The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 297: The Cross of Suicide
Episode Date: October 24, 2023The cross of suicide is a violation of the fifth commandment that, tragically, many of us have been impacted by in our world today. Fr. Mike explains that we are stewards of the life that God has entr...usted to us, not owners. Our lives are precious gifts, and we have a responsibility to care for them. He also emphasizes that we should not lose hope for the eternal salvation of those who take their own lives. Today’s readings are Catechism paragraphs 2280-2283. Listener discretion advised. This episode contains references to suicide. If you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts, please contact someone you can trust and/or contact the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 (available 24 hours everyday). You are loved, you are beautiful, and you are absolutely irreplaceable. This episode has been found to be in conformity with the Catechism by the Institute on the Catechism, under the Subcommittee on the Catechism, USCCB. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/ciy Please note: The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.
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Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and you're listening to the Catechism in a Year Podcast,
where we encounter God's plan of sheer goodness for us, revealed in Scripture and passed down
through the tradition of the Catholic faith, the Catechism in a Year's Gratitude by Ascension.
In 365 days, we'll read through the Catechism of the Catholic Church, discovering our identity
and God's family as we journey together toward our heavenly home.
This is day 297, the last number on my checklist of the Catacasem in the year reading plan.
We're reading paragraphs 2-8-0 through 2-8-3.
As always, I'm using the Ascension Edition of the Catacasem, which includes the foundations
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Today is day 297.
As I said, it is the on my sheet,
at least my catacism in your reading plan,
it is the last day.
And so that means we have, I think, two full sheets left.
Is that, look, that's, that's, I'm familiar to anyone here.
I think so.
And we're really paragraphs two, eight-0, 2-8-3.
Yesterday, I keep saying this,
but yesterday we talked about
Euthanasia, the day before abortion.
Today we're talking about suicide.
Again, talking about very serious things
and the recognition that all of our lives have been,
well, maybe all of our lives,
but most of our lives have been marked by
or touched by, affected by suicide.
And so we're really going to hear today.
What does the church officially teach with regard
to taking one's own life?
It is a serious sin.
It is a grave sin.
And yet, at the same time, not yet.
There's no yet, at the same time.
The church continues to have compassion.
The church has hope.
The church prays for all of those who take their own lives.
We're going to talk about that today.
So as we prepare ourselves to launch into these four paragraphs, we'll let us first
launch into the Lord, into the Father's heart, and call upon the name of Jesus Christ.
We pray, Father in heaven, we give you praise and glory, and thank you.
We thank you for your son Jesus, we thank you for your Holy Spirit that you have poured
out into our hearts that we can call you for your son, Jesus. We thank you for your Holy Spirit that you have poured out into our hearts that we can call
you, Abba, Father.
We thank you for making us your children through baptism and the power of the Holy Spirit
through faith.
We ask that you please, regardless of where we are right now, be with us now.
Be with us in this moment.
Be with us as we look at this serious and grave issue of suicide.
We ask that you please protect our hearts, especially those hearts that are grieving.
Lord God, the hearts that are grieving, we ask that you please protect them in a unique
way, strengthen them in a unique way and heal them.
Heal all of our hearts that have been wounded by abortion two days ago, euthanasia yesterday,
and today's suicide.
We ask you please give us hearts of compassion, hearts of truth, hearts that are courageous
in being committed to living out your will in all things.
Jesus, be with us now.
And it's in your name that we ask all these things in the name of the Father, the Son,
the Holy Spirit.
And then it is day 297.
We're reading paragraphs 2 to 8, 0 to the Holy Spirit, and then it is day 297, we are reading paragraphs 2-8-0 to 2-2-8-3.
Suicide
Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him.
It is God who remains the sovereign master of life.
We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation
of our souls.
We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us.
It is not ours to dispose of."
Suicide contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate
His life.
It is gravely contrary to the just love of self.
It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity
with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. Suicide
is contrary to love for the living God. If suicide is committed with the intention of setting an
example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Volunteer
cooperation in suicide is contrary to the moral law.
Grave is psychological disturbances. Anguish or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture
can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. We should not despair of the
eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone,
God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance.
The church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.
All right, there we have it. These four paragraphs, paragraph 2280 to 2283,
we're going to break this down, and it's very important for us to break this down
because each sentence, essentially, each of these sentences in each one of these four paragraphs,
is telling us something very critical. So, the start of the very beginning, paragraph 2-2-8-0, everyone is responsible for his life
before God who has given it to him.
Remember, we talked about this before.
When you have a real relationship, there are real rights, but there are also real responsibilities.
So we are responsible for our life.
It is God, though, who remains the sovereign master of life.
And we are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and salvation of
our souls. And in this keyword, we are stewards. We are stewards of the life God has entrusted
to us. We're not owners. And so this recognize, that's my life. And that's, that's, isn't
that a common thing? Well, it's my life. Who, what does it matter? It's my life. Well,
the reality, of course, is that you and I are both stewards of our lives. We're not the
owners of our lives.
And so it's not ours to dispose of, you know, how many times have you and I been in
the situation where someone, I've been in this situation many times where I've been invited
to counsel someone who is in this place of either being tempted to end their life or
are planning to end their life. Of course, in my position, when someone is planning to end their life or are planning to end their life.
Of course, in my position,
when someone is planning to end their own life,
if they're involved in suicidal ideation,
then one of my roles,
one of the many roles that I'll take is to contact
and help professional.
This is immediately important, so important.
So, if you find yourself in this place,
where you're the person offering counsel to someone,
to do that alone is, I I think as a grave mistake, to offer that that help alone, I think is is not as
good as connecting them with people who can help beyond you. I think that's that's one of the first
lessons that I ever learned when talking with people who are tempted toward committing suicide
or planning on committing suicide is like,
okay, if you're in a place of danger now,
and then we're gonna go to the hospital.
And that's the thing, it's like oftentimes,
if you're a person filled with compassion,
if you're a person that cares about people,
then someone who may be in this place, right?
Someone who may be in this place of wrestling
with whatever struggle they're in the midst of
and reveals to you that they are tempted to commit suicide or they're planning on committing suicide, that the
thing I always bring up is, okay, if this is the case right now, that if you're in a place
of danger, then what we're going to do is, especially if they've called, like, I'm not in
their presence in that exact moment, one of the things that in order to make sure that
they are safe and that we're doing whatever we can, whatever I can to help them, is
I'll say, if you're in a place of danger right now, then for stand on the phone, I'm
going to come to you and we're going to go to the hospital because, you know, just talking
about it sometimes when someone's in that place, just talking about it sometimes is not
enough.
And so I just want to encourage anyone.
This is something that that's my policy is if I'm ever talking to someone in this moment.
It's okay, you're in a place of danger.
If you are going to the hospital, if you're not in a place of danger,
then we can continue talking or we can talk later depending on, you know,
if it's the middle of the night, or if it's in a, in a very not helpful time,
then is that make sense?
I just, I think it's helpful, especially again, if you're someone who has a lot of
compassion, you have a lot of care and, and you want to do whatever you can to
help someone, I think sometimes to have some boundaries of care, and you want to do whatever you can to help someone.
I think sometimes to have some boundaries is very, very helpful for you, and it's also
very helpful for the person that you're trying to help to be able to say, this is place
of danger, time of danger, then we're going to do something about it.
We're going to act on this and get you help now.
And if you're not in a time of danger, then I might need to put some boundaries on this
moment.
I hope hopefully that helps.
That's just kind of one of the things that I've learned.
But going back to this place of saying, we are stewards, not owners of the life, got
entrusted to us.
It's my life.
What do you care?
Well, the reality, of course, is that here's paragraph 2 to 8, 1.
Not only does suicide contradict the natural inclination of the human being to preserve
and perpetuate his own life, but it's also not only contrary to the just love of self,
and likewise, a friend's love of neighbor. So the idea of, it's my life, what do you care?
Like, oh, actually, when we, as we've said many times, we belong to each other. It unjustly
breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies, to which we continue
to have obligations. This is one of the things that I don't want to sound like I'm rushing through this, but I've talked to many family members of people
who have committed suicide who have taken their own lives. And in the midst of their grief,
one of the, one of the emotions they have to process, not always, but often is anger.
There's this grief, of course, of how they were in pain, but leading up to this,
or dissadness of having lost this family member, this friend, this person that they loved. But
another part of this is anger. That sense of, okay, yeah, you've done this to yourself,
but you've also done this to us. And that's real. And so sometimes a lot of those who have are the survivors of those who have committed suicide, they
have to reconcile the fact that it's okay for me to also have some anger. That's natural
for me to also have some anger, especially if you're someone who like, no, we were helping
you or someone like, why didn't you tell us that you needed help or whatever that kind
of thing is? The fact is, if I were to say, if it's an a me person were to say, it's my life. What does it matter to you?
Well, the reality is it matters to a lot of people. And maybe not even a lot of people. Maybe it just
matters to one person. Maybe it just matters to a couple of people. That we know this, our lives don't have to matter to thousands in order to matter, that
your life matters.
And in addition, one of the reasons why the church in the past, and that's some pretty
stringent laws, or basically some disciplines surrounding what do you do with those who
have committed suicide, is because we recognize the reality of what you might, what's maybe
recently come to know and be known as social contagion.
So, and this is again, I don't mean to be,
it's kind of scattershot over this,
but the reality is we belong to each other
and there's such a thing as social contagion, right?
That I remember reading an article years ago
about a string of islands,
and I think it's in the South Pacific,
and what they found was occasionally,
they would have a young person,
it was typically a young person,
who would take their own life.
And then they would have a rash of suicides
that would follow this.
And we can see how this could happen,
and often does happen in our small towns,
or in our communities, where what is it?
Here's this person that's taking their own life.
And we give them a lot of attention,
because we say, oh, this is this person, how taken their own life. And we give them a lot of attention because we say,
oh, this is this person, how tragic, and it is tragic.
And what happens that sparks with sparks,
someone else to say, well, this was someone else
took the step and they got attention.
Someone else took the step and, you know,
that's an option for me.
There is a social contingent component to this.
And I think, here's my, I'm just proposing this.
I'm just, this is my opinion.
It's my, it's not even my opinion I'm just, this is my opinion. I want, it's my, it's
not even my opinion. I wonder if this isn't the case. I wonder if for years the church understood that
and because of that for years, the church had a, okay, when it comes to those who have committed
suicide, we are going to not have funeral rights for them. When someone's committed suicide, they
may not be buried and within the cemetery,
that's reserved for those who are baptized. It could be the case that the church is just trying,
again, not trying to punish someone unduly or not trying to add to grief, but because the church
has understands the nature of, again, this term, social contagion. Does that make sense? Because
we have to balance this reality, right, that I am a steward of my own life. But also in taking my own life, I offend love of
neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, other
human society. So, so my neighbor, my family, the people who love me, they might feel anger
at me. And if I've taken this step, also I'm giving bad witness. In fact, that's one
of the reasons
why it says in paragraph 2282 that if suicide is committed with the intention of setting an example,
especially to the young, takes on the gravity of scandal. Because again, we belong to each other.
And so this is so important for us to understand that suicide is always going to be wrong. It's always
going to be a grave sin. At the same time, paragraph 2-2-2 notes
this, and this is, I think this is part of the wisdom of the church here. The wisdom of the church
says that grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture,
can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide. So mental illness can diminish the
responsibility of one committing suicide. I think about how many times, gosh, I mean, think about 2001 on September 11th, and we have
the Twin Towers, and here's this burning building, and people realize there's no escape.
And so they jumped out of the burning building.
We wouldn't say, well, they committed suicide.
They should have just stayed and let the flames engulf them.
That's not the case.
This sense of here is great pain.
They're going through the only way out is outside this window.
So the recognition here is the church is saying, okay, in all of this, we need to understand
that there are, there's mental illness that can diminish one's responsibility or culpability,
right?
There's anguish, great fear of hardship, suffering, or torture.
Other times, think about, man, someone who has a cyanide capsule,
go back to some of those kind of spy stories, where here's a person in the midst of torture,
might find themselves in a place where they commit suicide. That's not a good.
Keep this in mind. That's not a good. It's still a moral evil.
But the church is understanding that, remember, remember, when it comes to
for a sin to be mortal,
I have to, as be grave matter.
So that's in this case, that's there.
I have to have full knowledge and full consent of the will.
It makes sense to recognize that many people, I don't know about all people, I have no
idea what percentage there is.
Many people would not have full consent of the will if they're being driven by mental illness
or they're being driven by grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture that can get canned diminished. It doesn't say it does,
but it can diminish the responsibility of the one committing suicide because of this.
We must not misupsate paragraph two to eight three. We should not despair of the eternal
salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. So we let's say that again. Because we know this,
because there are certain things that can diminish one's culpability.
It's still a grave evil, right?
Still a sin.
But because there are real things
that can diminish one's culpability,
we should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons
who have taken their own lives.
So here, we know people, we're related to people
who have taken their own lives.
Well, can I have hope for them?
The church says, yes, we should not despair, meaning we should have hope.
By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance.
The church praise her persons who have taken their own lives.
Now, this isn't just a novel invention, right?
This isn't just a recent thing with the understanding of mental illness now in our modern day.
This goes all the way back to actually there was a quote
I remember from St. Augustine. St. Augustine was asked about this at some point or he taught about this at some point
and one of the things he said about when it comes to praying for those who have taken their own lives is
that we should not despair of the eternal salvation because by ways known to God alone, God can provide the opportunity for repentance.
He said this something like this, we don't know what happens between the bridge and the
water.
Why do we pray for them?
We don't know what happens between the bridge and the water.
Not only do we not know what kind of aspects could reduce the culpability of the person
committing suicide, we also don't know the situation.
In fact, it's ironic or fitting maybe, providential maybe, that Augustine used that phrase.
We don't know what happens between the bridge and the water because I remember reading
about this years ago that the Golden Gate Bridge is I think, maybe still, maybe not still
anymore, the number one place for death in the United States because of the number of
people who commit suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
There are some stories though of people who have attempted suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge. There are some stories, though, of people who have
attempted suicide by jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge or by other, jumping off of other
high bridges. In one story, in particular, I remember reading about a person who said,
the moment they let go of the railing, the moment they took that step, they wished they had not.
The moment they took that step and were falling from the railing to the water, they began praying.
They prayed the entire fall from the bridge to the water.
God, please forgive me. God, please let me live. That was salutary repentance. Now,
when they hit the water, they, this person in particular, I remember, broke their pelvis, broke their back,
broke a number of other bones, but they survived. And they were lived to tell that story about the moment they let go of the bridge.
They wished they had not.
And this is one of those situations as well, for those who have made it through mental
illness, those who have made it through incredible depression or anxiety or whatever those factors
on their lives, or even just despair.
Those people who are facing incredible challenges were saying, I can't see a way out of this.
And in that moment, because of that,
they're tempted to take their own lives.
I've talked to so many people, not only talk to people,
but have read books about people who have said,
I could never imagine that five years later.
I'm so grateful I didn't take my life.
I couldn't imagine that actually this, I'm stuck
and there's no way forward, but there was a way forward.
And I wasn't completely stuck. Yes, there was a challenge,
and yes, there was difficulty,
and yes, mental illness is real,
and should be treated like we want to,
just like we would go to the doctor for a broken leg,
or for cancer, or for a cough.
I don't know if you were to doctors for cough,
but you know what I'm saying?
We would go to health care,
or a mental health professional,
to help us when it comes to any kind of mental illness
that we know this as Christians there should be no stigma whatsoever about mental illness.
Just like hopefully there's no stigma whatsoever when it comes to physical illness,
we know that human beings, body, mind, soul, spirit, and all of those can be wounded.
And so why not go to someone who can care for us in our woundedness?
So there are so many people who find themselves in a moment where they say, I was so tempted to
commit suicide. I'm so grateful. I didn't because at that moment, I thought there's no way I could
ever make it past this. And looking back five years later, ten years later, a lifetime later,
saying, I am so grateful that I didn't do it.
And that's you, you know,
because I know there are people who are so tempted.
And Paul, people who are listening to us,
definitely people related to those
who are listening to us right now.
Listed part of this community,
of this podcast of the Catechism in here.
And they are tempted and don't see away forward. But the recognition is, God
has given you a future. And it may be a challenge, obviously, all of us face different challenges,
but you don't have to face it alone. You don't have to face these challenges alone.
If you find yourself this last last thing. Whether you find yourself
as someone who's you're in the midst of facing this temptation and just we're praying for
you right now. Or if you find yourself grieving over the loss of someone you loved who
had taken their own lives, we're praying for you right now and we're praying for them. As
it says, the very last line in paragraph two to eight three,
the church prays for persons who have taken their own lives,
and we wouldn't pray for them if we didn't think those prayers could help.
So we haven't given up hope.
We have not given up hope, and we never will.
If you're struggling, we're praying for you, don't give up hope.
If you're grieving, if you're even grief tinged with anger, we're praying for you.
Don't give up hope.
And if you find yourself in a place where I can't see any way forward, we're praying for
you.
Don't give up hope.
You may feel incredibly alone, but you're not alone.
We're praying for each other. I'm praying for
you and please pray for me. My name is Father Mike. I cannot wait to see you tomorrow. God bless.