The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 312: Polygamy, Incest, and Free Union (2025)

Episode Date: November 8, 2025

The Catechism continues on with other offenses against the dignity of marriage and concludes our look at the sixth commandment. Polygamy, incest, sexual abuse, and free union are reviewed in detail. F...r. Mike highlights that these sins are grave, but God gives hope to all of us experiencing wounds or guilt. We have the opportunity to change in order to live in accordance with the Gospel. Today’s readings are Catechism paragraphs 2387-2400. This episode has been found to be in conformity with the Catechism by the Institute on the Catechism, under the Subcommittee on the Catechism, USCCB. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/ciy Please note: The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz, and you're listening to The Catechism in a Year podcast, where we encounter God's plan of sheer goodness for us, revealed in scripture, and passed down through the tradition of the Catholic faith. The Catechism in a year is brought to you by ascension. In 365 days, we'll read through the Catechism of the Catholic Church, discovering our identity in God's family as we journey together toward our heavenly home. This is Day 312. We were reading paragraphs 2387 all the way to the end to paragraph 2400 to the Nuggets. As always, I am using the Ascension edition of the Catechism, which includes a foundations of faith approach, but you can follow along with any recent version of the catechism of the Catholic
Starting point is 00:00:39 Church. You can also download your own catechism in a year reading plan by visiting ascensionpress.com and you can click follow or subscribe to your podcast app for daily updates and daily notifications today is day 312 reading, as I said, paragraphs 2387 all the way to the end of this commandment, 2400. number of nuggets went at the end today, as we talked about for the last couple of days. Yesterday, we talked about two offenses against the dignity of marriage as adultery and divorce today. The catechism also lists a couple of other offenses against the dignity
Starting point is 00:01:10 of marriage. We recognize that not only are these what we're going to talk about today, offenses against the dignity of marriage, but there are also offenses against, of course, God's law itself, as well as offenses against the dignity of each person, right? So the dignity of the man, the dignity of the woman, or the dignity of the children. And so we recognize that these are, just like we talked about the last number of days, these are very serious offenses against the dignity of marriage. And so we always ask the Lord whenever I guess, you know, of course, as I keep saying, everything we're talking about is very serious.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We can talk about serious things with sensitive hearts, but we also have to talk about serious things with strong hearts. And so as we enter into talking about these other offenses against the dignity of marriage, and the summary, of course, of the Sixth Commandment, we ask the Lord to give us sensitive hearts so that we can truly receive what the church is teaching us and strong hearts, that we can receive and act on what the church is teaching us, that we can have strong hearts, strong hearts that are willing to be broken, strong hearts that are able to change and are able to repent and turn back to the Lord even in the midst of our own brokenness. So as we ask the Lord for these strong and
Starting point is 00:02:20 sensitive hearts, we ask him to be with us right now as we pray. Father in heaven, in the name of your son, Jesus Christ, in the power of your Holy Spirit, we ask you to please come and be with us right now. We take this next step in the name of your son, Jesus. We take this next step of listening to your teaching through your church in the name of your son Jesus with the power of your Holy Spirit. Let our hearts be transformed. Let our hearts be changed. Let our hearts be sensitive and strong so that we can choose. Once we hear what your will is, we can choose to do your will in all things. Lord God, not just with this sixth commandment, but in every way. Let your will be done in our lives. Let your will, let our answer be yes to your will. We make this prayer in the mighty name
Starting point is 00:03:04 of Jesus Christ, our Lord. Amen. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. It is 812. We are reading paragraphs 2387 to 2400. other offenses against the dignity of marriage. The predicament of a man who, desiring to convert to the gospel, is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with whom he has shared years of conjugal life is understandable. However, polygamy is not in accord with the moral law. Conjugal communion is radically contradicted by polygamy. This, in fact, directly negates the plan of God which was revealed from the beginning because it is contrary to the equal personal dignity of men and women who in matrimony give themselves with a love that is total and therefore unique and exclusive.
Starting point is 00:03:51 The Christian who was previously lived in polygamy has a grave duty in justice to honor the obligations contracted in regard to his former wives and his children. Incest designates intimate relations between relatives or in-laws within a degree that prohibits marriage between them. St. Paul st. Paul stigmatizes this especially grave offense saying it is actually reported that there is immorality among you for a man is living with his father's wife in the name of the Lord Jesus you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh incest corrupts family relationships and marks a regression toward animality connected to incest is any sexual abuse perpetrated by adults on children or adolescents entrusted to their care
Starting point is 00:04:35 The offense is compounded by the scandalous harm done to the physical and moral integrity of the young who will remain scarred by it all their lives and the violation of responsibility for their upbringing. In a so-called free union, a man and a woman refused to give juridical and public form to a liaison involving sexual intimacy. The expression free union is fallacious. What can union mean when the partners make no commitment to one another, each exhibiting a lack of trust in the other, in himself, or in the future? The expression covers a number of different situations, concubinage, rejection of marriage as such, or inability to make long-term commitments. All these situations offend against the dignity
Starting point is 00:05:18 of marriage. They destroy the very idea of the family. They weaken the sense of fidelity. They are contrary to the moral law. The sexual act must take place exclusively within marriage. Outside of marriage, it always constitutes a grave sin and excludes one from sacramental communion. Some today claim a right to a trial marriage, where there is an intention of getting married later. However firm the purpose of those who engage in premature sexual relations may be, the fact is that such liaisons can scarcely ensure mutual sincerity and fidelity in a relationship between a man and a woman, nor especially can they protect it from the inconstancy of desires or whim. Carnal union is morally legitimate, only when a definitive community of life between
Starting point is 00:06:03 a man and a woman has been established. Human love does not tolerate trial marriages. It demands a total and definitive gift of persons to one another. In brief, love is the fundamental and innate vocation of every human being. By creating the human being man and woman, God gives personal dignity equally to the one and the other. Each of them, man and woman, should acknowledge and accept his sexual identity.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Christ is the model of chastity. Every baptized person is called to lead a chaste life, each according to his particular state of life. Chastity means the integration of sexuality within the person. It includes an apprenticeship in self-mastery. Among the sins gravely contrary to chastity are masturbation, fornication, pornography, and homosexual practices. The covenant, which spouses have freely entered into, entails faithful love. It imposes on them the obligation to keep their marriage indissoluble. Fecundity is a good, a gift and an end of marriage. By giving life, spouses participate in God's fatherhood. The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally
Starting point is 00:07:21 unacceptable means, for example, direct sterilization or contraception. Adultery, divorce, polygamy, and free union are grave offenses against the dignity of marriage. Okay, there we have it, paragraphs 2387 all the way through the end of the nuggets of 2400. Speaking of 2400, this little last nugget kind of, it basically doesn't kind of. It names what we just talked about today. Yesterday was adultery and divorce. Today, polygamy and free union are grave offenses against the dignity of marriage, which includes, of course, that last nugget of 2391 of the right to a trial marriage. Let's talk about this for just a second. So 2387 highlights this. So here's polygamy. And it high.
Starting point is 00:08:03 highlights the reality that let's look at that first sentence. It says the predicament of a man who desiring to convert to the gospel, right? So this is someone who has a past, right? Someone who's not a Christian necessarily, not Catholic necessarily, but it wants to be, is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with whom he has shared years of conjugal life. It's understandable. That's a predicament. That is a problem. That is an issue. Now, this is really fascinating. I think this is fascinating because this is what the church has encountered, right? The church has encountered many cultures over 2,000 years, and sometimes when the gospel meets those people, when the missionaries encounter people who are living in a way that is outside of the moral realm, the question is,
Starting point is 00:08:45 what changes? Does the gospel change or are people called to change? And the answer, of course, is that the gospel cannot and may not and cannot change. People need to change. And yet, here's the predicament, right? Here is someone, you know, in this case, it describes, here's a man who wants to become Catholic, who is obliged to repudiate one or more wives with him he has shared years of conjugal life. That's a problem. Yet, at the same time, polygamy is not in accord with the moral law. No, take out polygamy and put any situation in there, any situation where, okay, I've kind of made my bed here. I have built a life that is contrary, in contradiction, to the gospel. So what happens? And again, this is a problem. Again, it uses the term predicament. Yes, this is a
Starting point is 00:09:31 this is definitely a predicament and yet what am I called to do I'm called to move forward in a way that is in conformity with the gospel also in conformity with justice right of course it says the christian who has previously lived in polygamy has a grave duty in justice to honor the obligations contracted in regard to his former wives and his children so here's a here's a person they're becoming catholic they're becoming a Christian and they have wives and children what are they called to do well they're not called to continue living as if they have wives plural but they are called to take care of those people with whom they had entered into some kind of relationship. They have obligations to those women. They have obligations to those children. Now, why am I highlighting this? I'm highlighting this because
Starting point is 00:10:13 it is often the case in our lives, where we have built our life in such a way that it is contrary to the gospel. And when we hear the call of Jesus Christ, the gospel is not going to change. That we're called to make whatever sacrifice we need to make. Injustice, of course, in justice. We're called to make any sacrifice we need to make in order to belong to Jesus. So someone finds himself this description in polygamy or in an irregular marriage. And yet, here I am. I'm convicted by the gospel. I'm convicted by the call of Jesus. I'm convicted by the teaching of the church. What am I supposed to do? Well, a way forward could be, okay, I need to continue to care for my children. Obviously, I'm not going to abandon them, we may be called to live as brother and sister. And if we can't regularize
Starting point is 00:11:03 this marriage, we may be called to live as brother and sister for the rest of our lives. This is potentially, now, sometimes, you know, I might say that. People think like, oh, that's ridiculous. But is it? Here's the question. Is it ridiculous? Every one of us, when we came to Jesus, every one of us, we are called, Jesus even lays down the qualifications, the what's necessary to be his disciple. He says, if you want to be my disciple, you must deny yourself. And that doesn't mean deny yourself things that doesn't mean necessarily strictly speaking you know deny yourself little pleasures or deny yourself you know candy over lent or whatever the thing is it means deny yourself it means die to yourself every one of us is called to do that and again if i find myself
Starting point is 00:11:45 in an irregular situation that is not compatible with the gospel i may be called to do something radical. Of course, injustice. Yes, taking care of the people that I need to take care of, still living up to my obligations, but also realizing that the primary obligation is to Jesus, is to respond to the gods. That makes sense. And just again, I highlight that because there probably aren't a ton of us who have experienced these offenses against the dignity of marriage. I hope not. At the same time, if we are, we're called to be converted. We're called to repent. And in every way, we're called to repent that if we have a life that is not commensurate, the gospel. Now, the next 2388 talks about incest, and 2389 talks about any sexual abuse perpetrated
Starting point is 00:12:30 by adults on children or adolescents entrusted to their care. Both of these incredibly grave offenses. Both of these incredibly grave offenses. So incest is what? It's intimate relations between relatives or in-laws within a degree that prohibits marriage between them. Obviously, connected to incest is any sexual abuse perpetrated by adults on children or adolescents entrusted to their care. It goes on to say, it says, the offense is compounded by the scandalous harm done to the physical and moral integrity of the young who will remain scarred by it all their lives and the violation of responsibility for their upbringing. So we just, we name those things and note that the church consistently teaches that these are grave, grave, grave evils. I mean, just, it's almost one of
Starting point is 00:13:15 those things where you don't even need to say it because it's like, no, this is so evil that, of course, obviously, the violation of family relations, the violation of the young by those entrusted to their care, horrible, absolutely, contemptible and condemnable. And if you're someone who has experienced that, just know that you're not horrible. If you are victim of that, you're not contemptible. You are redeemed by Jesus Christ. You're loved by God himself. And you, yes, as the church says, you can remain scarred.
Starting point is 00:13:49 but the Lord loves you in your scars. The Lord loves you in the midst of the brokenness that was perpetrated against you. And this word that the church wants to offer today that is just a word of hope. And again, of course, that word of hope is for all of us. It's for those of us who have experienced this, those of us who experience any kind of wound,
Starting point is 00:14:10 as well as those of us who look at our lives and realize, oh my goodness, in whatever area, I am guilty. Whether that's what we talked about yesterday, adultery or divorce, or polygamy or any of these things, or even in 2390, goes on to say a free union. Basically, what's that? It's the description is a man and woman refused to give juridical and public form
Starting point is 00:14:28 to a liaison involving sexual intimacy. Basically, we're living together without getting married. The word I typically will use is cohabitation, but this is a fascinating term free union. Because in paragraph 2390, it even says, it says the expression of free union is fallacious. What can union mean when the partners make no commitment to one another, each exhibiting a lack of trust in the other, in himself, or in the future.
Starting point is 00:14:50 And that's one of the reasons many people now live together without getting married. There's a lack of trust. A lack of trust that, you know, I don't know if I can trust this other person. I don't know if I can trust myself. Or I can't trust the future. We talked about divorce yesterday and how divorce is contagious in some ways. That divorce actually poisons our culture and poisons our world, poisons our civilization. Why?
Starting point is 00:15:11 Because it breeds this lack of trust in the future. I can't see people keeping their promises. So how can I possibly keep my promises? And yet we're called to reject this free union. We're called to reject cohabitation. In fact, on a personal note, I don't know what it is. But as I've said many times, and I think I just mentioned it a couple days ago, for the last two decades almost, I've worked with middle schoolers, high schoolers, and young adults.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And I don't know why it is, but cohabitation, living together without getting married, is one of those sins that for whatever reason, it just hurts me in an emotional way, like in a gut punch kind of way. And I don't know what it is. It just makes me so sad. I'm trying to say it makes me so sad. When I hear of students that I've worked with
Starting point is 00:15:58 or when I hear of anybody living together without getting married, it just is one of those things where I'm just, even if they're planning on getting married, it's just so out of order. And it's so harmful. In fact, we know, I think, the statistics are on this that if a couple lives together before getting married, if they actually
Starting point is 00:16:18 do get married, there's somewhere between 80 to 90% more likely to get divorced. So the idea of like a trial marriage, as it highlights in paragraph 2391, a trial marriage, there is an intention to getting married later, but it says, however firm the purpose of those who engage in premature sexual relations may be, the fact is that such liaisons can scarcely ensure mutual sincerity and fidelity in that relationship, nor especially can they protect it from the inconstancy of desires or whim. The idea of a trial marriage is, it makes sense in a modern culture where you know, you don't buy a car without, you know, taking a test drive, that kind of idea. And yet we realize this, right, that people aren't things. We have talked about this so many times. Things are meant to be
Starting point is 00:16:59 used and people are meant to be loved. And so you don't take a person for a test drive. You can't actually have a trial marriage. There's no such thing because marriage, by the very definition, of this. Marriage has what written into the very core of marriage, the very DNA of marriage is this is permanent. And so if we're having a trial phase, it is the opposite of permanent. You're trying every part of marriage except for the part that really, really, really matters, which is the permanent part, the part that says no matter what the inconstancy, no matter what the whims, no matter what the ups and downs. We talked about this before, right? You make a promise on your wedding day because you know the day is going to come when you won't want to keep your
Starting point is 00:17:39 And you're saying, as I said, I think yesterday the day before, when that day comes, I promise you, I'll continue to choose you. A trial marriage is an exercise, and I apologize, I don't mean to call names at all. It's an exercise in foolishness because, again, you're trying every part of marriage except for the part that is hard. Say it like that. Human love, as it says here, this is fascinating. You know, I say foolish, but here's the church. says and that's just you know that's father mike talking but here here's this remarkable it says human love does not tolerate trial marriages and i think we all know that human love does not tolerate trial marriages because that person doesn't want to be tried out you might be afraid i might be
Starting point is 00:18:26 afraid of the future i may be afraid of being able to keep my promises i might be afraid of the other person or of myself but love true love does not tolerate trial marriages it demands a total and definitive gift of persons to one another. And I think it's a quote that John Paul II had said, and maybe this is a paraphrase, but he said this. He said at one point he said, the person who does not truly love forever will find it very difficult to truly love for even one day. The person who does not decide to love forever will find it very difficult to truly love
Starting point is 00:18:59 for even one day. Love wants to say forever. And it demands love wants to demand a total and definitive gift of persons. to one another. And so this is just what your heart's made for, is what all of our hearts are made for. And we're made for love. As we said very, very clearly here in paragraph 2392, the first nugget and the last thing here, love is the fundamental and innate vocation of every human being. Love is the fundamental and innate vocation of every human being. And that's true for you. so i'm praying today that you make of yourself somehow somehow a gift of love make of yourself
Starting point is 00:19:39 somehow a gift of love because that's what your call is that's what your vocation is so i am praying for that for you please pray for me my news father mike i cannot wait to see you tomorrow god bless

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