The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source - #define: sheer resistance (Friends)

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

On this seventh iteration of our award-worthy game show filled with obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery: past winners battle to determine the champion of champions. (Also, Adam.)

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We are joined by our champions. This is going to be a, I was going to say a Duke Nukem because that's on my mind, but what's the name of that game where they all punch each other? Oh, a rock'em-sockham robots of pound-of-fine because everybody here, except for Adam and myself, have actually won the game. We try to get all of our pound-of-fine champs, but of course, scheduling is hard. And so Losh and Carol couldn't make it,

but we are joined today by our previous winners, starting with the person who won most reason. No, not first, because that was Losh, but first right after him, it's Taylor Troj. First or after him, second. Second. Second. Second.

Yeah, you're right. Second would work there. I lost in the first round. Yeah, how's it going? You did, but you came back and you were victorious after that. And then did you lose a carol after that? Did we boot you? I think I lost a carol and then you got tired of me.

Okay. So we're not tired of you. We're back. You're back. We've invited you back. And I'm sure you're going to give it a go. After Taylor is Thomas. Ooh, Jonathan Taylor Thomas.

We should get a Jonathan here. Oh, yeah. I have a JTT shout-out from the 90s. What's up, Thomas? How you doing, man? I'm doing well. It's good to catch up with everyone, and, yeah, happy to be back here. I think it's good for all of us that Carol did not join because she destroyed me last

time I played. That's right. So you are a, you're one for two in winning, which is slightly better than Taylor, but not quite as good as Matthew, who's one for one, aren't you, Matthew? Yeah, I was going to decline this to keep my record, but. I'm busy. Oh, yeah. I'm going to keep my belts, okay?

You can't keep the belt if you don't fight for the belt. You can't take away what I can't lose. That's right. Well, if you don't show up, then you actually lose by default. And so I'm glad that you're here to defend your title and to potentially take these guys as title. And lastly, is our most recent winner. It's David Aja. David, welcome back.

Glad to be back. What's up, David. You know, I'm chilling. I'm excited. I'm ready to earn the master's in BS. I feel like I got the BS and BS. Nice. Okay.

Always BSing. If you win a third time, we get you the Ph.D. The BS HD. That didn't make any sense. Adam, why are you here? No, just kidding. Solidarity, my friend. Solidarity.

You're here because it's changelog and friends with Aaron and Jared. And so, of course, you are here. I got to be. And should we reveal the secret from the changelog plus plus? segment last time around. Do you want to get your comeuppance? What was it? What am I revealing?

What did I miss? You won around. You won, remember? After we quit playing, we had a change log plus plus special. And I won that one. You beat David and everybody else. You got to win in post shows. You know, if I'm going to win, might as do it when no one's listening.

I would describe that win as a hallucination. Well, it's funny you say that because we are going to put a slight twist on this round in order to level the playing field. You know, Adam's a big fan of golf. In golf, there's handicaps, and there's also Mulligans. And since you all are previous winners, and Adam hasn't quite achieve that level yet, we're going to give him a slight handicap,

which is that during this game, he can pick one round. He does not have to disclose, but for one round, he can actually use an LLM to generate his answer. And, um, that's it. So he gets to let trick up his sleeve.

He can deploy it whenever he wants. He doesn't have to. And he does not have to disclose it. That way, maybe, who knows? Maybe you'll be the champion of champions. Should I not disclose it at all?

Or just not until I win the round? Well, that card is in, you know, your hand. You can play it until you win the round. Well,

if I'm leveraging an agent, there's no way I can lose. Yeah, you might still lose the round. Yeah. What are you talking about? It's not a guaranteed win. Oh,

it's going to, I mean, you see my agents? Why don't you have wins already? Well, because I don't use the agents there, buddy. That's fine. I'm using my own brain, which is stupid. I use their brain, which is very smart.

All the smarts there, all the stupid here. We have a no-google policy. We have a no-agent policy, of course. Don't look up the definitions because that wouldn't be very fun at all. The way this game works is that we have 10 rounds of play. We're playing to 12 points, which everyone comes first. and each round presents a word which is obscure hopefully hopefully nobody knows it maybe you know it that is in the world of stemmy things so it could be science medicine it could be math it could be

music it could be science fiction it could be computer science etc just in that wheelhouse of sciencey things and a definition of the obscure word now after I name the word everybody submits to me their definitions of what they think the word means or if they don't know what it means, they make one up in order to fool their enemies into selecting it. After the words are, the definitions are submitted, I will read them all, hopefully without laughing. And then you all go around and try to guess which one is the correct definition. Now, if you get the right definition initially right away, you get three points and you set the round out. If you have the wrong definition, but other people pick yours, you get one point for each person who picks your definition. And then at the end of the round, if you happened upon the correct definition during the selection process, you get two points. So three, two, and one. If nobody selects the correct definition in a round, I, your humble host, get four points. And the first one of 12 wins or the person with the most points after all 10 rounds, I doubt we're going to have to do

all 10 to get to 12 because David scored 12 in like 37 seconds last time. So any questions before we get in round one. No, it's got excited to get started. All right. Here we go. Your word for round one is. Iatrogenic. Iatrogenic. I-A-T-R-A-G-N-I-C. I-A-T-R-A-G-N-I-C. iatrogenic. Please submit to me your definitions for iatrogenic now. Is there a problem, Taylor? I know this one. I'm just trying to. It's so close. Now, Jared, have you considered using a text-to-speech solution for reading these definitions out loud to avoid the laughter problem, the meta-game? That's a really good idea. I just feel like I would be really bored.

Yeah. I'd feel value-free. You don't want AI taking your job. That's right. Fight for it. I'm going to keep fighting. All right, all definitions are in for iatrogenic, and I will say right up front that Taylor has the correct definition.

So three points for Taylor. And you can just relax, my friend. Good job. He did know it. He really knew it. So there are one, two, three, four, five possible definitions for iatrogenic. Number one, iatrogenic describes natural springs, which produce water with high concentrations of ionic water.

Number two, iatrogenic caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis. Number three, an object solely composed of distinct dissimilar parts. Number four, describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones. And number five, the process of swapping. out one gene pool for another. There you have it. Five potential definitions for iatrogenic. We start, since Taylor is resting, we start with Thomas. Yeah. So looking at this list, we have the water ones, natural springs with ionic water. Okay. So like genic, I think about iatrogenic, genic being like a to generate. I know that much.

caused inadvertently by a medical operation was number two a combination of distinct dissimilar parts cells in the endocrine system and then gene pool swapping well yeah thank you thank you because normally people like what's number three again okay uh what what really sticks out to me is the uh caused inadvertently so number two is what I'm going to go with. All right. Thomas goes with number two. How about Matthew? Because you said something.

I want you to repeat number three, actually. Okay. Number three is an object solely composed of distinct dissimilar parts, you jerk. True. Is that in the definition? I don't know. That was for him.

He's just trolling me. That was a troll. We all know what it was. The similar parts, water, water repeated water twice, actually. So that was interesting. The gene pool one. Number one. There was one that's not the gene pool,

not the water, not the similar parts. There were two other definitions that I can't remember. Oh, gosh. So number four was describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones. Okay. This not gene pool.

It's not. Not gene pool, not the similar, not water and not cells. There's that one other one. And not cells. This is like a test for me. There's that one right here. Gotcha.

in the process of swapping out one gene pool for another? No, we said that one. Okay. Caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis? Yeah, I'm like that one in. That's the one? Yep. So you're going to pile on.

Pile on. I admittedly, I didn't catch which one Thomas picked. So, yeah, it's a pile. So it's an accidental pile on fair. All right, we go to David. I'm going to construct an additional pylon. This guy doesn't just pile on. He constructs.

Ilons. All right. We got three people on number two. And we go to Adam. Who's the last one to actually guess? What's the second to last one, Jared? That would be the fourth. Yes.

Can you read that one, please? Describing cells in the endocrine system responsible for producing hormones. Yeah, that's the one. That's the one right there. Let's dial that one in. Yeah, lock it. Let's dial that one in.

Let's lock that one. No breakfast ball required. All right, Phyllis. All right. Well, after round one, of course, Taylor gets the default three. So, Taylor, what's the correct answer, Taylor? The correct answer is the medical one. And the only reason I know it is from a Nassim Taleb book.

I can't remember which one. But he loves that word. Really? Fooled by randomness. I don't remember. I haven't read one with those last 10 years or something. anti-fragile, is that him? That's definitely him.

That sounds like something that would happen in there because, like, maybe go in for an appointment and then you get misdiagnosed and then you're stronger afterwards. No, that doesn't make sense. I don't know. Yes, that is correct definition for iatrogenic. It's when something's caused inadvertently by medical treatment or diagnosis, Taylor's definition was has the opposite intended effect as in hospitals, killing healthy patients.

Very good. So Thomas, Matthew, and David each correctly got that. So they each get two points, Thomas, Matthew, and David. And then Adam, he did not pile on. He went for describing cells in the enderkin system responsible producing hormones. That was David's. So an additional point. Good job, David.

Good job, David. Come out the gate with 12 right away. He's coming out. He's on pace. He's on pace once again. And successful round one, we have Taylor and David with three, Thomas and Matthew with two and your humble hosts with zero. Moving to round two, in round two, your word is

heteroscadasticity. It's spelled H-E-T-E-R-O-S-C-E-D-A-S-T-I-C-I-T-Y. I'll put that in chat. Yeah, you need to put that in chat. I'll say it one more time. It's heteroscadasticity. There we go. heteroscadascadacity

That's tough Matthew was the Oxide T-shirt embroidered Yeah This one is Quality Quality from end to end

That's not iron on It's broider. Wow. I grabbed a couple t-shirts while I was there, and they were, I grabbed X-Ls, went back to the hotel, and like, ah, these are too big. I went and swapped them for larges. Got home, I'm like, ah, these are too small. I don't know what to do. I wear my workout.

It makes me look buff, you know. I love the zero-ax engineer one. So cool. Yeah, I want to go and it's over in the closet somewhere. Just me and Matthew had that problem with our arms. We just can't fit everything in, you know, our guns. The pipes. Can't you tell?

They're pretty much the same size. Have you considered working on anything other than the biceps? I considered it. He'll keep it under advisement. So Adam, when you do decide to deploy your LLM-based answer, which language model are you going to use? Oh, gosh. Great question.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. I just don't know. There's a Mac app. called like chorus that makes it easy for you to just fire the same question to a bunch of them at once. Oh really? Which when I have things where it's like I don't actually care which

model, I just want to try several at once. That's often kind of helpful. That's pretty much what I do manually. I just like copy paste it into like three different prompts. So that was really something I might give a shot. You know, I really like to go scorched earth and just, you know, maximize my compute on this particular literally scorched the earth how could I maximize my carbon footprint I was looking away was that you David was that your voice I heard saying that who was that that said this tool was it David

yeah chorus that was David yeah it's called chorus like like you're a chorus of people is that right a collection of people saying is that chorus.a.i I do not remember the domain I think if you just if you just ask all your LMs want to point in the right yeah I found a couple of choruses that are not that I'm trying to find that Chorus.S.H

Oh, they don't want you talking about it, chorus dot sh. That's not what that means, Jared. Corrist. And what does it mean, shell? Yeah, it's like a dot-sh file. Script. That's why they made the TLD

was for shell scripts? I don't know. That's how they're best being used. Well, sure. It's probably for Shazakistan. Yeah. Shazakistan. Or it could be Shazakistan.

I am because he's Shaq's favorite movie about himself he can afford TLD I think anybody can well whoever did this website for a course is just I like it

great job Adam if you're looking for advice on LLMs you should pick up a vintage go for like GPT 2.5 so it's a nice vintage

it's got a good good taste what year is that it's like a 2021 vintage You might be correct All right All right

I have five definitions for heteroscadasticity Or however you say it You're getting better at it though The practice is paying off I feel like it Good And by five I mean five not six

Because one of us got it 100% correct. And that person is Mr. David Aja. Three points to David. I have to try really hard not to help you with the pronunciation. Oh, and he knows how to pronounce it too? How am I doing? You got there. Eventually. I have this pronunciation guide. And as I try to read the actual like syllables, I can't, it's just a lot of syllables. I couldn't quite put them together. When you just look at the words, not so bad. Anyways, neither here nor there. Up first. this round, well, let me read them. Gosh, you guys just guess the numbers. Might as well. Okay, five definitions for heteroscadasticity. Shoot, I'm back. A material that has differing sheer resistance across its various dimensions. That's number one. Number two, when molecules have multiple stable configurations. Number three, the process of fine-tuning multidimensional

data structures into a single data store. Number four, a collection of disjoint operators which make up the order one manifold. And number five, a statistical property in which some subpopulations in a collection of random variables have different variabilities from others. There you go, five definitions, heteroscadasticity. Let's start with Thomas. So the first one we have is this material with different shear. Yes, sheer resistance across its various dimensions.

Across various dimensions, okay. So it makes sense that all of these do play into the prefix of the word, the hetero, right? Of mixing up different things together, right? Right, right. Number two, you have molecules with different, what were the? Multiple stable configurations, yeah. Multiple stable configurations. Okay.

Okay, that makes sense. For three, fine-tuning for multidimensional LLMs or AI models? Multidimensional data structures. Oh, data structures. I'm just- Process of fine-tuning multi-dimensional data structures into a single data store. You see, but I feel like this CITY at the end is not necessarily like a process.

So it's describing a. state of something it's a city yeah but it's a city not a state i beat you to that one taylor and then what was the collection the the operators yeah a collection of disjoint operators which make up the order one manifold what is the order one manifold? That's the question order dash one order minus one I don't know order one no I just haven't heard of that before it's interesting could be that one You know, I do think it's the statistical variability within multiple data sets that just kind of feels right to me. Hetero, you know, different, you know, mixing together

and then city describing the state. So I'll go with number five. All right, Thomas gets five. We go to Matthew. I'm also leaning five. I think that makes sense. I don't think the stable state one makes sense. I don't think the order one makes sense.

What else was there? Shear resistance was one. Fine tuning. Fine tuning of some data structure. And then what was that? What I'm missing? It was a material that having differing sheer resistances. Yeah.

So I have sheer data structure, order manifold. And stable configurations. That's it? And statistical property. Damn, I think I'm with you on this one, Thomas. Another pile on. I'm pile on. It worked out last time.

Please pile me on. Let's stack up around the normal distribution. This is a feel like a repeat. Okay, David's out. Adam. I'm going to pile on. I don't know what I'm paling on to, but whatever they shows, I'm choosing.

That's it. Blind faith. Adam gets it. He's just following along like a lemmy. I've learned. Okay. Yeah, well. Follow or lead.

If you can't lead, you follow. I'm following. Okay. All right. Fair. Taylor, are you leading? Are you following?

What are you doing? I'm leading. It's a warm mile, Taylor. My grandma, my grandma always used to say, Taylor, homoscadascadicity is a she resistance in a single direction. So it must be the opposite, you know? Like, this is a family secret, and I just realized that this must be the truth. Taylor, this was your grandmother who worked in the bomb factory, and she used to tell you

stories about her time in the bomb factory to put you to sleep and you can ask exactly that same grandma yeah yeah that same grandma he would snored just heteroscadacity when he goes to sleep

you almost can snore that that's what you always all right so you're going with the material how the differing sheer resistances because your grandma told you so yeah yeah okay just making sure all right so you

find ourselves in similar grounds as last round, except for David has the correct answer. And so, David, why don't you tell everybody what the right answer is? I drew a little diagram because I used to love trying to draw this when I wanted to be an economics professor. This is a homo-skidastic distribution, right, where the normals are basically kind of the same. And then this is a heteroscadastic distribution where the variance for one subgroup is smaller than the other.

But they're both in danger from that T-Rex. Yeah, the T-Rex is definitely after both distributions. So either way, you're going down. You're getting eaten no matter what. That's right. Was that a drawing of a metal pipe?

Because it's materials, right? Was my grandma lying to me? Is, your grandmother, I can't see the different shears. I can't see the, come on. That's not a very drawing of the sheer different shear resistance.

All right. So Taylor's grandma, I'll let him right into Matthew's lap. Matthew wrote that. one. So one point for Matthew. And the three of you all got it correct. The statistical property in which some subpopulations in a collection of random variables have different variabilities from the others. Of course, hetero, everybody knows what that means. The last part, the skedasticity, comes from the ancient Greek word skedonymy, which means to scatter. So there

you have it. Oh, it also comes from skedaddle. Yeah, which is when you got to run. Everyone's scatter. That's right. They actually, that's how they got there. They mispronounced. That's right.

And if you want everybody to run in different directions, you say let's hetero-skiddle. That's right. All day. Like cockroaches. Heteroskedal. Okay.

So three points for David. Matthew gets two plus one. He gets three. Thomas gets two. Adam gets two. Taylor locked out of this round. After two rounds, we have David in first with six.

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Achakatura. Ooh, I like that one. Yes, you heard that right. A chakatura. A, C-C-I-A-C-C-A-C-C-A-T-U-R-A. Please submit your definitions for Chakotura now. Do we know if you're pronouncing that correctly? That's the way the person on YouTube said it when I looked up how to pronounce that word. Now, they could have been wrong because I did not go for multiple sources. This is like a play on asa'i, that's what this is.

This is like just a little, yeah, just a few more letters on that one, right? Just a few. The double CCCs, that's a very rare thing. Isn't it? Very rare. And what's weird, the first CCs are. the chuh and the second season sees are like kha a chaka but there's no s it sounds so weird that now i'm going to go you guys keep typing i'm going to double check you yeah check maybe get a second

source maybe i'm saying it wrong no yeah i'm saying it right okay that's not pressure you thank you yeah i was questioning a lot of things in my life so i'm happily i'm back on firm ground here country of origin use it in a sentence uh yes the sentence is the word word for round three is a jack-and-cura. It's not my first pound to find, Thomas. I'd like to buy a vowel hint thing, whatever, and get Adam's... There's a lot of vowels in this word. I would like the L-LM from Adam to be used.

How do we do that? Here, I have dollar. How do I pay that? I have dollar? I have dollar. I think drives might work. Only one. Only one?

Yeah. How many tokens? How many tokens? How many do you can I get with this duck? That's right. It might cost a bit more than that. Taylor, did your grandma tell you anything about this word? Actually, yes.

I'm very excited. I'm very excited. Well, she led you astray with the previous word, which I will not pronounce again. She's not perfect, and that's okay. To her credit, she was not talking about hetero. She was talking about homo, so it's an entirely different thing. Don't let me distract you guys.

I know you're all working hard. Taylor's done, though. It's really easy when you cheat and just look up the definition, you know? It makes things go a lot faster. That's what my grandma always said. Are there any words with the mythical triple C? Like, in existence? Mm.

Yeah, dude. Three C's. Uh, that's a great question. I don't know the answer to that. Do you find anything? Not yet. No, I don't think it exists Initial searches are not good

No And I'm going to my second round of searching Mm-hmm CC is a cubic centimeter That's when they're medical... Did you find that in Canada? 20 CCs of this stat Oh yeah

But cubic centimeter's the same as a milliliter What is that an American? An American I was in a distillery once and they, you know, there's the equivalence between, like, a gram of water and a cubic gram and a millimeter are the same amount of water. Yeah, it's... And then they said they measured their water in pounds, and I was just like...

Hmm. I don't trust whatever's going about back there. That British pounds, or... I think, they are imperial pounds. It's looking like there aren't any CCCs. You mean the Cs have to be next to each other, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

You're talking about a word that has C-C next to each other three times. Oh, is that what you want? I thought you wanted three Cs in a row. No, no, I wanted three Cs in a row. Oh, you did? So I'm giving you what you want, and you can't have any. Thomas was trying to give you something different, which is two Cs three times. Is there any word in the English language that has three of the same letter next to each other?

Of any letter? I think like gigady probably. Ooh, that's a good one. When we were expecting our child, I wanted to, I wanted to name a, if we had a boy, I wanted to name him Aaron with three A's. He'd be first in everything. Elon Muskid challenges that. Reminds me of the A-R-A-R-R-A-Ron.

The A-A-A-Ron, yeah, that reminds me of that sketch. That's a good sketch. Can you start their name with a null-tor? terminate or, like, just terminate any, any string? Or a semicolon? No, the, what's the Greek question mark? Oh, awful. That looks like a semicolon.

Yeah. Yeah. That's called an awful. No, it's called Akachshiria or whatever. Yeah. That's the Greek question. That's the Chakitura. Yeah, exactly.

Acacia cat, you're a. Acacia. Acacia cat, you're a. All right, we have everybody's except who we missing here. Oh, we got them all. He was Adams. I finally, my LLM finally got back to me. It's like, come on, man.

You're taking away too long here. Oh, my God. Oh, gosh or something, dude. What are you doing? Hey, nobody knows what this word means. That's a relief. I went to this website called Toad, advanced.com, and it was just, they have a brand new LLM there, and it was just too advanced.

I appreciated how chat GPT5 tried to answer the three Cs in a row, because it would, like, come up with words with two Cs, and then it would throw a third C in there and be like, nope, that doesn't work. Nope, no, like Stucco. It's like Stucco has two Cs. Let me add a third C, and it's like, nope, that's not the word stucco. I was enjoying that back here. The world's smartest five-year-old, really. Yeah. That's why it's GPT-5 is for five years old. Okay, six definitions of chakatura. Number one, a brief grace note played before a principal note, then immediately released.

Number two, the order of operations for actions that must first precede other actions before being executed. Number three, a partial eclipse of a planet formed by multiple moons. Number four, a fungal infection affecting the forearms. Number five, a genus of fungi native to South American rainforests. And number six, when a material has a single plane of sheer resistance. I tried. I tried really hard. Okay.

Matthew, you are up first this round. Yes. Okay, so a single plane of sheer resistance. Yes. Fungal arm? Fungal infection affecting the forearms. Something else about a fungus. A genus of fungi native to South American rainforests.

Uh-huh. A partially eclipse. Partial eclipse, pre-note and pre-order of operations sort of thing. Order of operations, yeah. Okay. I am in between, I'm honestly between two here. Can you repeat the definition? for the pre-note one and for the arm fungus?

Yeah, a brief grace note played before a principal note then immediately released was the musical one. And then the fungus one was a fungal infection affecting the four arms. Four arms. One word. Four arms. Not four arms like you have four of them.

You don't have to worry about the other one. That's a chukotura. No, I can't even come up with anything. Yeah, I think what's starting me off about the fungus one is that it's specific to the forearm. That's what's throwing you off about it? It's like, why would that classify different? You know what if it was like on my bicep or something?

Why would that be different? Are there fungi that only affect the forearms? Different fibers, man. That's right, man. Yeah, exactly. It's different parts of the arm. Get it right. How much you sweat, different parts of your body.

Yeah. It's like when you do a lift and you're like, this only work in my bicep. And it's like, how do you want to do it? That's on my Torah. I think I like the musical note one personally. So I think I'm going to lock in the musical note. All right. Matthew is on the music note.

We go to David. What was the other fungus? Yes. There was the fungal infection, which we've talked about extensively. And then there's a genus of fungi native to South American rainforests. And one of these is the correct answer. That's right. Unless Jared is playing it like

Unless he's just like a Tire around just a big troll Surprise It's not a real word Funguses Fake word Sorry I'm gonna do it Can I have the

The final three one more time Final three Wow That's gonna do it Okay so number four was the Fungal infection affecting the forearms Number five is the genus

Aungi native to South American Rainforest And number six is when a material Has a single plane of sheer resistance Oh right Yeah that's only you forgot about yeah i just like uh it just it flew through me it was so perceptive uh i'm going to go for the musical term as well david's going for music and he he has

the the uh i see a bass in in the background he's a musician so uh that's very suspicious that the musician might be starting to pick the musical i mean i'm not i'm not a musician i just owned several instruments that and he likes guitars as he showcases more instruments to further yeah he moves so you can see the rest of his guitars yeah

how many forearms do you have okay I play all of them simultaneously Taylor what are you thinking you're going to pile on with these guys or you're going to go fungal you're going to go somewhere else altogether sheer resistance no I don't my grandma led me astray I'm not

I'm not falling prey to the Shee resistance once again. He's resisting, sheer resistance. Yeah, she actually, my grandma told me that a chukatura is an eclipse, but I'm not trusting her, so I'm going to go for the Grace Note and pile on. All right, he's pylon on the Grace Note. Oh, boy, we go now to Thomas. Okay, so Grace Note has a pylon, and the order of operation for action,

doesn't have any love partial eclipse with multiple moons that looks like I'm trying to imagine what that would look like and that would be pretty cool to see but I don't see how that's a check tour have you seen Star Wars

have I seen Star Wars yes yeah it's like that that's multiple suns dude you didn't watch the end credit the end credit scene the end credits is all multiple moons Yeah, moonfest

It's not just multiple moons It's partially eclipse of multiple moons It's a partial eclipse of multiple moons Right Yes, a rare occurrence We have fungal in the forearms So I could be like ringworm Different different places

Rumble in the jungle Fungle in the forearms Yeah, fungal in the forearm But there's some like fungus feeling thing About a chakatura And I'm gonna go with number five The genus of fungi native to South

America. All right. So we have Thomas on the South American rainforest fungi. Yeah, all alone on my little island. No man is an island. I don't remember the rest of the poem, but no, it's a poem. It's a book.

No, well, it's it's a, it's a poem and it's a book. Whoa. It's a crazy Paul. This guy's pulling out books, man. That's what they are. Thomas reads, dude. He's a book. That says no man is an island. He just book checked you.

You should read some Thomas Burton. That would be the plug. That's awesome. I love that. Adam, what you thinking, man? Mama always told me if I get a chance to pile on, to pile on. So I'm a palon.

Listen to grandparents and mamas, okay? He's just following the crowd here. Mama always says a good pow-long. Pal-on crowds. All right, let's start right there. Chakatura is a breeze. Grace note played before a principal note, then immediately released. I think it's an Italian word.

So Matthew, David, Taylor, and Adam each get two points. Matthew, David, Taylor, Adam, and Thomas guessed a genus of fungi native of South American Rainforest. That was Matthew, so he gets a bonus. Oh, good job, Matthew. We both had fungus on the mind. Oh, perfect. I was wondering who else did the fungus one.

I really liked a fungal infection affecting the forearms. However, it had this certain, like, roll to the sentence where I thought, that can't be a real thing because it just sounds so a fungal affection affecting the forearms. Like, it's almost, it's almost literative. Like, it's poetic. That's what got me with the water one last time. I was like, and they said water twice.

That was my. That was also Thomas. Yeah. So, he's on to you, dude. I'm on to you, Thomas. Honestly, I've been reading too much. That's my, you're reading too much. He just takes the bookshelf.

He just takes the bookshelf. Come out of here with us plebs, you know? I did. just see hamlet i saw hamlet last week and maybe that's all getting in my head maybe it is yeah did he have a forearm infection no but it's shakespeare thanks now he's educating us plebs he's like that's shakespeare he didn't know that's the only author that i know okay that's the only author yeah shakespeare and i don't know uh yep that's it i can't think of another one here we all right all right round four well let's let's total up the point

points here. After three rounds, David and Matthew tied with eight. It's a battle, guys. Taylor with five, Thomas and Adam tied at four. And Jared with? And I'm still shut out. We guys keep piling on, which usually helps me because if you pile on to the wrong answer, I win, but you're piling on to the right answer, and I lose. You invited us champions here. It's true. I should expect the best. And you guys are giving it to me. Okay. Round four, give it a goog. Oh yes. This is our give it a goog round in which I, I should expect. I should expect the best. And you guys are giving it a gog to me. And I I open up an incognito tab, and I don't change my IP address. So yes, you can go ahead and judge us Nebraskaans as I start to type a phrase into Google, and then I stop and let it auto-complete. I then write down the top auto-complete answer from Google.com. When an incognito tab in Nebraska types Steve Jobs, space. Steve Jobs, then I stopped. then I got some suggestions.

Your chore is to write down what you think a believable suggestion would be the top one and send it to me whenever you're ready. So just his name and then space? That's right. His name, Steve, space, jobs, space. What do you think Google would expect me to type next? Oh, these are coming in hot and heavy. These are good.

These are good. Just to clarify, would Steve Jobs Space Needle be a good answer? You could try it, yeah. I wouldn't stop you. Is that a clarification? I'm leaving the space up to interpretation. Thomas says Steve Jobs book. Thomas is a Steve John's foot.

You have a, I want you to, your mission, should you choose to accept it, is every round you have to blow out of a book that somehow relates, okay? Okay. Somehow relates. That sounds exhausting. It's a challenge. Yeah. Hmm, what's round six? I'll tell you what I'm going to get there

Come on, no hints, no teasers I guess that kind of was a teaser Yeah, who was? We're waiting for Adam and Taylor I gotta say, make files are very annoying sometimes Just letting you want to know There's a heteroscadistic book, there you go Hey, there you go, a little bit of tuft

A little bit of tuft, is that way Is that not tuft? No, that was my nickname back in college So that book I didn't know it's Yeah I think Yeah The visual display of quantitative

Information Well yeah I sure pitched that I pitched that round into your wheelhouse Didn't I David He's like this word exists on the front page of a book that I've read And I keep close I keep me by and I say to reference it

Or just show off to my friends It's working I think you're pretty cool at this point Okay, everyone's in. All right, so six potential auto-completes for the search Steve Jobs blank. Steve Jobs what? Google Auto-completes, the top autocomplete. Here's your six potential answers.

Steve Jobs' net worth, Steve Jobs' biography, Steve Jobs' feet picks. That tells us all we need to know about it back to the best guy. Steve Jobs' daughter, Steve Jobs' wife, Steve Jobs' death. That's six. This round, the person who gets to go first is David. These are largely depressingly plausible. Yeah, exactly. I want to go net worth.

David goes net worth. Adam. I've been curious by his feet, honestly. I've been thinking like, what is this? What does his feet look like? I've seen him. Show me your feet, dude. Okay.

Steve Jobs' feet. He did famously walk around barefoot a lot. You know, like maybe he's got some ganglies, you know? Maybe it's well manicured. Or a little bit of tuft. A little bit toft. A little bit of tough. A little bit of fun.

You probably use some. Acachatur? Yeah, I wasn't trying to say that word. Some tough act and an act. A chakatura? A chakatura on them feats, man. You need some chakotura. So you're going to go with feet picks or?

Heck no, man. They want to know how much money he's got. Oh, man. Okay. Show me the money. Show me the money. All right, Steve Jobs, net worth. Next up is Taylor.

Oh, it's for sure the space needle. it was none of them Steve Jobs Space Needle It was definitely a space needle Okay I'll go daughter I appreciate you doubling down On that joke

Um daughter It was a good bit I had to Yeah daughter It was a good one Taylor's going for Steve Jobs daughter Okay Thomas

Yeah net worth biography Feetpix Daughter Wife and death Ugh That's right Gotta end with death

As always Um, so daughter, she came up with a book, Small Fry a couple years ago. Really? Oh, yeah. About fast food or? No. McDonald's? No.

Is she a small human? I don't understand Small Fry. What's the context? I don't actually know what the context is of the title. It was his pinky toe. Dad's Pinky Toe. Is that, that's what it was. And you would only know that if you looked up the feet picks as everyone else in Nebraska

has. Was it a picture book? It's not a picture book. It's a very serious book. It was actually the invention dad never did. That's what it was. Yeah, he never invented this small fry. Do you have it on your shelf behind you?

No, I don't actually, but I do want to read it. It's on my list of books I want to read. I got too much stuff going on. All right. We got daughter or wife. You know, I'm going to go with daughter because she wrote the book. I wonder if people are like, Steve Jobs' daughter

who wrote the book, but they won't remember her name because she didn't she was, when is Lisa Brennan for a while before now she goes by Lisa Brennan Jobs, so. Okay, so you're going with daughter.

Yeah. All right, Thomas has daughter along with Taylor, David and Adam are on Networth and Matthew is the only one doesn't pick yet. What do you thinking, man? what is it net worth daughter life death wife wife or life wife wife biography biography life is it life

net worth for sure you're going net worth yeah i'm going piling he's piling we have two piles here we have two piles but which one is right david adam and matthew chose net worth Steve john is net worth. Are people Google searching that? I don't know, but Adam created it. So he should know. Nice. Good job, Adam. Good job, Adam. One point for David and Matthew. You don't score any points for guessing your own, but you did convince people. Oh, yeah, I forgot. I guess my own. No, you have to pretend like that's a strategy. I really just did forget. I was like, it's like, it's got to be net worth. Okay. Play it off. It's got to be net worth. Well, Fun fact, Net Worth was actually the third auto-complete for me.

So it was right up there at the top. The second auto-complete for me was death. So that was right at the third at the top. Matthew actually said death. But the number one auto-complete for Steve Jobs is Steve Jobs' daughter. So Taylor and Thomas landed on it. Taylor-Thomas, Jonathan Taylor-Thomas. Two points each for J-T-T.

And I get zero. So I guess Jay doesn't get any, but T-T gets two. Other auto-completes there in that list. Death, net worth, children, cause of death, wife. And finally, Steve Job quotes. No feetpicks. No fitness whatsoever. That was Thomas's.

He threw a rush. And it was a good one. All right. So after round four, we still have Matthew and David tied with eight. That makes sense. Did you guys score that round? No, you did not. Just making sure my calculator is working.

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Moving out in round five, where we play a round of weird flicks. But okay. in this round I have gone out to the interwebs and I have found an obscure old movie Oh yes

In fact I found a movie from 1928 I then took the synopsis of that movie You know like the one lighter description of like What the movie's about You can read it on IMDB etc

And I jotted that down Your job is to write a synopsis Given the name And the year that it was made And convince all of us That you actually wrote The Real Subnopsis synopsis of the movie.

The movie I wrote down is called The Man Who Laughs. The Man Who Laughs. It's from 1928. Please, submit to me your synopsies for the man who laughs whenever you have them ready. And we're confident on that year this time? The year is correct. The year is correct. I gotta go over to my DVD shelf to grab it.

Just for Thomas, a, a movie is like a book, but a fun book. It's like a fun version of a book. A fun book, a fun book, okay. And it takes like several hours to days to finish. Oh, if you're doing it on speed, dude, if you're a rookie. I know what's big of that. You could have watch all my movies at 2XB. Just as Scorsesean tended.

You got to watch it on your iPod Nano at double speed, you know? Have you seen Star Wars? That should be the legal question. I mean... That reminds me, did you guys hear Ira Glass came out of NPR fame of This American Life came out and said, all podcasts should we listen to at 2X? He did not say that. He did say that.

He said to. Ira Glass says podcasts should be listened to, including his own. All podcasts. cast two x i'm gonna start speaking really slow then and all my jokes are gonna take way too long speed that up two extras to me how that sounds adam all your all your jokes already take too long i normally speak fast so i people generally slow my me down yeah i got too much excitement and i'm texin so you know when i speak it's just texin i don't know what that means is it big words did you learn your first big word, Adam.

Chakotore. Star. That's all we know how to say here in Texas. Star. Matthew, just in case you didn't know, you just gave me the title. I know. I know. I sent you the title back.

I like to give you the word and the thing. I forgot I'm supposed to be describing a movie here. I'm talking. And I hit enter to do a new line. The man who laughs, is what this is? The man who laughs, 1928. The man who laughs. Okay.

I can do this. Jared, when do you get the first snow in Nebraska? Well, we have very unpredictable weather, so it can be as early as Halloween, and we had actually one year a humongous snowstorm on Halloween. Close it down. But more realistically, it's like late December, early January. But it's cold far before it snows. Oh, yeah.

It'll be getting cold here soon. Right now it's perfect. whether we're in like 60s, 50s, sunny. I like when the sun is hot, but the air is cold. That's good, by the, well, then you're in the right place. Yeah. I will say, Adam, I take your criticism of the Canadian-American experience, but one of the big benefits is two Thanksgivings.

Yeah. I've already had a Thanksgiving. It was great. Got another Thanksgiving coming up in a few weeks. weeks. It's going to be great. Thanksgiving really should happen twice a year. Totally agree. 10 out of 10. It's actually like my favorite thing. Yeah. And they're spaced out enough, right? They're about a month and change apart so that that second one really comes in. You're like, oh, yeah, I love Thanksgiving. It's great. It's coming around again. Is it similar fair or is there other? Yeah, similar fair. Same stuff. Just a different day.

Cool. I did the turkey this year, though I got too big of a turkey for the number of people we had. Well, that just means you got turkey sandwiches. Turkey sandwiches. I made some stock. What's your preferred preparation for the turkey? I do a salt rub the night before and let it air dry in the refrigerator. so I leave it uncovered, gets the skin nice and crispy, and then day of, melt butter

over it, chop up a lot of veggies, put them in the bottom at the pan and roast it. I don't do anything too crazy fancy, and it just comes out perfectly. Sounds alarmingly like some sort of treatment for fungus, foreign fungus. What is this you're making here? Turkey. Oh, turkey. No, have you ever deep fried turkey? I don't have a house to sell on fire, so...

Totally did. That's not bad. So the only time I've ever done it was with my uncle who is a career firefighter. And that was the only person with whom I felt safe enough to deep fry a turkey. I appreciate, you know, all the local fire departments doing the video where they drop a... Turkey that's not quite frozen You just watch it Or not quite thought

And you just watch it Not quite thought Yeah any of that water It just goes Matthew How's your wife's chocolate business Great I actually have to take pictures

For the next Thanksgiving Christmas Collection tomorrow I think Does she ship to Canada Not to Canada Because I know it's so expensive I know

That's fine That's fine That's fine But if you can meet us at Niagara Falls Yeah, I just meet you at the border Yeah, there you go Yeah, why are you coming down today?

Oh, yeah, yeah, I got some chocolate. A little chocolate swap. Just toss it across the border. Ooh, that's called smuggling. Yeah. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. No. I prefer snuggling.

Chocolate jokes, what's the difference? I mean, come on. I was watching a video about the engineering of Niagara Falls the other day. Really interesting stuff. And what I learned, was that pretty much the exact same setup is replicated on both sides

and it was kind of like a peeing contest to a certain degree it's like you're going to do that we're going to do it like they couldn't they couldn't share they couldn't work together it was like no we're both going to have the exact same deal we're just going to do everything twice that was kind of funny

I think they worked together in a certain sense of like the design because everything's designed like mirrored to a certain degree which is kind of cool but I didn't know there was like All that going on back then. Six pretty well written. Synopsies for 1928s, The Man Who Laughs, But which one is the action?

movie plot. Here we go. Number one, the man who laughs, recounts the story of Dr. Dennis Rockwell, who struggles with his grip on reality as he treats his patients out at Mount Basker Mental Asylum. Number two, a disgruntled railroad worker catches the next train out of town to find beauty in life. Number three, a veteran of the Great War cheerfully tries to save his farm. Number four, a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin is forced into circus life and separated from his true identity.

Number five, darkly romantic, a comedian is heartbroken when his lover leaves him for a member of his audience, the man who laughs. And number six, thrust into the starlight two laugh-filled men adventure together to seek the love of the same woman. As stage performers who travel, they find it hard to see her in the crowd. So they developed a laugh from bellows down below to win her love, to win her love. All right, six different potential synopsies of 1928's, the man who laughs. Adam, you can't pile on this drowned because you are first. Gosh. Is any way to go last?

Is that possible? You can't pile on because you're first. Can I just not do that? I do think that would be an interesting mechanic to introduce in a future version of this game. Adam always goes last? Or just like you, someone gets the ability to... Oh, to like play that card every once in a while or something. Yeah, that's a good idea.

Interesting. You know, I wasn't listening, so... I'm used to going last. And I get the power on, push my button. It's just a, you know, the easy button, you know? Could I ask you to describe the... to me again. Can I give you a brief because this was a lot of reading?

No, you can just give me the summary. All right. So number one was the story of Dr. Dennis Rockwell. Okay, yeah. I remember that. I was listening to that one. I was kidding that the Mount Basker Mental Asylum. Number two.

That's a pretty good one. Who wrote that? Number two was the disgruntled railroad worker who catches the next train out of town. Oh, yeah. He also pretty good. He finds beauty in life. Yeah. Number three was the veteran of the Great War who cheerfully tries to save his farm.

Yeah, that's a good one, too. Number four, a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin Who's forced into circus life That does have smile feels What? What is it? You so laugh, so I guess laugh, smile. It's all the same, right?

Number five was a comedian who is heartbroken When his lover leaves him for a member of his audience, The man who laughs. Taylor wrote that. Wow. Call out. Number six was the two laughed-filled men Who are seeking the same, the woman's love.

so there's your synopsies of the synopsies what do you think what are you convinced by what do you you know I just want to ask if I can go last you can't you can't go last all right fine I will go with the the disgruntled

railroad worker who found a way to go down the mountain all right who's that guy is that is that mixing them did I mix them a disgruntled railroad

old worker catches the next train out of town. That's one you want. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if I like that one. All right. Well, we'll see. What was the one before that?

Taylor, you're next. What was the one before that? The man who goes last. Are you not locked in? No. Still thinking about them. I thought we were moving on. Before that was the doctor, Dennis Rockwell, at the mental asylum.

He treats his patients. But he struggles when he loses a grip on reality. Yeah. That's Paul. plausible for sure. You want that one? No. Railroad.

Just go railroad all day. All right. You're sticking with the railroad. Taylor, what do you want? Let's see. My grandma actually saw this one with theaters. Did you say theaters? 1928, right?

Yeah. 1928. Yeah. Yeah. The cinema. She said, she told me, though, it was the one about the guy with the old guy with the house with the balloons. So that one's not an option. I'll go with the nobleman

The disfigured face The disfigured nobleman All right Oh wait What was the first one again The uh The Mount Basqueur mental asylum Ooh

You want that one instead No let's do nobleman Thomas I Let's see So we have the mental asylum We have beauty Let's see

Man after the great war Circus life The comedian And then the two laugh filled men I feel like Yeah two laugh filled men You call it the men who laugh, or maybe that's the sequel. I'm going to go with the mental asylum one, the number one.

Number one. That's a good choice. That's a good choice. Is it yours? No, it's just good choice, man. We go to Matthew. Mental asylum one, railroad something, nobleman something. You should go with the one with the Great War in it.

Something about a Great War. Yeah, because I don't think it happened yet. Like to 20. Can you read the? Can you read the other? You like, you know? Can you read the asylum one and the nobleman one? Sure.

So, no, they're not the same. The asylum one is the story of Dr. Dennis Rockwell, who struggles with his grip on reality as he treats his patients at Mount Basker Mental Asylum. Got it. Okay. Are you saying the Great War wouldn't have happened by 28th? What's the Great War? Is that World War?

1928? No, yeah. you're right. But 1928. See, he just said doctors. They didn't have doctors in 1928. That one, that one's false too, dude. Also synopsises, synopsises, whatever. Yes.

Like a lot of, you introduced me with too many characters in that synopsis. Right. And the other one was a noble something? Yeah, disfigured nobleman. Disfigured nobleman. He's got a permanent grin. Oh, like the Joker. Always smiling.

He's forced in the circus life. and separate him from his true identity. That sounds fun. So he's first, for some, okay. I think I'm, I think I'm leaning to that one.

Someone already picked that one, though, right? Yeah, Taylor picked that one, and Thomas picked the mental asylum one. So they both have one person on them. I think I'm leaning towards the nobleman,

the Joker story, the Joker origin story. Okay. You're going to lock that in? Railroad is another one. Lovers, something. Yes. Yeah, I think the nobleman

sounds the best here. It feels, I don't think anyone here is going to use the word disfigured. Wow, that's a, that's a dis. Yeah. All right, I'm going to lock you in then. Lock me in, please. Locked you in on the pile on. We go to David. Yeah, I think my intuition last time was sort of prudish about what would be acceptable movie like contents. And so the disfigured nobleman kind of sounds right to me as well. So it's a pylon. Again. Oh, all right. We're very conservative bunch here.

Seriously. A lot of hurting. I am in pain, so yeah, the hurting is real. No, just kidding. Well, it's keeping the game closed because every time someone scores, everybody else scores also. Mm. All right. Well, we've heard these synopsies over and over and over again.

Let's go to the guesses. Adam thought maybe it was the disgruntled railroad worker that was written by Matthew, so one point to Matthew. Thomas was convinced by the Mount Basker. mental asylum. I thought that one was amazing. Taylor wrote that. Good job. Taylor. Point to Taylor. And then the pile on. They're piling onto a disfigured nobleman with a permanent grin who's forced into circus life and separated from as a true identity in 1928's The Man Who Laughs. That is the actual synopsis of a movie. It doesn't sound half bad, does it? It actually doesn't. I might have to go watch that later, Thomas. Yeah, or if you could get it converted

into a book, then you could read it. I don't have to read everything as a book. I also watch movies. You could pull the book out when we talk about it. Fun fact, Manu Lafs was the very first Pixar film. He's coming from the guy who's not, who's calling into question the years of the Great War. That was David.

That's why he was defending that one. I tried to let it breathe for an appropriate amount. You don't want to jump to this defense too harshly. Yeah. I knew what you were doing there, David. I could see it. Well played. All right.

So Taylor, Matthew, and David all get two points for getting that right. So three total points for Taylor. Two for David, three, four. Where's my points? Is I getting any points? Matthew. No, not this round. No.

Unfortunately, you didn't get to go last. Oh, man. And that brings us to the end of round five. And Matthew is in striking distance. He has 11. Of course, Taylor and David are also in striking distance with 10. Thomas and Adam have six. And we don't have to talk about me.

I'm going to call a two-point win, play you're over. I don't know, man. I'm trying to. I see the time. That's got to eat, bro. I don't know. I'm not winning, so. So your entire idea should switch to subterfuge, don't you think?

That's your strategy? It's going to start reading. You're going to start reading. All right. That brings us to round six. And that brings us to a very long word. pronounced brob dingnagian brob

brob dingnagian the word for round six is brob ding negian and it's spelled B-R-O-B D-I-N-G N-A-G I-A-N

Brob ding-N-N-A-N-O-W that's my best pronunciation yet Brob-Dig-E-Rob-Dig-E-Rob-D-Negian That is definitely not how it's pronounced but I see why you're doing it that way. This is the second time you've done this to me, and I'm telling you I looked it up on YouTube.

It's pronounced Brobdingnagian. So take that, Matthew. Take that, Matthew. Yeah. Check out your own YouTube videos for pronunciation and step back in my world again. Brobding Nagian. If it ends in IAN, it's an Armenian.

So, uh, fun fact. A slight alteration. It could also be pronounced Brobding Nagian. Nagian. So it could be Nagian or Nagian. I've heard them both now. But Brobding is correct. Brob ding.

Please submit to me. Your definitions of Brob ding. Ding. Nagy-in. Ding. Or Nagian, if you prefer. Now. You know what?

It's been real. I'll get some dinner. Jared can't pronounce the words anymore. I'm two for two man I'm two for two you're good this this word is interesting

I have words about this word write them down and submit them to me I can't say until our definitions are out there okay oh by the way Adam did you LLM that last one

I haven't a LLM anything man okay I can do that you're running out of time dude my law do that you get one you get one

oh my gosh I should do this soon so my I mute myself when I'm talking typing because I have this gnarly clickety clacker and when I do type I get the little notification hey are you trying to speak if you're trying to speak you're muted right now I'm like no I'm typing I prefer just to hear the clickety class man let's get them click click click click click click but now I have to do some thinking before now we know and you're not typing too

we finally judge you I think if you were really paying attention you could notice like how long was I typing you could guess which I wouldn't put it past David I think he's playing to win here he's probably going to listen to your typing figure out of your definition

he has those big over-year headphones on to really get Matthew also has headphones literally the majority of six people in this chat I know I know I know I know I know I know I know, I know. It's not lost of me. I mean, mine are open back, so I still hear the...

Oh, okay, yes. Oh, wow. You know, I got to hear my dog's barking, where my wife is calling me. Yep. I hear my dog barking. I need to take her for a walk. Can I change my answer for the Steve Jobs one? What do you want? I don't know. Just, just wondered if I could. He's a lot.

Yeah, I can go work. Okay. I want to choose Steve Steve Jobs net worth. Nah! That gives Adam another point. Yeah, no right.

There we go. I did get, this is relevant to change log. I did get this book before it came out. Oh, wow. I got the not for resale. Before it came out? Yeah. That's a contradiction, dude. You can't get something

before it comes out. But that's not true. if you know the right people did you I had it before he wrote it you had it before he wrote it yeah well you got to know the right people no this is yeah it says these proofs are not to be quoted for publication

you just published it dude you're on a podcast the book's out the book came out it says it says on the back when the book actually comes out that already came out everyone can buy it now did you hear about the sequel to to that book called constipation. No, you haven't.

Hasn't come out yet. That's a good one. Bravo. I hate that I love that, but that's pretty good. He hates that. That's a good one. Such is life. Okay.

Six definitions for Brobding Nagyin. Number one. purposefully accelerating civilization collapse number two having to do with the sport of brobsledding number three

all right Taylor we got it we got it number three a fictional area in the golden sun video game where the characters face the toughest enemies number four a matrix of

fourth derivatives. Number five, cousin to the backyard agains. Malik, Zara, Angie, and they love to play in the front yard. You're not helping anything with that. Imagine themselves on fantastic adventures. That's awesome. That's amazing. And number five, or sorry, number six, marked by tremendous size. Marked by tremendous size. Okay. Six definitions.

Good news for you, Adam. You get to go last. So you're safe. Taylor has to go first this round. Taylor, what do you think is Brobding Neggian? I do just want to give a shout out real quick to the backyard again. I've been watching that show with my daughter, and it's like got some fire tracks. Oh, yeah, man.

Oh, yeah. K. Brob Demon Hunters? oh that's a good one so it's between so it's between uh brobsledding that was that was a very good one whoever did that's very clever uh brobs sledding and it could be the real answer you don't know you have like you like brobs slut is not real or something uh yeah i think i like the first one the last one they sounded the most legit uh okay so lot the last one was size Yeah, tremendous size Tremendous size

No, that's too on the nose What was the first one? The first one was purposefully Accelerating Civilizational Collapse Ooh Nah, that's too That's too smart for me What about a

Let's pick the last one Size Size, he's going for size Size does matter for Taylor Thomas size size big or size which size marked by tremendous size he's asking about a homonym

would you call me so we got S I Z-I-Z-E it's spelled S-I-Z-E so accelerating civilization collapse correct rob sledding which Rob sledding is I mean it sounds really good And you have the golden sun video game. A matrix of fourth derivatives.

Yes. The backyard against. Cousin to the backyard against. Cousin to the backyard against. Yeah. Technigian marked by tremendous size. It's dark, but I'll do the acceleration of civilization collapse. Okay.

We go to Matthew. The summary of each of them was, let me think I remember this. Mark Petriman, size one, Thomas, the collapse of civilization that he just picked. Right. Rob sledding. Robb sledding backyardigans or something or other? Correct. Golden Sun something?

Yes. And a matrix of fourth derivatives. A matrix of fourth derivatives. Correct. As in math, I guess. No, these are programming languages that derive from fourth. boo that's a homonym that is a hominem um wow i'm actually not sure rob brab brab dingin bro rob denegian rob denegian or everything that sounds like a thing

rather than like a status or like a description or something sounds like an actual thing like a noun yeah exactly like it's a name somebody that's somebody hanging out yeah it's like the It's the name of a location or something, or it's a name of something. Like, you call someone this. You know what I mean? Right. You are such thing.

Like it's a slur. Okay, so I have to let me. Not the backyard again thing. Not the other rob sledding one. Collapsing of society, I don't think so. And then there's three more. Marks by tremendous size as an adjective. And then you have the matrix of four derivatives,

which would be a noun. So I've narrowed down to what golden sun and size. Golden Sun and size. Well, size is not, I'm not going to help you. That's fine. I'm just saying it's not a noun. No, I agreed.

But like every other one, I don't like the other. Okay, fine. Whatever one you want. Can you read the Golden Sun one, please? Can you read both of them? A fictional area in the Golden Sun video game where the characters face the toughest enemies and then marked by tremendous size.

Fictional area in the Golden Sun. I like that it clarifies that it is a fictional area in the video game. Yeah. Like there's real areas and there's fictional areas. Yeah. Like Grand Theft Auto is like real areas in a fictional game, you know. Right. Or Tony Hawks, Pro Skater, like you're on Burnside, but you're not actually there.

By the way, Thomas, a video game is just a really fun movie. Really fun movie. So choose your own adventure book. I feel like there's an ask. escalation of fun that I'm just missing out on. I think I kind of have to pile on here because yeah, I don't

nothing really names nothing really names the video game like what a definition name something I don't know I mean like Metaverse yeah I guess all right I'll pile on to the size one because I don't believe it's the society collapse

all right Matthew is with Taylor on size David you are Bob Dinning in and you are so brobdick digne i don't know yeah so brobdignagian i don't know if um there's like a word like manichayan which is like a way that people construct a world worldview that's kind of binary between good and evil and so that's one way in which that could be like the that could be related there are my different like my linear algebra is very rusty So I feel like there are some named matrices, but I don't remember if that's one of them.

We have a couple of obviously ridiculous ones. Sorry, did it specify what video game? Yeah, golden sun. Golden sun. Is that a game, like, is that a popular game? I don't know. I haven't heard of it myself. Okay.

But I'm not a gamer very much. I just play Rocket League. yeah enormous size it has it it is kind of a like big feeling word you know yeah and and thus regrettably yeah it's it's happening it's happening i i i'm not quite convinced by any of the others so so matthew and taylor are tied with 11 and you have sorry matthew has 11 you and taylor are tied with 10 and so all you are picking the same one Yeah. No, I mean, like there's no, there's not a, I don't, I don't think there's a strategically better move to make than attempting to pick the correct thing. Like, it's, it's basically like

going to, yeah, well, let's see what happens. All right, let's see what happens. So, what's that, Adam? You're up, man. Oh, my gosh. I'm going to have to have you read them all again for me. You can just pile on, dude. You're going last. I don't want to go last though this time i want to go wait i do whatever else is already gone this is all gone how could you not go you're first and then you're last I can't take you anywhere

what is it there was a there was a there was a book a little blue truck move a bud I'm first your last that's what it says okay okay fine I'll you know default answer I guess I guess I'll Paul

I'll pile on okay he's pal I was thinking about, you know, having you read one of them at least, but I'm not going to do that. Well, let's start with the only guy who win his own way. Yeah. Just like the old song, you can go your own way. But it's going to be a lonely day, Thomas. It's a lonely day sitting over there on Taylor's purposefully accelerating civilizational collapse.

One point for Taylor. Which just had, like it had, you already said accelerating. Like, that's acceleration. You did it. You fully did it. Accelerationism. Accelerationism. And then everybody else just piled on to marked by tremendous size, which is an adjective,

even though Matthew was looking for nouns, he couldn't find one. It feels like a place. And that's because Brobdingnag is a place. It's a fictional place in Golver's travels where Golver goes. And the people in Brogding Nag are marked by tremendous size. So they are robbing Nagyans. And so everybody who picked that gets two. I just think of like the Spider-Man movie

when he lands in like the Netherlands or something. Where are you? And he like says the name of the town. And it's like some, I don't know what language they really speak there, but it reminds me of that word. What language do they speak there? I don't know. What is the town name?

A couple of shoutouts. I have no idea what you're referring to. I'm going to get it. I'm going to get it. All right, you think. A couple of shoutouts. backyard again, that was Adam. Golden Sun was Matthew.

Does anybody know golden son besides yourself, Matthew? I know, I played it. It was a good game. Okay. And then, of course, the brobsledding was Thomas, which was funny because somebody immediately thought

Taylor wrote that one. But Taylor said it was too smart for him or something. I'm surprised. The one chose the Brab Bartigans. Whatever they called. What a shame. Brobden Nangians?

Brobden Nangians, yeah. So after six rounds of play, we do have winners. We also have hard stops, so we'll have to decide what we're going to do here because... People have won? Taylor and Matthew both have 13 points, put them over the 12-point threshold. David has 12, putting them at the 12-point threshold. So we can end the game with a two-way tie for first. I know that Thomas has to wrap.

I think everybody has dinner to have at a certain. point we can call it we can continue we can go without thomas we can just i'm not going to win this one so i can i can back out go walk my dog let's talk to our our two guys tied for first place taylor matthew how would you like to proceed i don't have a preference we can tie it we can tie break it we can whatever i have more rounds in my back pocket so that's not a problem let me think i am super hungry let's just call it a two-way tie for first oh boy

we've been playing a long time so let's just congratulate our two winners oh all right I thought you were going to say something oh yeah sorry I think I lagged I was going to say or we flip a coin right like

flip a coin I have an idea you both see go back and forth who can name more words whoever runs out of words first loses. I would definitely lose that one easily. Sounds like counting from one to a million. Yeah.

One, two, three. You don't have another tiebreaker thing that we can do, Jared? I'm thinking. You can do a live Google thing. I do have another goo round. We could just have the two of you. We both just guess on three or something. And whoever's guess is higher in the Google rank wins or something.

On the fly. Oh, my goodness. Ask Google to generate a number between zero and one. We could also do that. All right. I'm pulling up Google right now. Who's a change log plus plus describer? No, just kidding.

Oh, yeah. No, just kidding. Okay, so I'm going to pull up Google. I'm going to start typing an autocomplete. I'm going to stop. And then you guys will guess until somebody hits the top autocomplete and the person who hits it wins. You guys cool with that?

Sure. I love it. All right. I have typed Bill Gates, space. Not space needle, but a literal blank character. Bill Gates, space. And the first one to hit it wins. So how do we, how should we?

We'll start with a changelag plus plus member. Who's Matthew? But I'm not a change like plus plus. Oh, shoot. I thought you were. I thought I was too, but I, you know, I just listen so much We start with Taylor

I'm now offended by Matthew I'll start with Taylor yeah David is one but he's also missing a point yeah we'll start with Matthew I'm not I'm not easily offended go ahead man

it's better though all right so just say one yeah what do you think Bill Gates auto completes too net worth it's on there but it's not number one okay Taylor feet

is it Bill Gates versus God Zoh That should probably be up in the top five. Let's go with Bill Gates. It's feet, man. The blank's already in there. What keeps on coming up to me is like the Bill Gates Epstein situation because there was a tie there or something in Bill Gates Epstein to be real topical, maybe. Okay.

Okay. Nope. Matthew. You try? What is Bill Gates even? What is he known for now anymore? Who cares to Google him? He was in the news recently.

Was he in the news recently? Yeah. I don't care about Bill Gates. I don't either. I just know he's in the news. What does he do? Doesn't he like involved in like farm stuff now? He's bought a bunch of farmland.

That's what I thought. David's chopper the bit because he knows, he knows what this is about. And he's like, I was one point away. I could be in this. The answer's feet. Yeah. Okay. You're missing out.

Bill Gates' feet. I feel like if it's not. at worth. I'd laugh if it was like the other one. What was the other Google one? I would laugh if it was the same thing, the same Google thing. Because you put two names, right? Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs' daughter. Bill Kay's daughter. Okay, I think I would guess, isn't he a big proponent of like, I don't even know. Okay. Give me a timer. Count down something. It'll force something out of me. Three, two, one. Okay. Climate change. Does he need to do something with farms and climate change?

Bill Gates, climate change? Yeah. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Is it really? You got it, man. Bill Gates, climate change. Matthew, pulling out of nowhere is our winner. David knew that one.

My wife told me a bunch that he, like, bought up a lot of farmland and I was like trying to do these things. He was in the news recently because he commented on climate change. I came around what he said, but it seems like he had softened his position or he said it's not going to kill everybody or something. We're just going to have to learn. to live with its mitigation. Really? Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my God. Yeah. So people are Googling it up. That's wild. All right. Well, it was a weird tiebreaker, but it was a tiebreaker nonetheless. And Taylor, I'm sorry, but Matthew just eeked you out. David, was that what you were going to guess was climate change or do you have something

else up your sleeve? I was, the other thing that was like relatively newsy about him recently would have been something about, like, I think the last thing he said was something about how. People can't expect his donations to step in for all the work the federal government isn't doing anymore. So it would have been something about that or his foundation. I wanted to say foundation, but like if net worth wasn't there, I figured foundation wasn't going to be up any higher. Can I change my answer to Bill Gates net worth? Can I do that?

Sure. On the Steve Jobs question, are you on this one now? Can you read the ones that were there? Bill Gates Climate Change, number one, Bill Gates net worth. Bill Gates' climate change pivot number three. Bill Gates' daughter. I don't even know. Does he have a daughter? Bill Gates' daughter is number four.

That's hilarious. Yeah. And then you get into Bill Gates' age, Bill Gates' memo, climate change, Bill Gates' wife. And then you get down to Bill Gates' quotes. I feel like daughter and wife for always, no matter what, like... I think people are just curious. Like, does this person have a daughter? Does the person have a wife?

Yeah. Yeah. Do you... Now I just need to grow my blog big enough where people are searching Taylor-Troche, daughter, wife, you know, that's when you know you make it, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me pull up my Google thing now. Oh, gosh.

What are people say? This is funny. The number one is Taylor Troche, which I already typed, then Taylor Troche linked in. And then did Taylor and Taylor date? Oh, that's a good one. And then Taylor Smith, Taylor history.

So it's just moving, yeah, it's just... How far is Taylortown? It's a good question. Where is Taylortown? is it in brab ding dang dude I don't get I don't get any

uh auto completes I'm not famous yeah me either Taylor's the coolest one so I have a confession to make what's that and I'm super sad about it

I was uh you know like when you when you play spades or you got really good cards like the wild car when you're playing Uno you know you know and you wait and you're like oh this is this is a good time to use my

my good thing right yeah I just waited too long I never used the LLLLN so sad about that. I was going to use it when I thought I had a good score to get

at the very end like a trunk card kind of thing Yeah, sadly I failed. Well, we'll let you hold on to that for the next time you play. I can get two next time with that. Two LMs.

Sure. Sure. I'll give you two. I like it. I'll use them anyways. Does Matt get a free change log plus plus subscription for winning?

That's right. Yep. Well, tell him where it's at. And then that's free information. It's changelog.com slash plus plus. They say it's better. All right, y'all, thanks for playing. This has been too much fun.

I feel like it was too competitive, almost too conservative because of the competition level. We've got to bring in some more loosey-goosey folks who are willing to guess the funny ones. But you all are invited back as well. And Matthew, the champion of champions. I mean, how's it feel?

I feel with my hands, thanks. No, it feels good. We should definitely change the rules of pylons, though. It's easy to pile on to, like, you're hedging your bet really, really well. It is the smart choice. Right. So we should think about that. Just think about fixing that.

The problem is, yeah, there needs to be more better answers because they'll pile on the wrong one and I'll get some points. Well, yeah, like the broad ding-ding in something. Like, it's not that I think it was the size, but like every other answer was wrong. And then I was left between my answer. So it's really your guys' fault is my point, you know? Yeah, it is. We're insufficiently creative, so. This one was actually tough to be more funny, too.

Like, I usually come up with more funny stuff. So listeners, I could probably disappoint them a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Except for me in the backyard against cousin version. Yeah, that was cool. I like that one. Yeah.

I was waiting for you to read it, Jared. I want to see your face. Taylor played it way straighter than he normally does. You know, I think he was really trying to win. Normally his answers are just preposterous. but a lot of good answers coming out, Taylor. Yeah, I think, I mean, the other, the other way to sort of rebalance the game is to, because is to, if everyone has to choose simultaneously, like the results, so, you know, you kind of submit

them essentially, like, yeah, so that we're not. So you don't get to actually hear their logic. Yeah. Yeah, because Thomas was really picking it apart and given all of his logic out early and he actually did logic his way to the right. answer but then everyone's just like yeah I'm gonna go with that one so yeah most people hold those thoughts inside and just guess I think but he was really explaining as thought which I appreciate as a guy just listening you know but you guys apparently appreciate it as well he had some good

definitions too he just like repeated the words like water water accelerate accelerated yeah by the way to our listeners Thomas had a bounce that's why we're talking about him and not talking to him it'd be weird if he was still hearing we're just talking about him it's kind of weird talking about it with a knot here. But shout out to Thomas. Excellent. Excellently played round of Pound Define. And I thought everybody played well.

Thanks for joining us, guys. Yeah. My friends. Bye. By Taylor. By Matthew. By David. By Thomas.

By me. We'll see if you can get Carol to come up and kick all your guys' butts next time around. Come on, Carol. Get back over here. Carol. Carol Lee, Ph.D. Bye, y'all. Bye.

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