The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 298: Respect for Others (2025)

Episode Date: October 25, 2025

We have seen how harming ourselves or others physically is a violation of the fifth commandment, but how can causing harm to another’s virtue or integrity violate this commandment? Fr. Mike unpacks ...what scandal is and exactly how it is a violation of the fifth commandment. He emphasizes the gravity of scandal when it comes from those who, by nature, teach, and how vital it is for all of us, but especially teachers, to avoid contributing to scandal. Today’s readings are Catechism paragraphs 2284-2287. This episode has been found to be in conformity with the Catechism by the Institute on the Catechism, under the Subcommittee on the Catechism, USCCB. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/ciy Please note: The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz, and you're listening to the Catechism in a year podcast, where we encounter God's plan of sheer goodness for us, revealed in scripture, and passed down to the tradition of the Catholic faith. The Catechism in New Year is brought to you by ascension. In 365 days, we'll read through the Catechism of the Catholic Church, discovering our identity in God's family, as we journey together toward our heavenly home. This is Day 298. We're reading paragraphs 2,284 to 2,287, as always, I'm using the ascension edition of the catechism, which includes a foundations of faith approach, but you can follow along with any recent version of the catechism of the Catholic Church. You could also download your own catechism in a year reading plan by visiting
Starting point is 00:00:41 ascensionpress.com slash CIY, and you can click follow or subscribe in your podcast app for daily updates and daily notifications, but you knew that already. Today is day 298. We're looking at this respect for the dignity of persons. Now, again, always keeping this in mind. is that these last seven commandments, the first three, right, love of God, the last seven, love of neighbor, they are all based on the dignity of the human person. So one of those things, well, many of the things we've been talking about has been, if I take the life, like the actual physical life of another innocent human being, that's strictly prohibited. What about damaging someone's soul? What about damaging, it says here, respect for the souls of others. That's,
Starting point is 00:01:25 That's the subtitle of the subtitle, respect for the dignity of persons right above paragraph 2-284. Respect for the souls of others. There's a way in which we can do even, I don't want to say, graver damage, but yeah, I'm going to say it. Even graver damage. You know, it's one thing to take the physical life, to end the physical life of someone. It is another thing to lead them into sin and to by our example, by our counsel, to lead someone away from the Lord. that their soul would be lost to God forever. And that's the sin of scandal.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So today we're going to look at the sin of scandal. And the fact that we're called to respect the souls of others, not just their physical life, but also their spiritual life. As we look into this, some of the things that can happen is just like for the last number of days. It seems like a broken record today, or broken record for the last number of days, has been the fact that a lot of these things, suicide, abortion, euthanasia, all these aspects are things that can be in our lives. life's scandal is also another thing that we can look at our own selves and think, oh my goodness,
Starting point is 00:02:31 Lord, where have I? Where have I led someone to sin? Where is there anyone or maybe groups of people who have been led away from you because of my example, because of my teaching, because of what I've done or said? Sometimes that kind of self-condemnation can be a heavy and difficult weight to bear. So we're going to ask the Lord to bring us truth, of course, but also for the Lord to fill us with His grace so that we can hear the truth without self-condemnation with conviction, of course, with a conviction of the Holy Spirit so that we can know, okay, if I need to repent of this, I want to repent of this fully. But without that self-condemnation, without the voice of the accuser, accusing us of sin and
Starting point is 00:03:11 leaving us in despair, as we hear these words from paragraph 2284 to 228-7 about scandal. We just say, okay, God, convict me where I need to be convicted. Not only, of course, as we said before, not only of my sin, but also of your mercy and your ability to heal, your ability to make us whole again. So we pray for that right now. Father in heaven, we do. We call upon the name of your son, Jesus Christ. I ask you to send us your Holy Spirit to convict our hearts in the truth and to convict our hearts and the truth not only of sin, but also of grace, not only of our weakness and brokenness, but also of your healing and your power to redeem. Lord God, if we are guilty of the sin of scandal,
Starting point is 00:03:55 that because of our choices, because of our example, because of our words, we have led others away from you or led others away from your truth that we have not borne witness to you in truth and in love. We repent of that. We ask that you, please, help those people, help those people that we have led away. Help them now. Bring them home. Oh, God, in spite of us, because of your love, bring them home. Bring them back to you. Lord God, let our tears at being the cause of scandal, let our sorrow at being the cause of scandal, touch your sacred heart and move your sacred heart to bring them back to you. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen, in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Amen. It is day 298. We're reading paragraphs 2-8-4 to 22887. Respect for the dignity of persons. Respect for the souls of others. Scandal Scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil.
Starting point is 00:05:01 The person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor's tempter. He damages virtue and integrity. He may even draw his brother into spiritual death. Scandal is a grave offense if by deed or omission another is deliberately led
Starting point is 00:05:14 into a grave offense. Scandal takes on a particular gravity by reason of the authority of those who cause it or the weakness of those who are scandalized. It prompted our Lord to utter this curse. Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a great millstone fastened round his neck and to be drowned
Starting point is 00:05:34 in the depths of the sea. Scandal is grave when given by those who by nature or office are obliged to teach and educate others. Jesus reproaches the scribes and Pharisees on this account. He likens them to wolves in sheep's clothing. Scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions, by fashion or opinion. Therefore, they are guilty of scandal who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice, or to social conditions that, intentionally or not, make Christian conduct and obedience to the commandments difficult and practically impossible. This is also true of business leaders who make rules encouraging fraud, teachers who provoke their children to anger, or manipulators of public opinion who turn it away
Starting point is 00:06:20 from moral values. Anyone who uses the power at his disposal in such a way that it leads others to do wrong becomes guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that he has directly or indirectly encouraged. Jesus stated, temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to him by whom they come. Right? Again, continue difficult words, but good words for us to hear paragraphs 2284 to 2287. And scandal, this is, again, we said at the top of this episode, the recognition that there
Starting point is 00:06:53 are ways in which we can hurt another's physical life. There are also ways in which we can do damage to another's soul. So scandal, it's defined here in paragraph two to eight four, scandal is an attitude or behavior which leads another to do evil. Goes on to say the person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor's tempter. He damages virtue and integrity. He may even drive his brother into spiritual death. It's a grave offense. Here's the key. If by deed or omission, another is deliberately led into a grave offense. And wow, so what are you going to talk about? We're going to talk about a couple things. One is how you can add to the gravity of scandal. You know, remember we've talked about this, I think a number of times, St. James, in the letter of James, he says that many of you, not many of you
Starting point is 00:07:34 should aspire to be teachers, my brethren, because you'll be held to a higher judgment, more a stricter judgment. And that is completely true. Because if your job is to teach others, if your job is to lead others to the truth or lead others to the Lord, then that is a grave responsibility. And that's not just teachers. That is parents. That's not just teachers and parents. That's priests. That's religious. That's, that's anyone who is willing to take up the name of Christian. And this is so important. Anyone willing to take up the name of Christian, we recognize that, okay, remember, we're called to be martyrs. If you remember this, in Acts chapter one. What does Jesus say? The apostles ask Jesus before he ascends to heaven. It's after the
Starting point is 00:08:19 resurrection before the ascension. The apostles say, Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel? And Jesus responds. It's not you to know that times or seasons. But he goes on to say, but you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And then you will be my witnesses here in Jerusalem throughout Judea and Samaria to the ends of the age. That word, you know this already. The word witness is what martyrs. So here, every Christian is called to be a martyr. Every Christian is de facto by the very fact that you and I have been consecrated as a Christian, baptized in the name of the Father's and Holy Spirit, commissioned by the Holy Spirit, by the church, by the very fact of that, we are witnesses. Therefore, what we choose to do with our lives, we choose to do with our
Starting point is 00:09:01 words, how we choose to live our lives in our, what we choose to say, we're bearing witness. So we're either bearing witness to the Lord Jesus or bearing witness to the world or even and bearing witness to ourselves. This is one of the reasons why, let's go back to this one example. I know we're not at chapter or commandment number six or commandment number nine yet on sexual ethics, but when it comes to something like, say, cohabitating, right, living together before a person's married, or even this, maybe not living together, but staying the night with one's a significant other, that they're not married yet, why that is a grave sin for a number
Starting point is 00:09:35 of reasons, but they say, yeah, we're not, we're not like, you know, doing anything. we're not sinning or not you know acting out sexually we're just sleeping well one thing is your roommates don't know that necessarily you know your niece and nephew who are coming to visit don't know that your little brother and sister who are coming to visit they don't know that and this gives grave scandal to those who say oh i know that couple they're catholic and yet oh they're spending the night with each other you have to keep that in mind what does it say here it says the person who gives scandal becomes his neighbor's tempter he damages virtue and integrity he may even draw his brother into spiritual death. I say, well, those Catholics, they do this thing. It must be fine.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I see them going to Sunday Mass. I see them going to daily Mass. And yet they sometimes spend the night. Again, that is, what is scandal? Scandal in many ways is calling good, or evil good. So here is an evil. But that's fine because I do that. Or here is something that's good and not doing it. Okay, so I guess we can get away with that. I remember years ago, It was just, it was one of those situations where I'd gone to a wedding. Maybe I've said this before. I'd gone to a wedding and I didn't really think the couple was, I was troubled by their relationship.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I'll say it like that. And I don't normally voice my opinion on that kind of thing because it's not my job to voice my opinion after they've already gotten married. And I was riding in the car with a couple people. One of them was just a very holy person. And if they were driving away from this wedding, driving back to, our various homes. I was giving them a ride. I said it out loud. I was like, I don't want to say this, but I remember, I remember bringing this up, this piece of gossip up, like my opinion about
Starting point is 00:11:15 this relationship that already, they're married now, bringing it up to kind of test the waters to see, are we going to gossip about this, this couple after their wedding or not? And I remember the person is very, very holy, very, very guarded with their words and very careful about trying to have words of charity for virtually every person. And I remember they kind of bit on this and said, yeah, I know, I don't see this and just seems like not a lot of joy there, et cetera, et cetera. Remember being like relieved that, oh, they're willing to talk about this as well. But I realize in that moment, I was the source of temptation. In that moment, I was the one who had kind of put the feelers out there. Are we free to gossip in this moment? Are we free to talk about this couple
Starting point is 00:11:54 behind their back after the fact when there's nothing we can do to affect it, right? There's a whole different kind of situation if this is, you know, months before the wedding. And it's one of those, should I say something or not about this? I need to process this out loud. This was simply kind of indulging in my hesitation or indulging in my opinion, indulging in gossip. And I in that case, this is, it was so convicting. I remember, I don't even know if it was by the end of that conversation I had been so convicted and said, oh my gosh, I am so you guys in this car. I am so sorry I brought up the gossip and I was testing why I led you all into gossip and it was I felt so badly especially because the person one of the other people as mentioning the person
Starting point is 00:12:36 I'm mentioning was so holy and was so conscientious about being kind with their words gracious with their words and I had led them into that gossip and I remember just yeah just being great I you say if that's the that's the worst and you can think of when it comes to scandal it's not it's the one I'm going to share though I'll say it like that Because think about this as well. Paragraph 2-8-5 says what? It says, scandal is grave when given by those who by nature or office are obliged to teach and educate others. We recognize that the scandal that can be passed on, that can be given, again, by parents, those who by nature are called obliged to teach and educate, or by priests, religious, who by office
Starting point is 00:13:24 are obliged to teach and educate others. It can become grave. And it's so, so difficult, so deadly. And we need to guard against this. I've mentioned this. I think a number of times, one of the best classes in seminary was a class on moral theology by Dr. Chris Thompson at the St. Paul Seminary. And we were talking about the serious sin of scandal. And he was very, he was very conscious of the fact that working at a seminary, he was responsible for the form. of men who would go out into the world as Christ's representative in Persona Christi, Capitis, right? So that we would be representing Jesus and representing the church wherever we went. And so he took that incredible, not that he was the only one who took it seriously,
Starting point is 00:14:07 but he took it very, very seriously. He's the father of a number of children. And he basically took our formation so personally it was one of the situations of at some point my kids, my grandkids will be shaped and formed by you. And so my job is to shape and form you as best I can. so that you can be the priests of Jesus Christ who give witness to Jesus and the church wherever you go from here and I remember at one point he was talking about the sin of scandal you're talking about the need the need absolute necessity of us to do everything we can
Starting point is 00:14:40 by our own will and by God's grace to live out the faith we profess and to avoid sin as as much as possible and he said men you are going to go out into this world and if you cause others to sin because you are unwilling to teach them what they need to know, or because the way you live bears false witness to the truth of Christ and the truth of the gospel, the truth of the church. He says, I have one word for you, men. That word is millstones. I remember that was 23 years ago, however long ago it was, and I still can hear his voice saying, I have one word for you. That word is millstones. That's the word of Jesus here in paragraph 2-8-5, quoting Jesus in the gospel of Matthew. So important for us to never forget. Now, paragraph 2286 highlights this.
Starting point is 00:15:28 It says scandal can be provoked by laws or institutions by fashion or opinion. And so this is pretty remarkable. It says this. It says, therefore, they are guilty of scandal who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice or to social conditions that intentionally or not make Christian conduct and obedience to the commandments difficult and practically impossible. Remember, we have responsibility to the people around us, whatever our role is. So I've been talking about the role of teachers, of parents, of priests, of religious, but also those people who establish laws or social structures leading to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice, what might some
Starting point is 00:16:06 of those things be? Well, you know, a couple days ago, we talked about abortion and how abortion has become, in some ways, kind of the norm. That up until a couple decades ago, abortion, even if people had recourse to abortion it was still seen as something horrible it was still seen as a sin it was still seen as this is regrettable that this person has seen abortion as their only option and yet now what do we have we have a culture that says to celebrate your abortion so here is a law that has led to the decline of morals and the corruption of religious practice it makes christian conduct and obedience to the commandments difficult practically impossible There are three examples that are given in paragraph 2 to 86.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It says it's also true of business leaders who make rules encouraging fraud or teachers who provoke their children to anger or manipulators of public opinion who turn it away from moral values. Maybe think of like influencers at this point. We all have in some ways, we all have some kind of influence that might be big or small, but the recognition of I, here's a business leader and make rules encouraging fraud. like this is just how we do it here or a business owner who forces their employees to work on Sunday that would be the corruption of religious practice that make it difficult for someone
Starting point is 00:17:27 to have Christian conduct or obedience to the commandments teachers who provoke their children to anger and that's a real thing you say priests who provoke their congregants parishioners to anger manipulators a public opinion to turn away from moral values this is so important and paragraph 2 to 8.7 kind of summarizes all of this and puts it very pointedly, anyone who uses the power at his disposal in such a way that it leads others to do wrong becomes guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that he is directly or indirectly encouraged. And that's the summary of the whole thing. I just, I said this at the very beginning. We might be convicted by this. Anyone who uses the power at his disposal in such a way
Starting point is 00:18:10 that it leads others to do wrong becomes guilty of scandal. and responsible for the evil that he is directly or indirectly encouraged. It was one of the reasons why we just ask the Lord to guard our speech. We ask the Lord to guard our actions. And then we ask the Lord, God, help me to be a good witness, a faithful witness, a true witness. Because we've all been given some degree of power. We've all been given some degree of influence. So we have to use that power at our disposal in such a way that it leads others to the truth.
Starting point is 00:18:41 And it leads others to the Lord. And if we do this, we use these gifts God's given us in such a way that it leads others to do wrong, become guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that he is directly or indirectly encouraged. You know, this is the harsh words of the prophets, harsh words of St. Augustine. And the prophets, St. Augustine, echoing the prophets, talks about, okay, pastors, those who are leading God's people. If you do not tell the people of God the truth, so that they have the opportunity. to be converted and turn back to him, then they'll die in their sins,
Starting point is 00:19:17 but you'll be responsible for that. Now, if you do tell the truth, if you do convict them to bring them back so they can turn their lives around and bring them back to the Lord, and they don't, well, they might die in their sin, but then you'll be, you're not guilty for that. That's this recognition that if I do not use
Starting point is 00:19:33 the influence, the power, whatever that is at my disposal, if you don't use the influence the power at your disposal in such a way that it leads others to the Lord, but instead lead others to do wrong, leads others to do wrong, we become guilty of scandal and responsible for the evil that we have indirectly or directly encouraged. Again, that's what the prayer at the beginning of this day was, God, help me, help me, help me, help me not to succumb to self-condemnation, but allow myself to be convicted so that I can, so that all of us can be convicted and be led back by God's grace to his heart. And so this is an opportunity for repentance.
Starting point is 00:20:13 That maybe even today we can pray, God, if there's anyone that I've led away, the word or example, let away from you. Please, please. I repent in the name of Jesus. And I ask you, I ask you to care for them. Bring them back to you in spite of me and because of your love. That's our prayer for today. Let's pray for each other. I'm praying for you. Please pray for me. My name is Father Mike. I cannot wait to see you tomorrow. God bless.

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