The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source - #define: piggyback (Friends)

Episode Date: August 30, 2024

What happens when you take two #define champs (Taylor Troesh, Thomas Eckert), a grizzled veteran (Adam Stacoviak), a british bard (Mat Ryer), a PhD (Carol Lee) & you pit them against each other in a g...ame of fake tech definitions?! There's only one way to find out...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Changelog and Friends, a weekly talk show about sesquipedalians. Big thanks to our partners at Fly.io. Over 3 million apps have launched on Fly. You can too in less than five minutes. Learn how at Fly.io. Okay, let's play. Okay, friends, here are the top 10 launches from Supabase's launch week, number 12. Read all the details about this launch at supabase.com slash launch week. Okay, here we go. Number 10, Snaplet is now open source.
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Starting point is 00:03:44 to get all the details on this launch or go to superbase.com slash changelogpod for one month of Superbase Pro for free. That's S-U-P-A-B-A-S-E dot com slash changelogpod. Hello and welcome back to Pound Define, also known as Hash Define in less sophisticated areas or octothorpe define if you're into obscure made-up words which we certainly are and this game is all about obscure words and what they mean also what they don't mean as our intrepid contestants will be rewarded for lying like skilled politicians i'm jared santo your host on this ridiculous ride, and playing this round, it's our returning champion, Thomas Eckert. Welcome back, Thomas. Happy to be back, and in the graces of some more legends, and maybe a future legend, and Carol.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Speaking of Carol, she will be playing the role of the noob, a.k.a. the doctor. It's Carol Lee, Ph.D. Welcome, Carol. She will be playing the role of the noob, aka the doctor. It's Carol Lee, PhD. Welcome, Carol. Thank you. Are you excited? Are you scared? You know what? I'm just taking it how it goes. I know Taylor's like a chaos machine, so I'm just prepared for chaos. That's all I'm ready for. Chaos machine. Taylor is a chaos machine. He's also a winning machine. He's previously won this game as well.
Starting point is 00:05:28 So we have a few champions here. Of course, you're referring to Taylor Trosh. What's up, man? What up? How are you feeling? Are you feeling ambitious or mischievous for both? I am feeling... No, I'm definitely feeling mischievous. I don't want to win.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I just want everyone to lose. Okay. He just wants to see the world burn. One of those kind of guys. Yeah,'t want to win. I just want everyone to lose, you know? Okay. He just wants to see the world burn. One of those kind of guys. Yeah, yeah. Fair enough. Well, speaking of burning, that doesn't even make sense. It's Matt Reier.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Hey, Matt. Hello. Thank you. Good link. Good to be here. Good to have you. How are you feeling today? Good old Matt fire.
Starting point is 00:06:01 It does work, actually, if you do it like that. Nice. I saved you. Thank you. I'm not feeling great, I i'll be honest i'm jet lagged i came i've been in san francisco recently and uh yeah and then when you come back nothing makes sense like i know what time it is on the clock but doesn't feel right you know you sort of have a feeling of the time so it didn't feel can't feel the date it's a convenient excuse i like it yeah matt's already getting his excuses lined up yeah yeah that's why i'm gonna definitely lose uh no but i would take it seriously i'm gonna try and win thomas i played against thomas last time
Starting point is 00:06:36 and i don't know this wasn't made clear at the beginning but he seems like he might be educated and i think that's which was we found was an unfair advantage. Educated people are the worst. It's true. Carol's actually the most educated. Although, Taylor, do you have a PhD? I'm not a very competitive person. I'm just kind of in it to have fun.
Starting point is 00:06:53 So I feel like Taylor's the one you have to watch out for. I'll tell you who you have to watch out for. It's the man who hasn't made a noise yet because he's over there strategizing. It's Adam Stachowiak. What's up, Adam? You know, I'm just thrilled to be here on this very awesome game show.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It is an incredible opportunity and I'm feeling both excited and I'm just being honest, just a little bit nervous today. Right. I can't wait to see what happens today. Now, Adam, if you were to get an honorary PhD based on the things you know how to do, what would your PhD be in? Oh, great question.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I would have to say a PhD in BS. Well, that should play to your strengths in this game, shouldn't it? And by BS, I mean brain science. Oh, okay. That was cute. That was some good BS right there. Well, that should play to your strengths in this game, shouldn't it? And by BS, I mean brain science. Oh, okay. Brain science. That was cute. That was some good BS right there. Well, let me briefly describe the game and then we will get right into it.
Starting point is 00:07:52 This is the game of fake definitions. We have 10 rounds of play or 15 points scored will win. If you can get that done prior to 10 rounds, good on you. The way it works is I will present a word and the five of you will submit to me fake definitions of that word, unless you happen to know exactly what it means. You can submit to me the correct definition
Starting point is 00:08:13 and I will award you with three points immediately. If not, fake definitions are submitted. I gather them, I read them aloud in randomized orders, and then we go around the circle and see who can guess the correct definition. If you get it right at that point, you get two points. If somebody else picks your fake definition, you get one point per person, unless it's yourself. And we have a lot of fun along the way.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Any questions before we hop into round one? The one bit of context here is the default style of word is STEM. So science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. We also include science fiction and fantasy, just to broaden it slightly. But there are also non-STEM rounds where any word will work. And I will let you guys know what those are as we go. But first round is a normal round. And your word for round one is Cavarite. Cavarite. That's C-A-V-O-R-I-T-E.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Please submit to me your definitions now. There are no bonus points for submitting first but adam will probably submit last i have carol i have thomas's matt's and taylor's now matt what brought you to uh san francisco well i have friends there and um well don't be so surprised by that. No, I'm not surprised. I know, it's so weird. Say more. So I went to see them. That's nice, thanks. But I went in a Waymo also.
Starting point is 00:09:54 The self-driving taxi. Across the ocean? No. It was surprisingly good. Where were your expectations that made it surprisingly good? Expectations probably were your expectations that made it surprisingly good? Expectations probably were high because of Knight Rider and the sci-fi. I sort of already expect we should have this.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So I'm a bit annoyed that all cars need to have a person in them making them do it. So this was just doing it on its own, though. It was like a ghost was driving, except I don't believe in ghosts. So a spirit. So you don't believe in ghosts. So, a spirit? So you don't believe in ghosts, but you do believe in spirits? Well, anyway, it was driving itself up the steep hills. It was like a roller coaster at times. Up the steep hills in San Francisco and down them.
Starting point is 00:10:37 And you just think, hopefully it knows to stop. You know, you imagine some of the code in there. If hills go slow on it and stop when bottom you know i don't know what language that is but something like that that's pseudocode imagine though it just drives around you don't have to talk to anyone is i think it's the future and i wish all cars were like this now already i want to take this time to coin a phrase i think we should be calling self-driving cars, we should be calling them autos. Oh. That was just good.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Yeah. What about just automobile? It's already a word. I mean, it's literally true. I know, but it's fell out of fashion. People don't say auto anymore. If somebody's like, excuse me, sir, would you like to get in my vehicle? I'd be like, no thanks. Just don't call them auto-magical, and I'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Let's see what our definitions were for round one. Our word was cavorite. Now, a quick disclaimer. As your humble host, it's difficult to read some of these definitions without laughing. My laughter does not indicate a fake definition. Every once in a while, I will laugh at the real definition in order to confound you. So, don't...
Starting point is 00:11:49 Question. Do you find the dictionary funny? Sometimes. Okay. I'm really curious about your fake laugh at the real definition. Oh, you won't know when it hits. We'll see. It's something that a cabaret would do.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I have a PhD in BS, so you will not know. All right, let's read our fake definitions and our real definition to the best of our ability. I will now maximize this so I can't see your faces. Cavorite, a type of equestrian gait between a trot and a gallop named for its cavorting nature. That's number one. Number two, a proprietary fixative used in dental practices to fix cavities. It was marketed with the slogan, Cavarite keeps your smile bright.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's a nice slogan. Number three, a style of hat made popular in the 1950s by Bridget Biscowit and the Boomtown Band. Number four, somebody who stays out late at night. Number five, when used in a sentence, it is often included with the word cave. This is
Starting point is 00:12:56 due to the... Sorry, what? Who's laughing? Caves together? Close? Yeah. This is due to nature of the root word cav or a toos which means to be in a cave that is useful though to have a word that is it means both cave or in a cave yeah yeah right that means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing all right so there's the differentiator it's a cave that cannot collapse or number six a fictional material that has the ability to negate
Starting point is 00:13:31 the force of gravity those are six definitions for the word cavorite some better than others let's see what you all think we'll start with Carol. Which do you think is the correct definition? I think it's the last one. The last one. The fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity? Okay. We go now to Thomas. I was also leaning there, but
Starting point is 00:13:57 I gotta be careful to not trigger the pylon song. Yeah, it's pretty early for a pylon. Yeah. Round one pylon. You can't do that. Yeah, it could be people for a pylon. Yeah. Round one pylon. You can't do that. Yeah. Could be people who are out late at night. Cavarite. What was the equestrian one? Is it a type of gate that the
Starting point is 00:14:14 horse... Yeah, it's between a trot and a gallop. Named for its cavorting nature. Yes, G-A-I-T. I thought it was literally a big fence for holding in horses. And for the listeners caverite is spelled favorite with a C
Starting point is 00:14:30 it's a really dumb word I'm already against it alright thank you for that context why wouldn't it be caverite then caverite not caverite it's not Taylor's caverite it's not my cave-rit word.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Your favorite cave-rit. Thomas? I'm going to say it's a person who stays out late at night. Okay. That's number two? That's number four. Number two was the fixative use in dental practices. All right, we go now to Matt. Which do you think is the correct
Starting point is 00:15:05 definition i was swung by i was interested in those same answers the same options as thomas so four and six but then i learned that gates meant way to walk that changed everything for you yeah that made me think it's even more that that sounds even more like something but there's also um something yeah i don't know i think i'm gonna go with the last one it won't be a pile on as we know but uh i'm gonna go with the the fictional thing matt goes with the fictional thing cal's got a phd so now let's go to taylor you don't have to get a a PhD if you just copy what someone else with a PhD does it's the same psychology for the
Starting point is 00:15:49 record so I gave everyone a master's degree last time that's true so that's true I forgot to use mine actually unfortunately I defenestrated mine you defenestrated yours yeah
Starting point is 00:15:58 yeah well I didn't like it Taylor what are you gonna go with Bridgerton boom boom that's number I didn't like it. Taylor, which are you going to go with? Bridgerton Boom Boom. That's number three, the style of hat made popular by Bridgerton Boom Boom. I believe it was the Boom Band, actually. Adam, it's your turn to guess, sir. Can I hear number five again, please?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Do I have to? Yes. I just want to know what it says. Oh. When used in a sentence, it is often included with the word cave. Sorry. It's included with it. I've never heard that. I don't know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:16:38 I don't want to say it. Cave. Cavorite. Cave. Do you want me to read the rest of that? Also, why do you need the word cave if that means that as well? Well, it's a cave impossible of collapsing. So it's a cavorite cave.
Starting point is 00:16:54 Yes. Whole definition, please. You want to go with that one? No. I want to hear the whole definition. Oh, you want to hear the whole thing? Yes, please. This is due to the nature of the root word cav or atus,
Starting point is 00:17:09 which means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing. Let's go with that one. Okay. It's a very good fake if that's not real, isn't it? Adam picks that one. Excellent. Well, let's start right there. Adam thinks cavarite means... Read the
Starting point is 00:17:27 definition. When used in a sentence, it's often used with the word cave. I don't know. He wrote it himself. That's your own one. So you both made me read it, and then you selected it, and you get zero points. It's just too good. It's just too good. I don't understand the logic to that one. You should have pride in your words.
Starting point is 00:17:42 He tricked himself. It was just one of to him. Yeah. It was just one of those things. Okay. It was, wasn't it? That one's for the show. Thomas thought maybe cabaret meant somebody who stays out at night. Taylor wrote that one,
Starting point is 00:17:55 so one point for Taylor. Nice one, Taylor. And Taylor thought it was the Bridgerton hat, but that one was Matt's, so one point for Matt. Boomtown band. Boomtown band. Boomtown. That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:18:06 Classic. That was a very good one. How do you pronounce that word? Bridgette Biscowett? I don't know. I just put in loads of letters and left it for you to worry about. You're making my job harder over here. Yep.
Starting point is 00:18:15 And then almost a pile on, but not quite, Carol and Matt both went with a fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity. That is Cavarite, first depicted by H.G. Wells in his 1901 scientific romance, The First Men in the Moon. So Carol and Matt both scored two points there, giving Matt three for the round. Carol two, Taylor one, Adam and Thomas with zero.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I also scored zero. I did not mention that caveat. If nobody picks the correct definition, I score three points for the round, which I'm at a zero. And so after round one, Matt in first with three, Carol with two, Taylor with one. We move now to round two. This is a non-STEM round, so broaden your horizons. And your word for round two is Gallimaufry. That's spelled G-A-L-L-I-M-A-U-F-R-Y. Gallimaufry.
Starting point is 00:19:16 F-R-Y? F-R-Y. Not P-H-R-E-Y? Correct. Oh, dude. I have no idea that. Oh, right. If it was P-H, would you have an idea? That F really rocked your world, Taylor. Yeah, dude. I have no idea that. Oh, right. If it was pH, would you have an idea?
Starting point is 00:19:27 That F really rocked your world, Taylor. Yeah, dude. All right. Well, please submit your fake definitions now. I wish those letters were all different letters. Then I'd have an idea what this word meant. Not to make everyone self-conscious, but I really enjoy... I know I said this earlier, but I like everyone's thinking faces.
Starting point is 00:19:45 And like what you look like when you're thinking. And Taylor always looks so concerned. He does. It's really sweet. He furls his brow. Yeah. I'm like, it's going to be okay, Taylor. You got it.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, I get in trouble at home. My wife's like, we're going gonna have to pay for botox if you if you keep on doing that because they just do it all day i'm just like resting furl face yeah but it has like a tinge of sadness to it strangely it does yeah like it you don't look angry like matt kind of looks angry yeah yeah i would say like maybe downtrodden yeah whereas taylor you kind of look like i don't, writing sad things in your diary. You know, sad and deep things. Maybe he's just really upset with his definitions.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Yeah, that is true. I'm very, very upset with the stat. Oh, actually, I've got a good one now. Now, Carol, what is your PhD in? Clinical psychology. Okay, so that's why you're looking at everyone's face. Oh yeah, it's what I do, I just look at people's faces. Don't we have to accept cookies or something before you're allowed to do that?
Starting point is 00:20:53 That's pretty good. It's like special skills, I used to think that on Star Trek, there's a character called Deanna Troi, and she would just read the emotions and stuff and just tell everyone. And she's like, what are you doing, you can't do that that's really really invasive really invasive yeah yeah but weird could she actually read minds like it was no just like feelings and that she would just say like if he's lying or if he's mad or whatever she'd be like captain who's going to blow our faces off and you're like diana that's his personal i'd be like if i was captain picard i'd be like diana don't invade his personal thoughts that's a really
Starting point is 00:21:33 good point so yeah but that's it i run i run a different kind of ship to captain picard i guess what kind of a ship do you run it'd be it'd have good morals but i don't think it would be around for long you know unprecedented adam has submitted prior to somebody else wow congrats mate unless taylor did you submit yours i didn't see it no no i'm doing it okay because you said you're disappointed watch his face he's still yeah yeah he's still he still looks concerned he's obviously thinking come on now he's now he's gonna be self-conscious because we're all staring at the stage. I know. I'm sorry, Taylor. I'm sorry. Dude, no. It's the metagame.
Starting point is 00:22:11 He's playing the metagame. Yeah. The metagame is the best game. Thomas just kind of looks chronically cheerful. I'm not going to lie. Oh, sorry. No, it's very sweet. I don't have to apologize for looking cheerful.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Yeah, it's a good thing. You're so happy about your thinking. I like thinking. Thomas looks low-res to me. Thomas, are you feeling all right? You look low-res. I feel a little low-res today. I got not a great sleep, and I feel maybe I'm getting sick,
Starting point is 00:22:41 but I'm in the denial phase. Yeah, the different phases of being sick yeah i'm in the denial phase until suddenly i'm not you know i'm like it's allergies it's allergies all right here comes taylor's your legs off it's allergies Oh, boy. Okay. We now have all of our definitions. For round two, this is a non-STEM word. Gallimaufry.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Gallimaufry. Hard to say. Easy to define. For Carol, she actually knew the definition of this one, so she sits this round out. She scores three points right off the bat. Really moving herself into the lead. So you guys are playing catch up with Dr. Noob over there. Who should we read first?
Starting point is 00:23:31 Let's read this one first. Gallimaufry, the back section of a Roman cathedral where communion is prepared. Where what is prepared? Communion. Oh, it's not that one then. I heard comedian. That was really good. No, they used to have,
Starting point is 00:23:45 they used to do stand-up before mass. It's like before we get to the eating, eating the cracker and having the thing. Yeah. Here's our Roman stand-up. Number two, a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and veggies.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Number three, a concerned, pensive, downtrodden, forlorn face that is bound to need botox injections which some people are very very self-conscious of carol you meanie i think that was the real definition i know it's definitely the real definition yeah yeah that's why carol knew it yeah Number four, an originally Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall.
Starting point is 00:24:31 And number five, a roofing material derived from aluminum. Did you say roofie or roofing? A roofing material derived from aluminum. Roofie. There are your five definitions. Yeah, roofie material would be something entirely different. We will start with Thomas. You only have five to pick from, so it should be easier.
Starting point is 00:24:53 Yeah, you know, I'm leaning towards the Shakespearean fall character. That seems like something that would show up in Shakespeare. Okay. It sounds like one of those funny English words from england where they make up all kinds of things right yeah all right matt what do you think ah i don't remember any of them okay i can reread some if you just give me a one word yeah one word summary of each all right it's a good challenge gpt what would you number one was communion oh yeah number two was leftover number three would be forlorn forlorn face number four would be shakespearean yep and number five would be
Starting point is 00:25:39 aluminium oh curious that you're saying aluminium and that's hard for me to hear in an American accent. So I'll probably go for that one for that reason, and I think that's sound logic there at play. All right, fair enough. I've got a BS in logic. Matt picks aluminium. Yeah. We move now to Taylor,
Starting point is 00:25:57 who has a concerned, pensive, downtrodden, forlorn face as he tries to select. Gallimaufry face, yeah. He's quite gallimaufric some might say that's with the leather it's a family podcast yeah give me shakespeare brah shakespeare it is shakespeare brah we're starting one more we're one away from a pile on here on Shakespeare. And then we go to Adam. Can I hear two different definitions again, please?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Number two, and I think number four. Number two is a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and vegetables. Number four was an originally Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall. What are you thinking? I'm thinking leftovers. Can't pile on.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Anti-pile on. No pile on. Adam goes for the leftovers. He's got anti-pile cream. He's got anti-pile cream on himself. I've been lubing up with it. Okay. Family podcast. When I jump on the pile, I slipper it off. Now I like this because there's two people on this podcast that have said worse things than I've said.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And I think that makes it really safe. It's a rare occasion. Yeah. He feels like he's going to edit you pretty harshly. Pretty good. Yeah. You need that in jet lag. You sort of need a cuddle, don't you?
Starting point is 00:27:18 You need more of a cuddle. Someone to put their arms around you and just be like, don't worry. You're just jet lagging. Only if they're moisturized. Yeah. Moving on. on to go you know they put their arms around you and just be like don't worry you're just jetline if they're moisturized yeah moving on let's start right where adam left off not with the moisturizer but with a dish made from a mixture of leftover food especially meat and vegetables that's also known as a hodgepodge or a hash or a ragout or a gallimaufry. That is correct, Adam. I thought that was a bluff because of the fry at the end. A-F-R-Y. Like french fries?
Starting point is 00:27:49 No, fry like you fry food. Or like, you know, stir fry. Like a stir fry. A gallimaufry. Oh, like you fry the gallimauf. Gotcha. Got it, got it. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:59 So Adam scores two points. Good job, dude. Got the correct answer there. Wow. Matt was tricked by aluminium and adam wrote aluminium did i read it correctly for you adam for me did you spell it like that on purpose or did you luck into it because that is the british english that's how i know how to spell it okay because of johnny i've correct i only know how to spell aluminum because of johnny i've
Starting point is 00:28:20 okay so you've been influenced by johnny it makes sense well it tricked into picking it. So now you've got three points for the round. But I forgive him immediately because of the aluminium correctness. Adam, you're always welcome in our country. Thank you. Thank you. And there was a mini pile-on onto Shakespeare, this character who makes another character trip or fall, and that was Shakespearean Matt being Shakespearean himself.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Oh, you cheeky bastard. Two points for Matt. Should have noticed the beard. Shakespearean, little Shakespearean beard. It is very, yeah, you kind of have a Shakespeare thing going on. You do have a Shakespeare thing going on. Yeah, it's kind of Dogtanian style. Like Dan Tan?
Starting point is 00:29:01 Dan Tan. Dan Tan. Coming this summer. Carol has no idea what we're talking about. Dan Tan. Sorry. Dan Tan's a callback joke. That's a...
Starting point is 00:29:10 I'm curious. Question for Carol. How did you know this word? How did you come across this word in your life? I really like random books about setting random Victorian times. And sometimes weird shit comes up. And you got to look up the word. Sounds like a PhD thing, dude.
Starting point is 00:29:29 It is not a PhD thing! Books. Books. Oh, books. So gross. We didn't know that you read. She did admit when she was on the show that she doesn't read many books. I don't read a lot of psychology books.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Psychology books. Yeah. Okay. She reads a lot of Mishmash Jumbles, you know, or Gallimaufry's. I like that. I find it as a Mishmash jumble of things. I'm all romance novels, me.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I can see that. I can see that. You write romance novels? No. Do you use a pen name? Yeah. He stars in them. Matt Fryer?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Star in them? It's just me in the book. Another great day for old Matt Fryer. Tyler, I like the way earlier you said um tyler you're like sorry was it taylor taylor sorry what did i say you've given him a four-lawing look on his face oh dear you meanie we have to be careful what you say to you like looking after a tomagotchi now at this point tomagotchi taylor Tamagotchi Taylor. Yeah, you've got to give him some food.
Starting point is 00:30:28 No, but I was going to say, earlier you were like, how did you say it when you chose the Shakespeare one? It sounded like a kind of cool, high-skinned... Shakespeare bra. Shakespeare bra. Shakespeare bra. Yeah, just sound cool. You're at the end of your rope at school, you're about to get kicked out,
Starting point is 00:30:44 and a kindly teacher just somehow gets through to you and it's a touching story yeah that's exactly how it feels and then he becomes like a Shakespearean scholar there you go and that's it Romeo and Julian right? I love that book oh yeah you've modernized it
Starting point is 00:31:00 modern? nah dude I read it in the original Latin take that Matt I recognized it. Modern, naughty. I read it in the original Latin. Take that, Matt. Well, Taylor has to do stuff like that as he's in the rear here. One point so far through two rounds. Wow. He's only beating Thomas and myself who are literally in the cellar.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Well, you know, there's the caboose, then there's the rear. I don't know. These things are close together. In the cellar. Well, you know, there's the caboose, then there's the rear. I don't know. These things are close together. In the middle is Adam with three. Probably feeling pretty good about his three-point round. And Matt and Carol tied with five after two rounds. We move now to round three. Hey, friends. I'm here with Brandon Fu, co-founder and CEO of Paragon. Paragon lets B2B SaaS companies ship native integrations to production in days
Starting point is 00:31:54 with more than 130 pre-built connectors or configure own custom integrations. So Brandon, talk to me about the friction developers feel with integrations. SSO, dealing with rate limits, retries, auth, all the things. Yeah, so there's a lot here. And I think there's a lot of aspects to the different problems that you have to solve in the integration story in building these integrations and also providing them in a user friendly way for your customers to self-serve and onboard and consume those integrations. So part of what the Paragon SDK provides is that embedded user experience, again, what we call our connect portal.
Starting point is 00:32:31 That's going to provide the authentication for your users to connect their accounts. That's going to be the initial onboarding. But in addition to that, your users may also want to configure different options or settings for their integrations. A common example that we see for Salesforce or for CRM integrations in general, is that your users may want to select some type of custom object mapping.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Every CRM can be configured differently, so your users might want to map objects to some different type of record in their Salesforce, or different fields in their Salesforce. Typically, that's what developers would have to build on their own, is this UI for your users to configure these different settings for every single integration. That's also going to be what's provided by the Paragon SDK. It's not just that initial onboarding and authentication experience,
Starting point is 00:33:15 but also the configuration end-user UX for different settings like custom field mapping, selecting which types of features on your integration that your user might want to configure. And that's also going to be provided fully out of the box by Paragon SDK. Okay, cool. That's the front of the house. That's the UI layer that developers are getting. So what about the backend, the relimiting, the retries, etc? With integrations, different APIs might have different rate limits. They might have different policies that you have to conform with. And your developers typically have to learn these different nuances for every API and
Starting point is 00:33:52 write code individually to conform to those different nuances. With Paragon, because we build and maintain the connector with each of the integrations that we support in our catalog, we're automatically going to handle for things like retries, things like rate limits. For example, Paragon knows the rate limit for each provider and will automatically throttle your requests so that you can conform to the rate limit for those providers and be able to intelligently retry requests
Starting point is 00:34:20 in the event that you exceed the rate limit or a request fails. And so we look at this as sort of the backend or infrastructure layer of the integration problem that we have spent the last five years essentially building and optimizing the Paragon infrastructure to act as the integration infrastructure for your application. Okay. Paragon is built for product management. It's built for engineering. It's built for engineering. It's built for everybody. Ship hundreds of native integrations into your SaaS application in days.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Or build your own custom connector with any API. Learn more at useparagon.com slash changelog. Again, useparagon.com slash changelog. That's U-S-E-P-A-R-A-G-O-N dot com slash changelog. And your word for round three is bunyip. Bunyip. That's B-U-N-Y-I-P.
Starting point is 00:35:19 No. We're about to stem. This is stem. Is it? Correct. This is a regular round carol lee is already typing so she might know this one one of the random books sorry guys i don't want to scare you but she's already submitting pretty fast for a fake definition maybe i just think of fake things really quickly or i like to draft a lot and then choose choose the right oh so you like pre-write a bunch of
Starting point is 00:35:50 definitions and then select that's a strategy there you go oh no not in the group dm taylor that was a fake one oh okay that was just for you guys taylor's now hiding so we don't look at his face while he thinks that's how you know he's in ultra forlorn mode yeah it's like when your Tamagotchi's at the brink of death but look how happy Thomas looks when he's thinking he's got like a little smile on his face
Starting point is 00:36:18 it's so cute I can't handle it just walking around Thomas is like hmm I wonder what this is. Look at Taylor. I think he's having a seizure. It's precious. She's convulsing down there.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Oh, man. Now I'm just imagining each of you has different Tamagotchi characters. It's very odd. Thomas is just really easy to take care of. I didn't know there were Tamagotchi characters. I thought it was just like the little thing. Yeah. Isn't it just like a little blob?
Starting point is 00:36:44 It's a little pet. It's a little digital pet right do they look different i just thought they were all were they all the same thing i'm gonna look it up i know that they they they had different personalities right like they certain ones would need to eat more other ones would be sleep more oh they do have different yeah i feel like the They knew? I didn't know there was new Tamagotchis. I just figured it was a 1990s thing. Someone told me that Tamagotchi is back. I don't know if that's true. But I'm pretty sure they're back.
Starting point is 00:37:13 That would make sense. Everything comes back eventually. I feel like it could just be like an app now. Yeah. The fact that it's like its own separate thing is kind of cool. Retro. It'd be cool if you could have yourself as a little
Starting point is 00:37:27 Tamagotchi to look after though. So I could have a little Jared. Oh, not yourself but other people. That's yourself, isn't it, Jared? You want Jared to have a Jared or you want yourself to have a Jared? I mean, both are creepy. I want a Jared. He wants to have a little Jared as his pet.
Starting point is 00:37:43 No, Jared having himself would be sad. Me having a little Jared to look after I think is both are creepy. I want to have Jared. He wants to have a little Jared as his pet. No, Jared having himself would be sad. Yeah. Me having a little Jared to look after, I think is... Also sad. Yeah. Sad for whom? That's especially brutal coming from an actual doctor in this stuff. I'm sorry, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:55 To be told you're sad. Yeah. It somehow hits harder. I'm not going to lie, the Tamagotchi characters are not that cute. Well, they were just like little pixels, weren't they? Yeah. Yes. You can have a prescription to do something
Starting point is 00:38:05 cool. Gotta get cool. Gotta adopt a little Jared. Just wear shades. Oh, sorry. It's not that you're not uncool. It's that you're sad. Those are different, Matt. But you're also uncool. Sorry. Sorry. Oh, right. We'll deal with that one. They come together.
Starting point is 00:38:21 They come together. Shots fired. I just found out my mom's been lying to me for a long time. She's been telling me that I'm cool, but she's been telling other people that I'm lame. This is a... Really? This is a crisis.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Who's she been telling this to? She went on the news. She announced it in front of the public. They just have a section of the news called like mom thought it was lame it's cool this on your kid and now to our mom correspondent yeah yeah well maybe she just had to set the record straight i mean did she ask you to watch that particular program has anybody else submitted definitions i have thomas's and carol's is correct so she's gonna score more
Starting point is 00:39:05 points again but do you get more points for getting it right you get three instead of two yeah yeah it makes you feel any better taylor my mom told me my middle name was sarah and then when i got married my birth certificate just had the letter j and i was like who was carol j lee it was just the letter and she was you know, they messed it up. Never bothered fixing it. So my middle name is just a random letter. Dude, that's so cool. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It was very confusing when I was like, I don't even know if you're marrying the right person, Zach. I'm so sorry. Yeah. It's like you're destined to write a book now. Yeah, it's like you go, oh, J. Lee. J. Lee. Just not to one-up you but my mom named me trailer trash that is a one-upper if i ever say that
Starting point is 00:39:56 she had no clue is that what she said on the news no no no that was that was like when i when i was in like elementary school it's like hey mom why didn't you be trailer trash she's like oh i could see how people would see that i was like yeah she didn't she didn't she didn't see that coming huh i didn't put those two together until just now i feel like i did but also i feel like it might have been the first thing you ever said to me, Taylor, was that. Was hi, I'm Taylor Trash? No, I think I was interviewing you for the show and we were talking about your name or something. Maybe it was prior to the show starting.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Hopefully it wasn't on the air. But you were like, yeah, it's like Taylor Trash. I was like, okay. I wasn't going to say it, but you said it. There you go. Got to clear the air. And I think you had more of the look back then as well, didn't you? You still have the look?
Starting point is 00:40:50 Oh, yeah. I had the mullet. Yeah. You had the mullet with the rat tail. You had the rat tail. There's no mullet, but do you have a rat tail? No rat tail right now. This weekend, I actually had a mustache goatee thing.
Starting point is 00:41:02 I was trying to look like somebody that would tie somebody to train tracks. And I successfully did it. I did a song at a conference and all right now I wanted to look like a villain, villainous creature. I was explaining to someone how I knew you. And I was like, I met him at a conference he had a hair tie, he had a fanny pack full of babies and they were like, what does this person look like? And I pulled up your picture just from the internet it was like you with the mullet and the glasses and they were like, this person looks like they would have a fanny pack of babies and I was like, yeah. A fanny pack of babies? That doesn't seem like you could carry a lot of babies. Are they very small?
Starting point is 00:41:44 You'd be surprised. pack of babies that doesn't seem like you could carry a lot of babies are they very small very very small little plastic babies and you slip them in people's pockets when when nobody's looking adam didn't you take one of those home on the finger i was really sad because i wanted to get my my finger out my finger hand the finger baby i have a mini finger hand and a mini mini finger hand. They were guests from Taylor. Yes. And I will tell you where they're at. At least one of them I know where it's at.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You want to know where it's at? No. The local dump. Questionable. It's in the shower. Wait a second. I thought it would go in there. The mini mini one, right?
Starting point is 00:42:29 No, the mini one is in the shower. The mini-mini one is lost. Does it help you scratch your back or something? I don't understand. You know, my boys, they shower in our shower because it's just easier. And so they take things in there and sometimes they get left in there and that's one of them. There's like two monster trucks in there. No.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And the menu finger hand. Sounds like. Who's left your switch in here? Kids. All right. We have all definitions for round three. Carol, correct again. Three points.
Starting point is 00:42:59 We'll be sitting this round out. That's two rounds in a row. From the noob to the master, perhaps. We will see if this continues. Sounds like it. Here we have five definitions of the word bunyip. Number one, a mythical creature from Australian mythology said to lurk in swamps and rivers.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Number two, the evolved ancestor of a bunny, which is the affectionate and informal name of a rabbit. Number three, a rocky enclave of a brook. Number four, a misshapen egg or an egg that looks atypical and number five contractions of the cord diaphragm and hairs similar to hiccups in humans so there's five definitions of the word bunyip lots of rabbit connections there and many of them we will start with matt bunyip bunyip well i was trying to read carol i knew that carol knew the answer metagame yeah and got nothing couldn't tell you from any of them okay that's what they train you to do clinical psychology that's what they want me to think. I was doing the same thing. She just looked like a stone-faced Tamagotchi.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Yeah. Nothing to read. The J stands for mystery. Dude, you have the same middle name as Sarah J. Moss. Did you realize that? I do now. What does the J stand for in Syrah J Maas? J, dude.
Starting point is 00:44:26 It's a J. It's a programming language. Oh, yeah. Matt, what are you thinking over there? I'm going to go for the mythological one. The mythological one. Hey, last time I did this being silly, and they cut it out thinking I was deliberately, like, accidentally.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I was going like, And the editor's like, Oh, we'll cut that out because he's obviously made a little mistake but it was hilarious well we can't tell what you're being real or not real with your mistakes i mean imagine you couldn't pronounce a word and then we left it in the embarrassment that's what you do anyway i'm british true moving to taylor which of these definitions do you think is bunyip i think it was the the mythological one brook river river brook a rocky enclave of a brook that sounds can't get anything from stonewall carol over there yeah stone face carol what were the other ones give me give me the one word reviews all right So number two was the evolved ancestor of a bunny. Number four was a misshapen egg.
Starting point is 00:45:28 And number five was the contractions of the core diaphragm in hares, in bunnies, in rabbits, a hare, like H-A-R-E. Because a hare doesn't have a diaphragm. H-A-I-R. Just closing that loop. What are you thinking, Taylor? Clarifying. I don't know much about her. I am thinking,
Starting point is 00:45:48 you know, my, my, my heart, my, my heart is telling me, tell us about your heart eggs, dude.
Starting point is 00:45:53 We got, we got to go. Hey, dude. So far from Taylor, we have Shakespeare, bruh. And eggs, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I'm liking these answers. All right. I'm going to shape an egg. All right. Taylor is on eggs. where are you gonna land i'm following matt because he's got the second most points and he wrote the song you think taylor and thomas are bad i just feel like these are our former champs and they're thomas hasn't gone have you you haven't gone yet have you thomas no he hasn't okay i thought that was the case in general, I said you're following the leaders. Yeah, I'm following wisdom here.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Wisdom. The aluminium wisdom. So whatever he chose. I don't even know which one he chose. He chose the mythological creature. Australian myth. Sounds Australian. One more and it's a pile on.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Well, there's only one more left. It's Thomas. Are you going to pile on? It's a pile on. Is it a pile on? It's a pile on. Well, there's only one more left. It's Thomas. Are you going to pile on? It's a pile on. Is it a pile on? It's a pile on. I'm feeling it. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Now, should we play the pile on jingle or should we have Matt write a new one real quick? Write a new one. How about we have the live version? Give us the live version. We already got the recording. Matt, how about a pile on jingle? Can you give us that?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Even better. Did you bring your guitar? I've got my guitar here. This one's real. Pylon song part three. That one's a Zoom background. Maybe put a little bit of some hair in it. A.K.A.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Bunny rabbit. Yeah. Yep. Give it a little bunny flavor. Any other requests? Eggs. Make it fluffy. Yeah, with some eggs.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Can you do Australian accent? Because we have. Yeah. Australian hops get bunny fluff. If you can have the letter J in there. Yeah, an Australian accent. We don't want to put too many constraints on you. Oh, no, please.
Starting point is 00:47:31 What constraints? Do it in an Australian accent. Make it about eggs and hair. It's pretty straightforward. A little hoppy tune, by the way. Australians say hair. We're about to find out, mate. You're saying hair, I'm saying eggs.
Starting point is 00:47:55 I wish we were saying the same things again, but I don't know, mate. I guess it's not to be. Oh, wait a minute. You're changing your answer to be the same. We gotta pile on mate. We gotta pile on mate. We gotta pile on mate. We gotta pile on mate. We gotta pile on mate. Pylon mates, we've got a pylon mates, we've got a pylon mates. And I've got a fanny pack of babies.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That was really good. That was very good. Thank you very much. Now, Matt, now that Oasis is getting back together, are you going to join them? Yeah, we're trying to get the support act, but so far they've not replied. Did you see his face? He was very excited about Oasis getting back together. He was.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He was excited. Oh, gosh. It's a wonder wall. All right, let's go to our results of the pile on. We had three out of the four. Guessing the mythical creature from Australian mythology. Carol, is that right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:06 That's right. Carol knew that that was a bunyip. It's said to lurk in swamps and rivers. And so Matt, Adam, and Thomas each score two points. Taylor voted for the misshapen egg, dude. And that egg was Matt's egg, dude. So Matt gets a bonus point for tricking Taylor into selecting his definition. That's three for Matt.
Starting point is 00:49:33 That's three for Carol. I hope that's okay. Wait, it's not an egg? No. I just made that up. Shoot. Just made that up. Now, Carol couldn't remember what the monster looks like,
Starting point is 00:49:44 so maybe it is an egg-shaped monster. I don't know. That's true. My definition said Australian folk monster, but I don't know what it looks like. It could look like an egg. And I've never seen one myself. Again, I have to ask, where have you encountered Bunyip?
Starting point is 00:49:58 There was a – okay, I read a lot as a kid, also as a child. All right. And there was a book of folk monsters around the world. You just remembered it from your childhood. Yeah. That's a deep recall. It's kind of like a fun one, you know? It's a fun name.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Bunyip. I thought it was a fun word. Yeah. Which is why I selected it. I mean, there's a reason why I don't remember what it looks like. I don't know. We all need to read more. This is like Slumdog Millionaire, where Carol's got these backstories.
Starting point is 00:50:24 I know. But you're going to ask like a techie question. I'm going to be like, I don't know. Yeah. Or clinical psychology. Word comes up. Well, we move now to round four. Of course, between Carol's correct answers and Matt tricking everybody, those two are
Starting point is 00:50:36 tied still at first place with eight. So she's not running away with it. It's a battle between good and evil. It is. It's a battle between knowledge and misinformation played out right here this is it and i'm on the wrong side i think that means you're gonna win damn i'm gonna say we always know which one wins in the end that's a british sad let's move to round four this round is called give it a goog give it a goog gosh this is a goog. Oh, gosh. This is an abnormal round.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Now, I went to google.com. Have you heard of it? And I opened it in an incognito window. And I began to type something, and I stopped. And Google dutifully recommended me some autocompletes. I took the top autocomplete, and I wrote it down. Your job in this round, give it a goog, is to write your own top autocomplete for this phrase. And we will select which one we think is the real autocomplete.
Starting point is 00:51:33 The phrase I typed in to google.com was, Why don't we? Why don't we? And then I stopped. And I wrote down that top autocomplete. Now, do not go out to Google and try this for yourself. That would be immoral. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe on the dark side for sure. But go ahead and tell me what you think is the top autocomplete. And we can see which one's correct i have mass now i'm wondering if like my thinking face is adequately joyful i think it was a little bit more demure there don't think about it too much i'm sure it's
Starting point is 00:52:18 fine all right still look low res to me have you had a tylenol i need a tylenol i was gonna take one before the show but but I... Get one. I'm in a neighbor's house. Oh, you might have missed it, but I'm in a neighbor's house because they're testing the fire alarms in my apartment today. Oh. They work. Wow. Unfortunately. Are they just going around setting fires? Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:38 They just set a little fire and see. No, they got a guy who's smoking. He just walks around smoking all day. He's cool. He looks cool, but all day. Oh, he's cool. He looks cool, but... He looks cool, but it's really not cool. Is it not?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Not in the... Yeah, set a good example. Yeah, it's a family show. Smoking kills. Especially if it's you that's on fire that's making the smoke. That's true. Yeah. That can be really dangerous, so do be careful if you're doing that.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Mm-hmm. I have carols. Goog. Thomas, I think I can detect your submissions in this game now because of the way you write it. So I think Thomas has a tell now. So I'd like to play an additional game where I... Does he look extra happy?
Starting point is 00:53:22 What is the tell? Yeah, what is the tell? It's in the definition itself. Yeah, say more. It just has a feeling. It just sounds like Thomas would say. It's a vibe. It's a vibe check. It's a vibe, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:36 She's using that phrase, Jared. Say more. I know, I use it a lot. Classic therapy technique. Looking at faces and saying say more. And how does identifying myel make you feel? It makes me feel pretty powerful, Thomas. Thank you for asking. Are you sure she's on the good side or the evil side?
Starting point is 00:53:56 She's on her own side. That was sinister. I liked it. Okay, we have them all. Why don't we give it a goog? Oh, we did. and we are playing around as a result where we tried to auto complete the phrase why don't we here are six possible top auto completes number one why don't we live on mars number two why don't we drugs legal number three why don't we drugs legal? Number three, why don't we print more money?
Starting point is 00:54:27 Number four, why don't we eat turkey eggs? Number five, why don't we destroy the moon once and for all? Sorry, number six. Just the way I said that was. Once and for all. Why don't we see dead people? That's number six. So we have six potential autocompletes.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Taylor, which one do you think is the real one? Eggs. How? You're very excited about eggs. Something's up with him and eggs. Yeah. Almost blew your mic out. Bunyip, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:00 All right. Taylor picks eggs. Bunyip emphatically. Adam picks. I can't choose. Somebody trying to blow up the moon once and for all once and for all that's the key piece here it's like we've tried yeah it's like we've tried and it keeps coming back and we're like moon not again we've tried everything at least once we're just tired of all the tides well actually once and for all kind of implies that we did do it once, but it came back.
Starting point is 00:55:27 You know? Yeah, that's a good point. It's like, well, we blew it up, but it wasn't once and for all. It was kind of like... Michael Collins knew the truth. Does that make any sense, though? Once and for all? Because that would imply you didn't do it before.
Starting point is 00:55:39 You've only done it once and for all. No, we want to do it once and for all. We did it, but it wasn't once and for all. It's twice then. He's got a point. I really wish we could do this once and for all. I think we should do it twice and for some. We'd have to be like, let's do it one more time and for all or something.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Once more. One last time and everybody can partake. But people aren't known for being accurate when they're Google searching. True. Jared, would you be opposed to reading them
Starting point is 00:56:05 all again these are quick i can read them all for you yeah please all right number one was why don't we live on mars number two why don't we drugs legal number three why don't we print more money number four why don't we eat turkey eggs number five why don't we destroy the moon once and for all number six why don't we see dead people? So many good choices here. Is that you, Thomas? Drugs legal? No. Is that subliminal messaging?
Starting point is 00:56:31 I think he was subliminal messaging. No, I was just looking at it. I was like, hmm. Taylor's pretty excited about the eggs, though. It's my vibe. You were wrong with the eggs before. He was way off. You might be good about eggs this time, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:56:42 No, I wasn't. I use that word every single day. And it's correct usage, dude. What, bunyip? Yeah. It's just a local usage of the word, yeah. Maybe it's like an actual product from where he's from. Every day?
Starting point is 00:56:54 Use it in a sentence then. Give it to me. Oh, oh, I cracked a bunyip. Sounds like something on your foot. Okay, fine. I won't follow you then you you make no sense let's go with money all right adam wants to go with money print mo money all right next up carol money dude i'm actually gonna go with eggs because i am kind of wondering why don't we eat turkey eggs so who says we don't i guess i don't so why don't we eat turkey eggs? Who says we don't? I guess I don't.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So why don't we commonly, maybe more accurately, why don't we commonly eat turkey eggs? All right, Carol goes for eggs. We are one away from a pile. We do eat turkey, though. We do eat turkey, Adam. Haven't they given us enough? I feel like turkeys are not like chickens. They don't do the whole, whatever the process is to produce an you know an uh an egg that is a yolk maybe not a turkey in the ovulation is that what happens
Starting point is 00:57:51 oh is it are you trying to say that chickens don't lay eggs no he's saying turkeys don't lay eggs i think well oh okay okay no i think they do i just wonder if like chickens. I'm pretty sure turkeys lay eggs. Chickens lay eggs that don't have chickens in them. Mm-hmm. Yes. Okay. And so we eat the ones that don't have chickens. They're just the yolk. It's a pre-menopause or something.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I don't know. I'm just trying to figure out a word. Pre-menopause. All right. You're done. Chicken menstruation. Correct. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:58:22 It's something like that, right? Evolution. Yeah, pre-menopause chickens and so are you saying like turkeys are born like in menopause or i know i'm thinking that maybe just turkeys don't do what chickens do all right let's not answer the question let's every egg is a winner okay let's answer this question which goog is it somebody fact check adam always answering because he just spat some real interesting science. It's Adam's turn still.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Oh, I guess. Oh, no, you picked. I'm sorry. You picked print more money. Yeah. My bad. You were just talking. It's actually your turn, Carol.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I already chose one. I chose the turkey egg thing because I was like. Well, then what's going on with me? I don't know. It's probably Thomas or Matt's turn. It's Thomas. It is my turn. Live on Mars. Was it live on Mars?
Starting point is 00:59:04 What was the phrasing there? Yeah. Live on Mars. Was it live on Mars? What was the phrasing there? Yeah. Live on Mars. Why don't we live on Mars? Right. I just feel like people would be Googling that. Why don't we live on Mars? Yet?
Starting point is 00:59:15 Drugs legal? Kind of the mess up of the, I don't know, print more money. I mean, I feel like people do ask that all the time. Every day. Print money or drugs legal? Drugs legal and print money, that'd be great. Just, you know, they go well together. They do go hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. I think I'm going to ask, why don't we live on Mars? Why don't we live on Mars? It's there. It's not that far. Let's get over there. The moon's closer. I'm pretty sure they don't have oxygen.
Starting point is 00:59:44 But we want to get rid of the moon once and for all well that's because it's in the way once you get rid of the moon it's a straight shot to Mars I think David Bowie he lived some life on Mars didn't he Matt it's your turn what are you thinking hang on a minute
Starting point is 01:00:01 you did it in incognito mode correct and this is so that your previous search history didn't influence it Okay, right. Hang on a minute. So you did it in incognito mode. Correct. And this is so that your previous search history didn't influence it. It's not influenced by my personal interests. But they do it on IP still. So what sort of, tell me about the area you live in. Where do you live, Jared?
Starting point is 01:00:17 What street? Lots of anti-moon sentiment in this area. Oh, yeah. People do a lot of drugs and then print money and then go to the moon and blow it up, then live on Mars and eat their turkey eggs, obviously. I mean, the moon might be the one place that's more barren than Nebraska. Ooh. Ouch, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Come on, we got fertile cropland here. It's called the fertile plain for a reason, Thomas. Fertile, yeah. They can grow whatever the hell they want. Taylor's the one who'll starve in Palm Springs. More drugs. Drugs legal. I don't know if it would make
Starting point is 01:00:51 that mistake. Why would it say, why would it not be correct English? I don't understand why they autocomplete. That's fine English. It's just American English. And it's also a Nebraska thing. It's Nebraska American English. I like the why don't we see dead people but it is the obvious answer is they're terrible on dates but i think i'm going for print more
Starting point is 01:01:11 money i think most people would just be like even if you like if you understand economics and the way and the and the tools that they have at that level you do talk about printing money but also if you're an absolute idiot, and I'm not saying you've got a lot of idiots in Nebraska. I don't know. But imagine there's an idiot walking down the street who just thinks money's just printed, and they've got a printer.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Why don't you just do more of it, and then everyone's got more money? Well, that's my submission. All right, print more money. Good one, good one. We'll go with that one. My particular answer to that is, aren't they already doing that? Aren right, print more money. Good one, good one. We'll go with that one. My particular answer to that is, aren't they already doing that? Aren't we printing more money?
Starting point is 01:01:49 It seems like we are printing more money. You can't be reply guys to Google autocomplete. I'm replying to your thought process. Go ahead, Taylor. Dude, there's only so much paper. That's the problem. What we need is more trees. That's true.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Trees. Yeah. That's why they're cutting down the trees guys yeah I mean that's why the save the rainforest people we have to ignore them because we have to cut down more trees if we want to print more money that's why they have so much money yeah we've resorted to selling our printers that print the money we're actually making more money that way now alright let's find out our results here
Starting point is 01:02:23 print more money we'll start right there because that's where everybody wants to our results here. Print more money. We'll start right there because that's where everybody wants to be. Adam and Matt, print more money. Why don't we? Well, Thomas, why don't we print more money? You were wondering that when you wrote that, weren't you? That's Thomas's. Two points to Thomas.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Thomas said, why don't we live on Mars? He wants to know. The people demand an answer. And that was Matt's question as well. So one point for Matt. Trade you. Touche. Meanwhile, nobody picked destroy the moon once and for all. Much to Taylor's chagrin.
Starting point is 01:02:54 And nobody picked see dead people. Much to Adam's chagrin. Nobody picked why don't we drugs legal because Carol typed it wrong or something. I feel like people can't type right on Google. Okay. I was just speaking to the people.
Starting point is 01:03:08 Okay. Come on. I wasn't sure if that was a typo or not. I was going to help you correct it, but that was very good. That leaves us with the one real question that demands an answer. Why don't we eat turkey eggs? Is the answer because of Matt or Adam's strange conspiracy theory about turkey fertility?
Starting point is 01:03:26 I don't know. Adam, did you look it up while you were sitting there? I just hypothesized that they fertilize less, but it turns out they just lay less. Lay less eggs. Yeah. I was thinking, I use menopause. I couldn't think of the word fertilization. I'm sorry, everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Is that why we don't eat hummingbird eggs? Well, I think they're more like caviar, wasn't it? I mean, they're tiny. Yeah, but what if they lay like a ton of them? This could be an untapped natural resource. Well, they're a lot harder to catch than chickens. You just have a fist of them after the gym. I guess turkey eggs are kind of expensive.
Starting point is 01:03:57 It's like $3 an egg. How much are hummingbird eggs? I don't know. Why don't you look it up? Why don't you Google it? Dude. Yeah. It's probably like rice where you just get it by the bush.
Starting point is 01:04:10 So Carol gets it right. Two points for Carol. And Taylor gets it right. Two points for Taylor. Now, there were a few other contenders I thought it would be fun to read. Not number one. Of course, number one was why don't we eat turkey eggs? Number two, why don't we go back to the moon?
Starting point is 01:04:25 So opposite of destroying it. Number three, why don't we fly over Antarctica? Good question. Number four, why don't we eat roosters? Maybe this is Nebraska. We're never going to get asked that in the UK. You've never even heard of a rooster. Number five, why don't we talk about Bruno?
Starting point is 01:04:45 Good question. Why don't we talk about Bruno? That's probably universal. Number six, why don't we eat carnivores? I feel like it's not even true. It's not even true. Yeah, but no one's going to search in the UK, why don't we eat turkey eggs?
Starting point is 01:05:00 No one would search that, I promise. Because you guys don't have turkeys? Yeah, we don't really eat much turkey. Right. Only at Christmas. I've heard that there's a difference of eggs in the uk versus the us and like you can just eat raw eggs in the uk and you can't in the us i'm not sure i heard that is that true matt you well you you don't eat raw eggs oh salmonella we've been told that salmonella points yeah yeah where's that do you guys have that over there too it's suspicious we've been told about the salmonella but i've seen told that salmonella poisons. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys have that over there too? It's suspicious.
Starting point is 01:05:27 We've been told about the salmonella. But I've seen Rocky and he drinks a bunch of eggs and he's fine. Yeah, people do it, don't they, in the gym? I don't know if it's hummingbird. Do they just do that? Drink hummingbird juice? I think hummingbird eggs are too small, Taylor. There's not enough in there. There's a sparrow that has really soft feathers on its chin.
Starting point is 01:05:42 And there was some old emperor somewhere had a whole bed made from the softest possible sparrow chin feathers and i really want one of them now i learned since i learned about it believe it or not we're only through four rounds yeah and i want to own a very cold sparrow cold sparrow carols in striking's in striking distance. I'm not even engaging in the conversation. We are only through four rounds, and we're talking about bird eggs and cold sparrows. We should move on to round five. After four rounds, Carol,
Starting point is 01:06:15 almost in striking distance of a win here with 10 points. Matt in second with nine. Adam in third with five. Thomas fourth with four. and Taylor with three. Now, you guys have been using the spread quite well, and I have zero points because every round, you have landed somebody at least on the answer. Okay, we're here in the breaks.
Starting point is 01:06:42 I'm here with Faraz Aboukdij, founder and CEO of Socket.dev. Socket is a developer-first security platform that protects your code from both vulnerable and malicious dependencies. Firas, the status quo of security tools for developers seems to be broken. It seems to be just riddled with tools that may not actually help developers to be more secure and to shift left. What are your thoughts? I totally agree that current security tools are super broken. There's really two ways that they're broken. The first, they send too many alerts. The second, they send not enough alerts. What I mean by that is they send too many alerts. They send false positives. They send, they inflate the severity. They say that it's a critical
Starting point is 01:07:24 security issue when it's actually a low security issue. They tell you about vulnerabilities and developer dependencies that are never going to run in production. So there's all these reasons why they're just wasting your time with this noise. And on the other hand, they're not alerting you about things that actually matter. So if you look at like the news and you look at kind of the attacks that are affecting companies and that are affecting developers today, there are things like malicious dependencies, typosquat attacks, hijacked dependencies, risky dependencies that have like hidden behavior in them that will open up pop-ups to random sites or steal certain data from your system. Things that you do see in the news quite frequently, right? And we see them literally, we see a hundred attacks per week at Socket that
Starting point is 01:08:01 we're detecting right now that are an NPM, PyPy, Maven, and the Go ecosystems, which are the four we support today. The current tools, they send you too many alerts, all this low importance stuff, but then they don't even alert you about all the attacks that actually matter. And so that's what we're doing at Socket. We're sending you the right alerts, the alerts that actually matter. So you get, when you are alerted, you actually believe it and you take it seriously because it's real. know that's what we're trying to do and that's what i think we're doing really well that's why we have over 6 000 organizations that have added socket into their github it's a two-click installation it's literally super easy you go to the get a
Starting point is 01:08:35 marketplace you search socket you click install and you click all repos boom your entire company is protected and it doesn't block developers it doesn't prevent you from shipping code initially it's all just kind of in a worn mode so it's really easy to get started no source code access we don't read your source we just need a list of dependencies that you're using so it's a really light and easy installation very very developer friendly tool okay they've made it too easy to install the github app go to socket dot dev there's a button right there on the home page install github app or if you want to go deeper and see behind the scenes and get questions easy to install the GitHub app. Go to socket.dev. There's a button right there on the homepage, install GitHub app, or if you want to go deeper and see behind the scenes and get questions answered, you can book a demo. But the first step is to go to socket.dev, learn about Socket for GitHub, Socket CLI, and the Socket dependency search. Find any package for your project and see its security concerns or lack thereof. Once again, socket.dev. That's S-O-C-K-E-T.dev.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Round five is one of our newer style rounds. This is called namespace conflict. In this round, I have gone out to the hub of gits and I have found a repository. I will tell you the name of that GitHub repository and you will write the tagline slash description. You know, whatever people would put in that tagline field on GitHub to describe their repository. And we'll see who can trick everybody into thinking theirs is the real repo tagline. Sound good? Sounds very good, actually. I would say out of all the rounds, this one sounds the best. Thank you. I work very hard on these for your pleasure. that you will describe or tag is called fire crawl fire crawl f-i-r-e-c-r-a-w-l all one word fire crawl please write a tagline and submit to me now
Starting point is 01:10:34 did you read about fire crawl repo when you're a kid car? It was actually in this children's book. Yeah, I thought it might be. That's how they make the babies really tough is that you know you teach them to crawl over the fire. They're not that tough if they end up in a fanny pack. That's small so small versus tough. Those are different words. Just to be clear they weren't actual babies that I had. Oh, really? Oh, right. What, like plastic or something?
Starting point is 01:11:09 Yeah, they're plastic. Oh. You buy them in bulk. Where do you get those? Bulk, he said. That's where you buy them. Babies.com? No, no, bookstore.
Starting point is 01:11:20 I get it from the bookstore. The bookstore? Amazon. Oh, yeah. Do they do books now? Does Amazon sell books now? I don't know. Ask Carol it from the bookstore. The bookstore? Amazon. Oh, yeah. Do they do books now? Does Amazon sell books now? I don't know. Ask Carol. She reads books. I go to the bookstore and I get books. Taylor gets babies. It's fine, okay?
Starting point is 01:11:31 Yeah. Hey, guys. You got any babies? To be clear, they're not real babies. Yeah, right. Not real babies. Let's not keep acting like they are. Most of us already knew that, Jared. They weren't already babies they weren't real babies plastic imagine if that makes it into the podcast oh we're gonna cut a lot of
Starting point is 01:11:53 this one taylor have you ever tried to use the plastic babies as currency like get a cup of coffee like how many babies do i owe you the hardest part about this show is the the running jokes when they run out of a when they run out of a cuttable segment we can't cut the segment anymore so like you know what i'm saying so like this part might suck but we brought up dead babies well no one said dead babies jared jared jared someone did say dead babies no there was not real babies and there was plastic babies dead Somebody said dead babies. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:12:26 I believe it was Matt. In my imagination, they were only suffering. I now have all five submissions. Let's play a game of namespace conflict. There is a repo on GitHub called Firecrawl. Here are six potential taglines for fire crawl number one crawling through firewalls since 2001 number two a full text search capabilities for build for firebase number three the missing search solution for firebase number four turn entire websites into
Starting point is 01:13:01 llm ready markdown or structured data scrape Scrape, crawl, and extract with a single API. Number five, Firefox extension for crawling URLs. And number six, monitoring for Firebase websites. Gosh. There you have six potential taglines. We'll start with Carol. I'm going to go with the LLM one. It's like a really long one, you know?
Starting point is 01:13:25 We move to Matt. I'm going to go for a crawling URLs extension in Firefox. Please. And I'll lock that in now. I'd like to lock in that answer. Do we do lock-in answers? Do we have to lock-in answers? Are we good?
Starting point is 01:13:40 Matt is locked in on the Firefox extension. There have been changes before, so locking in is actually appreciated. Okay, can I change it thereafter if I've locked in? No, you've locked in. Move on. Jared here in the editing room. At this moment, Taylor's power cut out and he dropped offline. Thankfully, he scrambled and got reconnected using his phone, so we just skipped him and went on to Thomas.
Starting point is 01:14:03 Taylor does make it back before the end of the round, but he missed some guesses, which explains why he just blindly picks the second one. Okay, hope that helps. Okay, we move to Thomas. Yes. I believe that this is a
Starting point is 01:14:21 monitoring solution for Firebase. I like that idea. All right. Well, I haven't looked it in yet. Why would you need to monitor Firebase if it's run by Google? Because maybe they stopped running it? They might just stop running it.
Starting point is 01:14:41 It's just to check to see whether or not they're still running it. I mean, if you really trust them. Like, is it down? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll stick with it. I'll stick with it. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 Monitoring for Firebase websites goes to Thomas. I mean, go to Adam. It's not the Vim but better one. Vim but better?. Them but better? Them but better. It was the number one them but better. No. No. That was my other option, I guess.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Firewalls. You were going to write that, maybe. I was going to write that. Firewalls was number one. Firewalls. Getting through firewalls. Firewalls. What did Carol say?
Starting point is 01:15:19 Wherever Carol went, I'm going. I'm following you, Carol. She went with the LLM. I went with the long one. Why do you like that one? Because I was like, we're not. I'm following you, Carol. She went with the LLM. I went with the long one. Why do you like that one? Because I was like, we're not going to write three sentences, but I bet the real person wrote three sentences.
Starting point is 01:15:31 It was just like a long... It's good logic. It's not Vimba better. I'm going to go with Carol. Okay, Adam goes with Carol. We might need a new song that is not about piling on. It's about piggybacking. Taylor, it's your turn.
Starting point is 01:15:47 What are you thinking for Fire Crawl? The second one. Good choice. He's going to go with Vimba better. Number two, full-text search capabilities build for Firebase. Taylor goes with that one. All right. So we can start with
Starting point is 01:16:05 the Firefox extension. Matt thought maybe it was a Firefox extension for crawling URLs. That was Adam's tagline. One point for Adam. That's good. Nice one, Adam. Thomas wanted monitoring for Firebase websites, even though he knew there'd be no reason to have it if you have Google monitoring it.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But he picked it anyways, and that was Taylor. So one point for Taylor. And Taylor went for full text search for Firebase. That one was Matt's. One point for Matt. Matt, you and I had pretty similar submissions. I think we think more alike than you feel comfortable admitting and won't ever. He knows it's you because he like senses a piece of himself. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:16:47 Yeah. I mean, Carol said it, so it's got to be true. Yeah. She has a PhD. Meanwhile, Carol went for the long one, the LLM one. And Adam piggybacked, which is not exactly a pile on. It's more of a piggyback. I wish Magnet a song of its own.
Starting point is 01:17:04 But they are correct so that is the actual definition of the tagline for fire crawl it turns your entire website into llm ready markdown or structured data it's so freaking long carol gets two adam gets two plus the one he already got so he gets three for the round adam's in it to win it. Oof. How close am I to winning? After round five, you have eight. Matt has 10. Carol has 12. She's within striking distance. We're only halfway through the rounds. Meanwhile, Thomas and Taylor
Starting point is 01:17:33 tied in last with four. Oof. Can I tell you guys about a cocktail I used to make? What kind was it? Do we get a pick? It's two shots of Fireball and LaCroix. Pompamoose LaCroix. Did you call it a fire crawl?
Starting point is 01:17:50 You should. Something like that, yeah. Yeah, cool. Good name. Okay. Taylor's pining for bonus points, but he's not going to get a bonus point for that. We move now to round six. This is non-STEM, and it's also a bit nonsense.
Starting point is 01:18:03 This word is a tough one. Round six, your word is Cuomo Dockenkais. Oh gosh. Cuomo Dockenkais. That's one way to pronounce it. There are a few other pronunciations, but I won't try them. You gotta spell that one on the chat. This word is spelled Q-U-O-M-O-D-O-C-U-N-Q-U-I- q u i z e cuomo docking kais we'll find out if it's in an old book carol read when she was a kid right after this the children's book actually we got a real stumper here. Everybody's face is look forlorn. Yeah, the joy is gone from my thinking face.
Starting point is 01:18:50 Aww. No, you know, I'm still a pretty easygoing guy. Thomas, it's okay. You don't need to defend that. I'm sorry. No, no, it's okay. It's not a performance. It is who I am.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Because he's tied for last. Yeah, because I'm tied for last. I used to be a champion. he used to be a contender i could have been a contender there's a new doctor in town she's gone beyond the masters and she's going all the way to doctor that would be a good title for this one the doctor is in you know yeah she has one up to me because i only have the masters she has the that's true that's kind of why we invited her you're sick of your pomp and circumstance what
Starting point is 01:19:30 are you gonna do next what's beyond doctor two doctors president president president of god president elect geez man cuomo duck and kais now that might be not how you say it i don't know it was really hard to get consensus on pronunciation yeah because no one no one you no one needs this word all right well we'll find out what it means you need it right now in order to win this game to be fair i've i haven't used yeah i've used it quite a lot so far today actually now you mention it be careful we'll make you sing a song about it we none of us want that to happen i can't even pronounce it. Carol is within striking distance. She only needs three points to win. I have Taylor's and Carol's and Thomas's. Did Carol get it right?
Starting point is 01:20:15 I haven't read hers yet. If I did, it was by accident. Somehow. Accidentally used my master's degree today just by accident I was right again can't even get it wrong you try to get it wrong you try but sometimes you just squirm
Starting point is 01:20:35 docking ties pulled a carol today got it right carol j always right j stands for right that's kind of like a trump sounding laugh i felt like i was channeling somebody there oh carol j it was yeah always right carol j people are saying everyone knows i wouldn't call her right Alright we have six definitions For Cuomo
Starting point is 01:21:07 Dakenkais And they're all over the board Which makes sense because You can't make much sense of this word If anybody got this right Not even Carol Number one A political theory of history
Starting point is 01:21:21 Wherein technology leads to changes In the status quo. Number two, to make money by any means possible. Number three, the moon's last defense against humanity. That one. Number four, the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Number five, when thrust reaches its maximum output, producing the greatest possible force
Starting point is 01:21:49 to propel the vehicle. And number six, the process of documenting organizational procedures, quotas, and financial records for legal purposes. There you have six potential definitions for Cuomo-akenkais. We start with Carol. Can you repeat the first three?
Starting point is 01:22:11 First three? That was a lot of work, you know. I know, I'm sorry. It's okay. It's a long word. It's a long, you know, a lot of definitions. It is. There's a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:20 This is a lot. And there's a lot on the line here. I mean, you're trying to win this game right now. Okay. Yeah, I feel like people really got wordy here. All's a lot. This is a lot. And there's a lot on the line here. I mean, you're trying to win this game right now. Okay. Yeah. I feel like people really got wordy here. All right. Go.
Starting point is 01:22:29 All right. Number one was the political theory of history wherein technology leads to changes in the status quo. Number two was to make money by any means possible. And number three was the moon's last defense against humanity. Tito wants me to choose three, so I'm just going to skip that one. Do you want to hear the other three? I do. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:53 Number four, the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Number five, when thrust reaches its maximum output, producing the greatest possible force to propel the vehicle. And number six, the process of documenting organizational procedures, quotas, and financial records for legal purposes.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Womo, docking guys. Saying the word again doesn't help. I know. That's all I can do. I'm debating between two and five. What's your thought process looking like? I don't even remember what I honestly don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:30 I can't even remember what two was and what five was. Well, two was the make money one and five was the thrust one. I feel like it's not. I'm going to go with two. I don't know. I don't like that. Oh, I don't know. We'll just go with it. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:23:44 I know it's not one. It can't be one okay it's two i'm gonna say two we'll lock it in we'll lock it in she's locking it bleep it go she's saying bleep it and she's going with two okay we're moving out of thomas okay i feel like this is it's not a stem thing so i actually think it's the documenting for that validation yeah yeah no i think it's the documenting. Thank you for that validation. Yeah, yeah. No. I think it's documenting the process of an organization. That sounds right to me. All right.
Starting point is 01:24:14 That's number six. Locked it in. We're going to Matt. Now, Matt, can you tell which one was mine? Because you said you could by vibes alone. Well, I won't reveal it now. Yeah, but yes. You think you know? You think you know? Yeah, yeah won't reveal it now, but yes. You think you know.
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a tough one. Some of them are STEM, and he did say it wasn't a STEM one. It's more like not STEM. I don't buy the, I don't think I buy that. I think that legal one is, I was thinking of coming up with some lie like that so that's probably the one i think is did you just go for that one thomas
Starting point is 01:24:52 yes i did he did oh and he locked it in so you can't convince him otherwise no well he wouldn't want to if he doesn't think it's the right answer the moon one's obviously absolutely ridiculous that person should probably be ashamed of themselves. Or extremely proud. Well, I think, yeah. I think we're leaning more towards the pride side of that. This person's really proud. Can I just pass? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:14 Can you pass? You can't get any points. Yeah. I mean, you just don't get any points. Oh. I might as well pick one. I prefer you just pick one. Yeah, you might as well just pick one.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Come on, man. Play the game. You've nothing to lose. I'll go for the money one, then. I'll go for the money one. The money one? Random. I'll go for the money, I guess. We don't have anything else to do.
Starting point is 01:25:31 Okay, Taylor. Moving thing. The moving vehicle. Moving the movable object? Moving object, yeah. Process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Or the possible force to propel the vehicle. It's the movie. No, that one's fake, dude.
Starting point is 01:25:48 No, that one's fake. I feel like those two are Thomas and Matt. Now we go to Adam. Last one, Adam. My choice is not my choice. My choice is Carol's choice. You're just a piggybacker. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:01 You guys are going to feel really sad when I got it wrong. Well, it's, you know, there's only two non-STEM ones there, right? And it was not STEM, so. But there's three non-STEM ones. If I have to choose a route of limited abilities and choices, I'm going to go with the one that has 12 points. That Carol picked. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Okay. Well, I think piggybacking is a good way to finish second or third you know but it's never a good way to beat somebody yeah because you're always going to just be where you are
Starting point is 01:26:29 plus their points that's right anyways at least I'm coming up it's a strat it's just not a good one okay but
Starting point is 01:26:37 it was a good one this round because that is absolutely the right definition it is to make money by any means possible oh I fluked it too I knew it wasn't the sixth one because that was mine. Ah, that was really good.
Starting point is 01:26:49 That's why I was like, well, I know it's not that one. So I don't know. Why have we not heard that word before? That seems like a word. Because it's a stupid word. Cuomo d'Aquincise. Now, this is a Latin word from the 1600s. It's absolutely dead.
Starting point is 01:27:04 No one uses it anymore. No. But that's what it used to mean. It's because you're mispronouncing it. Well, that's entirely possible. How do you pronounce it? Well, back in those days, money was called keys or quies. And it's actually Cuomo d'Aquincise.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Oh, that changes everything. It's to acquire all the quies. I just made that up. Yeah, he did. He totally made that up. Yeah, man. I've Oh, that changes everything. It's to acquire all the quiz. I just made that up. Yeah, he did. He totally made that up. Yeah, man. I've already put that in my long-term memory. Yeah, that's in there.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Doctrine of brain science. BS. You need to purge that. Into garbage collector. So that means that Adam scores two. Matt scores two. Carol scores two. But then she also just confessed that hers was number six, which Thomas selected, so
Starting point is 01:27:45 she scores three. And Taylor picked Matt's, and that scores three, because the movable object was Matt's. So both Matt and Carol score three. So after six rounds of play, Matt has 13 points, which is right on the
Starting point is 01:28:01 doorstep of our winner, Carol, who has 15 points from noob to master. Congratulations. Moral of the story is, remember the books you read as children, kids. Yes. I gotta go back to childhood and read more. Or time travel back to childhood and read more.
Starting point is 01:28:18 Yeah. Go to the store and buy books, not babies. I'm gonna buy loads of kid books just to catch up. I feel like I'm behind. You can read them really fast. Yeah, that's true. to the store and buy books not babies i'm gonna buy loads of kid books just to catch up i feel like i'm behind you can read them really fast yeah that's true although i'd struggle some of the long they're pretty easy to read yeah four more docking guys like yeah yeah all right well congratulations to our winner and i think she got round one correct round two pre-correct round three pre-correct round four correct round five correct round six
Starting point is 01:28:48 she didn't miss a single one I'm beginning to think there's value to education here logic you've utterly dominated wait how close am I to winning Taylor you have four points so close I could still come back right yeah well if there's more game to play perhaps
Starting point is 01:29:04 next time next time we'll just not invite carol back so that other people have a chance oh that's what i said about thomas last time yeah and you said that about taylor too yeah that's what you said but now we need to bring somebody in who could beat carol and apparently there's like levels of skill at this and we just found someone at a whole new level. Wasn't I the one that invited Carol? Dude. That was a mistake. What were you thinking? She didn't seem smart when I was talking to her. I know.
Starting point is 01:29:31 It's all an act. Sorry. I don't know. You proved it out here today. Now we do have a couple more. Does anybody got ahead? We got a couple more rounds that I prepared. Maybe we can play them for the bonus people or does anybody want to do it? They want to bonus it out. Yeah. I don't go on call for another prepared. Maybe we can play them for the bonus people or does anybody want to do it? They want to bonus it out. Yeah. I don't go on call for another hour. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Maybe an extended winner maybe, you know? Is it possible to go beyond and beat Carol? Play to 20? Sudden death. Play to 20. Yeah. We're going to nullify her victory and see if anybody can beat her to 20. Rude. No, let's just wipe the slate clean. Carol won the game.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Now we're all back at zero. And we will just play a few more rounds and see what happens. Because I put a lot of work into this round seven. Is this for changelog plus people? Yeah, take your clothes off. Oh my gosh. It's the wrong kind of plus.
Starting point is 01:30:20 I was trying to help him plug. This is not any changelog. This is changelog plus plus. This is not an empty changelog. This is changelog plus plus. Should we plus plus this? Oh, yeah. Milk him. Get the money.
Starting point is 01:30:31 Milk him. Yeah. Plus plus it. Okay. For you regular listeners, the show is over. Yeah. We hope you enjoyed Pound to Find. Carol wins.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Sucks. Matt only sang one song, but we've got to get him to sing some more during the plus plus portion. If you're not a plus plus member, well, let's fix that bug. Go to changel.com slash plus plus. Sign up. Make your own feed. No ads.
Starting point is 01:30:56 Matt Reier singing more songs. Hello. Taylor making a comeback and winning. I don't actually know what's going to happen, but it's going to be good. So there you go. Taylor, you didn't have to take your shirt off. Put it back on. Dude, I didn't have to take your shirt off. Put it back on.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Dude, I thought he said ads. Ads. Abs. Abs. I said no ads. Abs. Abs. I was referring to your abs. Oh, abs.
Starting point is 01:31:14 I heard abs. I'm sorry. Yeah. Same thing for me because I'm ripped. I sell ad space on my abs. So get in touch if you want. Six little abs. That's actually not a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:31:24 Six little abs. It's kind of like the million dollar website, know like there's a little bit each pixel each one of your little abs could be a dollar i loved that when i was a kid buy an ab bucks buy one of matt ryer's abs yep you can just sponsor it you're not buying it you don't get it no yeah sponsoring it you're not getting it you can't have it i checked we can't do that well if you're an organ donor i don't think they take abs i don't think that's what the card means hey i mean some of us would be amazing some of us could use a little help you know get on the list got an ab transplant don't worry about it yeah this guy's died in a horrific accident, but he's got great abs and a good back. Quick, get his strong back.
Starting point is 01:32:08 Get his strong back. Just a rich 90-year-old. He's got an amazing back now. Okay, let's wrap this so we can start the next round. Bye, friends. Yes. Goodbye, friends. Goodbye.
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Starting point is 01:33:59 Leave us a five-star review if you want some stickers. And let's talk again real soon. I'm going back. I'm climbing on your back. I'm gonna choose that. It's a piggyback What's your I-D-E? I'm gonna choose that too What sandwich you having for lunch, baby?
Starting point is 01:34:40 I don't know, I just wanna know I'm not gonna copy it What kinda? Game on Lunch, baby. I don't know. I just want to know. I'm not going to copy it. What kind of? It's better.

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