The Catechism in a Year (with Fr. Mike Schmitz) - Day 67: The Humanity and Divinity of Christ (2025)
Episode Date: March 8, 2025Fr. Mike teaches us more about the divine and human natures of the second person of the Holy Trinity, the Word that became flesh, Jesus Christ. Jesus became like us in all things but sin; as such, he ...has a human soul, intellect, will, and body without losing any of his divinity. Father Mike tells us that in his human nature, Jesus thought with a human mind, worked with human hands, and loved with a human heart. Christ needed to learn things, and he increased in wisdom and understanding. The full humanity and true divinity of Jesus is a great mystery of our faith. Today’s readings are Catechism paragraphs 470-474. This episode has been found to be in conformity with the Catechism by the Institute on the Catechism, under the Subcommittee on the Catechism, USCCB. For the complete reading plan, visit ascensionpress.com/ciy Please note: The Catechism of the Catholic Church contains adult themes that may not be suitable for children - parental discretion is advised.
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Hi, my name is Father Mike Schmitz and you're listening to the Catechism in a Year podcast
where we encounter God's plan of sheer goodness for us, revealed in scripture and passed down
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Toward our heavenly home. It is day 67 you guys I forgot to mention this but it's only you know, 290 I
Can't the math 293 days note 298 days left to go. Yes, you're doing so well. Is that right? That's accurate
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We're reading paragraphs 470 to 474 only five short paragraphs today because we're diving deeply into that mystery of how is God made man?
And also what is the mind of Jesus? Like how does he what's his intellect all about? How does he learn? Did he learn?
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paragraphs 470 474 big question in 470 the header the header is called
How is the Son of God man? And one of the things we realize is that
When we say Jesus Christ is true God and true man
He became human without losing his divinity and he remained divine without losing his humanity.
And this is just remarkable.
You know, not only we talk about the fact that Jesus' human nature or the human nature was assumed not absorbed, right?
Remember, we talked about this yesterday.
One of the heresies that would say that when God took on human nature, it was like alka-selture in
the drop of water, just absorbed the whole thing and just yes, he took on human nature originally,
but then ultimately, you know, I don't say lost it, but essentially absorbed, right? Obliterated,
almost dissolved it because how could human nature contain divinity, which yeah, that's a great
question. It's the mystery of the
incarnation. So, one of the things the Church has been affirming is that human nature was
assumed not absorbed, in the sense it wasn't overwritten. In fact, Jesus had, we say it
like this, that Jesus had a human soul with all of its operations of intellect and will and of his human body.
Now that is really, really important. Jesus had a human soul with his operations of intellect and
will, meaning he had a human intellect, had a human will and a human body. Now that's going
to be really important because it's in Christ's human body, in that will that he conforms his will
to the will of the Father. He ascends intellectually and with everything he is to the to the Father's will.
He obeys the Father in everything as a human being and of course also as a divine being.
And this is really really important that there's nothing that Christ did not assume of human nature except our brokenness.
He didn't assume our sin. He became like us in all things but sin. Now, in parallel fashion, this is all in paragraph 470,
in parallel fashion the church had to recall on every occasion that Christ's human nature belongs
as his own to the divine person of the Son of God who assumed it, right? So, yes, Christ has a human
soul, operations of intellect and will, human body, and also, and every occasion,
his human nature belongs as his own to the divine person of the Son of God who assumed it,
which means that everything that Christ is and does in this nature derives from one of the Trinity.
This is so important. In this paragraph, I invite you to take a look at paragraph 470. Every sentence
Paragraph, I invite you to take a look at paragraph 470. Every sentence clarifies something
even more profound about Jesus.
For example, the very next sentence after what I just said
is, the Son of God therefore communicates to his humanity
his own personal mode of existence in the Trinity.
Ken, reflect on this.
The Son of God, okay, right here,
we're a second person of the Trinity,
communicates to his humanity
his own personal mode of existence in the Trinity.
What's that mean?
That means that what's the personal mode
of existence in the Trinity?
Well, he is the Son of the Father.
He's that second person of the Trinity.
He receives the Father's love
and he pours himself back out in love to the Father
and that love is the Holy Spirit, right?
It's a third person of the Trinity
so
Jesus communicates to his humanity that mode of existence that he communicates to his humanity that true
reality of being the only begotten son of the father which is just
Incredible and I just it is amazing. So we're talking more about that Also, the other thing we're gonna look at today again only five short paragraphs is
Christ's soul and his human knowledge now remember that when we use the term his human soul
Me we are referring to a lot of things but what is its operations of intellect and will
So that we think like or intellect that's our brain. Well, yes and no I mean our thoughts happen in our brain, but there's a thing
That is super super brain is above supra
Maybe say supra brain where we have we have a mind not just a brain and that intellect right that mind
is a human mind and
That mind is a human mind.
And here is Jesus who in his human soul is the operations of a human mind, an intellect,
and a human will, the ability to choose.
And so the question is, how does that human mind grow?
How does that human mind learn?
Is Christ's intellect, was he immediately born and he could speak and the church would say no as a
Human being right because he had a human nature
Sorry, he's a divine person with a human and divine nature by both of those in his human nature
he had to learn and
So this is really important. This is why the Son of God could in paragraph 4 72
This is why the Son of God could could when he became man
Increase in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man
He would even have to ask questions now at the same time the cataclysm we're gonna hear this at the same time
This truly human knowledge that he had
Expressed the divine life of his person which means is yes. yes, he had to learn, he had to grow.
And that human knowledge of God's Son expressed the divine life of his person.
So human is the quote we have from Maximus the confessor.
The human nature of God's Son, not by itself, but by its union with the Word, knew and showed
forth in itself everything that pertains to God. So yes,
his human intellect was limited, had to grow at the same time that human intellect is united,
united with the divine, right? With the divine intellect, the divine nature that he would have.
And with what, how does that work? It is a mystery, but we're going to talk a little bit about that mystery today.
Tomorrow we'll look at Christ's human will and Christ's true body.
But today we're sticking with Christ's soul, his intellect, human knowledge, and this reality
that is so profound.
Okay, with all that introductory stuff out of the way, let's say a prayer.
Father in heaven, we thank you.
We thank you for the mystery, as confusing as we
might be, the mystery of the incarnation of your Son Jesus Christ. That second
person of the Trinity, the Word that became flesh and dwelt among us. And we
saw his glory, the glory as of a Father's only Son. Because Father, you so loved
the world that you gave your Son, so
that everyone who believed in him might not perish, but might have eternal life. Today,
help us to know more and more about your Son. Help us today to accept Him even more fully.
Help us today to be loved by Him and to receive that love as we are loved by you and receive your love.
In Jesus name we pray, Amen. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
Amen. As I said, it's day 67. We're reading paragraphs 470 to 474.
How is the Son of God man? Because human nature was assumed, not absorbed, in the mysterious union of the Incarnation,
the Church was led over the course of centuries to confess the full reality of Christ's human
soul with its operations of intellect and will and of His human body.
In parallel fashion, she had to recall on each occasion that Christ's human nature
belongs as His own to the Divine Person of the Son of God who assumed it.
Everything that Christ is and does in this nature derives from one of the Trinity.
The Son of God therefore communicates to His humanity His own personal mode of existence
in the Trinity.
In His soul as in His body, Christ thus expresses humanly the divine ways of the Trinity.
As Gaudium et Spes stated,
The Son of God worked with human hands, He thought with a human mind, He acted with a
human will and with a human heart He loved.
Born of the Virgin Mary, He has truly been made one of us, like to us in all things except
sin.
Christ's Soul and His Human Knowledge Apollinarius of Laodicea asserted that in
Christ the Divine Word had replaced the soul or spirit.
Against this error, the Church confessed that the Eternal Son also assumed a rational human
soul.
This human soul that the Son of God assumed is endowed with a true human knowledge.
As such, this knowledge could not in itself be unlimited.
It was exercised in the historical conditions of his existence in space and time.
This is why the Son of God could, when he became man, increase in wisdom and in stature,
and in favor with God and man, and would even have to inquire for himself about what one
in the human condition can learn only from experience.
This corresponded to the reality of his voluntary emptying of himself, taking the form of a slave.
But at the same time, this truly human knowledge of God's Son expressed the divine life of his person.
As Saint Maximus the Confessor wrote,
As St. Maximus the Confessor wrote, The human nature of God's Son, not by itself, but by its union with the Word, knew and showed forth in itself everything that pertains to
God.
Such is first of all the case with the intimate and immediate knowledge that the Son of God-made
man has of his Father.
The Son in His human knowledge also showed the divine penetration He had into the secret
thoughts of human hearts. in his human knowledge also showed the divine penetration he had into the secret thoughts
of human hearts.
By its union to the divine wisdom in the person of the word incarnate, Christ enjoyed in his
human knowledge the fullness of understanding of the eternal plans he had come to reveal.
What he admitted to not knowing in this area, he elsewhere declared himself not sent to
reveal.
Okay, so wow, isn't that, I mean, there's a mouthful, obviously,
but it is so incredibly beautiful.
Again, yesterday, I know it was a long day
with a lot of heresies.
The one heresy we're really,
well, kind of we're really focusing on is Apollinarius.
I've allowed to see it.
I don't know if you caught that, it was in paragraph 471.
He asserted that in Christ,
the divine word had replaced the
solar spirit, right? So that Jesus didn't have a human soul, didn't have a human spirit,
that his divinity kind of basically just like, no, that'll be in the place there. Now against this error,
the church confessed that the eternal son had also assumed a rational human soul. And that's so important. Why?
Because one of the things we realize is just what Gott in its spes stated at the end of paragraph 470
This is so important. The incarnation was not simply it was not at all God
absorbing humanity
It was
The fact that in taking on a human nature
God worked with human hands.
Gaudium et Spesis says this, he thought with a human mind, he acted with a human will and
with a human heart he loved.
Why is that so important?
Because in all of this, one of the many reasons, because in all of this, Jesus Christ is redeeming
the whole life of humanity.
In this, Jesus Christ is living in full union, in full obedience to the Father, not only
as the eternal divine Son, but in that human nature.
So here is a human nature, a human intellect, a human will that consistently is obedient,
consistently is willing what the Father wills.
This is so vitally important for us because there's not one aspect of humanity,
not one aspect of the human reality that Jesus has not entered into and has therefore redeemed.
And that is so, so important for us. Again, paragraph 472. It says, this human soul that
the Son of God assumed is endowed with a true human knowledge. So because of that, that
knowledge could not be unlimited.
Again, as I mentioned in the long intro today,
is we recognize that Jesus wasn't born
speaking every language, that he had to learn Aramaic.
Right, if he had to learn Greek,
he had to learn Latin if he ever learned Latin.
You have to, he probably didn't know English,
we'll say it like that.
Now, obviously, the eternal God,
there's nothing he doesn't know
But in assuming a true human soul by intellect and will he actually assumed true human knowledge
Which means it says this?
It's oh gosh is so good He would even have to inquire for himself about what one in the human condition can learn only from experience
Had to ask questions.
Questions that he wouldn't know the answer to.
This corresponds to the reality, it says in paragraph 472, this corresponds to the reality
of his voluntary emptying of himself, taking the form of his slave.
Again, just to highlight this, it seems shocking.
Well, it actually doesn't seem shocking.
It is shocking. Well, it actually doesn't seem shocking. It is shocking that God would love us so much that
he would empty himself and take on limited a
limited human intellect
Limited human will limited human power in a body that actually could suffer and I would talk about that tomorrow
But this is remarkable
That even to limit his intellect
so that he could live like us in all things,
taking the form of a slave.
Now, the catechism, the church wants to make it very,
very clear at the same time, this is paragraph 473,
at the same time, this truly human knowledge
truly expressed the divine life of his person.
I love that, that quote we already read now twice
from St. Maximus the confessor.
The human nature of God's Son, not by itself, but by its union with the Word, knew and showed forth
in itself everything that pertains to God. That is one of the reasons why Jesus could say,
whoever has seen me has seen the Father. Because truly, he's always been, from eternity is the
second person in the train, right? From eternity he is the Son of the Father.
And even when he assumed that human nature, he remained the Son of the Father.
So incredible.
So incredible.
Last thought, last paragraph, 474.
It goes on to say, by its union to the divine wisdom in the person of the word incarnate,
so good, that Christ enjoyed in his human in the person of the word incarnate. So good.
That Christ enjoyed in his human knowledge the fullness of understanding of the eternal
plans he had come to reveal.
So Jesus, he didn't walk around thinking like, what's happening now?
Why are they torturing me?
Why are they arresting me?
Why are they rejecting me?
He knew going into this with the knowledge, the divine wisdom.
He enjoyed in his human knowledge the fullness of understanding the eternal plans he had
come to reveal.
So we can realize this, that here is God who embraced suffering, knowing fully what would
happen to him.
I think for you and for me, one of the things that hurts the most about
About suffering is not just necessarily the moment of suffering but knowing that it's coming right? I knowing that it's on its way
And here's Jesus
Who enjoyed in his human knowledge?
the fullness of understanding of the eternal plans had come to reveal
and we can just sit back and marvel at that.
Actually, we should enter into that in prayer
and recognize that God, in taking on human nature,
you knew what you were doing.
You knew you would be rejected.
You knew that you would be despised.
You knew that the people you were giving your heart to
would be the people who would pierce your heart.
And that's God's love for you.
That's God's love for me today.
See, what we're talking about today is,
this whole, these last 67 days,
again, as we say it so many times,
it's not just about information transfer,
but it's about transformation.
It's about falling in information transfer, but it's about transformation. It's about
Falling in love with this God
So knowing more and more about his his intellect in his will knowing more and more that he had to grow but at the same Time as he grew he had this in his human knowledge the fullness of understanding of the eternal plans
He'd come to reveal and said yes to that
With every breath said yes to that with every heartbeat
Man, it just it can actually break your heart if you pray about it. And so I
hope you're praying about it. I know I am. And I'm praying for you. Please,
please pray for me. My name is Father Mike. I cannot wait to see you tomorrow.
God bless.