The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source - #define: I'm going pants (Friends)

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. We've gathered some awesome friends, new and old, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick the... everyone else into thinking that they do.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to changelog and friends. A weekly talk show about osobuna. Thanks to our partners at fly.io. The public cloud built for developers who ship. We love Fly. You might too. Learn all about it at fly.io. Okay, let's play.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Well friends, I'm here with Terrence Lee talking about what's coming for the next generation of Heroku. They're calling this next-gen Fur. Terrence, one of the biggest moves for Fur in this next generation of Heroku, it's being built on open standards and cloud-native. What can you share about this journey? If you look at the last half a decade or so, there's been a lot that has changed in the
Starting point is 00:01:03 industry. A lot of the 12 factorisms that have been popularized and are well accepted even outside the Ruby community are things that are think table stakes for building modern applications, right? And so being able to take all those things from kind of 10-14 years ago, being able to revisit and be like, okay, we helped popularize a lot of these things, we now don't need to be our own island of this stuff. And it's just better to be part of the broader ecosystem. Like you said, since Heroku's existence, there's been people who've been
Starting point is 00:01:31 trying to rebuild Heroku. I feel like there's a good Kelsey quote. When are we going to stop trying to rebuild Heroku? It's like, like people keep trying to like build their own version of Heroku, like internally at their own company, let alone the public offerings out there. I mean, I feel like Heroku's been the gold standard. Yeah, I mean, I think it's the gold standard because there's a thing that Heroku's hit
Starting point is 00:01:52 this piece of magic around developer experience, but giving you enough flexibility and power to do what you need to do. Okay, so part of Fur and this next generation of Heroku is adding support for.NET. What can you share about that? Why.NET and why now? I think if you look at.NET over the last decade,
Starting point is 00:02:10 it's changed a lot. .NET is known for being this Windows only platform. You have WinForms, use it to build a Windows stuff, double IS, and it's moved well beyond that over the last decade. You can build.NET on Linux, on Mac. There's this whole cross-platform open source ecosystem and it's become this juggernaut of an ecosystem around it.
Starting point is 00:02:32 And we've gotten this ask to support.NET for a long time. It isn't a new ask. And regardless of our support of it, like people have been running.NET on Heroku in production today. There's been a mono build pack since the early days when you couldn't run.NET on Linux. And now with.NET on Heroku in production today. There's been a mono build pack since the early days when you couldn't run.NET on Linux, and now with.NET Core, the fact that it's cross platform
Starting point is 00:02:48 this.NET Core build pack that people are using to run their apps on Heroku. The kind of shift now is to take it from that to a first class citizen. And so what that means for Heroku is we have this languages team, we're now staffing someone to basically live, breathe, and eat being a.NET person, right?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Someone from the community that we've plucked to be this person to provide that day zero support for the language and runtimes that you expect in, like we have for all of our languages, right? To answer your support and deal with all those things when you open support tickets on Heroku and kind of all the documentation that you expect for having quality language support in the platform. In addition to that, one of the things that it means for having qualities language support in the platform in addition to that One of the things that it means to be first-class is that when we are building out new features and things is now one of The languages as part of this ecosystem that we're gonna test and make sure run smoothly, right?
Starting point is 00:03:37 So you can get this kind of end-to-end experience. You can go to Dev Center There's a dotnet icon to find all the dotnet documentation Take your app, create a new Heroku app, run Get Push Heroku main, and you're off to the races. So with the coming release of Fur and this next generation of Heroku, dotnet is officially a first class language on the platform, dedicated support, dedicated documentation, all the things. If you haven't yet, go to heroku.com slash changelog podcast and get excited about what's to come for Roku. Once again, heroku.com
Starting point is 00:04:13 slash changelog podcast. Welcome to Pound Define. This is a game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. Our contestants checked their imposter syndrome at the door because they either know what these words mean or they're going to fake it until they make their peers think they know. Let's introduce our players in the order they will be playing. First up, she's our female equivalent of Matt Ryer. And if you don't know what I mean, you will know as soon as she begins talking,
Starting point is 00:04:51 it's Angelica Hill. Hello. I'm very excited to be here. I hope to prove my worth outside of just being the female replacement for Matt Ryer because he couldn't make it today. That is the goal is to win the female replacement for Matt Ryer, because he couldn't make it today. That is the goal, is to win and also usurp Matt Ryer as the best Brit on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Well, I like your odds. I like your odds. Plain second, our friend fresh off of Oxide and Friends, Matthew Sinabria, what's up, Matt? Hey, what's up? Glad to be here in Fake It, even though I made it, right? You did make it. You showed up in the right place at the right time,
Starting point is 00:05:31 but you still might have to fake some things. Plane Third, he's mysterious, he's a brake master, he's our beat freak, he's Brake Master Cylinder. Hi. What's up, BMC, how are you? Fine, I think. Thank you for having me on ScienceLayer. We are very excited.
Starting point is 00:05:50 We wanted to have you talk about the new album, AfterParty, but you're like, we've talked about music a lot, let's do something else. And so I was like, come play a game with us. Yeah, thanks. I know nothing about this, so it's perfect. I can talk about music.
Starting point is 00:06:02 But if I were to ask you about our brand new album called AfterParty, what would you say about it? Oh God, it's perfect. I can talk about music. But if I were to ask you about our brand new album called After Party, what would you say about it? Oh God, it's just the best. Oh man, the sounds, the notes, the levels. The beats. Yes. Unreal. And new to the change log, but not new to me, we've been Omaha acquaintances for many years.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's John Henry Moeller. What's up, man? Oh, hey. Hello from Omaha. You're somewhere. Hello also from Omaha. Well, the greater Omaha area. Not better then, but just outside.
Starting point is 00:06:37 That's where I live. All right. Maybe also better, I don't know. We'll see. And playing last, because we are gracious hosts around these parts. My partner in podcasting, Adam Stokowiak. What's up, man?
Starting point is 00:06:51 What's up, what's up? I'm here to win. Fifth time's a charm. Count to five, five, here we go. And of course, LB, you're not so humble host, Jared Santo. Here is how the game works. We have 10 rounds of play or 15 points scored, whichever comes first. I will present a word.
Starting point is 00:07:17 You all will either know the definition of the word and submit that to me, or you will make up a fake definition that acts as if it's the actual definition and see if you can trick everyone else into selecting yours. If you know the correct definition immediately, you get three points and you also get to take a break and sit that round out because you already know the answer. If after I read all the definitions,
Starting point is 00:07:41 you guess the correct one, you get two points and for each person you trick into selecting your definition You get one point Now if all five of you fail in any given round to select the correct definition I you are not so humble host receive four points and if I do that enough times, you all lose, which would be rad, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And your word for round one is baryon. Baryon, B-A-R-Y-O-N. Please submit to me your definitions now. I'm just adding some finesse to mine. I know the definition, I just need to make sure I've explained it clearly enough. Fair. Smart even. See this game is nice because you get like time to check your email
Starting point is 00:08:38 and maybe code up a feature. It's not like a typical podcast where you have to be on the whole time. That's nice. I'm going to find a therapist. You might have enough time. We are not allowed to use the internet. I just assume. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:58 I mean, you don't want to ruin the game. I mean, nobody wants that. Can you hear this? We're off on a quest. Nobody wants that. Can you hear this? We're off on a quest. Are you here? You do hear it. Have you ever played Bomb Corp? It's one of those like
Starting point is 00:09:16 Jackbox party games. No. This sounds like the inter music for it. Basically, you diffuse bombs. You know, I played Bomberman. Yeah. Check it out.
Starting point is 00:09:27 It sounds very similar vibe. Alright, so Adam and BMC are both trailing indicators. This I think is the actual track that I use in the produced episode during this time. It's kind of nice, right? It's giving me Black Mirror vibes from the recent season. This is a BMC original. It's called Study Hall Adventure. Do you remember making this one?
Starting point is 00:09:57 I do. I remember the video game I was picturing while writing it. Was it Bomb Corp? You've made so much music in your life, I wonder if you like forget songs, you know, yeah Yes, well titles especially yeah All right Adams in I'm also known for going last. Yeah, so BMC's winning beating you It's good you're thoughtful
Starting point is 00:10:38 Before submission I said I got stressed out and submitted it and then ended up I ended up editing the message after I sent it. Do you want to resubmit? No, I can edit the message once I've sent it to you. Well, I copy it out of there and put it somewhere else. I'll recopy it. No, it was just slight grammatical errors that I needed to correct. I'll recopy it then so I get your edits. Thank you. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And I added a little clarification on the end just to make it crystal clear. Is this on the album? No it is not. This is actually a really long track. It's like 50 minutes long. They were like make it one level. Like if it was a hard level and you keep playing it over and over for like an hour. Yeah. You sort of get used to the same music. You can go over and do it like that. I have all definitions for Berry On. I will read them now and then you all will guess which one you think is correct.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Starting with Angelica and going from there. So, Berry On, a universally recognized culinary term for a cooking technique that covers the entirety of a cake or pastry in various berries. Berry covered or enrobed in berries, it originates from the Greek berry for berry and on to put on, so baryon. That was number one.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Number two, the byproduct of a chemical reaction between two or more gases. Number three, a particle used as a comparison marker in microscopic weight measurements. Number four, a chemical mixture often used in sterilization for surgery. Number five, a new element under review to be added to the periodic table of elements. And number six, composite particles made up of three quarks such as protons and neutrons. There you have it, six possible definitions for baryon.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It's now up to you all to decide which one is the actual definition. Starting with Angelica, which one do you think is real? I mean, I feel like, they're chemical, molecular or culinary, these are my three options. Yes. Can I hear the third one again?
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, the third one was a particle used as a comparison marker in microscopic weight measurements. Okay, the one about medical procedures I think isn't right. The one about a chemical mixture often used in sterilization. So that's number four. You think that's it or not it?
Starting point is 00:13:06 No, not it. Why not? I just don't think it's correct. Something in my bones tells me. I feel like if a doctor came into my room and said, oh, we're about to inject you with Berion, I'd be like, no, you're not. Very assertive of you. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:13:25 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:13:39 I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not doctoring? Oh, I think that might be. It's just not the vibe.
Starting point is 00:13:46 Let's call it something else. All right. I think it might need to be the second one that I asked you to repeat. Okay. Which one was that one? The second one or the second one you asked me to repeat. The first one that I asked you to repeat.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Okay. That I believe was the second. Number three was a particle used as a comparison marker in microscopic. That's yours right there? Okay, we'll lock that in. Alright, Matthew, which one do you think is real? There was a number of them of the definitions around chemical sort of deals. I think there were maybe two or three of them.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Can you repeat those? So definition number four was a chemical mixture often used in sterilization for surgery. Number five was a new element. Is that the one you're thinking of or no? Possibly. And number six was composite particles made up of three quarks.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Quarks or quirks? Quarks. Can you, you're gonna need to say that better. Quarks, Q-U-A-R-K-S. Say it better, Jared. I'm saying it as best as I can. There's also number two, the byproduct of a chemical reaction between two or more gases.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Oh, so there's like four chemically definitions. There's a lot that are in the same little category. Oh, okay. What are you thinking? I think since there's so many chemical II things maybe it's wrong It sounds like it would be around maybe it's yeah I could either go one way it's either it's completely wrong or it's like in the area. It's a lot of stuff, man That's what it is. Okay. I'm I think I'm gonna choose the one that you couldn't pronounce. Well
Starting point is 00:15:20 Okay So quarks. Yeah that That one. Quarks. Quarks. Quarks. That choice was quirky. Okay. Now, we go to BMC. What do you think?
Starting point is 00:15:33 Gases. Yeah, I have notes. Good job. I like how efficient you are. Yeah, it says gases right there. Tangible. I like having a pencil. It's gas.
Starting point is 00:15:44 BMC takes two. John Henry, your turn. Number three was the one that was the measurement one? Yes, that's correct. I'm gonna go with that one. I think. All right. So you're going with Angelica.
Starting point is 00:15:56 She picked that one as well. So we have two for that one. And lastly, Adam. Would it be a total pain to have you repeat them all? Absolutely. Which one do you need? All of them. All of them.
Starting point is 00:16:11 All of them. All of them. All of them. Which one specifically? Let me summarize all six in order, okay? I'm not gonna read them verbatim. Number one was the culinary one. Number two was the byproduct of two or more gases.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Number three was the one that's used in microscopic weight measurements. Number four is the chemical mixture used in surgery, except for not angelica surgeries. And number five, a new element under review to be in the table of elements. And then number six, composite particles made up of three quarks.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I'm thinking element. That's a new element. You're going for a new element. That's right. Okay. All right, all six answers are in, but who landed on the right definition? Let's start right there where we left off.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Adam, you selected a new element under review to be added by the pirate to the... Adam, that was yours. You gotta go away, boy. I love you. He's distracted. He was distracted. Did you see Patrick? I know. Go with Patrick. Mom's away, dads will play, okay? Okay. I had to watch a little bit of Spongebob real quick, but I'm back.
Starting point is 00:17:23 He's back. Are you distracted, Adam? Because you selected your of SpongeBob real quick, but I'm back. He's back. Are you distracted out of, because you selected your own definition. Oh no, that was on purpose. Okay. Okay. So selecting your own,
Starting point is 00:17:33 while it may trick other people, you get zero points for doing that. And you went last. So the trick couldn't happen either. Interesting. Let's move on. Oh yeah. It's safe though, right?
Starting point is 00:17:46 Because then you're not. It is a safe flight. Let's move on to what BMC thought it was. The byproduct of a chemical reaction between two more gases. He even wrote down gas right there on his piece of paper. That was Matthew's. So one point to Matthew. Speaking of Matthew, he thought it was the quirky one that I couldn't pronounce.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And you know what? That's exactly what baryon is. So he got it correct. Baryon, composite particles made up of three quarks such as protons and neutrons. You get two points. So everyone who mispronounces the definition got it. Okay, we're in this.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We know what we're doing now. But there are more points to give out because both Angelica and John Henry piled onto BMC's definition. The weight measurements, that was BMC. So two points, BMC. Not bad. I thought I was tricked.
Starting point is 00:18:31 I thought I was tricked by Angelica. No. Nope. You're tricked by BMC. Yeah. But I was right. It was not used for surgical procedures. So my gut instinct was correct.
Starting point is 00:18:42 100%. That was his. Yeah. Now there is a Barry Yum, isn't there? Isn't that a thing that they do for like enemas and stuff? Over beryllium? Maybe. I'm just a vibe doctor, not a real doctor.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Pure vibes. All right, so after round one, Matthew's in the lead with three, BMC has two, and the rest of us have not scored quite yet. We move now to round two, and the word for round two is jaggies. Jaggies.
Starting point is 00:19:16 J-A-G-G-I-E-S, jaggies. Please submit your definition for jaggies now. Are we saying these are all stem words They are in the general world of that but they're not specifically They just call them like yes ish don't know They aren't strictly stem, but they are certainly stemmy Like one time you were like oh, what was that word?
Starting point is 00:19:56 Gallifrey get mmm. Yes with food. It was a big stew right In previous games we've had stem rounds and non stem rounds and today I just decided just throw out the rules and just do words Okay All right, Adam is in he's not the last one this time around. I'm fighting for my right to party man Get your juggies on I'm trying to move like juggies If I didn't know the definition I would have I would have gone that direction and we don't laugh Oh There's BMC coming in hot
Starting point is 00:20:34 I submitted myself mine right away. Sorry, you knew what it was Sympathico you and me All right. We have six definitions for jaggies only one of them is actually the definition. Here they are. Number one, containers used to hold raw mining material before being processed. Number two, stair-stepped edges in pixelated graphics due to low resolution or aliasing. Number three, comfortable pants for remote working, a play on jeggings. Number four, an irregular pathway taken by an object in response to magnetic stimuli. Number five, in digital photography, when an image is not clear, the image will have jaggies.
Starting point is 00:21:20 And number six, a Gen Z slang term, initially used in colloquial typing and texting to refer to the lightning bolt emoji. And this usage has now transitioned into the realm of software engineering. In this technical context, jaggies indicates sections within code where high computational load or intensive processing is handled, drawing a visual parallel to the sharp energetic nature of a lightning bolt and its link to electricity. Okay. Oh my gosh. Now you've heard all six definitions.
Starting point is 00:21:55 We start with Matthew. Which one do you think is actual? Can you repeat please? Number two, four and five. I wrote them down this time, but I didn't get a chance to write them all down. It's all good. It's hard to keep track of all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Okay, number two was the stair-stepped edges in pixelated graphics. Number, do you want the full thing due to low resolution or aliasing? Number four is in a regular pathway taken by an object in response to magnetic stimuli. And number five is in digital photography When an image is not clear the image will have jaggies
Starting point is 00:22:30 Okay, I'm between two and four here. Okay, stair step edges do daily aliasing that sounds that sounds right But so does the magnetic stimuli of irregular pathways. That sounds fun, too Right. I'm gonna lock in number four with the magnetic stuff. All right, number four locked in. Hmm. I go now to BMC. Can you rapid fire go through all of them? As short as you like.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I just wanna hear how you say it. Go. Number one was the containers that hold raw mining material. Number two was the pixelated graphics. Number three was comfortable pants. Number four was the pixelated graphics. Number three was comfortable pants. Number four was the irregular pathway. Number five is the digital photography. And number six was the Gen Z slang term.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I'm going pants. I love your conviction. He's going pants. All right, John Henry, your turn. Oof, pants sounds pretty convincing there. Also the very run on Gen Z term. Wow, there was so much detail. How can it be wrong, right?
Starting point is 00:23:35 I mean, that's, but I think I'm gonna have to go with number four, the pathways. That was convincing and not an obvious sound to the term. So I like that. Piling on with Matthew on number four. How about you, Adam? I'll spread it out. I'm going for the last one because whoever wrote that deserves some points.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Adam picks the Gen Z slang term for the lightning bolt emoji that turned into a software engineering term. Well, you guys know the rest. Next up, Angelica. Last up, Angelica. Can you write me down? I wrote down two, four, and six. So four, I remember. Two was the jagged edge.
Starting point is 00:24:17 What was the two one? Yeah, the stair stepped edges and pixelated graphics due to low resolution or aliasing. Mm-hmm, okay. And four is the one that Matthew and John Henry both picked. And six is the lightning bolt emoji. Draggy's just too fun to not be to do
Starting point is 00:24:32 with something that's visual. But I don't think it's a photography one. As someone who aspires to be able to understand Gen Z, I think I'll go with the last one. So you are picking the last one. Maybe it'll make me cool. Yeah, I can whip it out if it's correct. Talk to the Gen Z's, get some cred.
Starting point is 00:24:52 That would be cool. Well, Adam also picked that one, so let's start right there and see maybe that is what Jaggies are. However, Angelica, didn't you write that one? Yeah, I did. Yeah, you're right. It was so cool.
Starting point is 00:25:06 It deserved to be selected. So you don't get any points for selecting it yourself, but you do get one point for getting Adam to select it. See, well done. Sympatico. Now, Matthew and John Henry piled on to number four, an irregular pathway taken by an object in response to magnetic stimuli.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Well, that was very convincing and that was BMC's made up definition. Good job, BMC. Very nice. Two points for you, which means it's up to BMC to actually select correctly. Otherwise, you're not so humble host gets the points this round.
Starting point is 00:25:38 You thought it was comfortable pants for remote work. Play on jeggings. What do you think? Is that right? Do I think it's right? It's either that or the stairs thing. But yeah, let's go all in on pants. All in on pants and all out on the correct answer.
Starting point is 00:25:56 So four points for me. The correct definition of jaggies is stair stepped edges and pixelated graphics due to low resolution or aliasing. That's what I was trying to say with my photography one. You were somewhat close, I almost gave you the points.
Starting point is 00:26:09 You should give it to me, that's what it is. That's what I know from photography. You used the word jaggies in the definition and you can't do that, so I just, I couldn't give it to you. That's what I meant. Damn, these are tough rules. You know where I'm at with this. I'm getting robbed here, y'all.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Wait, are you not allowed to put the name, the word in the definition? Is that not allowed? Well, I mean, technically when you define something, you're not supposed to use the word in the definition. I didn't know the clinical version of it. I just knew when an image isn't clear, you get those jaggies.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Jaggedy. The jaggies. I don't think that's usually for photography though. That's usually more like... The context is more video game dev. Yeah, that's what I figured it would be. Yeah. If you had said video games, I probably would have given it to you.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Well, I only know it in the context of photography. I'm sorry. That's all right. It's like saying a bite is not a bite because you experience it somewhere else. So, you know, still a bite. What are you biting into over there? Like someone's leg? A bit or a bite?
Starting point is 00:27:00 That'd be jaggy. All right, let's move down to round three. Well, hold on. Let's add up these totals because you know what? I might have Let's move down around three. Well, hold on. Let's add up these totals because you know what? I might have just moved in the first place. Oh, I did. I am tied with BMC in first place with four points.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Matthew has three, Angelica one and so far. Sir, I think your math is incorrect. Isn't it three for getting someone or isn't it three for guessing the correct definition? It's three if you guess it initially. It's two if you guess it at the end. So had Adam actually just given me the correct definition, even though he was somewhat close, he would have got three immediately.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But if you guess it correctly at the end, you get two. Oh, okay. If you guess it correctly during, okay, I understand that. After you hear the definitions, yes. Okay, so your math is correct. I understand that. Thank you. And you get a point when somebody guesses yours. It's fooled, yeah. That's right. Like picks your pants. Oh, my bad. You're right. Oh, thank you. And you get a point when somebody guesses yours. That's cool, yeah. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Like picks your pants. Oh, my bad, you're right. Oh, thank you. Fair, fair. So my math is wrong. I just didn't write that point down. You was the pants one, John? Yeah, he was the pants one.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I just forgot because I was moving on to the fact that I won the round. Yeah, that was a good one. Jeggings, I liked it. I feel like I'm learning already in this game that the more detailed the answer, other than Adam who appreciates it, gotta keep it short and sweet.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yeah, you're writing books over there. Just letting my creativity fly. That was very creative, I liked it. It's hard for me to read that long without starting to laugh. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'll try to make, I'll make them shorter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:19 I just wanna, I wanna represent your definitions well. And it's just the more I'm reading, the more it just gets become kind of funny. Okay. I hear you Jared. I hear you. Now I don't want to shut out John Henry. He's has a point.
Starting point is 00:28:31 So he got Adam locked in the dungeon now all by himself and the rest of us on the board. Let's move now to round three where the word for round three is OOBLEC. OOBLEC, that's O-O-B-L-E-C-K. Obleck. It's fun to say at least. It is fun to say.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Is it fun to define? We'll find out. Right after this. Well, friends, I'm here with David Shue, CEO of Retool. David, I want to talk about awareness beyond Silicon Valley. Retool has a great presence and a great awareness inside Silicon Valley. But what about beyond? What's really cool is I think we've done a really good job of building awareness inside Silicon Valley. And so when you look at customers that use Retool, pretty much every big company
Starting point is 00:29:21 in Silicon Valley of a thousand people today now uses Retool and builds internal apps via Retool. So that's really awesome. And I'm really proud of the progress you've made there. But I think the larger opportunity for us actually, it's outside of Silicon Valley, when you think about, for example, the Kroger's of the world, the Coca-Cola's of the world, many of them are customers already today. But I think we haven't done as good of a job building awareness, if you will, around the developers and all these companies. And that, to me, is where the opportunity lies, because so much of these companies run on software. Software is so important. If you think about Coca-Cola, for example, Coca-Cola has not really gotten any cheaper to manufacture in the last 10 or 20 years. Instead, the reason why Coca-Cola is doing well as a company is because they are getting more productive by
Starting point is 00:30:02 better software. And so every company needs to become a software company. And Retual lets you do that. So Coke is a big company, but the principle rings true. Become more efficient by using better software. There you go. Well, if you're beyond Silicon Valley, raise your hand. We want to hear from you. I want to tell David we reach people beyond Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:30:23 They were raising the awareness of what Retool is, what Retool does, and some big announcements coming soon here on ChangeLog, which is cool. Well, if you haven't yet, go to Retool.com, get a demo, try it out for free, all that good stuff. Again, Retool.com. How do we know that you're giving us
Starting point is 00:30:44 the right pronunciation of these words? I just take my word for it. Okay, understood. But are you claiming to? You've lied about math. Yeah. I make no claims. Neither express or implied.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Most of these I looked up the pronunciation. I actually forgot to on this one, but don't Google it because you'll know the definition. Let me make sure I'm saying it right. Hold on, maybe will work. Hey Siri define ubleck. No, no, no Anyone anyone anyone things go off? No, damn it's why you're trying to get other people the answer Yeah, you think I have Siri enabled my phone. So you don't like her. I don't call her Siri anymore She never called me back. So My brother's ex-girlfriend's called Siri I'm sorry call her Siri anymore. She never called me back, so. My brother's ex-girlfriend's called Siri. I'm sorry for her loss.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Was that her name, or he just called her that? No, that was her legit name. That hurts. So are you giving us the proper pronunciation, or are you? I was waiting for that personally. Oh, my bad. I actually got distracted and started doing something else.
Starting point is 00:31:44 I was just waiting for that. I was just, you know, just curious. Okay, I just confirmed it's a OOBLACK, specifically as I said it. So since you said you check your email during this and you also said that not every email gets a response, is now a good time to email you? This would be a great time. Okay, perfect. This reminds me, while we wait for BMC, you guys may or may not know that I have an entire soundboard
Starting point is 00:32:09 BMC noises really I just like anything that makes me happy and I do that and then I do the next thing you're welcome Words to live by Do this thing you like glitchy things and you know things. Okay that's my definition. Here's my favorite one. Heckens yeah I said to myself. Sometimes I throw those in at the end of a show when I'm thanking you for making our beats. Yes, I've heard. Oh, you've heard. Nice. This one, I'll usually throw in this one.
Starting point is 00:32:50 I'm here for your sound needs. I'm here for your sound needs. I'm here for your sound needs. Hold on, I'm getting distracted by all the smart, funny things I say. One second. Do you still need jobs? If you're listening, I need jobs. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:03 That was just me talking. Please give me work. Please give me work. You sound like Batman. He's already does. You're both Batman and a Spider-Man evil octopus man at the same time. Aw, thank you. You're welcome.
Starting point is 00:33:24 I love a backhanded compliment. Oh cool. man at the same time. Aw, thank you. You're welcome. I love a backhanded compliment. Oh, cool. Oh, man. I actually really do like your goggles. Oh, thank you. If I could get prescription goggles, that would be awesome. That would be awesome. I can't see past like two inches on my face, so. Right. I would need them to be very heavy. Yeah, I like these.
Starting point is 00:33:48 They have saved my face from what? Doorways. Door frames, one of these is shattered in the room. I was going to say, you can't hit doorways, we can't door frames or doors. This was going to be my face instead It shattered this and I find you very lucky Okay, the end. Do you routinely hit into door frames? I did that one time like a Regular car. Okay, that's why I bought these. It's like one day
Starting point is 00:34:21 All right We have all definitions for oobleck and this round will be a little different than the rest because two of our contestants actually got the correct definition for Obleck. Three points awarded to Angelica and John Henry. You guys both know what Obleck is. Yes, John. The rest of us will have to find out.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So, we'll actually only have four definitions since those two were the correct definition. They merged down onto the real one. And we start with ublek, a non-Newtonian fluid that acts as both a liquid and solid under stress. Number two, ublek. Similar to an umlaut, the ublek is used to indicate the pronunciation of a word.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Number three, a piece of communication network that filters some data while setting aside others for future dispatch. And number four, a gritty adhesive formed by mixing sand water and epoxy. So four definitions of OOBLEC, one of those is correct. Angelica and John Henry sit this round out since they already know what it is.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And BMC gets to pick first. First one. First one, the non-Newtonian fluid. Okay. Yeah. BMC. You said it funny. Is there, we go to Adam. It is funny. What's the last one again?
Starting point is 00:35:40 The gritty substance? A gritty adhesive formed by mixing sand, water, and epoxy. Oh yeah, that's it. That's it. Adam takes that one. We go now to Matthew. So I heard the first one was the non-Newtonian something or other.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Correct. The last one was gritty adhesive. What were the second two, the middle two? The middle two was similar to an umlaut. Umlaut is used to indicate the pronunciation of a word. And the other middle one was a piece of a communication network that filters some data while setting aside other for future dispatch.
Starting point is 00:36:12 That one's spelled incorrectly. There are some mistakes in that one, so I'm going to pass on that one. Okay. Uh, I'm thinking one. One sounds the best here? And I don't know if this group would say something like non-Newtonian. So I think I'm gonna lock in for one actually. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So not only does he select number one, he also disses everybody. This group wouldn't say non-Newtonian. They are smart enough. There's a bunch of mids out there. There's a mids. Yeah. But we knew what it was, so. That's a good point. So Angelica and John Henry already knew that
Starting point is 00:36:54 that Oobleck was a non-Newtonian fluid that acts as both a liquid and a solid under stress. So BMC and Matthew each get two points for guessing it correctly. Did you guys not go to elementary school or like you guys don't know what this is? I just skipped straight to. I don't know how you know what it is. So can you please explain to you what contents we're all missing? The cornstarch and water mixture that you can punch and that feels solid and then you hold it and it drips through your fingers.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I went outside as a kid. I don't know what you're talking about. Ah! Ah! Ah! So this is also a commercial product, I guess, when Angelica, you were talking about the commercial product, right?
Starting point is 00:37:40 Yeah. Yeah. Ooey gooey. She called it an ooey gooey kids toy, like slime and more gooey and with specks in it. Which is true. I've never heard this in my life. I actually hadn't heard it in a moogleck either.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And so I'm very impressed by you two. Oh. When we say me and John were just slimy. That's all right. And then Adam selected the gritty adhesive form by mixing sand water and epoxy and that's Matthew. So he gets another point. So three points for you, three points for Angelica,
Starting point is 00:38:06 two for BMC, three for John Henry. Adam and I shut out this round. So after three rounds, tied for first is Matthew and BMC with six, tied for second is Angelica, John Henry, myself with four, and we leave Adam where he was previously. Let's move now to round four. I have faith in you.
Starting point is 00:38:30 I do not. I do not. There's a strategy. That's right. He has a strategy. This round is a little different. We call this give it a goog. Give it a goog.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Where I went out to Google in an incognito browser window so no personalization and I started giving it a goog. Then I stopped and checked for the first autocomplete. Your job is to come up with what the first autocomplete was or ostensibly what you can trick other people into thinking that it was. The query that I queried was, when does the? I typed when does the, and then I stopped. What do you think Google suggested as the number one autocomplete? Please submit to me your autocompletes now.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Did you do this search or this autocomplete yourself on your machine incognito window a VPN and it can you put the text that you put yes channel for sure Adam was the first one in this time so he's oh That's cuz I know the answer. He's changing the things around How often do you how often do you write that into Google to get the answer to that? Well, this one's obvious. Well, the cool thing about it is, it's kind of a proxy for the human condition, is it not?
Starting point is 00:39:52 Like, what were people asking it? What do people wonder? When does the... When does the fox say? I was gonna think of that too. That's what does the fox say. Very close though. Oh, dang. That's what I said. And did you do this today? This search? Such a search? I don't answer any further questions.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Okay, that's fair. That's very relevant though. It is very relevant. What does the Fox say? No, when you did this. Yeah, like it was like six years ago. He's super different. He prepared for this show a long time ago He's been doing this. Yeah, he planned this. Where did he come from? Where'd he go? BMC's with me
Starting point is 00:40:38 BMC is here for our sound needs. If you're listening, I need jobs. Thank you I'm here for your sound needs. It's kind of more fun when VMC's here than it even is when he's not. I'm having fun that with he's here. Oh god. Alright, we're just down to one person.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Not in. Buy my music! Buy my music! Buy my music! That's a good sound bite. Next time we release a Album, we'll just play that one. At the end. I'll repeat. Or at the beginning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, do it. You chose phrases that have like, I don't know, they don't have much- Yeah That's a good one, right?
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. Okay. I'm on board with that. Okay. Six potential Google auto complaints for when does the number one, when does the current administration end? Number two, when does the sun rise? Number three, when does the time change? Number three, when does the time change?
Starting point is 00:41:46 Number four, when does the stock market open? Number five, when does the sun set near me? And number six, when does the world end? Existential. All right, six potential when does those. John Henry. So going through these, what was the first one? Current?
Starting point is 00:42:07 The current administration. Oh, that, yeah. I'm certainly wondering that. But I don't know. I don't know if Google would go there. Maybe, maybe not. I'm not sure. Oh, it would.
Starting point is 00:42:22 It would? Oh yeah. So is this global Google though? Or is this US based? This is Jared's incognito. Jared's IP address in Omaha. Yeah, I didn't VPN very far. Sunrise is plausible.
Starting point is 00:42:36 They're all plausible actually. Stock market, sunset near me. I like the near me. Does that mean the sun sets like as close to you as possible or? I don't know. Google just always like adds that in those searches. And so that's what made me think I'm going with number five.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Number five. When is the sunset near me? OK, Adam, what do you think? I haven't been paying attention. Sorry. Well, the scoreboard accurately reflects that. Yes. What are we doing here? Well the scoreboard accurately reflects that. Yes. What are we doing here? Are you still watching SpongeBob? Yeah I am actually.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Patrick's so awesome. Let's see here. There are two that are near me. Which ones are those? Read those to me please. Well one was when does the sun set near me. That's number five. And then the other one was when does the sun rise but does not say's number five. And then the other one was when does the sun rise,
Starting point is 00:43:25 but does not say near me. Number five is the only one that says near me. That's Mandela fact, I think, right? I remember both of them saying near me. No, we would all have to remember it, otherwise it's just you being wrong. Let's see here. What was the first one again?
Starting point is 00:43:44 The first one was when is the current administration end? What number two? You think number two is the right answer? When does the sun rise? Near me? No. That could be your additional add on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Would it change your answer if it said near me on it? I feel like a near me is probably accurate, but I'm not gonna go that route. I'm gonna go with number two, locking it in tight. Tight, still tight. Locking in, when does the sun rise? Okay, Angelica. I don't think it's the administration one,
Starting point is 00:44:19 and I don't think it's the world end one. Okay, so down to four then. So I've got the two some ones and the time zone stock market. I don't think the stock market is broadly applicable to the world. So I don't think that many people Google that. Famous last words, if it is that.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Going on what I would care about, I care about when the sun rises and sets. So I'm also on the line of thinking of, but is the near me? Couldn't it be? I think last time I locked in with Adam, it was good. So I'm a lock in. You're going with Adam.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Okay, when does the sun rise? You're sympathically incorrect. I put my faith in you, Adam. So I'm like. Oh, you know. All right, Matt. Can you give me the quick rundown of all of them again? Number one is the current administration.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Number two is the sun rising. Number three is the time changing. Number four is the market opening. Number five is the sun setting near me. And number six is the world ending. OK, I haven't used Google in a very long time. So I don't know what Google even suggests anymore. I've also never seen a suggestion ever say near me.
Starting point is 00:45:29 So I think that one's out for me. Yeah, that's not true. Nor am I, honestly. I also don't autocorrect much. Yeah, I've never seen a near me thing pop up. It already knows where you're at. It's context-based. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:41 It already knows where you are. Near me's are specific nouns. Like like where is the nearest gas station? Near me. Yeah I think if you had started with that then the near me would have auto-created. Well sunrise and sunset are geographically dependent right? The sunset sets a different time, different places. Yeah but like I feel like Google, I feel like Google's evolved that it knows my geo. Alright what are think, Matthew? All right. So if you're doing this from Omaha,
Starting point is 00:46:10 I'm torn between the Sunrise and the stock market, honestly. But I think we've overindexed on the Sunrise. I think I'm going to go the other way and do the stock market opening. He's playing the spread. OK. When the world ends, huh? OK.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Good job. You're going to lose. That's a good choice, when the world ends. That good job you're gonna lose that's a good that's a good choice when the world ends all right is that what you picked no he's picked the stock market oh but he said where the wind ends it means come on that's the right answer yeah come on that's the last lee bmc what do you think world end oh he's i wonder who wrote that one end of days I wonder who wrote that one. End of days fan finger. What are those things called?
Starting point is 00:46:47 Giant hand? I got this in 2020 and it's gonna be useful sometimes. Eventually it will apply. Every five years, useful. All right, so BMC picks the world ending. Adam was very excited that you were interested in the world ending because Adam wrote the world endings.
Starting point is 00:47:05 At one point for Adam, when the world ends. See, I had faith in you, Adam. I would keep doing that. It's amazing. John Henry was interested in the sun setting near him. And nobody else was interested in that one. It happened to be his own.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So he gets zero points. Couldn't quite bring people along for the ride. Just trying to lobby that. Yeah, it almost worked, but then they were all using logic and stuff. Let's see, what else? I see that, I see the near me all the time. How do you?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah, no, you guys don't? I don't use them. Yeah, I guess I don't really think about the auto complete much. Well, I mean, like in maps maybe, you know, when I'm like looking for like a chick-fil-a near me like search nearby Yeah, that's where I see the near me. Yes. That's like a button though. You can press near me right and the GPS thing Yeah, it's not a dentist that was named something like near me smart last name
Starting point is 00:48:02 Near me it was his last name. Dr. Near me. Dr. Near me paging Dr? Near me. What was his last name? Doctor Near Me. Doctor Near Me. Paging Doctor Near Me. If I was a doctor, I'd name myself On The Plane. Is there a doctor on the plane? I just get hit every time. The Sun Rising was also popular with Adam and Angelica. Adam picked it because he thought it was right. Angelica picked it because she thought
Starting point is 00:48:19 she could fool more people, I guess, because that's hers. She gets one point. You reduce the addition to others. See, I had faith in you giving me points, Adam. I was doing it on purpose. And it worked. I was, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:33 I felt the brain waves coming through like a, like a Obleck or what the heck is that thing called? Like an Obleck. Obleck. Like an Obleck. A jaggy Obleck. Nobody picked the time change. That was Matthew's. Like an Ooblack. A jaggy Ooblack. Nobody picked the time change. That was Matthew's.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Nobody picked the current administration ending. That was BMC's. Also, there's a time limit on it, right? So people don't ask that question. It's four years, minus whatever, 100 days. No, it's gonna be like 12 years if he has anything to do with it. Well, yeah, we'll see how many administrations there are.
Starting point is 00:49:04 And then Matthew picked the stock market, which was the actual answer, Angelica. So you need to eat some crow here. When does the stock market open is the number one autocomplete for when does the. Oh no, can I check this now? Here's the number two, three, and four, and five autocompletes.
Starting point is 00:49:23 When does the time change? So Matthew, you actually had the second five autocompletes. When does the time change? So Matthew, you actually had the second best autocomplete. I've Googled that before, or I've searched that before. You get zero points, but you do get two for getting it right, so good job there. When does the WNBA season start? So shout out to Caitlin Clark for, you know, probably effecting those results.
Starting point is 00:49:44 WNBA very popular all of a sudden. And then when do the NBA playoffs start? Of course, they're going on right now. And then the last one, number five, was when does the sun set? No near me though, John Henry. When does the sun set? So you're close.
Starting point is 00:49:58 But I only care about near me because it's- Because you're a narcissist. It's rolling, you know? It's sunning somewhere all the time. narcissist. It's rolling, you know. It's something somewhere all the time. Right. That's fair I think. I tried this out right now after submitting. I think it's subjective to where you are.
Starting point is 00:50:14 Subjective to where you are. Because my top one is when does the Minecraft movie come out? Are you logged in? That is my top.. I'm incognito mode. I put when does the.. It says Minecraft movie. Okay. Everybody right now go incognito mode. I put when does the, there's this Minecraft movie.
Starting point is 00:50:26 Okay, everybody right now go incognito and do a search. Okay, Minecraft movie. And John Henry and I are very closely approximate to each other. So we'll see if he gets what I got. When does the Minecraft movie come out and then when does the time change
Starting point is 00:50:38 and then when does the time change 2025? My three options. I pretty much have that same thing. Really? Yeah. My top search is when there's a world end. Geez. Mine is when does the sun rise? And then number two is yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And then number two is when does the MLB season start near me? I don't know how that got near me. That's spectacular because it starts the same time everywhere. But maybe they just maybe Google fingerprinted me somehow. Even though I'm incognito and it's like this guy wants to know when the stock market opens. Even though I've never seared that in my life. You did mention slack shares and stuff. So you know, it knows it knows you have stocks in your mind. You know what the stock market is.
Starting point is 00:51:27 This is true. I know what it is. I feel like mine was the number one on Jordan's browser. So I should at least get like a half point. Come on. It's integers only. I'm sorry. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:51:37 John Henry is doing another one now. Different from my browser. No, it's not John. It's it's correct. But then when I go to google.com and the auto complete, that's different. Well, that's what I did. Google.com.
Starting point is 00:51:47 I think the browser is definitely cracked. I think the browser address bar is probably using your stuff there. Anyways. I'm just gonna go see Minecraft. All right. So after four rounds now, we have Matthew in a commanding lead with eight,
Starting point is 00:52:05 followed by BMC with six, Angelic with five. John Henry and I are tied with four and Adams on the board now with one. Half a point. How many points, BMC? This many points for Adam. You have the finger. That's right. BMC one finger.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's the right finger at least. That's right. The BMC is one finger. It's the right finger at least. That's true. All right. We move now to round five. This is a brand new format. We've never done this one before. I call it weird flicks, but okay. Where I have gone out and found a weird old movie. And your job, I will give you the title and the date, the year that movie came out, and your job is to write
Starting point is 00:52:52 the tagline or the synopsis, the one sentence synopsis of the movie, having no nothing but the title and the year it came out. Make sense? Yes. Okay. The movie, that's tagline you're going to write the title and the year it came out. Makes sense? Mm hmm. Yes. The movie that's tagline you're going to write was a 1924 flick called He Who Gets Slapped. He Who Gets Slapped.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Now you are in charge of the actual synopsis. Please submit those to me whenever they're ready. Is it a talkie? Like those chips that are real spicy. No like a movie that had spoken What's it? Today we call those movies I actually haven't seen it. I do know its title and the synopsis though It could have been talking from 19 black and white. I tried to find one of the most obscure movies I could
Starting point is 00:53:52 Just hoping nobody's seen it. I think I did good. Are you gonna be reading these in a cinematic voice, Jared? I Feel like you should just commit. In a world. I don't have a Batman voice. What is it? Like a horror? Dark and foreboding. I do try to be foreboding though. Weird flicks, but okay.
Starting point is 00:54:16 We have six potential synopses for the 1924 movie, He Who Gets Slapped. I will read you these now. Number one, young George's mischievous childhood was punctuated by the sharp sting of a cane. Now an adult, he wakes to phantom slams and inexplicable cane-shaped bruises. Is it madness, his imagination,
Starting point is 00:54:40 or is his past literally leaving its mark? A chilling psychological thriller based on a true story of buried trauma and the repercussions of being a naughty boy. Okay, number two. A high school student hopelessly searches for love while continuously facing rejection, often physical. Number three, a scared, straight, short film describing the purported hazards of befriending
Starting point is 00:55:13 communists. Number four, a bitter clown endeavors to rescue the young woman he loves from the lecherous baron who once betrayed him. Number five, in a world where hand gestures have gone too far, a group of friends vow to change things and restore the old ways of simple handshakes and high fives. And number six, when a man decides a raucous night
Starting point is 00:55:37 out on the big city is more important than his life back home. Which of these six, very well written I might say synopsis is actually the one for the 1924 flick He Who Gets Slapped. We start with Adam.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Gosh. I was too busy thinking about who's who and what's what. Yeah. I forgot to listen. You had one job. What was it to listen? No, actually I just need two and four in the last one I think.
Starting point is 00:56:11 So just two, four and six, so half of them. Okay. Yeah, please. Number two, a high school student hopelessly searches for love while continuously facing rejection, often physical. Four was a bitter clown endeavors to rescue the young woman he loves from the lecherous baron who once betrayed him.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And number six is when a man decides a raucous night out on the big city is more important than his life back home. Who do I want to get points to? So you think you know who wrote each one? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Pegged. Can I get some points for that?
Starting point is 00:56:43 It could be. Yeah. Guess who? You can certainly guess who. It was a some points for that? It could be, yeah. Guess who? You can certainly guess who. It was a twist. Yeah, that'd be a good game. I'm gonna give BMC some points. Read number three again, please.
Starting point is 00:56:52 A scared straight short film describing the purported hazards of befriending communists. Yeah, that's totally BMC. Okay. What was the clown one? That was number four? Yeah. Okay. The clown was four one? That was number four? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:57:06 The clown was four. Three was communists. Two is physical rejection. The first one was young George. He was the mischievous childhood. He got caned as a kid. What are you gonna do, Adam? I just already said.
Starting point is 00:57:22 Oh, I couldn't hear you. I gave the points to number three, BMC. Oh, number three, BMC, okay. All the way. Adam votes number three. Okay, we go now to Angelica. Obviously, we all know which one I think it was. We do.
Starting point is 00:57:37 So. When do you actually think it is? What I actually think it is is the last one, I think. The one about the raucous night out and leaving one's family behind. It feels very 1920s man to me. Angelica picks number six, locks it in, Matthew. I'm gonna double on that.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Okay, she also picks number six. The raucous night out is. It gives very 1920 vibes, you know? Who uses Rockus anymore? Nobody, nobody uses that word anymore. Yeah, who says Rockus? Right. The flappers and like jazz music.
Starting point is 00:58:13 The flapper, the big city, you know? Yeah, I can see it. Rockus Night Out, okay. John Henry, are you gonna go Rockus? Oh, I don't know. I mean, yeah, the, I like the raucous part. It's a pile on. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Oh, is that a pile on? Where's Matt when you need him to sing a song? I'm gonna go with number four, the clown. He's not piling on, he's playing the spread and he's going with The Clown. BMC, what are you going with? Rokas. He's going Rokas.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Wow. Now that's a pile on right there. Adding to George's poor trauma, he never gets picked. Oh, young George, mission of childhood, of course. We all do know that Angelica wrote that book about a movie. What gave it away? She duped all of you.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Practically had the entire script written. It was the screenplay. Yeah, it was the screenplay. It was more of a review than even a synopsis. Good job, Angelica. Very well written. I enjoyed it from, you know, it was a raucous night out. That was hers. nobody picked it. Scared straight short film.
Starting point is 00:59:30 All right, so one point for BMC. The pile on, Angelica, Matthew, and BMC were all out on for a raucous night out. John Henry did not pile on. Any thoughts as to why maybe he didn't pick it? Well, because he wrote it. Oh! Big time, big time. Three points there.
Starting point is 00:59:50 And he's no clown. He's got the right answer as well. He got two because the actual synopsis of he who gets slapped is a bitter clown endeavors to rescue the old woman he loves from the lecherous Baron who once betrayed him. Wow. Wow. How'd you know that John Henry?
Starting point is 01:00:10 Well, my grandfather wrote the screen pro-lay. I'm not just kidding. No, it just seemed like nobody would add a clown into theirs unless they were like, it's just like, it's not quite funny, but it's like kind of like too weird to like, you wouldn't add that to make it like, oh no, that's not what a movie's about.
Starting point is 01:00:34 So I was like, okay, that's just weird enough. Good thinking, yeah. Like there's nobody, there's no clown inclinations in the title at all. And it's not quite weird enough to be funny. But it is weird enough to be the actual synopsis of a 1924 movie. And a big score.
Starting point is 01:00:53 So you got three for fooling and two for getting it correct. So that's a five point round. And BMC is the only other person that scored that round with one. So big score bringing you into first place with nine points passing Matthew with eight, BMC with seven, Angelica with five, me with four, Adam with one.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Still anybody's game there. Oh, I got the bonus point for getting the side quest. You drilled the side quest. How many points did you get for knowing that BMC wrote that one? At least a half a point, you know? All right, we'll give you a half. Sweet.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Add him with 1.5. 1.3. Let's go down to 1.3. OK, we'll give you a third. So humble. 1.3, repeating decimal. Well, friends, building multi-agent software is hard. Agent to agent and agent to tool communication
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Starting point is 01:02:06 can communicate, discover each other, and work across frameworks. For developers, this means standardized agent discovery tools, seamless protocols for inter-agent communication, and modular components to compose and scale multi-agent workflows. You can now build with other engineers who care about high-quality multi-agent workflows. You can now build with other engineers who care about high quality multi-agent software. Visit agency.org and add your support. That's A-G-N-T-C-Y.org. We move now to round six, where the word for round six is penumbra.
Starting point is 01:02:43 So back to the original definition. That's correct. This is a regular round penumbra spelled P-E-N-U-M-B-R-A. And you can submit to me your definitions whenever you have them. I have to think of how to word mine. Clearly it's not correct then, is it? That's up to Jared to decide. Miss. I think it's actually up to the Oxford dictionary to decide.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Mr. Oxford can't even decide where to place a comma, so we don't talk to them. Well, you're not talking about American English as opposed to the actual English, so. Aren't you in America? Yes. Does that mean I have to adhere to your grammatical errors? No. Excuse me, I don't make grammatical errors. Excuse me. No, you just say like 52 times within an hour. Listen, okay, I tried.
Starting point is 01:03:42 All right, we have six definitions for penumbra, one of which is the correct definition and three points before the round begins goes to Matthew. He has the correct definition. He knows what a penumbra is. So you're gonna set this one out. Congrats, you've already scored three. And we go now to five definitions.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Number one, an area in which something exists to a lesser or uncertain degree. Number two, the largest in a list of numbers. Number three, the second to final stage of a nerve receptor's life cycle. Number four, what's the matter with you, huh? Penumbra. Number five, a geographical or astrological term
Starting point is 01:04:34 for a peninsula or a concave piece of land that is in shade on a planet. Angelica goes first. Which one do you think is a penumbra? I think I'm between the second one. Which was the largest in the list of numbers. Yes, like the penultimate penumbra that like resonated with my brain.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I'm just gonna go with that one. Now that I'm talking it through in my brain, it's resonating. She's locking that one in. Okay, now we go to, we'll skip Matthew Matthew because he's correct. We go to BMC. Could you say the first three again? Number one was an area in which something exists to a lesser or uncertain degree. Number two was the largest in a list of numbers.
Starting point is 01:05:19 And number three was the second to final stage of a nerve receptors lifecycle My knowledge of prefixes is getting in my way. I Hate it when that happens me too. Thank you. No one ever says that First one The first one. Okay, BMC picks an area in which something exists to a lesser or an uncertain degree. That means nothing. Go now to John Henry. I'm gonna go with the largest number. It seems the most logical.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Okay, piling on with Angelica. Going now to Adam. Angelica chose her own. Let's see here. She says she didn't. I refuse that claim. No one puts baby in the corner. Or in the shadows.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Oh, I'm going to shadow. Where are you putting babies? It is a shot in the penumbra. In the penumbra. What's the matter with you? Huh? A number. Which one? Which number is the shadow?
Starting point is 01:06:22 I don't know, like five or something. Six. It was the last one. The peninsula with the shadow? I don't know, like five or something, six. Where's the last one? The peninsula with the shadow occurring deep within the jungle. Gotcha. All right, so Adam goes to that one. All right, so we'll start right there.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Adam thought Angelica picked her own, but then Adam picked Angelica's. That one. Woo! See, I was just trying to help you out, Angelica. I just cut you down, put you right back up. Something had to do with it. Appreciate it. Angelica. I just cut you down, put you right back up. Some way I'd do it. Appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Angelica thought it was the largest in a list of numbers. So did Sean Henry. That's because he wrote it, so he gets one point. Oh. For fooling one person. I knew someone was going with their own. This tactic is not getting old. You used that tactic.
Starting point is 01:07:02 One time, first round. Just to open it up. Let you know it could be possible. It's just showing you the possibilities. That's right, I'm here to teach you how to play the game. Thanks, man. I'm simply level one, I'm level one. And BMC thought it was an area in which something exists to a lesser or uncertain degree.
Starting point is 01:07:18 That is a penumbra. So two points for BMC. That's one of the definitions. The other one is a partial shadow cause when an object does not completely block a light source. That's what Matthew wrote down. Oh dang. Or the diffuse outer part of a sunspot.
Starting point is 01:07:35 Maybe, you're really close, Angelica. That's why you convinced. I knew it was some shadowy thing. I did, I like half knew it and I couldn't remember what the actual. OK. So close she tricked somebody a number like umbrella like like umbrella.
Starting point is 01:07:51 No. This one was interesting. I knew this one immediately when you wrote it for two reasons. One I knew my prefix and suffix here. Right. Thank you Pokemon. I'm Brian.
Starting point is 01:08:02 S beyond. And then also like when I was doing lighting for my kitchen you there was when I was placing lights for the ceiling and finding out where to do it there's always that secondary shadow that's cast under the cabinets and I wanted to minimize that as much as possible and I was like how do I do that and that's where I found that term. Gotcha. And I was like oh yes that's what that secondary shadow is called. It is a science kitchen lighting is a science. So yeah that's what it is. Yeah no pen numbers in my house. That's right that secondary shadows called. It is a science kitchen lighting is a science. So yeah, that's what it is Yeah, no penumbra's in my house. That's right. What's the matter with you, huh?
Starting point is 01:08:32 I'm not sure what Adam wrote there What's the matter with you, huh penumbra? Can you explain the logic on that one? Just make y'all laugh a little bit, you know? Oh, yeah gotta laugh Alright, so three points for Matthew, two for BMC, one for Angelica, one for John Henry. Bringing Matthew into first place with 11, John Henry with 10, BMC with nine, Angelica with six, me with four, and Adam with 1.3, repeating decimal.
Starting point is 01:09:01 All right, we're getting late in the game now. Round seven of a potential 10 rounds. This is a different round. It's called, How Do You Do, Fellow Humans? Because I have went out to chat GPT and given it a prompt and it has responded. I wrote down its response. Your job is to act as if you are fellow humans
Starting point is 01:09:22 and fellow chat GPTers and write your own response to this prompt. The prompt is create a new word in the world of science fiction and give it a one sentence definition. It should be both interesting and memorable. So I've written down chat GPT's response. You'll write down your response as if you are chat GPT to this prompt. Put it in the chat. I'll read it again for our listener. Create a new word in the world of science fiction and give it a one sentence definition.
Starting point is 01:09:58 It should be both interesting and memorable. Are you all thinking or done already? Thinking. They're thinking. I have zero submissions. Oh. Ah. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe heehehe hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee hee he Huh? Numbra? Is that supposed to be red in the rocky voice? Hahahaha If I can't get me I get Jared
Starting point is 01:10:32 Pfft Pfft Hahahaha Oh gosh Hahahaha Oh no It's gonna be a tough one to read all these Gotta play it straight crying crying
Starting point is 01:11:05 This one's hard. I'm not gonna lie to you. This is really hard. Hmm good little challenge for your For your Tuesday afternoon. I'm gonna keep going there Jared. I'm just gonna maybe augment it a little bit Okay, you're gonna change it now. Well. I'm gonna go the same direction. I just didn't do a good job Good job. Angelica, you just submitted a second one or you just clarified for me? I just thought it would be fun. She's like, I just came back for more. I just added a supplementary meme.
Starting point is 01:11:49 I do like that meme. The illustrative person. Am I supposed to include that in your actual? It's up to you. I'll give you creative discretion. Okay. This is your discretion, Jared. You just go whichever direction you want to go, okay? I just need to enunciate. Remember, enunciate. I was so close to writing a description of a new word that was fit with my favorite stick from a water bottle. Looks like Krang. It kind of does look like from Ninja Turtles. Yeah. Yeah. But stuck in the Game Boy.
Starting point is 01:12:17 Oh yeah, it does. Yeah. Why? Where? Why? Just for like, funsies. It makes me laugh. It is funny, but how, where'd you get it? Where? Why? Just for like funsies. It makes me laugh.
Starting point is 01:12:28 It is funny, but how, where'd you get it? Yeah. I also have a worm from Worm Emporium. What do they sell there? Worms. She just answered that one straight. But this one is actually made by the Punchy Cat. So it's a worm made by the punchy cat. So it's a worm made by the punchy cat. Can you, have you seen that one thing that's a worm or tiger tail?
Starting point is 01:12:51 It's a thing, you know? Is it a worm or is it a tiger tail? I have seen that. I'm not very good at guessing though. Mm-mm. I feel like if I could touch it, I could tell. Yeah. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:13:03 All right, we have six potential real responses from ChatGBT, only one of them is the real response. To the prompt, create a new word in the world of science fiction and give it a one sentence definition. It should be both interesting and memorable. Response number one, neuroforge, a noun, a clandestine device implanted in the cerebral cortex that allows
Starting point is 01:13:27 its user to overwrite memories with synthetic experiences blurring the line between reality and engineered perception. 2. I would be happy to, here's a new word for you. Osobuna. A spherical shield around itself that is completely impenetrable and indestructible to everything. Number three, great idea. How about Zinus? A rare plant with mystical healing properties.
Starting point is 01:13:57 That could provide a sci-fi spin on a familiar story element. Number four, Darlorgon. The powerful hybrid offspring of a rogue Dalryk and a Gorgon. Sorry. Their union was born. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Their union was born out of both love and due to the potent essence of the Gorgon spit. Sorry. As reproductive properties. This has resulted in a uniquely resilient new species within the Matrix. Number five, certainly here's your new science fiction word that's both interesting and memorable. Applerate Applerate The treatment of a porous substance to fill all its vessels and create a single entity. Let me know if you'd like more words. I can even use it in a sentence for you. And number six.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Jaggies. Comfortable pants. Comfortable pants for remote working. A play on jeggings. Okay. There's six, frankly spectacular responses. My chat GPT wannabes. And we'll see who's who. Angelica, you get to pick first.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Which one do you like the most? Can I hit a bit down? One through six. You want me to go number four again? Darla or gone? Can I hit a bit down? One through six. No. Go to number four again. Darlorgon. Three and four please. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Three and four. Three says great idea. How about zinus? Or zinus. Z-I-N-N-U-S. A rare plant with mystical healing properties. That could provide a sci-fi spin on a familiar story element. And number four was Darlorgon,
Starting point is 01:15:45 the powerful hybrid offspring of a rogue Dalryk and a Gorgon. Their union was born out of both love and due to the potent, and due to the potent essence of the Gorgon's spit and its reproductive properties. This has resulted in a uniquely resilient new species within the matrix.
Starting point is 01:16:08 That one. That one. Okay, Angelica goes for that one. Matthew. Can you repeat one in two? Yes, one was NeuroForge, a clandestine device implanted in the cerebral cortex that allows its user to overwrite memories
Starting point is 01:16:26 with synthetic experiences blurring the line between reality and engineered perception. And number two says I would be happy to. Here's a new word for you. Osobuna, a spherical shield around itself that is completely impenetrable and indestructible to everything. Number three.
Starting point is 01:16:47 All right, here we go for number three, which is the zeniths. We go now to BMC. Were there five or six? There were six. Can you hear the last two? Yeah, the last two. Number five says,
Starting point is 01:17:00 certainly here's your new science fiction word that's both interesting and memorable. Aplurate, or A-plurate, A-P-L-U-R-A-T-E. The treatment of a porous substance to fill all its vessels and create a single entity. Let me know if you'd like more words. I can even use it in a sentence for you. And number six is jaggies, comfortable pants
Starting point is 01:17:19 for remote working, a play on jeggings. It may be familiar, because you wrote pants down previously. I wrote pants down? Didn't you? Oh yes, I wrote pants down. Yeah you did. Or the first two.
Starting point is 01:17:36 I will now summarize because I cannot do this again. Neuroforge was the first one. And the second one was Osobuna. And the third one and the second one was oh so Boona and the third one the third one Sinus do you want the fourth one too? Cuz you're just missing that one The one that had the yeah, I'll do the fourth one. I probably know we're going that is Wait, what's the fit? You asked for the fit I don't know appler eight appler eight, which is the one that had the like I'd be so happy to put that in a sentence for you.
Starting point is 01:18:08 Oh. Well, there's a few of those. So number five said, certainly here's your new science fiction word that's both interesting and memorable. Oh yeah. And it ends with I could even use it in a sentence for you. I'm gonna go with that one. It seems a little heavy handed on the chat GPT speak, but also I wanna.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Okay, we'll give it to you. John Henry. I think I'm gonna go, doesn't have the chat GPT speak, but number one is pretty solid. NeuroForge? Are you locking that in or you? I'm gonna switch it.
Starting point is 01:18:46 I'm going to go with number three. Number three. So we now have two people on that one. That's the Zenith. Adam, last to select. What are you liking? What are you thinking? What are you seeing?
Starting point is 01:18:58 What are you doing? I'm thinking deeply. Which one was the one that really got Angelica? Like made her laugh a lot. She really liked when I said their union was born out of both love and due to the potent essence of the Gorgon spit. That's what got her.
Starting point is 01:19:16 See? Got her again. She's going. God, I hope that's the one. Lock that in. Lock that in. Lock that in. This is Jared's chat GPT, right? This is mine, yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Okay. All right. It's in a temporary chat, so it doesn't have any context or memory. All right. Six potential responses to the prompt about a science fiction word and a definition. Where do we begin? Where do we begin? Where do we begin? Well, let's begin right where we left off, which is the Gorgon Spit,
Starting point is 01:19:50 which is probably a pretty good show title, honestly, Gorgon Spit. I'm not sure about that. The powerful hybrid offspring of a rogue Dalek. Angelica, how did you come up with this? I just thought of random sci-fi stuff. It's actually Dalek And Gorgon and then the Matrix. I basically thought about what chat cbt would define as sci-fi And just smidged it together with a little bit of spice. So I was pronouncing it wrong when I say Dalrik
Starting point is 01:20:22 Yeah, I was trying to go for Dalek like Like from uh, Dr. Who I was pronouncing it wrong when I say Dalrych. Yeah, I was trying to go for Dalrych. Like in Doctor Who. Oh, like from... In Doctor Who. Your own definition made you laugh that hard? When you hear someone else say it. When you hear someone else say it. Then it sounds weird. It sounds really odd.
Starting point is 01:20:39 When I wrote it, it was perfectly normal. Well, you did convince Adam to select it, so you get a point there. Good job. I called it Dargon. Whatever you called convince Adam to select it, so you get a point there, good job. Called it doggone. Whatever you called it, I appreciate it. Mm-hmm, always just lending a hand around here. Matthew, let's see here.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Matthew and John Henry, they piled on to Zenus. Is that how I should pronounce it, BMC, Zenus? They don't care what you do. He doesn't care, but he made it up. That was BMC's response. So two points for him. Nobody picked Jaggies, unfortunately. Nobody picked Ossobuna.
Starting point is 01:21:13 That's Ossobuna. It's more like Ossobu-na. You should have put like a pronunciation guide in there for me. I should have, but I figured you'd get it. Oh no, I can't get that. When you, you know, it's O-S-O-B-O-O-N-A-H, nah. Oh so boo?
Starting point is 01:21:34 Nah. Oh so boo, nah. Apologize. And then BMC picked Applerate. Is that how you pronounce that one, Matthew? Applerate? Yep, that sounds right to me. Okay, one point for you.
Starting point is 01:21:44 Nobody picked Neuroforge. John. Nobody picked Neuroforge. John Henry almost picked Neuroforge. But then he changed his mind. That was the correct response from ChatGPT. So four points go to Jared. Who? Oh, man. You know, I don't know about four points
Starting point is 01:21:57 going to you on this round. This is a fake round. Oh, you would say that, Mr. One Point. Wait, don't people get a point if other people pick their definition? Yeah. Yes, don't I get points? Yeah, you got one, I gave you one.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Oh, I can say it's both. You're too busy laughing at it. Yeah, you get a point. Oh, thank you, Jared. You're welcome. Appreciate it. You can have another one if you'd like. I can have another one? I don't know if you wanna do that.
Starting point is 01:22:22 No, me, I can have another one for good measure. Oh, why would I like that? I could have another one if I don't know if you want to do that. No, me. I can have another one. Oh, why would I like that? I could have another one if you like. I like that. We can both have another one if you like. We can all have a few more if we like. After round seven, we're getting near the end, y'all. Matthew from first with 12.
Starting point is 01:22:40 BMC with 11. John Henry with 10. I move into fourth with eight points, Angelica has seven, and Adam has 1.3 repeating decimal. 2.3 repeating decimal. Did he get somebody? Yeah, didn't he get a point? No, he got also boo, nah.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Oh, I thought it was a point, it was so like happy. Oh, you know, I'm just happy to be here, man. He's just happy to be here. I wish I would have pronounced it better for you. I know. Well, the actual definition is pretty solid. Yeah, it was good. The word's funny, but the definition's solid.
Starting point is 01:23:15 I didn't really understand it. A spherical shield around itself. That is completely- It's a spherical shield around itself, you know? So like a, how does a shield go around itself? Is it two shields? You should have said a spherical shield encompassing an object.
Starting point is 01:23:31 It's like imagine, imagine being, it's like a force field. Oh. That's what it is. A spherical shield around itself. Like a tattle shell. So is it shielding itself? Is the shield shielding itself? Is it shielding itself? It's like a sphere.
Starting point is 01:23:47 So do you know how spheres work? No, I'm a flat earther at this point so I don't really know. It's not circle. It's not flat Stanley. It's a circle. You know, a real sphere. Right. What's inside of a sphere?
Starting point is 01:23:57 Oh, so it's like a gyroscope. A wheel on a wheel. It's inside of itself. What's inside is itself concentric spheres that's right, and it's completely impenetrable and Indestructible to everything but it had to be penetrated for another sphere to go in there. Well, no it formed It formed. Yeah And so once it was formed what was inside could never be you know penetrated
Starting point is 01:24:23 So then if it's impenetrable, why would there need to be multiple layers? It is not multiple layers, it's one layer. Itself, what's inside the sphere and the sphere itself. Okay, got it. I like this world, this is a fun world. Yeah, yeah. The person who discovered it was with his girlfriend,
Starting point is 01:24:37 but she was disagreeable. So he said, that's an also boo. And she said, nah. You know what, we should give him a point. That's a good story. All right. We'll give you a 3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 333. .
Starting point is 01:24:52 . You have to define a clavichord. Adam, why am I thinking about beef bones? There are many reasons. God, really? Maybe you're hungry. Is that what asabuco is? Asabucna. That's when you turn down the asabuco.
Starting point is 01:25:20 I thought it had like bone marrow in it or something. That's like a drink isn't it? If you drink cow juice. Osso buco. Oh yeah because osso- ossoeri bone also it must be something like that. Uh osso buco or osso buco also known as obuco a la milanese is a specialty of Lombard quinzine Of crossville shanks braised with vegetables Wine that is white as well as broth sometimes garnished with a little dash of
Starting point is 01:26:04 Ossobuna a little dash of uh... osobu na laughter laughter laughter laughter laughter laughter
Starting point is 01:26:19 laughter The word in round 8 is clavichord clavichord clavichord. Clavichord. Six definitions. However, two of our contestants know what a clavichord is. And those two people are Brakemaster Cylinder and Adam Stachowiak. So three points to each of you. A default three and the rest will play on.
Starting point is 01:26:44 So clavichord, is it the muscular and nervous tissue in between the clavicle and scapula? Or is it an avant-garde type of body modification involving the precise insertion of jewelry through the skin above the clavicle bones connected by a decorative cord that drapes across the upper chest and shoulders? Or is it a woodwind instrument similar to a clarinet with 14 keys? Or is it a quiet archaic keyboard instrument with struck strings that's barely audible? There's your four definitions and we start with Matthew. So we have two relatively bodily definitions and then two instrument definitions. Is that correct?
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yes. The bodily definitions are what? Tissue and muscle around the clavicle and then some yeah the muscular nervous tissue and then the other one is a body modification Involving insertion of jewelry through the skin above the clavicle bones Okay, so when the ones are connected by a decorative cord that drapes across the upper chest and shoulders And then the other ones are instruments one being a wind instrument a woodwind instrument And then the other ones are instruments, one being a wind instrument? A woodwind instrument, similar to a clarinet with 14 keys. And then the other one being a quiet, archaic keyboard instrument with struck strings that
Starting point is 01:28:11 are barely audible. So one's a wind and one's a string instrument. Correct. Okay. I don't know. This is a weird one because clavicle clavic sounds bony body body But then you have cord that sounds more that sounds more string instruments like
Starting point is 01:28:35 I'm confused it. Can I call a lifeline? How does lifelines work in this game? Do we have any? You can call me. I'll listen. You can't talk to these two. I can't talk to anybody. Okay. They know what it is I'm in between the instrument ones, honestly. I think. I don't know. Clavichord. Clavichord, clavichord. I'm trying to say it and maybe my mind somewhere will be like,
Starting point is 01:28:58 you've heard this before, Matt. In this context, have fun. I think I'll just go with the, not the wind instrument one, the other one. The one that's an instrument, but not. The keyboard instrument? Yeah. Yeah, let's do that one.
Starting point is 01:29:13 All right, there you go. And we skip BMC, we go to John Henry. You know, I think I'm gonna go with the body modification. I think it's a made up word. I think that might be what it is. Number two. Number two. And we go now to Angelica.
Starting point is 01:29:34 I'm also thinking that it's an instrument. Okay, there's two instruments to pick from. BMC got it right, right? Right. I feel like I'm gonna think it's musically written then. Smart, or not smart, you decide. And then what was it, what were the two options? It was the pianist, piano-like shenanigan, or?
Starting point is 01:29:54 Correct. The flute-like thing. Clarinet, flute, you know, woodwind versus string. I think it's, and which one did you do, Matthew? I did the stringed instrument one, yeah. Can you tell me the definition of the clavichord one? Like the words you used? Can you give me the exact definition?
Starting point is 01:30:12 Wait what? Pardon me? Can you give me the words that you used for the clavichord musical instrument leaning to? You want me to give you those two definitions again? Okay. One's a woodwind instrument similar to a clarinet with 14 keys. And the other one's a quiet archaic keyboard instrument
Starting point is 01:30:32 with struck strings, barely audible. Barely audible. I'm gonna go with the one that Matthew did. Okay, she's piling on to the strings. Cause Matthew's winning, right? Correct. I feel like I trust his intuition. Well, what is, after all, a clavichord? BMC, do you wanna school us?
Starting point is 01:30:53 What's a clavichord? It's like an old piano kind of thingy. It predates the piano forte and it's harpsichord-like. Thank you. There you go. You're welcome. Adam also knew that. I made my definition up. I had no idea. There you go. You're welcome. Adam also knew that. I made my definition up.
Starting point is 01:31:07 I had no idea. Are you serious? I made it up. Wait, really? No way. What was his definition? A distant relative to the harpsichord that uses keys in a linear arrangement.
Starting point is 01:31:17 Yup. I mean, that's pretty much the same. That's pretty good. Yeah, it works for me. Were you so surprised when you got it right? I was. I was like, whoa. Did you know what a harpsichord was?
Starting point is 01:31:31 Oh yeah. Okay, that makes sense. I'm gonna go with, I'm gonna just like. Yeah. Keep it going, yeah. Just make it up. Just make it up. I'm just gonna push it.
Starting point is 01:31:39 Dude, you made it up pretty closely. Close enough that it fooled me. I thought you knew it. I did though. Three points. All right, so yes, it is the archaic keyboard instrument, which means Matthew and Angelica got it right. So you each get two.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Thank you Matthew. You're welcome. John Henry picked the body modification, which was Angelica's. So she gets another point there. So lots of points this round, except for me. Angelica got three, BMC got three, Adam got three, Matthew got two, John Henry and I shut out,
Starting point is 01:32:13 which means we have one more round to play because 14 to 14, you two are tied, Matthew and BMC, in first, so this will probably, this will definitely be the last round when somebody gets shut out, unless you both get shut out, I suppose. And Angelica has 10, John Henry has 10, I have eight, and Adam has 4.6, repeating decimal.
Starting point is 01:32:35 So we have to shut out Matthew and BMC and the rest of us have to catch up. Now I'll give you guys the option for the final round. We can do a typical another word, or I have another round which is another give it a goog. We can do that one instead. This will be our last round I assume. We can pick from those two.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Which ones you wanna do? And what was the first one? Just another word. I can't tell you what the word is cause that might soil it. But it's a standard round or give it a goog. Goog. You guys wanna goog it?
Starting point is 01:33:02 Cause I wanna make you guess the auto. That's the auto complete one. Yeah. It's so hard, but it's also so easy. I mean, if it says near me at the end, you know. All right, well, we'll do that round. We'll do give it a go and the phrase that I began, the words I put in for into Google dot com incognito window is why is my why is mine and we'll see what we think the
Starting point is 01:33:28 autocomplete suggested for the phrase why is my this is pg rated this is a family show okay great good tonight keep it somewhat relatively i would always I just wanted to clarify. So y'all want to get together and watch that weird clown movie or what? July 27th Hey, I had like a didn't have bad reviews actually He who gets slapped that was the name. Yeah, he who gets slapped Hmm. This is for all the marbles right here. Unless BMC and Matt both get shut out, then we have to play the the last round, but
Starting point is 01:34:12 unlikely. Come on marbles. Now, what if they both score the exact same amount of points? Hmm. Probably just announce them as co-winners. Sudden death, seal them out. Lightning round. That's right. A good lightning round it. Co-winners sudden death seal them out lightning round That's right. Good lightning round it. Oh winner was so much nicer than
Starting point is 01:34:30 Yeah, co-winner would be nice. It's like You know the communist style we all win participation trophies speaking of all winning He who gets slapped is in the public domain. You guys really we can have our own show race That's actually pretty cool January 2020 is when it went into the public domain. Oh dang. Oh, it looks really quite creepy Yes, it's the only problem. I'm really not a fan of clowns. All right, we have all the auto completes I Surmise that this will be a hard one to identify
Starting point is 01:35:06 the correct answer because they're all plausible. So plausible. So give it a go. Why is my potential answer number one, computer so slow? Why is my computer so slow? Number two, why is my eye twitching? Number three, why is my eye twitching? Number three, why is my leg bruised? Number four, why is my hair falling out?
Starting point is 01:35:33 Number five, why is my poop green? Number six, why is my pee red? Oh, it's Christmas. One of those was the actual autocomplete suggestion. But which one was it? First up this round, John Henry. Can you read the first four? I can read them all, they're fast.
Starting point is 01:35:55 Number one, why is my computer so slow? Number two, why is my eye twitching? Number three, why is my leg bruised? Number four, why is my hair falling out? Number five, why is my poop green?? Number four, why is my hair falling out? Number five, why is my poop green? And number six, why is my pee red? I'm gonna go with number one. Google's on the computer.
Starting point is 01:36:12 People have computer issues. Okay, there you go, number one. Adam, what about you? I'm down with the colors. Just trying to choose a color. What color? You like green? Yeah, I'm going red or green.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Red or green. I like Christmas a lot, you know, is.. It's a good sign. Should I go north or south? Right. Both of these are concerning. Like if your pee is red or if your poop is green, they're both concerning. It's Christmas.
Starting point is 01:36:36 That's why. It's Christmas. Which one you going with? Let's go with the dookie, huh? There's another show title. Go with the dookie, huh? Let's go with the dookie. That was, there's another show title, Go With The Dookie. Go with the dookie, huh? Ah, okay.
Starting point is 01:36:50 How about Angelica? I mean, I feel like my PG definition is a higher bar than I think, because I was thinking that it was going to be excrement related, but that was why I asked, So I didn't put that. Oh, so you didn't. See, no, I didn't put that because I thought it was not PG. I was unsure.
Starting point is 01:37:12 So, but that is my, that was my original thought. OK. So I'm also going to go with that one. With the number one or number two? The first, the number two. Number two. The first one you said. Number two, the green two. Number two. Number two, the first one you said. Number two, the green one.
Starting point is 01:37:27 The green. Yes. Number two. She's going with number two, green. She's going Duke. I'm way too excited about this. Okay. She's following me, man.
Starting point is 01:37:38 You know what I'm saying? That means I'm on the right path. Matthew. So what do we have here? We have. What do we have? Well, we've got one person pick computer so slow. Two people have picked poop green.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Okay, so we have computer slow, poop green, pee red. Something about an eye. Eye twitching, hair falling out, leg bruised. Hair falling out, leg bruised, eye twitching, pee, poop. Just. What is. It's literally everything here is bodily related, I twitching pee poop It's literally everything here is bodily related which is funny except for yeah, well, I mean this is what we Google I guess why is my it is funny that to be pretty picked the dookie one though
Starting point is 01:38:18 I just want to like commutally pick the dookie one at this point dookie I'm gonna like commutally pick the dookie one at this point. Commutal dookie. I'm gonna pile on the poo. It's a good party. Pile on the poo. This is a first for us here at ChangeLog. And hopefully it's a last. Okay, BMC, your final pick here.
Starting point is 01:38:39 You gonna pile on the poo? Computer so slow. Final answer? Yes, cause it's the last round and you said it first. Oh, he's playing the meta game, huh? What a game. We'll see if that pays off. That went into my calculus actually.
Starting point is 01:38:53 But then he also plans for that so it's never quite. Yeah, I randomize the order every round. Are we split on two this round? We are. So we have two on computer so slow and we have three on poop green. Let me tell you some of the alternates that almost were the top one. Why is my eye twitching? That was actually the number two autocomplete suggestion.
Starting point is 01:39:14 It was also Adam's guess. So you were very close to hitting it. No one selected it though. But a lot of people are apparently Googling why is my eye twitching? I was thinking that myself. Now why is my P cloudy?? I was thinking that myself. Now, why is my pee cloudy? That was the number three autocomplete.
Starting point is 01:39:30 Why is my pee red? That was close, BMC. BMC actually came up with that one. If your pee is red, that's a problem. That's a big problem. Huge problem. Go to the hospital right now. Have you ever heard of something called Beats?
Starting point is 01:39:44 Okay, do you know how many Beats you need to eat? We love Beats around here, BMC. I know all about. Hospital right now. Yeah, I heard of something called beats We love beats around here VNC You know all about beats also getting punched in the kidneys now the other Suggested autocomplete was why is my poop black? But the number one autocomplete and all of Google at least least for my incognito tab, is why is my poop green? So Adam, Angelica and Matt all got it. People got it even figuring out why the poop's green. Two points for Adam, two points for Angelica,
Starting point is 01:40:17 two points for Matthew. And that puts them over the top. But not only that, but why is my computer so slow? Yeah, that was Matt's as well. So he got two more points because you guys piled onto Matt. We all pood piled together. We did.
Starting point is 01:40:33 That's great. So he got four points that round? He got four points. Adam gets two. Angelica gets two. That puts him over the requisite 15 with 18 points. Matthew Sonabria is our pound to find winner.
Starting point is 01:40:44 Congrats, Matt. Is that the ultimate number? Jeff, like 18 is high. It's about as high as you can get because 15 is the winning amount and you have to go over. So good job, Matthew. You have any final words before we call the show? I know we've kept you all here a long time.
Starting point is 01:41:00 We should all go see he who gets slapped. I think that's that's the takeaway here. We should all do it. We should. We should have like a way. What are thoselapped. I think that's the takeaway here. We should all do it. We should, we should have like a. What are those things called when you stream it all at the same time? Yeah, stream party.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Stream, co-stream party. Just for, just entertain me, Jared. Read my definition again for that one. For He Who Gets Slapped? Yes. In a world where hand gestures have gone too far, a group of friends vowed to change things and restore the old ways of simple handshakes and high fives.
Starting point is 01:41:30 Say noble. That's good stuff. That'd be a good movie. I feel like if it had been released this year, that would be it. Well, you know. You get slapped. Kind of gives away the ending and the title, you know? Yeah, it kind of does.
Starting point is 01:41:47 I did learn a lot of new words coming onto this show. I feel like it was educational show. Yeah, well, that's what we're here for is to educate. That's why we play this game. Just pure education. There's no faster way actually to learn. There is no faster way. Than this.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Something about my cheeks hurt. I've been smiling too much. I'm like, I need to do some. Something about my cheeks hurt, I've been smiling too much. I'm like, I need to do some like exercises because my cheeks hurt. The, so the Googles were basically money and bodily function. And then AI was just AI.
Starting point is 01:42:17 AI is always just AI. Yeah, AI is just AI. That was, what was that? Something, something core, what was it again? Oh yeah, it was like neuro-forge, I think. Neuro-forge, yeah. It was like source-forge, but not. It actually sounded a lot like Neuralink to me,
Starting point is 01:42:32 which maybe that's where it got it from. You know, a device implanted in the cerebral cortex sounds like Neuralink, something they're up to. I also learned that clearly I didn't have a childhood because I didn't know what Oobleck was. No. Oh my gosh, well, as much as I would love to stand and do more, I'm not.
Starting point is 01:42:50 All right, that is our game. Congrats to our winner, Matthew. Thank you, BMC, Angelica, John Henry, everybody for joining us. This has been an absolute riot. There are other Pound to Find game shows in the feed. Go find them if you enjoy this. You can listen to other ridiculous games. And you can also find other games that aren't just Pound Defined,
Starting point is 01:43:11 Front End Feud, Go For Se, JS Danger, other such things at changelaw.com slash topic slash games. That's all for this week. Thanks for hanging out, everybody. And we'll talk to you on the next one. Bye, the Beats. Bye, friends. And we'll talk to you on the next one. By the beats. By friends. By friends.
Starting point is 01:43:27 By BMC. By. By his album. By his music. By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music.
Starting point is 01:43:35 By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music. By my music.
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