The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 5: How We Know God

Episode Date: January 5, 2023

What can we know about God? The Catechism tells us three important things: 1) We can know God with our human reason, but 2) that knowledge will always be limited, and 3) we rely on God to reveal himse...lf to us. Fr. Mike warns us that learning who God is requires self-surrender and abnegation, for the human heart struggles to recognize the infinite gap between Creator and created. Today’s readings are Catechism paragraphs 36-43. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/ciy Please note: The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and you're listening to The Catechism in a Year Podcast, where we encounter God's plan of sheer goodness for us, reveal the Scripture, and pass down to the tradition of the Catholic faith. The Catechism in a Year is brought to you by Ascension. In 365 days, we'll read through the entire Catechism of the Catholic Church, discovering our identity in God's family as we journey together toward our heavenly home. This is day five. And as a couple of reminders before we get started,
Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm using the Ascension Edition of the Catechism, which includes the foundations of faith approach, but you can follow along with this, with any recent version of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. So no problem whatsoever, but you can also follow along the reading plan by downloading your Catechism in your reading plan
Starting point is 00:00:44 at ascensionpress.com slash C-I-Y. Also, you can click follow or subscribe or whatever in your podcast app to receive daily notifications and updates. And also, I just want to take a moment to thank all of you who have supported the production of this podcast with prayers and financial gifts literally could not do without you. So thank you so much. As I said, it is day five. We are reading from chapter one in the search, paragraphs 36 through 43. You know, yesterday we talked about how
Starting point is 00:01:09 we can come to know God through the world. We can come to know God through looking and our human heart. Today, we're going to kind of launch forward and look a little bit more closely at that. We recognize that we can come to a knowledge of God's existence, God's reality by the light of human reason. And kind of highlighting, yep, while we have the light of human reason that can apprehend, right, that can understand that God truly exists, and even a bit of who God really is, we're going to be limited, which is one of the reasons why God has to reach out and reveal himself to us. Also, we're going to talk about the language in which we speak of God is always going to be
Starting point is 00:01:44 limited, because, you know, God is, as the Catechism will note, from the Liturgy of St. John, Christ's system, God is the inexpressible. He is the incomprehensible. He is the invisible. He is the ungraspable. And so, you know, how do we talk about God? We're going to look at that a little bit today. It's what we launch in. Let's say a prayer, Father in heaven, we give you praise. You are, you are the inexpressible, the incomprehensible, the invisible, the ungraspable. You are a mystery. You're the mystery of mysteries. And yet you reveal your heart to us.
Starting point is 00:02:16 You reveal your identity to us in the world you created, in the human heart that beats inside every one of our chests, in our minds, and in every everything you created, Lord, in some way points to you, our Creator. Help us to get rid of all those things that get in the way, help us to overcome those obstacles that can make it difficult to see you, or difficult to acknowledge your goodness, and open our hearts. Open our minds to not only love and understand you, but also to let you love us. In Jesus' name we pray.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Amen. In the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, as I said, we are reading from chapter 1 in the search, paragraph 36 to 43. The knowledge of God according to the church. The Second Vatican Council stated, Our holy mother, the church, holds and teaches that God, the first principle and last end of all things, can be known with certainty from the created world
Starting point is 00:03:18 by the natural light of human reason. Without this capacity, man would not be able to welcome God's revelation. Man has this capacity because he is created in the image of God. In the historical conditions in which he finds himself, however, man experiences many difficulties in coming to know God by the light of reason alone. Pope Pius XII once wrote, Though human reason is, strictly speaking, truly capable by its own natural power and light of once wrote, effective and fruitful use of this inborn faculty. For the truths that concern their relations between God and Man, holy transcend the visible order of things, and, if they are translated into human action and influence it, they call for self-surrender and abnegation.
Starting point is 00:04:16 The human mind, in its turn, is hampered in the attaining of such truths, not only by the impact of the senses and the imagination, but also by disordered appetites, which are the consequences of original sin. So it happens that men in such matters easily persuade themselves that what they would not like to be true is false, or at least doubtful. This is why man stands in need of being enlightened by God's revelation, not only about those things that exceed his understanding, but also about those religious and moral truths, which of themselves are not beyond the grasp of human reason, so that even in the present condition of the human race, they can be known by all men with ease, with firm certainty, and with no
Starting point is 00:04:55 admixture of error. How can we speak about God? In defending the ability of human reason to know God, the Church is expressing her confidence in the possibility of speaking about Him to all men and with all men, and therefore of dialogue with other religions, with philosophy and science, as well as with unbelievers and atheists. Since our knowledge of God is limited, our language about Him is equally so. We can name God only by taking creatures as our starting point, and in accordance with our limited human ways of knowing and thinking. All creatures bear a certain resemblance to God, most especially man, created in the image
Starting point is 00:05:32 and likeness of God. The manifold perfections of creatures, their truth, their goodness, their beauty, all reflect the infinite perfection of God. Consequently, we can name God by taking as creatures' perfections as our starting point. For from the greatness and beauty of created things comes a corresponding perception of their creator. God transcends all creatures. We must therefore continually purify our language of everything in it that is limited,
Starting point is 00:06:01 image bound or imperfect if we are not to confuse our image of God, the inexpressible, the incomprehensible, the invisible, the ungraspable, with our human representations. Our human words always fall short of the mystery of God. Admittedly, in speaking about God like this, our language is using human modes of expression. Nevertheless, it really does attain to God Himself, though unable to express Him in His infinite simplicity. Likewise, we must recall that between Creator and Creature, no Similitude can be expressed without implying even greater dissimilitude, and that concerning God, we cannot grasp what
Starting point is 00:06:39 He is, but only what He is not, and how other beings stand in relation to him. Okay, so that is paragraphs 36 through 43, and I hope you caught the kind of, I would say, maybe the three main points that are communicated in this section. One is that we can come to a knowledge of God through the light of human reason, and this is, I think, really, really important. I mean, obviously, it's very important, but one of the things that highlights is, if you remember, St. Paul's letter to the Romans, chapter one, St. Paul says that, yes, even those who have never heard of the living and true God will still experience the consequences, experience judgment and say, wait, why? Paul
Starting point is 00:07:19 says, well, because they have the light of human reason. They can look at the world around them and our human capacity for understanding and acknowledging and even coming to know in a certain sense, not only that God exists, but who he is, but the natural light of human reason is embedded in Scripture. They're in St. Paul's letter to the Romans, chapter 1. And going on to say, without this capacity, the Catechism says, without this capacity, you know, that we can come to know God, we would not be able to welcome God's revelation. And we have this capacity because we're making God's image. I love what Pope Pius XII had written. It's a document called Humani Generous. And he says, though human reason is, strictly speaking, truly capable by its own natural power and light of attaining a true and certain knowledge of the one personal God,
Starting point is 00:08:08 he says, yet there are many obstacles which prevent reason from a effective and fruitful use of this inborn faculty. For the truth, the concern the relationship to God and man wholly transcend the visible order of things. That's so good. But he says, but this knowledge calls for self-surrender and abnication. And we realize, oh, that's right. So when I come to know that God is, then it means, oh, I'm not God. When I come to know who God is and who he is calling me to be, that calls for self-surrender and abnication. And the human heart does not want this.
Starting point is 00:08:42 In fact, he goes on to write. The human mind in its turn is hampered in the attaining of these truths, not only by the impact of the senses and imagination, right? I mean, I see a sluice talks about this at one point. He talks about how faith can be a virtue. And one of the pieces there is he says, I can know something is true. This is in the book, Mirror Christianity. See, a sluice says, I can know something is true and still experience fear. Like I can know that there's no monsters underneath the bed, but I can have that moment where I hear something and think, wait, is there Pope Pius,
Starting point is 00:09:11 the twelfth says, the human mind is hampered by the impact of the senses and imagination. I can sometimes, even if I know something is true, I can imagine it to be false. It goes on to say, our disorder d'appetites, right? So we have these consequences of original sin, we're gonna talk about those later on. One of those is that I want what's not good for me, or I want to use what's good for me in a way that's not good for me, or good for others.
Starting point is 00:09:34 The other way to say it is, disordered appetites. And Pope Papaya's, the 12th says, so it happens that us, here we are in such matters, easily persuade ourselves that what we would not like to be true is false, or at least doubtful. And it's like, yep, I experienced that all of the time, and I appreciate you pointing that out for me. But we go beyond this and recognize in the next section of how can we speak about God? This is the next part, and the next part is the church saying essentially, our knowledge of God is limited. Even though he has revealed himself to us, even though we recognize we've received the
Starting point is 00:10:08 fullness of revelation of God, yet God is still, as we said before, the inexpressible, he is the incomprehensible, he's the invisible, he's the ungraspable, that all of our human words will always fall short of who God actually and truly is. In fact, I remember there was a discussion with an atheist and a Christian, and it was, you know, kind of a publicized maybe discussion slash debate. And at one point, the atheist acknowledged and he said, listen, okay, I can acknowledge that maybe there is this ultimate ground of being that from which all things flow. But if that's true, he is far more. This being is far more
Starting point is 00:10:45 than any of us have ever imagined. And the Christian said, exactly, you are completely right. And that's what the Catechism is saying now. When it comes to our language, we're going to be using words we did all last year when it comes to the Scripture. Here's God revealing himself using human words, human language. For the next year, we're going to be going through all these words describing God, describing our relationship with God, trying to capture into human language. For the next year, we're going to be going through all these words, describing God, describing our relationship with God, trying to capture into human language, something and someone who is inexpressible and uncapturable. And so we recognize our language will always fall short. And yet, and yet this is so good, the last paragraph notes, and yet we try. And we try. He says, our language is using human modes of
Starting point is 00:11:25 expression. Yep, that's fine. Nevertheless, it really does attain to God himself. So it actually does reveal something to us about God. Yes, while almost all words, when it comes to God, are analogies? We recognize that while analogies point out similarities, there are always more dis similarities than there are similarities. And we realize this. We had this quote from the letter and council for that says that we know this between creator and creature, no similarity can be expressed without implying even greater dissimilitude.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And so, yeah, we have similarities between God who is the father and our fathers. Oh, that makes sense. There's a similarity, but the church is saying, yes, yes, yes, but there is also an even greater dissimilar dissimilar dissimilar diss. They're always they're more different than they are the same. I'll say I like that. Tomorrow, this is going to be great. Tomorrow is going to be one of those days where we get to go back over this whole first chapter and in brief. So it's going to be essentially six or so bullet point chapters and that's tomorrow. You have a little short. Maybe you might say half day, half day for you tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:12:31 As we continue to read through the catacasem. You guys, I am praying for you. We're only on day five, but we are trucking along and I am praying for you. Please pray for me. My name is Father Mike. I cannot wait to see you tomorrow. God bless.

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