The Charlie Kirk Show - Ask Charlie Anything 227: Elon/Trump Kayfabe? Where's No Tax on Tips? Should You Want to Retire?

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Charlie takes an hour of questions live from CK Exclusives subscribers, including:   -Does Charlie think any part of the Elon/Trump feud was staged? -What in the Big Beautiful Bill for America's millions of truck drivers? -What is the goal of retirement, and should you want it?   Become an Exclusives subscriber and ask Charlie a question on-air by going to members.charliekirk.com. Watch every episode ad-free on members.charliekirk.com!  Get new merch at charliekirkstore.com!Support the show: http://www.charliekirk.com/supportSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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gold. Go to noblegoldinvestments.com. We are taking all of your calls as members, members.charliekirk.com. That is members.charliekirk.com. Trey, thank you for being a member. What is on your mind? Hey, can you for being a member. What is on your mind? Hey, can you hear me? Yes. What is on your mind? Hey, how's it going, Chuck? Thanks for being a member. Yes.

Of course. So first off, I wanted to thank you for inviting me onto the Turning Point team. I'm looking forward to being a part of the Gulf region. It's going to be awesome. Amazing. Phenomenal. A lot of great ideas brewing right now so um my question for you today do you think elon and do you think the elon and trump feud was staged at all no not at all it was

very real yes correct okay you don't think it could have been like in like a distraction from like something else that trump you, potentially has brewing right now. Like, no, it was very, very real, very much real. Yes. Okay. Well, I was just curious what your thoughts were. Just a couple of guys blowing off steam, couple, a couple of roommates that spent a little bit too much time together at Mar-a-Lago, but a lot of people think that, and I could tell you right now that

they're in a much better place now. So definitely awesome. Yeah. I did see, I saw that they were together at some point yesterday and somewhere, but yeah. Thank you, Charlie. Thanks, man. Really appreciate it. Okay. Anthony, thank you for being a member members.charliekirk.com Members.CharlieKirk.com. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Anthony, what's on your mind? Morning, Charlie. Question. With the riots going on, now the stuff between Israel and Iran, there's something that's kind of been floating under the radar. The Republican in the House, last name Green, he just retires unexpectedly immediately after voting for the big, beautiful bill. But there's really like, you know, this has kind of gone under the radar. You know, we already have a slim majority. Now it's even slimmer. What's going on with this? Because not many people are covering it because of all the other headlines. And then the other thing is, I just want to see if you got an email

I sent you a couple of weeks ago regarding a topic we talked about regarding Harvard and all that stuff, the theory I had. Yeah. And so the email that you sent, I'm not sure, but Mark Green said Monday that he'll resign from Congress after it passes the President Trump's domestic agenda, the reconciliation bill. It has been a heavy heart that I announced my retirement from Congress. Recently, I was offered an opportunity, the private sector that was too excited to pass up. I don't know too much about it. I mean, I will say, though, that people, once they get into Congress, it's not what they thought it was going to be. It's a lot of travel. It's very thankless.

It's a very heavy task, to say the least. Right. And I could tell you that these resignations happen quite a lot. I mean, we saw that with Gallagher, but I mean, they get, it's just like, what do these Congress people do all day long? It's hard to even comprehend. So anyway, thanks so much, Anthony. Really appreciate it. Thank you. No problem. Have a good one. Okay. Aaron, Aaron, thank you for being a member. Members.charliekirk.com. What's on your mind? Hello, Charlie. Can you hear me? Yes. How are you? I just want to say, big fan. You're actually the one who brought me to God.

Oh, praise the Lord. I just wanted to question, my brother is kind of a diehard communist, and I was wondering, what can I do to kind of bring him back capitalism and religion and stuff like that? So your brother is a diehard communist. Well, it's a good question. I would begin by saying that one of the reasons why people go towards communism or socialism is they have unresolved envy in their life. They want something that is not necessarily theirs.

And they're looking the world through a prism of oppressor and oppressed instead of what is just and unjust. I have to ask you, though, Aaron, how has your journey been going back to God? And it means the world that I played a role in that. Tell me more. Well, for a long time, it's not that I was atheist or anything. I just never really thought about it. But watching some of your videos and other people that just talk about God and everything, it started to make sense to me. And one day I was at a funeral at a Lutheran church.

I'm from Akron, Ohio. And I was at a Lutheran church for a funeral and just something spoke to me. And I've been going there ever since, and videos like yours have just directed me, put me in the right direction. Well, praise the Lord. That is what it's all about, and believing in God and serving God and doing God's will here on earth is what it's all about. Pray for your brother, first and foremost. That's the most important thing. Engage him in the Socratic method. Ask critical questions. You know, try to try and get him closer towards some approximation of truth. And honestly, I could tell you, and Aaron,

I want to send you a book and send you a hat. It's beautiful. You're why I do what I do. And also understand, remember that as soon as you say you are a Christian, you represent Christ when you are around him. If you are happier, more joyful, pleasant to be around, he might not immediately but be like, why is it that my brother is happier than I am? And so, so phenomenal to hear that. I hope to meet you one day. Maybe I met you before Aaron, and I don't know, but that, that is beautiful. And can't wait to meet you. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay. Let's let's go to the next one. We're going to go through, we're going to get through a lot today. Cause I know we have a ton waiting. Usually Patrick, Patrick, thank you for being a member members.charliekirk.com. Patrick, Patrick, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Patrick, what is on your mind? Hi, Charlie. I just wanted to say first, happy Father's Day as well. Oh, thank you.

Absolutely. It means a lot. My question was, how did you become so successful, and what advice would you give to someone my age wanting to retire early, you know, 50, 55, in order to enjoy life with my family and maybe go bow hunting with Uncle Ted Nugent on me and I's birthday? work, do not retire from worthy tasks. I totally get retiring from your specific job, but stay busy towards righteous and good purposes in your church. Find a hobby or even part-time work. It is not good for man to be idle. It is not good. And so I totally get it. You've earned retirement, but find new purpose. It's not good to And so I totally get it. You've earned retirement, but find new purpose. It's not good to become aimless. So I do unfortunately find retirees, they get really bored. And boredom is bad. I have a whole belief that bored men create really bad countries.

When you have young men, men of any age that is bored and they have a lot of time on their hands, they get into stuff they should not get into. So your job is now to pass along wisdom and mentor young people. You get involved, the turning point action, but find a new purpose and a new task. And honestly, it sounds like you've worked your tail off throughout the years. Am I right? Patrick, you've probably worked, right? Yeah. Yes, sir.

I'm an electrician in Indiana. So, yeah, you've literally busted your back for years. Am I right, Patrick? You've probably worked, right? Yeah. Yes, sir. I'm an electrician in Indiana. So yeah, you've, you've, you've literally busted your back for years. So you deserve some time just to take a breath and to go bow hunting and to enjoy life. But you know, as hard as you've worked as an electrician, I'm going to give you advice. So the people will probably not have you give that retirement is well-earned, but make sure it's not just stationary, sedentary, sitting on the couch or sitting on the recliner. You don't strike me as that type of person because God gave you life and we need you to keep pouring into your community and pouring into people around you. And so, Patrick, I hope that that resonates with you in some way.

Yes, sir. It does. Thank you very much. Absolutely. And God bless you, Patrick, and hope to meet you soon. Thank you. God bless you. We're going to get to you soon. Thank you. God bless you. We're going to get to the next member in a second. What great members calls today, especially a young man who gave himself to the Lord because of the work we're doing. You know, it's funny because some pastors will attack me, Charlie, you're too aggressive, you're all this. And I say, look, everyone has their own tact. Everyone has their own approach.

But we do bring more people back to church and bring more people back to Jesus than I think people give us credit for. Not that it matters. Not that it's a tally. It's all the Lord's work, right? It's God at work. It's God who has plans for all of us. What I'm saying, it doesn't matter who gets the credit is what I'm saying. But I do think it's important that people recognize and realize that all the work we do here on the show, all of my campus commentary has significant religious and spiritual implications. Every soul that you save is like saving the whole world.

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I want to just say one thing before we get to the next question here. We are resolutely America first here on this program. And I want to keep say one thing before we get to the next question here. We are resolutely America first here on this program. And I want to keep on getting your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com, how you view this situation in the Middle East, how you view what's happening with Israel, how you view what's happening with Iran. That is freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com. If America were to strike Iran in addition to Israel, how would you feel about that? I want your thoughts, freedom at charliekirk.com. If America were to strike Iran in addition to Israel, how would you feel about that?

I want your thoughts. Freedom at CharlieKirk.com. Okay, Michael. Michael, what's on your mind? Members.CharlieKirk.com. What's on your mind? Hey, Charlie. What's going on?

Since the House is actually like, I got to give Speaker Johnson credit. I didn't think he'd do it. I didn't think the House would do it. They're actually passing the rescission bills. I figured they'd drag it out until midterms, but since they've actually gotten off their butt and kept working, uh, you think the Senate is going to get off their butt and actually pass the big, beautiful bill? I think so. I mean, I was really, I'm really disappointed by what I saw from Lindsey Graham the other day. He said, Oh, the no tax on tips,

no tax on overtime might not make it like, Oh my goodness. I mean, so you're going to keep all this other boondoggle stuff that, like, we have to kind of shrug our shoulders. Like, okay. And, like, we need no tax on tips. We need no tax on overtime. That is a fundamental campaign promise, a critical, fundamental campaign promise, without a doubt. And so it has border security. No, please keep going. About the no tax on overtime. I'm a truck driver. I get paid by the mile instead of hourly.

What do you think the chance would be in the future of turning it from no tax on overtime to no tax on anything made after 40 hours of work? You know, it's a good question. So I don't know because overtime is a very technical thing where you get time and a half. I don't know the answer to that. I can tell you, though, that specifically for overtime wages, they usually are earning less money. People that are, let's say, open to overtime. Now, the tips are somewhat of a loophole, but if you read the bill, it's only up to $10,000 a year that will be not taxed on tips. So, for example, you can't just create your entire income to be tips. It's up to $10,000 a year, which, by the way, a lot of people in waiters and waitresses make a ton of money as getting tip work and valet, so on and so forth. Please continue. Depending on where you're at, you're going to make more than $10,000 a year in tips. That's bull crap.

Yeah, no, that's – yeah, exactly. And so what part of the Big Beautiful Bill do you appreciate most? I appreciate that they are following through with President Trump's campaign promises. I wish there was – I wish instead of it being overtime, it was no tax on anything – on wage earners over $50 – over 40 hours because truck drivers and people like me are excluded from it. All of his campaign promises, the border bill and whatnot, I tend to be with Massey and Paul when it comes to reduction in spending, harder reduction in spending and harder reduction in the debt because I know I'm going to have to pay for that eventually,

and most of the people that are in office right now are going to be dead when that bill comes due. But I get that if Congress is passing the rescission bills, they're at least moving in that direction, so I'm willing to compromise and let them move. They're just moving too slow for my liking. So I have to brag on something. Do you know some of the smartest people in the country that get no credit? Truck drivers? No doubt. You guys listen to content all day long. The vocabulary you're using- 70 hours a week, two and a half times speed. No, no. So do you listen to many of the charlie

kirk show podcasts when you're doing cross-country uh drives so i listen to yourself um uh uh uh poso uh tim pool um uh the guy that took over for bongino i listened to jordan peterson jaco I listen to Jordan Peterson, Jocko Willink. I'm working on getting on to Jordan Peterson's actual courses that he put out. I'm working on getting on to Hillsdale. I've got over 100 things that I've – on audio. I don't talk for a living like you do. No, you're very eloquent. I wanted to say you are not the exception. You are the rule.

Truck drivers are some of the wisest. They're some of the most informed people because they're they're in the car all day long listening. When I get stopped for pictures, truck drivers like know every episode. They know everything. I mean, you're talking about rescissions. What part of the conservative base knows about rescissions? Like, I mean, we talk about that, but it's like a very part in primaries. Bingo. I'll tell you, there is more wisdom, knowledge, prudence with America's truck drivers than you will find in the Harvard faculty lounge.

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C-H-A-R-L-I-E forhillsdale.com. Okay. I think we have our friend here. Michael, Michael, are you worried about self-driving cars and automation displacing your job as a truck driver? So the short answer is no. The long answer is I could give you a three-hour lecture, but we don't have time for that. But let me break this down for you in the simplest terms possible. The automation is too slow. A good truck driver... What do you so the so the average person's reaction time is about one second a good truck driver has about half to a quarter of that i have to drive around i'm driving a 2025 peterbilt 579 i have to drive around the truck because the truck reacts so slow, I have to anticipate what the truck is going to do and put the inputs in before the traffic conditions are what they're going to be. So if I see – I'll use an example that most people have seen.

You're coming up to a cloverleaf intersection. I see a car coming down the cloverleaf. I know they're probably going to merge into me. So the truck doesn't see that yet. And most of your automated cars do not. I've been in a brand new Tesla. They do not see that yet. And I'm going to know because I'm a human and I have common sense and I have forethought that that car is going to be merging in. Now, I don't know if they're going to look. I don't know if they're going to signal. I don't know what they're going to do, but I know I need to be

getting off my cruise control and being ready to react before that car starts to signal that they're going to get into my lane. Automation's not there yet, and I haven't yet to see them being able to look that far ahead and that far out. That's so insightful. And the fact that, like, for my truck, the factory recommends an extra two to three seconds to kill cruise control and allow the truck to react to whatever next input I'm going to do. That's an eternity in an emergency. I'm telling you right now, it's an eternity in an emergency. I have had this truck buck so hard underneath me because I needed it to react faster than the computer wanted it to. And I just said, screw you, you're going to do this.

And it didn't like it. What? Yeah, no, really quick. And then we got to get the next call. What? to react faster than the computer wanted it to, and I just said, screw you, you're going to do this, and it didn't like it. Really quick, and then we've got to get the next call. So you drive 70 hours a week. What are the routes you usually drive? I have been to 47 of the lower 48 states. Name a route, I've been there. You sound like a really happy guy.

Do you enjoy your job? Love it. It's amazing. The only downside is trying to find a wife because they're just like, because I'm not home. And every single woman I've talked to is like, if you want me home, we've got to figure out what we're going to give up. Because I cannot make the same money home daily as I do being a long-haul truck driver. And that's not normally a very popular conversation. No, it's a very serious thing.

No, I know. I know a lot of long-haul truck drivers, and their family is in a tough spot because they've got to constantly be doing it. Honestly, I will say this. I want to meet you one day. We're going to mail you a signed hat. We should do a big thank you collectively in our country for one second for our long-haul truck drivers. You guys delivered us goods during the lockdowns. You guys are not thanked enough, and they are the most conservative Republican people in the country. Final thoughts, Michael. And I was actually, I was, you told some people earlier that you needed to, you told the first guy that called in, you needed to be likable to be a chapter president.

And I'm still not the most personable person there. So when I tried to start a chapter in IUPUI, it didn't go well. But me and you met way back when, and I'm still active. I'm just not as good at this as you are. Well, God bless you, man. We all have our role, and this is a beautiful testimony. Hope to see you soon. Thank you so much, man.

Jackson. Jackson is here. I like the name Jackson a lot. Jackson, what is on your mind? Members.CharlieKirk.com. Hello, Mr. Kirk. Hello again. Of course, I asked multiple questions on this, so I'm going to ask perhaps what's on the most on my mind right now.

But what do I do about some of my friends who are pro-Gaza and support illegal immigration? I mean, they claim that President Trump is violating due process. But I do know that the founders never intended for the Supreme Court to have the final say interpreting the Constitution. So I know it is not as powerful as everyone makes it out to be so you have friends that are pro-gaza if i can understand right and also kind of pro-open borders so what is the question how the how to convince them is that correct well yes i just want to be able to have a friendly debate with them if sorry i want to make sure i can have a friendly debate because without them calling me genocidal or Nazi or anything like that, because I know that because I have not debated them about this topic yet.

Yeah, it's it's difficult. I mean, look, they're going to the left resorts to name calling as a default setting in their argumentation. And in some ways, look, if they're going to call you Nazii and genocidal i would encourage you to get new friends if you are not able to talk about the same transcendent things with your friends then they're not actually your friends i know it might sound a little bit cruel but anyone that would like say oh you're supporting genocide like that's not a friend of yours they're they're indicting your character at that point right they're they're criticizing and assassinating who you are fundamentally as a person. And so you need to be respectful of other opinions. But once that kind of name-calling happens, I think it's time to sever.

Thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Sandy, thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Sandy, what's on your mind? Hello, sir. First, I just want to, based on some of the other callers, I just want to thank you for all that you are doing. Our youth minister Sunday night opened up his message with clips from your podcast. that he's getting that message into our youth. My first question, there's a Texas cop that is still suspended since 2021

based on a Biden era DA that was brought in. There was a BLM riot incident that occurred in 2020. He was found no wrongdoing by an internal police investigation, but he is still suspended. He cannot work overtime, you know, off-duty jobs or anything, which impacts his family's income. He's got a, you know, young family of three kids. And how do I raise awareness? And I would love to get the charges dropped on him. He's in limbo. He's hostage. What is his name? Chance Burgess. I sent links and information to y'all.

Chance Burgess? Austin Britches. Yeah, and what part of Texas was this in? I'm just taking a note. Austin, Texas. Alright, so we're going to take a look at that. Unfortunately it's nothing new where they go after police officers

that largely did nothing wrong. Let me ask you, though, when they played the clip of our show with your youth pastor, what were they playing? I'm curious, and how was that received? It was several of the, I would say far left students in these campuses asking questions, very provocative questions. And, you know, these were short clips because he did have a message to preach. But, you know, sharing, just giving our audience the idea, the feel of what's out there on our campuses, and then your work for what you're doing to combat that. Well, thank you. That is incredible, and I want to make sure I—do you like your church? Are they biblically based? They do a good job? Oh, absolutely. What is the name of the church? Spring Valley Baptist Church in Fort Worth. Spring Valley. Awesome. Well, I hope people

check it out. Truly. Well, thank you. God bless you. And thank you for being a member. Members.CharlieKirk.com. Deeply appreciate it. Thank you. I have a quick second question. Really quick. Yes. Just interesting on all these California riots that have started. Isn't it interesting that it was after college broke for summer? I mean, are these grandchildren of congressional Democrats needing summer jobs? I mean, are they getting extra credit for college grades? I mean, what? The timing is interesting to me. Very interesting. I'll tell you, though, that with all of this Iranian-Israeli activity,

expect serious pro-Hamas protests throughout the summer that will then intersect. Remember, we did an entire show on intersectionality. People should check it out. It will intersect with the open borders pro-Mexican crowd. And so that's going to happen. God bless you. And we're going to check out Chance's case. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Email us freedom at charliekirk.com. I want to hear from you. By the way, President Trump reports NBC. Trump says Iranian officials calling him to discuss situation. Yeah, I will say it was hilarious when President Trump was the U.S. was like, oh, yeah, we plan to meet with Iran on Sunday. Meanwhile, Iran's like completely decimated. And it's like mafioso tactics against Iran where, you know, Trump sits, the Trump envoy, Witkoff, sits down with Iran like, oh, what happened to your predecessor?

I hope he's OK. How's Tehran right now? They good? How's your nuclear facilities? Like, yeah, what is there? There's not much to negotiate. So I thought that was hilarious. TikTok has helped U.S. businesses

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Yes, I do think that we're going to see more indictments and more investigations. And I think that, look, they've been in for five months. I think we need to have a full release of the Epstein files. I've said that for quite some time. I think we need to start seeing some accountability. And there's a lot of material there of people that have acted improperly. We need to start to get some accountability. Before we get to the last question, Laura, I'm loving your emails right now.

Where do you stand with Israel-Iran, and if America was involved in the strike against Iran, how do you feel about that? Freedomatcharliekirk.com. That is freedomatcharliekirk.com. Okay, last question here. Laura, you are the last question of the week. Thank you for being a member at members.char Kirk dot com. What's on your mind? Can you hear me? Yes, I can. How are you? Hey, Charlie. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.

What a fantastic time we're living in. I cannot help it. I feel you when you're laughing. You're going. You love how, let's just say mafia style it was. I listened to you guys last night all the time. We're listening to a mirror. You know, the a mirror. What's his what the guy's name? A mirror. Everybody should be on his meat.

Sephardi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyhow, I also want to give you a couple of amazing things for you. OK. Yes, please. Before have always had the Lord before me. Because he is at my right hand, I shall not be shaken. So Charlie, tell me again what you think of all this amazing stuff. I follow you. I watch you. I have grandsons that watch you. They are, oh, I want to tell you about a church, though. Flatiron Church in Denver, Colorado.

Jim Bergen is the place. Check him out, everybody. My grandma, my son lives out there. And this guy is so amazing. On fire follows exactly your teaching. Let's just say he's got the same like mind of a ambassador for christ okay like we are yes so keep going sorry what is the question we got about a minute remaining yes i know i want to hurry up and also tell you about the pour over okay it is a newsletter that it's amazing it comes and it tells about the day's events and then it has an amazing thing afterwards that tells you the perspective of being a Christ. To what, what, what you, you know, all these events that are happening. It settles your mind.

Let me just give you a quick answer and then I got it. We got to dash. Okay. Keep your eyes on the scriptures. Watch people like Jack Hibbs. There's a lot going on right now and we're out of time. God bless you. Thank you so much.

Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.