The Canadian Investor - Aritzia, US Banks, Domino’s and the first US listed Bitcoin ETF
Episode Date: October 21, 2021We are back with our regular schedule! In this episode we discuss the following news and earnings: Toronto having the second biggest housing bubble in the world according to UBS SEC approving the pro...shares Bitcoin Futures ETF Earnings of Aritzia, Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America, Taiwan Semiconductor, Alcoa and Domino’s Tickers of stocks discussed: BITO, ATZ.TO, GS, JPM, BAC, TSM, AA, DPZ https://thecanadianinvestorpodcast.com/ https://www.ubs.com/global/en/wealth-management/insights/2021/global-real-estate-bubble-index.html Canadian Investor Podcast Twitter: @cdn_investing Simon’s twitter: @Fiat_Iceberg Braden’s twitter: @BradoCapital See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today is October 18th.
Simon, we have not recorded a show in weeks
because I was out on the East Coast
and Simon, congratulations, is now a
married man. How are you feeling?
Yeah, I feel pretty much the same, but excited to get back to things. It was nice to get
a few weeks break from recording, that's for sure.
Yeah, there you go. Well, congrats. And on behalf of all the listeners, congratulations.
All right, let's get back into it and be easy on us. We're a bit rusty.
Before we get into an earnings episode today, we have a few shout outs on the website. You can
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which is in the show notes there, you can check out all of the content we've created and some
other fun links as well. Simon, let's get right into the news. What do you got for us first this
week? Yeah. So the first item of news, I mean, I'm sure people will know this probably already, but it came out from UBS, the Swiss bank that
Toronto has second biggest housing bubble in the world after Frankfurt. They have their own way.
Like Frankfurt, Germany?
Frankfurt, Germany. You got it. Yeah. And Vancouver is up there as well. So,
it's probably not a surprise to anyone
living in those cities that housing is extremely expensive. And we've talked about it before. I
think it's probably across the board in Canada, but even more so in Toronto and Vancouver.
And they have a way of measuring. Obviously, they looked at people, the disposable income.
And one of the things that they're saying is cities like Toronto, Frankfurt, Vancouver,
is that the increase in prices just keeps going because there seems to be a widespread expectation
that the price of houses and condominiums will just keep going up in the future. So people are
getting more and more levered to be able to buy those. And you couple that with low interest
rates and you get these type of bubbles, whether the bubble bursts or not, I mean, they've had Toronto pretty high on their index for
several years now. We'll have to see, but it was kind of interesting. And what I'll do is I'll put
the link in the show note if people want to go and have a look and see what other cities around
the world, large cities are in that same category. Yeah. Who's really shocked? Vancouver,
Toronto have some of the most ridiculous housing prices on the planet. So this coming out and
saying that we're in the top five and Toronto being the second biggest housing bubble in the
world doesn't really surprise me. I mean, it's gotten out of control. At the same time,
you could have said that for so many
years now. And it goes back to a lot of the concepts we talk about. Things might look
expensive across different asset classes or whether we're talking about housing or stocks,
but saying, oh, it's a bubble. And so then therefore prices must pop in the future.
It's just a loser's game because Simon, we know it's
impossible to predict it. Whether you're getting great value, that's a discussion, that's a debate
to be had. And I lean on this side of the value being pretty much horrendous. That being said,
that doesn't always imply that it's just going to tomorrow just pop. It's the perfect storm of interest rates and what's happening outside of that.
So I'm really not surprised.
Yeah.
And the other thing they were saying, I think the biggest surprise for them is especially in
cities, the prices kept going up even though a lot of the attractiveness of living in cities
was affected during the pandemic.
So that was one of their notes.
So it's an interesting report. I encourage people to read it. Again, take it with a grain of salt,
like Brayden said, and I've said, who knows what will happen. But to say that at the very least,
it's expensive to live in those cities and own a home. I think that's the very least we can say.
What do we got next here, Simon? I see you have another note here.
Yeah. So the next thing, I think anyone
who's following Bitcoin, even very seldomly remotely, will be able to know these news that
the SEC has approved ProShares Bitcoin Futures ETF. ProShares, they filed for its Bitcoin strategy
ETF this past summer, and they'll be the first one to launch this week. The date of the launch is actually tomorrow. So we're recording on October 18th. So beyond the 19th, this will be a Bitcoin
futures ETF. So it won't reflect the spot price of Bitcoin like the Canadian ETFs. SEC chairman
Gary Gensler said that the futures ETF would offer better protections to an investor. I respectfully disagree with him here because
we've seen what futures ETF can do and there is a lot of arbitrage involved, especially when these
futures contracts are rolled over from one one to the next. And I think it will benefit mostly
traders. So if you're interested in owning a Bitcoin ETF, definitely stay on the Canadian ETF side. There is even the USD
nominated ETF version for most of the Canadian ETFs. So if you're someone who's mostly works
in US dollars or even some of the American listeners that we have, there are some USD
options out there. This was a long time coming since the first request for an ETF came from the Winklevoss brothers back in 2013,
it was denied until obviously this week. It probably played a big part in the jump in price
of Bitcoin last week and this week as well, as there was more and more speculation that the SEC
would approve that ETF. And like I said, it can be very tricky for that futures ETF. So if you're
interested in getting into those US listed ETFs, make sure you do your due diligence because I would not recommend owning those for a long time.
Those are pretty much made for trading.
This is one of those financial products that really confuse me and do not provide any value beyond, yeah, like you said, as a trading
instrument. I mean, if you want to own Bitcoin, just own Bitcoin. And this goes with a lot of
these other financial instruments that become what I like to call further from the sun.
It gets colder as you move away from the sun. And now you're going now into a futures thing on an exchange traded fund when the underlying asset is a digital cryptocurrency.
You know what I mean?
Like this doesn't make any sense to my brain.
Yeah.
I mean, and the Canadian ones track the spot price of Bitcoin.
Of the actual asset.
Exactly. Of the actual asset. time in between but those futures etf are pretty tricky i'm with you i would not touch that if
you're an experienced trader okay by all means you probably have experience trading these before but
that's not how we invest nonetheless it was still big news and it's most likely a sign that there
will be a spot bitcoin spot price etf at some point in the near future. I think this was just the first step towards this
for the SEC. And in their view, this was safer than a spot price ETF.
Let's jump into earnings. It is the beginning of the week. Earnings season is about to heat up,
Simon. So we're going to have lots of things to talk about over the next two weeks as earnings
season picks up. However, we got some other ones to talk about
today. We got fashion, we got banking, we got a little bit of tech, and pizza. Who doesn't love
pizza, Simon? I'll kick it right in with Aritzia. The Toronto Stock Exchange listed women's fashion
company Aritzia reported Q2 of 2022. That is not a typo. They have an odd fiscal schedule,
so they are doing Q2 of 2022. Now, this woman's clothing store, Simon, is on fire.
Net revenue increased 75%. E-commerce revenue up 48.7%. The retail segment overall was an increase of 95.3%. Oh my gosh.
And comparable to COVID numbers when they were shut down, it was up 13.8%.
Gross margins of 44.6% on clothing. That's really nice to see. Do you know what Lulu's is offhand?
For the gross profit margin?
I think it's higher than that. I think it's in the 50s or 60s.
I was going to say, I think it's about 50 something. But for a clothing retailer,
44.6% is really impressive. 72 million in free cash flow. So they are producing some free cash
flow numbers. Dude, this company is killing
it and shareholders are getting rewarded. The stock is up a hundred percent year to date.
So it came across my radar recently. The stock is performing well. It's about 5 billion in
market cap on the TSX now. And I'm seeing it now. The early signs of, I really wish I listened to what people were saying about it
and noticing that people are really in love with this brand. I can see myself on this podcast,
in two years going, why didn't I pull the trigger? I did some digging this weekend,
how the store model works, the brands they own with some very complex research of basically asking my girlfriend about
100 different questions about how it works, the store, the brand more. She works in fashion and
she knows this brand and personally loves this brand a lot. So she's a good person to ask.
My thesis beyond women are obsessed with Aritzia from what I can tell is they sell high quality,
not luxury, but high quality women's fashion at about a six out of 10, maybe a seven out of 10
price-wise. It's not the cheapest, not the most expensive, but it's a good value proposition
based on the clothes they're selling. That's what I gather. Now, they own a plethora of different
brands that are sold exclusively at Aritzia. So they have these brands like Wilfred, Babaton, TNA, Denim Forum. There's
a long list of them and they're sold exclusively at Aritzia. Now, growth in the US is looking very
promising. They're executing on the growth and both from a same store sales perspective and new store openings,
it is so hard to invest in fashion. But if you're familiar with this brand,
you know it well, it trades on the TSX. It could be a long-term winner.
So this is one of those right now for me, Simon, where I'm just saying to myself,
pay attention to this type of stuff you see in your own life. The old Peter Lynch thing,
pay attention to what
people in your life are paying and spending their money on. And this one is definitely on my radar.
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products. I'm going to spend this coming February and March in an Airbnb in South Florida for a combination of work and vacation and realized, hey, my place
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forward slash host. Yeah, actually, I think someone mentioned it on Twitter and was talking
to a Canadian investor podcast Twitter. And so I looked into it a little bit. I did the same thing.
I asked my wife, which is still a weird term to say.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, your wife now.
My wife, exactly.
So, I asked her like, oh, I knew she liked the store like a few years ago.
So, I didn't know if she still liked it.
And she's like, oh, yeah.
And like I got a gift card to one of her best girlfriends.
She got her a gift card for the store just recently.
And she had the same type of, of you know said similar things to what your
girlfriend is saying and i think they're probably around based on your age i feel like they're
probably 10 year difference in terms of age so it just kind of so that's good that's good exactly
multi-generation of of appreciating it yeah exactly without saying their age and trying to
guess and getting into the dog house let's just keep it at that but i can assume they're probably
a decade apart so that's actually good to know because you have these brands like H&M that tend
to be focused a bit on the younger demographic. And obviously, the quality is not great for those.
But same for me. I have it on my watch list now. And I'll keep poking my wife's brain when it comes
to that just to get her sense if she's still going, still liking it.
Yeah, well done. And look at that, Simon.
You're noticing right out of the gate.
Already, this guy's been married for just, what, a few days now,
and he's already knowing happy wife, happy life,
trying not to get too into the doghouse.
Simon, let's talk about U.S. banks.
What do you got for us?
Yes, obviously, U.S. bank earnings are starting to actually come out quite a bit.
I won't do all of them, but I'll highlight some big lines, what we're seeing in terms of trends for those.
So I'll talk about Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, Bank of America.
So to start off, Goldman Sachs.
So obviously, Goldman Sachs is the investment bank, investment banking revenue, which is the majority of their operation, doubled to $3.7 billion in Q3 of 2021 versus last year.
That's a reflection of more financing from companies, more IPOs.
So they're big into that as an investment bank.
Overall revenues were up 27% over a year to $13.6 billion, but down sequentially versus Q2 of this year.
billion, but down sequentially versus Q2 of this year. Every segment was up except their asset management revenue, which I was a little surprised to see. Lowered the credit loss provisions year
to year, and that's something we'll see with the other two as well. Net earnings of $5.38 billion
or $14.93 a share. They have a $2 dividend per share declared for q3 they also remained
ranked number one in the world for announced and completed mergers as well as acquisitions
equity equity related offerings common stock offerings and initial public offerings so
everything seems to be going well with goldman sach. And I had tweeted something on the Canadian Investor Podcast Twitter about which company actually surprised you the most in a good way this year.
And for me, it was Goldman Sachs in terms of their returns without knowing the bank in and out.
Like they've really crushed it.
Their returns have been quite good this year.
Investment banking is crushing it across the board.
And they have been for a while now,
I want to say the last two years, IPOs are killing it. Banking, like the core banking
profits across the board are really solid. Lots of cash on the balance sheet, buying back lots
of stock, raising the dividend. Canadian banks too. I mean, things look pretty good minus the fact that
ours are being regulated a little too much, I think, in terms of being conservative about their balance sheet at this point. It's like open up the floodgates, people.
They have lots of capital available. But yeah, I mean, what's not to like about these numbers?
Yeah, exactly. So now on to the next big one, JP Morgan, which is probably a US bank disguised as a
Canadian bank.
Probably the closest thing.
They tend to be the most conservative and they have the highest asset ratio.
So the CET1 ratio that I think they have the highest amongst big US banks and it's always
really, really up there.
They're also the largest by market cap by quite a bit now, I think.
Are they?
Yeah, I haven't checked their market cap recently. Well, they have been for a while, but I was just looking at the other day,
and there was a bigger gap than I was thinking there was. And I mean, Jamie Dimon's been just
value creator on steroids, so I'm not really surprised by that. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So again,
JP Morgan, same as Goldman Sachs. So they reduced their provisions for credit loss in the quarter
by $2.1 billion.
Their revenues increased. Well, they were actually pretty much flat year over year,
increased 1% to $29.6 billion. Net income increased 24% year over year to $11.7 billion or $3.74
per share. That is in line, I think, with the release in terms of credit loss provision. So
not a big surprise there when you factor that in. Announced $5 billion of stock repurchased
and announced $1 dividend per share for the quarter. Their investor relation presentation
is pretty funny because it's kind of a mix almost of a Berkshire presentation and a more
normal banking presentation. And there's actually a place inhire presentation and a more normal banking presentation.
And there's actually a place in their presentation that they refer to the balance sheets as a fortress balance sheet.
That's actually the term that they use.
But having said that, the other thing that's been coming out with Jamie Dimon, like you
mentioned, has been last week, he talked about Bitcoin being worthless, but that's nothing new for Jamie Dimon.
But he did recognize that the clients of JP Morgan want exposure to Bitcoin.
So because of that, they want to make it easy as possible for them to access it.
Dimon said that they may not agree with his philosophy on Bitcoin.
And I'm just using my own words to say what he said, but essentially that they're adults and they can invest their money however they want. As a side note, it's not the first time
that Jamie Dimon is bearish on Bitcoin. And let's just say that so far, as good as Jamie Dimon is at
managing banks, he has not been very good at predicting what Bitcoin will be in the future.
No, and many people have been very wrong. And I would say
myself was in that conversation as well too. But that's the power, a superpower, if you will,
is to be able to change your mind. That is one of the most important things you can possibly do
as an investor, as a business owner, as a human, the ability to change your mind when new facts or new research or new discoveries have been presented.
That being said, Diamond is smart because he's looking at it going, okay, if this is a new way for JP Morgan to extract more profits, I'm all in to offer the ability for our clients to pay more fees. That's how I'm
reading that. Yeah, yeah. It's just me. Yeah. And he has analysts that have been quite bullish on
Bitcoin too, which is kind of funny when you think about it. But I think that what frustrates a lot
of people who believe in Bitcoin with Jamie Dimon is he'll throw out arguments sometimes that show
that either he doesn't fully understand it or hasn't done the research. And everyone knows that
he's a very smart man. So I don't know if there's a bit of a disconnect there or whether he just
doesn't want to learn about it or he's set in his way. So we'll see. We'll see what the future
brings. But I think we'll move on to Bank of America now. So now the other big U.S. bank, their net income rose 58% to $7.7 billion or $0.85
per share. Their revenue increased 12% to $22.8 billion. Again, provision for credit losses improved or reduced by $2 billion. The average deposit was up 15% to $1.9 trillion on average.
So for me, that's a figure I wanted to add because that's really mind-boggling.
It's nice to see that people are saving, but it also means that they are getting very little in return.
I assume this is mostly in accounts that are not bearing much interest.
So it's just very interesting to see that sheer number here. And the last thing for them,
their dividend increased 17% and they did 10 billion in share buybacks.
Yeah. Profits for banks are good. Look at these numbers. Despite everyone calling them lethargic and the new neo-banks
are going to take over, the big banks, the well-run ones in particular, JP Morgan, Bank of
America, Goldman, they're doing great. And I was just curious based on our last conversation,
JP Morgan is very close to 500 billion in market cap, which is over $100 billion more than Bank of America,
$381 billion in market cap, with the next in line being Wells Fargo at $200 billion in market cap.
I think that would-
This is a beast, man.
I think it would qualify as a systemically important bank.
I think that would be a very fair statement. I'm looking here on banks by market cap
and it is twice the size of the largest bank in China, publicly listed bank in China to clarify.
Yeah. And Royal Bank is what, like 150 or so in Canadian, maybe a bit less?
It's like 150 billion in market cap.
Yeah. So, just for context. So, there you go. There's some context. It's a big bank.
I was just looking as well as we were talking, just because I was curious about Aritzia. It
was founded by the founder in 1984 by Vancouver's Brian Hill. And it went public in 2016. He still
runs it every day.
So, that's just a little fun fact that I just looked at.
I didn't realize he had started it so long and just been doing this every day since.
So, we like to see that, don't we, Simon? Yeah, yeah.
Definitely always something nice to say.
I can't believe he's been behind it for so long.
That's before I was born.
Kind of surprising.
Simon, they're doing more math now.
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All right. TSMC. Let's switch gears to Taiwan Semiconductor. The ticker is TSM. I'm not going
to get too much into the actual report, but I just want to talk about a couple other things
because it is so important in all the headlines, supply chains, chips, the whole thing. Revenue did increase 16.3%.
Earnings per share was up 13.8%. So the very typical numbers you're seeing out of TSMC,
which is high, mid, double-digit growth on the top and bottom line as a mature
$500 billion in market cap type industrial company. Now, for those who are
not familiar with Taiwan Semiconductor, aka TSMC, they manufacture over half of the world's
semiconductors. So when people talk about NVIDIA, Apple, Arm Holdings, AMD, these big chip designers
and chip makers, they say, they're actually not chip makers.
They're just chip designers because they contract TSMC to fab their chips.
Now, this is an incredible company and the shortage in foundry or manufacturing capacity
is very real.
The growing demand for semis is here to stay.
Everything we use is using more computing power and needs more semis.
Look at a car, Simon, over the last 10, 15 years, it has gone from a mechanical first
type of machine to a computer first machine. And that is only going to increase dramatically
in the future. The problem is they cannot create capacity fast enough. If they could capture
all of the demand in chips, that number on the top line would be a lot more than 16.3%.
But it is a wildly complicated supply chain to create foundry capacity of chips.
Now, no question, there's lots of geopolitical macro concerns all over the place for TSM,
which I am in no position to really speak on right now or have any real insight on the matter.
That being said, it is a great business. I don't think that really can be disputed.
The long runway, even at $500 billion in market cap, this company trades for,
I still see a lot of opportunity. This stock has
done virtually nothing year to date. This could represent some real opportunity as the fundamentals
demand continue to improve. The macro environment for chips continues to improve with a bunch of
short and medium term concerns on top of it. That is when investors should be licking their chops to buy great
businesses from my perspective. Yeah. And I was just, as you were talking,
I was curious to look at Intel, how they're doing, because they manufacture for the most part,
all their chips and they have, yeah, they've been threading water to this year, which is
interesting. And I know they've fallen behind a little bit from AMD in terms of performance and they've had delays, but it's kind of a head scratch. I guess we'll
have to dig into those a little more to understand why they haven't performed all that well.
Well, Intel lost the big deal with Apple too, right?
I mean, they used to make the...
Yeah, they used to have Apple's business and they don't anymore.
And think of how much that affects your sales numbers and your profit numbers when you don't have the biggest company in the world is now your largest customer.
So there was a lot of customer concentration risk that paid out like it played out for
the worst for Intel.
Intel's not dead.
You know, they're still around.
They still have lots of other customers and they do have their own foundry. And there is a lot of outside political,
I don't even know what to say, but tailwind for Intel as the US would like to have their own,
on their own lands, foundry for chips. Because you look across the supply chain and have to
rely on basically one company in Taiwan
or else the entire supply chain on the planet crawls to a halt. That is a real concern,
I think, for the US's perspective. And I tend to agree with that sentiment.
Yeah. And I think in a future episode, something will be interesting to look at is just
how all these supply chain issues came about and why we're still seeing them.
So I've been reading on that a little bit.
It's quite interesting.
Doesn't only, it affects way more than just a computer chip.
So I think it's something that would be interesting to talk about.
Oh, it's affecting so much across the board.
And it's this weird like inflationary environment on top of it, right?
Which is just, it's a cluster f which i will
not say on this podcast okay anyways because we're a family show we're a family show so now we'll move
on to the thrilling world of aluminum and alcoa just released their earnings i was interested in
them just because of what we've seen in commodities and just the overall demand
for materials and i thought it was really interesting just to look at that so alcoa
their revenue grew to 3.1 billion which is an increase of 30 year over year and 10 sequentially
they set a record for a quarterly net income of 337 million and earnings per share of 1.76 for context this was compared
to a loss last year in the same quarter they announced plan to restart a smelter in sao
luis brazil it will be fully operational in the fourth quarter of 2022 they redeemed 500 million
dollars in high interest rates no so So basically, they paid those off.
They have no maturities until 2027.
They generated $435 million in cash from operation.
They finished a quarter with cash balance of $1.45 billion.
So they're really shoring up their balance sheet.
In short, that's what it means.
They've also announced the initiation of a
quarterly cash dividend on its common stock and 500 million share repurchase program.
The 500 million is actually an addition of 150 million that they had already in place.
And for context on the dividend, it's the first time they pay a dividend since 2016.
And the new cash dividend will be 10 cents per share, which shows
that they're probably pretty confident at this dividend going forward because they've been on
the more conservative side. They had paid a dividend for years before 2016. I was looking
at their history. And the last thing, it will probably come to no surprise to you, Brayden,
or anyone listening, They mentioned that they greatly
benefited from a rise in aluminum prices. That's the whole sentence that spells the
theme of the entire rest of the report. We're seeing this with every single commodity business,
which is we are in the early innings and from my perspective of a huge commodity super cycle, whether it's
oil and gas, aluminum, steel, grain, whatever, like whatever it is, there is a huge amount of
pressure, upward pressure on the prices of these commodities. And the companies like Alcoa that
are producing them are benefiting across the board.
And the only thing that makes me cautious when you read these kinds of reports, like
so much in share repurchases, they're now issuing a dividend.
It's like when you go to the casino and you're up big, and then you just start getting really
aggressive after you've been so conservative.
That gives me a little cause for concern.
But they have been shoring up the balance sheet. So I'll give them props where it's due because
they are using that money in kind of different ways as well. So yes, they're rewarding shareholders,
but they're also soaring up the balance sheet. And I think that's a great discussion, again,
probably for a future podcast. But historically, commodity prices have done quite
well in inflationary periods.
And for the most part, I've exceeded returns of stocks as well.
So I don't know if we're entering that, but I think there's a good chance that we may,
like you said, going into a commodity super cycle where they just keep increasing because
just demand is there and we're seeing high inflation.
Oh, it's going to be terrible if that's true. just keep increasing because just demand is there and we're seeing high inflation.
Oh, it's going to be terrible if that's true because I don't invest in commodities. I invest in companies with pricing power and I can't wait for all the ads on Twitter that are going to be
all over me because their oil and gas companies are dominating my portfolio. So, that's going to be just great, Simon.
Pizza. Who doesn't love pizza? By the way, if you're on the spot and you're like,
I don't know, but what is your go-to fast chain for pizza for takeout?
For takeout? Oh, that's a good question. I tend to, I order quite a bit of pizza, but I do make it quite often. I more often than not,
I actually make it from scratch. So, I usually go for like local places that deliver like
wood-fired ovens. That's kind of what I go. So, I don't do, I mean, chains, I probably the one is
like one for one would be the one that I go to. One for – what is that?
Yeah.
Oh, I guess you don't have it.
I've never heard of that.
They have like a New York style pepperoni pizza and it's really good.
But yeah, that's probably my go-to if not late night pizza pizza because it's the only thing open.
It's the only thing open.
The cardboard pizza pizza.
It used to be actually one of my first jobs was working at a call center for pizza, pizza.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't know I was going to learn so much on this podcast about you, Simon.
Domino's reported revenues up 3.1% while same store sales were actually down 1%.
So we've seen some mixed results on this one.
Earnings per share was somehow up a whopping 30% with net income or profits up 21.5%.
Now, what is this description of earnings per share and net income?
This shows the beauty of share buybacks.
The increase in net income was primarily by higher income from operations resulting from higher global franchise revenues.
The exciting number was international sales up 8% during the third
quarter. The company repurchased and retired 391,000 shares of its common stock. That is why
you see such a discrepancy between the net income and the earnings per share is they're deleting the
share count. And they have also said that they are going to accelerate their deleting of the
share count. It is down about
12%. I don't follow the name extremely well, but I'm assuming it's because of that same store sales
number, which has been so consistent. That same store sales number for Domino's, it's one of those
metrics where you're like, they can't keep doing this. They can't seriously keep growing same store
sales growth by high single digits, low double digits.
And now we're seeing it pretty much flat.
So it's actually down by a couple hundred basis points.
The stock is up 3,200% since IPO.
Domino's.
Who would have thought?
To answer the question that I posed in the beginning is I'm a pizza Nova guy.
I like that. I like that greasy pizza I'm a pizza Nova guy. Okay.
I like that greasy pizza Nova.
It's very good.
Yeah, I don't think we-
Domino's is all right.
I don't think we have them in Ottawa.
I've heard of it.
Aren't they at the Jays game or something?
The pizza Nova?
Yeah.
No, I don't know.
Okay.
Anyways, we're done.
Maybe.
Maybe.
We're getting hungry but as a side note for dominoes i remember
seeing somewhere how they like almost see them more like themselves as a tech business that
delivers that does pizza as a product because they were one of the first pizza chains to embrace
like kind of an app where people can track what like are their pizza and stuff like that so i think think it kind of shows that it's done quite well. And like you said, it's up like
just look at the chart. I think in the past 10 years, it's up close to 10x just in that time
frame. Yeah, it is. And you're right. That's the reason that Domino's had such a rise in market
share in the pizza business, which was adapting to the new way that people wanted to
order before they knew they even wanted to order it that way. And they were the first mover,
early adopter of some of the technologies. Now we're seeing how people order takeout food.
Now, since they were so ahead, it gave them this huge rise. But moving forward, now customers have so many options with
takeout food. They can support local and still get it delivered with these new apps. Here in Canada,
whether it's Uber Eats and Skip the Dishes or in the US, DoorDash is a big one. I know it's
here in Canada as well, but there are brands that have more market share in the US. That is a definite issue or headwind for Domino's moving forward as customers are having more
choices when it comes to take out food.
Yeah, that's it.
And I mean, I think they also change your recipes over the years to something that was
a bit better.
I mean, I haven't tasted their pizza in so long, so can't really talk.
Yeah, I think it.
Yeah, that's what I've heard from people.
But yeah.
Hey, props to them.
They've delivered.
No.
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