imagine there's something to be said about political pressure from the West not to do so, even though it's clearly a model that works.

But otherwise, I don't know why you don't see more of it. In a democratic society, it's difficult to implement. In an authoritarian government, you can't get away with this and so they probably have been doing this all along which is why you don't hear about it but in a democratic it's just you know it's just probably very very difficult to implement such as such a thing but just the reality is el salvador they have and i don't want to to diminish where they came from but they were like a third world country yeah right like they were struggling in terms of uh their economic their economics and also safety in terms of their citizens now you look at them man like they've not

only caught up to some western nations with respect to security and other things but now they're fucking lapping them and they've done it in a short order with very little resources just because they're able to put in place a plan and stick to it it's for the people that were impacted it sucks to be them but let's be honest they were almost surely criminals yeah i'm sure that net they threw there's probably a few people that were captured in it that probably shouldn't have been captured but for the most part it's been really good you hear stories about people walking san salvador at night and they feel comfortable doing that try doing that here in canada and so you can't be done can't be right and so this is el salvador like say that 10 years ago it's insane you'd be

laughed at for that how things have changed in a very short period of time and it's i'm not saying it's because of bitcoin that's probably the least of the reasons why this has happened but they just be took aim they've gotten rid of all the garbage that was there yeah we yeah good for them you can't do it here is a good it's a good data point right you can't walk around downtown hamilton at night alone sure certainly not if you're a female um definitely in toronto forget about it can't be toronto's like land of the zombies now we've talked about san francisco chicago you name it um and you mentioned there are democratic societies being unwilling to do it what does that say about the nature of the people who are voting and proposing policy?

It's both on the electorate and the elected, I think, this failure. I continue to slide toward we should not be letting everybody vote. And I don't know how you fix it. Maybe you get to vote if you have a certain amount of assets or you have a certain professional standing or whatever. But clearly, everybody should not be allowed to vote. We're going the wrong direction. There's really no... There is no doubt about that.

So we have to consider these things. Yeah, go ahead. You see the people driving in Toronto these days. Crazy. A lot of people going the wrong direction. Crazy, yeah. So you're talking about giving people... Dude, there was a...

This is sort of semi-tangentially related to the story about um you know how you were just saying that certain things here are just not doable even though they're doable in el salvador there was a a turf war between two high schools that wound up with a chase on the lincoln alexander expressway on the weekend 15 year old kid got killed they rolled this car that was a chase it was suv right that roll yeah it was a chase uh i just thought it was speeding and that was it absolutely insane the hamilton police department twitter account has you know some updates on it they arrested some 18 year old kid 18 year old you know in a turf war with 15 year olds you can sort that one out yourself but like nothing going on here really

looks that promising and you know we talk a lot about like house prices and asset inflation and people eating Cheerios and widget buyers or whatever, right? Like these people are all stupid too, but there seems to be a growing number of people who are stupid and don't know it. And, you know, for someone who's, you know, I'm not saying I'm a genius or anything, but I think you and me, Len, people listen to and watch this show. You know, I think probably our families and a few of our friends too can see that this is sliding the wrong way, but there's no real fix because you're always voting against this monolithic group that is so tribal, doesn't know anything about policy, doesn't know anything about other options. I was told on the weekend there's some Trump movie

coming out and a number of people I was eating dinner with weekend, there's some Trump movie coming out. And a number of people I was eating dinner with, they're like, oh, Trump doesn't want the movie to be released. He's scared of it. I had never even fucking heard of this movie. I still haven't seen anything about this movie anywhere. I forgot to look it up. But are you telling me there's an entire group of people who think that there's not only a movie coming out, but that Trump is worried about the movie and that this movie could swing the vote. Like that person can't be allowed to vote because they just, they simply cannot be allowed to vote.

Like it's, it's, it's an admission of failure on your point to become an informed citizen. Is it not? And like, you see this all over the place. And so when you, when you talk about, yeah, El Salvador was able to do this because it's dictatorial. That's one way to put it but maybe el salvador was actually able to do it because they're ruled by a great man you know like i'll go back they shouldn't be allowed to fucking drive whatever more of an impact number of things right but like i'm just saying

and i'll also note boomer again you know in the chat reminding me about something the the number of people i see now talking about how you, if you can't squat, at least your body weight, you can't vote. I like that. That might be better than the two 25 because then the 350 pound guys have to squat three 50 and, uh, are, are sort of, uh, less, well, less, uh, you know, well-endowed, uh, weightlifting brethren and, and, uh, sisters can squat a little less. There's something to that. Sure as shit, the idea that if you think, you know, like unknown film projects are going to swing a vote with like, what is it, three weeks away?

I mean, that's not an informed voter. And you see countries where there's an understanding by the leadership that not everything can be left to a public debate there are certain things that are just good locking up criminals and making things safe is good you know like that's a good thing to do right now the thing which they did in el salvador critics will say that they locked them up without due cause it was just simply an assumption but let's be honest if you have some sort of marking on your body and it's very well associated with particular gang for sure for sure it's hard to say that yeah this person is not i was that was old me that was the old but that's the thing you deal with in a democratic society

you got to go through a process it's you're innocent until proven guilty and at the time when you are guilty you've conducted some sort of crime and at that point harm has been done and you can't undo that harm because you know somebody may have lost their life or whatever and so how could you undo that so it just goes to the fact you have to have somebody come in with an iron fist and say this is the way to do things but it's not going to happen in places like canada united states uk wherever it will it will at some point right history tells you that it will at some point the question is when correct how difficult will the transition be correct but at that particular moment it's it's gone past a point of no return you're living in a society that is truly

lawless and dealing with cash probably is not going to be a barter system. There's going to be some good or maybe Bitcoin that you could use as a way of medium of exchange. So really, at that point, it's long gone. I would suggest make plans before that, whatever plan it may be for you. I don't know what it is for me and execute it. You have some time before it's gonna eventually hit the fan you don't want to be scrambling at that time because other people are gonna be scrambling too and you'll be lost in the masses now it's time to take action do things and do whatever you got to do yeah could

get really bad really fast yeah i agree maybe not yeah all right mempool let's talk about mempool because they've been taking well they've been taking some flack this week because it was revealed that their blockchain explorer has been displaying stuff like ordinal data so in a nutshell the operaturn data is associated with stuff like runes inscriptions slash ordinals and shit like that so that's being displayed or decoded on the explorer when you type in a specific transaction that contains that information so all this to be said like i don't think i really give a fuck for the most part they they can include the lens in

their product and it can be used to view ordinals or ruin shit but like you know mempool came out they tried to clarify that and i'm going to try to paraphrase what they said so it's not exactly what they said but i'll do my best they do not support or damon integration and if there is an ordinal or inscription stuff like that they want people to see what's on the blockchain furthermore they don't support shit coins but i get what you're saying but there's one key aspect they're missing here brc20 tokens you know these utilize ordinals inscriptions as a way to mint these shit coins and thus the inclusion of this searchable information in one way shape or another shows that they may be supportive of shit coins i think but for people i would have to say that run your own node

and this really bothers you there are alternatives out there but it's difficult and mempool seems to be the bread and butter if you run your own node i do that but my mempool doesn't show that so maybe that's the way to do is just run your own version of mempool that excludes all this ordinal shit but if you don't have one you have to use some sort of blockchain explorer there are alternatives out there if you want to vote with your wallet so to speak or vote with your um with your packets and one would be mempool.guide that is one blockchain explorer the other one is blockstream.info both the two of those two that i've mentioned exclude the lens in that you can see the ordinal shit so it seems to be they're getting a

lot of flack but you know what like i say vote with your packets do something else try to run a competing version if you want there are options out there you can voice your displeasure in a number of different ways i just don't care about this like mempool that space it's it's i think to a lot of people and you know we use it for this more frequently than anything else on this show it's a fee calculator you know like bull bitcoin is a fee calculator if you want to use that use that but like as far as like ordinals and brc20s and should we include it should we be able to view it and explore it and all these things like it is on the chain you know if you want to see what's on the chain then whether you like this stuff or not there's something to the idea that you should be able

to use a service that advertises itself as a block explorer to explore the blocks the people who are saying you shouldn't be able to do this to your point yeah run your own that doesn't do that i mean whatever it's fine i don't really care like this is this is an example of like bitcoiners getting riled up over nothing i think no well yes and no the one thing like i said they may say they don't support these shit coins brc20 tokens they're shit coins yeah oh yeah so you can't you can't say one thing and then do something else which negates exactly what you said that anyway everybody knows what that is yeah and that's what they are so right like if you don't like it i don't have like i don't i don't have like a i'm not gonna i just don't like people that just do that that say one thing yeah but like these guys isn't isn't the

isn't the sort of like second order effect here people realizing that mempool.space is more or less inconsequential like just use a different block explorer who cares what these guys are doing your own yeah whatever like you know there's many there's many ways to do this if you don't like what they're doing just ignore these guys they don't they don't they're not part of they're not part of the required bitcoin stack you know like just go somewhere else who cares yeah but we should hold them account we should you're right we should for what they say exactly correct correct a btcd those are the alternate bitcoin node we talked about it last week it's the around 36 node runners

out there from from what i gather they can now breathe a sigh of relief because the information about the vulnerability that was talked about has finally been disclosed. And it appears this is only impacting people that are running version 0.24.2. And unless I'm wrong, 0.24.2 came out in June of this year, right? So let's go down this path, right? So it makes me wonder one of two things. They either stumbled into a way of fixing this deficiency without them knowing and just now they figured it out and they decided to release it and you know just by mistake they fixed it and you know it was just god's grace i guess or they knew about it all along

and they decided not to disclose it for the past four months where you put your chips where you put your chips i say they fucking didn't want to see shit, right? So as far as what is wrong, they say that Bitcoin clients were not correctly re-implemented the Bitcoin Core's find and attack functionality. And essentially, it could create a chain split. I don't want to get into this. It could create a chain split, and it could easily be done by somebody that has no hash rate.

No hash, sorry. They could just simply send a transaction, a standard transaction where to find and delete doesn't return a match. And boom, these modes are then they're going to do a chain split and that creates havoc. So if you have faith in this product, after hearing that, imagine storing your personal wealth in Bitcoin and you're relying on this to verify your transactions. I would have serious repercussions using it moving forward. But we have to have alternatives. I like having alternatives. Alternatives are great to have. We could build on that. And bugs exist too.

Let's be honest here. Bugs exist in software. Software is never bug free. So the fact that one exists is in my eyes acceptable. What isn't acceptable is how they dealt with this. I think they would sitting on this information for four months. Plus this was released in June. This last node, this last software, which means they were working on it prior.

Could it be working on a March, April, May? I don't know. So it could be more than four months that they knew about it, but just now they're disclosing it. I think that's kind of bullshit. If you ask me, and you think it's kind May, I don't know. So it could be more than four months that they knew about it, but just now they're disclosing it. I think that's kind of bullshit if you ask me. Kind of.

You think it's kind of? I think it's, like you said, pretty dicey, man, to be using any of this stuff. We talked about this before on the sort of core dev side, but this is another good example. This is Bush League development behavior. This is no longer a Bush League asset. Get on board, have some real

standards for disclosures or stop. Stop wasting people's time. Stop harming people who are willing to give your software a try. I hear what you're saying about alternatives and whatnot, but alternative doesn't just mean another set of software. It has to actually work. It has to actually be reliable. The team has to be reliable and accessible and transparent and they're none of those things you know that's sort of the i mean we're speculating obviously but all signs point to yes you know as the magic eight ball would say you can't use this stuff i i was nuts man there's a place and time for testing these sorts of things but it ain't at you know 1.2 trillion market cap on the way to a new all time high. That's for sure.

66, five. That's not too bad, right? It's not, it's not, it's not six, six,

five. It's 66. One. I'm you're always behind. You're always behind. What is it? Yeah. Many of your refresh frequency is too low.

You're trying to save power over. Yours is the same thing. I looking at yours behind. probably. Yeah. I don't know. Mine says 65. Don't put me in this boat we're in this boat together buddy let's start paddling to get back to shore ethiopia they're using their excess energy to mine bitcoin this news we talked about it back in february when it was announced that

some of the electricity that's being generated from their newly minted it's called the grand ethiopian renaissance dam and while they're using some of the excess energy to mine bitcoin 120 megawatts went live at that time for a data center this past week we learned that they have ramped up operations to 600 megawatts in total and if that wasn't enough more electricity will be will be diverted in the future to bitcoin mining that'll be done later this year although it has not been discl't enough, more electricity will be diverted in the future to Bitcoin mining that will be done later this year. Although it has not been disclosed how much more electricity. But right now, what's EBP?

Ethiopian Bitcoin Podcast. Let's do that. Let's do that. And 600 megawatts is a sizable amount of electricity. And they're going to be ramping up even further so ethiopia has joined countries like bhutan and el salvador to start mining bitcoin with their excess electricity and just like el salvador and bhutan the energy that's being sourced here that's being generated is in green in nature so those environmentalists out there that are saying you know they're just

trying to stir the the the FUD pot. They got to, you know, they got to do something else unless they're going to keep getting funded by shit coiners like Ripple. And so Greenpeace is going to do that thing. But the reality is this is green energy that's being done. So, like, how could you say anything wrong? report indicated that ethiopia only utilized approximately five percent of the 4.9 gigawatts of hydroelectric power it generated since 2021 that's because 51 of the population has access to electricity so i don't think we're going to be doing the ebp because there's going to be too many people to have electricity live chat the live chat will be kind of slow it'll be very dry

just a while unless it's wet from the dam itself. And the number, 4.9 gigawatts, that's going to be going up as more electricity generation stations go online. So that is a lot of excess electricity that's going to be used either to be sold to countries abroad or neighboring countries or to power Bitcoin miners. I'll have to say rest in peace to publicly traded Bitcoin miners that strictly deal with Bitcoin mining because stuff like this is going to make those strictly Bitcoin miners that don't generate their own power, they're going to be made

obsolete over time. Also, I wonder how much longer before Ethiopia decides to get into the AI or other type of data center model because it seems to be rather lucrative in some cases. And if they could generate more revenue doing that, it only makes financial sense to do that. So not to say that this is a good or bad thing,

it's just a reality. It's the highest bidder wins. And if somebody can provide better value for them, all the more power to them. But ultimately, it sounds like Bitcoin is going to be the answer. It may not be right away, but in the long run, it is. And there's going to have a lot of power that they're going to have to push for to to dedicate towards mining bitcoin ethiopia is going to be a big player here in the end big

big big opportunity for countries that have excess power stranded energy you name it right we've used so many different terms to describe this sort of uh the sort of thing you need to get into bitcoin mining or you know as you mentioned maybe ai in the future who knows i i like this story because He uses so many different terms to describe the sort of thing you need to get into Bitcoin mining. Or as you mentioned, maybe AI in the future. Who knows? I like this story because Ethiopia is another sort of third world. I know that's not the politically correct term, but like developing nation that could use a bit of a stilt, let's say, to give themselves a boost. To give themselves a leg up in terms of their global standing.

And I know that Bitcoin alone won't do it, but the thing that people don't consider is that when you're running a country like Ethiopia or you're sort of, what's the best way to put this? I'll try and be politically correct. They've basically been buried by a combination of their own sort of incompetence over the years. And also they haven't really had a lot of support from the first world. There's a lot of exploitation and the relationship between modern democratic nations and much of Africa, much of Asia, much of India. It hasn't been a quality relationship going both ways, let's say, to put it lightly. When you establish a program like this, where you can use your own hydropower to mine Bitcoin, it doesn't just give you Bitcoin. It gives you competence in large-scale power operations. It gives you competence in large-scale civil service.

It gives you competence in a number of things that are, you know, I don't want to say critical, but certainly important in terms of the pathway from third world to first world nation that a lot of these countries just don't have any other opportunity to learn. How are they going to learn those things, right? It seems almost impossible at this point to bridge that gap. So this is huge, man. And like I said before, I'm surprised more countries are not doing this. I expect it to change, obviously. And I agree with you that many of the miners who don't produce their own power will find themselves with a share price of zero, maybe even faster than Torstar. But for the foreseeable future, I expect to see more countries getting into this sort of thing at this level beginner scale and you know building out from there once they realize not only how easy

it is but how number goes up so let's stay tuned we'll talk a number go up in just a second and boom dust makes an excellent point is that mining could help ethiopia build out electricity for sure great great point that's exactly the point i'm trying to make, Boomer. You said it better. Yeah. Yeah. So imagine that. Imagine when it comes time where the population could tap into it and it's already there. They already have the power being generated.

That's awesome. And that's a great, great initiative and incentive to do this. Not just a financial incentive, but also it's going to benefit their citizens as a whole. Huge. That's the last thing because you're talking about number go up because bitcoin mining is uh something we should be talking about because if you look at the hash rate obviously it's been going up going up especially when you look at public pool it was disclosed that public pool now has more hash right now than the entire bitcoin network had 11 years ago in October 2013. That's incredible.

This is even more impressive, Joey, because if you understand that public pool is made up entirely of bid axes, all the bid axes that are pointed to public pool right now make more hash rate than did the entire Bitcoin network in October 2013. And from what I could tell, bitcoin mining crossed the threshold back in 2013 to get into the asics world so i could assume at that time the majority of hashers would be using stuff like fpgas and gpus maybe the odd inefficient cpu but it just goes to show you how efficient equipment has gotten over the years and people are using BIDXs, buying them and deploying them. Garage mining seems to have

undertaken some sort of renaissance, so to speak. So just a heads up, order your CBP branded BIDX from DecentralTech because it's going to be going soon. I don't think there's too many left. Get on the team and let's do it. Let's turn mine. The whole mining aesthetic has improved. soon i don't think there's too many left get on team let's do it let's remind the whole the whole

mining aesthetic has improved you know i've said this so many times that the the thing that gets people into bitcoin now when they come to my house like you know i had some friends over last weekend or two weekends ago last weekend before thanksgiving and i was showing them the studio room you know where everyone goes first they go to the madex and the block clock that's that is the thing that's the only thing they care about there's all kinds of cameras in here computers shit that's lit up all the time footballs and a bunch of other stuff they go to the madex and the block clock first every time and the aesthetic really helps people get on board they think themselves like man maybe this isn't as nerdy and geeky as i thought there's actually something going on here that's kind of cool right there's uh there's a a long-term vision here in bitcoin and uh garage

mining is part of it it's always been part of it and i think that the renaissance you know not only aesthetic as i mentioned but also uh you know ideological len i'm an extremist now i need i need uh i need john to ship me my bid ax. Like I, I think they're shipping. Are they shipping this month? I think very soon. He said middle of October, we're kind of in there. So it should be,

I'm going to reach out to him soon and see what's going on with that because I'd love to get an update on the, the shipping deadline or. So there you go. Yeah. Joey, that's it. I mean,

we can go on and on with Bitcoin. Yeah. We got, we got some bangers from our road goals. We got to share there from, uh, Kamala, Kamala campaign

in full force so hang out if you're uh on youtube spaces and uh wherever else you're streaming the show if not then we'll see you tomorrow with the other half and don't be a cuck