The Chaser Report - Apple's Biggest Fold Yet

Episode Date: June 9, 2026

Today on the Chaser Report we put AI to the test by asking it the question on everybody's lips: how much should you be paying for math tutoring? Plus Charles still really wants to talk about SpaceX, but doesn't.---Listen AD FREE: https://thechaserreport.supercast.com/ Follow us on Instagram: @chaserwarSpam Dom's socials: @dom_knightSend Charles voicemails: @charlesfirthEmail us: [e-mail] CEO’s Super-yacht upgrade Fund: https://chaser.com.au/support/ Send complaints to: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chaser Report is recorded on Gattigall Land. Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chaser Report. Hello and welcome to a very special edition of The Chaser Report. Hello, Charles. What's going to be special about this edition of The Chaser Report? I missed the briefing. Well, I was just complaining to you because if you ever try and search for a message on your Apple phone... Oh, yes, yes, yes.

what happens is when you find the message, like it'll find a message, say you're searching for something specific that you've said, and then you tap on that message, guess what happens? Like, do you think that maybe you go to that message in the Messages app? You'd think so. Or you think it'd take you straight to the message? Yeah, so no, what it does instead.

And I think this is a very clever feature and really highlights Apple in 2026, is it takes you to the most recent message that you've had with that person. Oh, right. So you can't just search for a message and then find the message. That is not how it works. Instead, you get to see whatever the last message is. So if you're searching for something that, say, you asked your wife two months ago, and then you know the answer to the question, but you don't know what the question was,

which is what happened to me, I can't find out the question because the scrolls through, like, literally about a billion text messages, all of which are very loving and everything like that, because I can't search for it. I can't fucking search it because Apple is so shit at everything they try. Excuse me. Excuse me. That's, that's in the, you're using the present tense. You should be using the past tense.

Oh, really? Why? Because today is a day when Apple explained that everything's going to be okay. Right, right now? No, but like, so it's all fixed. It's all fixed. No, no, no. No, it will be fixed.

It will be. So it's, it's all fine at some point in the Fisher. I mean, to be fair, you should probably use the feature again. It's not the present. But today, present tense is the day when Apple announced it was all going to be great. We've got to get into this after this. So, Charles, you might recall, I think it was about two years ago that Apple announced a thing called Apple intelligence. Yes, AI, you know it?

AI. But it's not AI, it's Apple intelligence. Right, yes. And there were some major differences with... And is Apple intelligence denoted by its lack of intelligence? I mean, you might recall the thing that you're asking for. there. Yes.

He's a thing which Apple refers to as personal context. So it understands who you are, what you're doing. No. No. No. No. No, Dom. That's not.

No. It was a very, it was a simple string search. It's been around since the 1980s. Oh, no. It's not going to be able to do that. But you can ask it, what was that thing I was texting with my wife about?

Oh, I see. And it will surface. It won't surface the message. It'll serve it. Right. So, because the question was how much, the question I wanted to know. the answer to was, how much do we pay for maths tutoring?

Oh, right. And I knew the sum, but I didn't, I could remember the sum. This shows how my brain works. I could remember the sum, but I couldn't remember what that was for, right? So I was searching for the sum. It's a very stupid thing. But so what you're saying is I could just say, how much do we pay for maths tutoring? And it would just suddenly know because it could read all the text messages.

So two years ago, Apple announced the original Apple intelligence. just going to have this personal context, whereby Siri and the other things could actually just search through all the stuff on your phone and know what you're doing and just basically you could use it in a really clever and modern way. Like, for instance, an Android phone. You could use an iPhone, the way that an Android phone works now. Yes, right. Okay.

Wow. That was two years ago. Yeah, that was two years ago. And they said it's coming later in the year. Yeah, great. It didn't come later in 2024. No. 2025, you might recall, had no progress towards that.

But it did have. And they also sort of. passive-aggressively stopped kind of mentioning it. Yeah, it was on billboards is all these features. It was, it was for a little while, and then it sort of... Yeah. And then they didn't really address it at all last year, either. They just sort of, it was like that embarrassed thing where you announced that you're going

to get divorced or something, and then you don't. You don't. Well, you just don't give you no further update. No one can ever sort of mention it. No further updates. It doesn't come up again. It's just too embarrassing. And look, the beauty, the beauty of it was, it would always, it would always.

all be on device, very private. And they did that. They delivered all these AI tools that work on your device that don't go to the cloud, that anonymize what you're doing in a way that other AI doesn't. The thing that they left out, the security functions are brilliant. They're really impressive. It's just a bit where it actually can do anything that doesn't work. They did invent a thing called Image Playground, which makes you to generate a really

terrible image. Yes, we, my son and I had fun with that for about three minutes. Yeah. And then we decided that chat GPT was a lot better. Yeah. And there is a thing at the moment on the iPhone where it can go and use chat chitpity to search for the most simple things. And it does that in a sort of private iteration of chat GPT. Right.

But Apple have announced just today at their worldwide developer conference. Yes. They have fixed this. And do you know how they've done it? They just Googled how to do it properly? Basically. They bought Google's model. They just went out and bought Google.

Yeah. See, I'd like to be that rich. I'd like to be able to just go, I'm going to buy, you know, I can't find out how much math tutoring is. I'm just going to buy math tutoring. So what they've done is, I mean, some people would think that it was a good thing to have competition between two different, like the two major companies that develop phones, right? Yes. But that's not what we have. What we have is Google paying Apple a huge amount of money per year, billions.

They pay Apple billions per year to be the default. $23 billion, I think it was. It would be the default search option on iPhones. Yes. And what we now have is that Apple's gone, yeah, look, actually, we can't develop AI. We suck at AI. Yeah. So we're going to do a deal not with chat chip you tea anymore with Gemini.

Yeah. And they've actually bought Gemini's models. Which is Google Gemini. Yeah, Google Gemini. So they bought Google's model. And there was a bit of confusion about this. People thought it was going to use Google the same way that an Android phone does. But that's not what they've done.

They've actually used the Gemini model, done their own version of it. apparently, and they're running it in their own sort of secure environment. So it doesn't remember all your details. Right. And so does it also just not be able to find anything? Yeah, potentially. This is what needs to be tested. Did they run it on their own servers and then suddenly it just, they ran it for the first

time and then it just went, I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. Here are some web results. I'm not sure whether the reason why it can't return. So I really find creepy the way that chat, Chipit or Gemini or whatever, will go. here are some options in like wherever you live. Or remember that conversation where you said you were miserable three weeks ago, here are some things that it just retains all of your context. The new version won't do that, but I don't know.

But isn't that the whole point of AI is to know your context? The whole point is that it's custom. This is Apple just once again sort of not realizing that, oh, search involves searching for something or, you know, having AI involves having some modicum of context and intelligence so that you can actually ask it things. Because what it'll do is, I can tell you now what it'll do, is it'll say things like, oh, how do you, I don't know, how do I get to, you know, work or something like that?

And it'll go, hi, you know, like, here, thanks, you know, going to work is a great activity. You know, like, do you want to go to Cupertino? That's the default work. You know what I mean? Like, it's just going to be so shit. I'm happy for it not to basically without, like, the, The point that they made.

What's the advantage of having no context? So the point that they made is... It's only one use case where you go, oh, that's great. It doesn't know anything about me. I've got this terrible burning sensation in my groin. But Google already knows all that stuff about me. But it can do that based on, you know, you can do a temporary chat. And anyway, Google is definitely going to know that about you anyway,

because you'll look it up on Siri. Siri won't work and then you'll have to go to Google anyway. So that's certainly impossibility. The point that they're making, is it will be able, it will know all those things about you, but it will, the context that it will get is what's on your phone.

So it will be able to access whatever is on your phone without putting it in the cloud, like in a private way. So it'll be able to go through your messages and it will know where you live, it'll know all the stuff already from what's on your phone. Yeah. But it won't build like a cloud,

creepy profile with Google. In the cloud. In the way that Google and chatch epit, by default, surveil you and contain your information. Okay, so that, okay, I see what you mean. So the context is kept at the local level. Yeah, he's kept to the local level.

And they're saying that's the big advantage. Wow. Okay. The Chaser report, news a few days after it happens. But the big question is, will it actually work? Well, there's two questions. Will it work? And also, will it fuck your battery life?

Like, you know how if you get to 30 questions in Claude? I don't know whether it's like what it's like in Chachia but the whole point is that the main energy consumption, besides actually making it into English, is keeping the context of the conversation going. Oh, really? Yeah. So if you ask it something quite complex, chat jeb-tie, in a fresh window, something quite complex, like, you know, how much do we pay our Massachusetts?

Right. But it's the first thing, it will, no matter what that question is, even if it's like, explain to me quantum physics, the actual energy use will be quite low. If you then keep asking it questions in the same window. Oh, it uses more and more memory. It'll use more and more memory because it's retaining all that context all the way through. So the 30th question, even if the 30th question is something like what's 2 plus 2. It's so hard to keep up with what you told me before.

It also has to at the same time, you know, calculate all the quantum mechanics as well. You know what's quite good is the human brain. You can do that with that. So you're telling me. Although we do need to sleep. That's a shortcoming, I know. That must be why the new iPhone 18 has up to one hour's battery life. No, but look.

Yeah, up to one hour. I'm very confident that this won't work, right? So the only question that people will be asking is, where can I find a charger in me? Yes, that's right. Where's the charger near me? But nevertheless, they are at least two years late trying to do this. And it's also very clear, by the way, from the developer conference, that they are going to do the iPhone fold, which everyone's rumoring.

Oh, wow. A foldable iPhone. Why do we know that from the conference? Apparently it's in the code. Something that they've released. I don't know where it is. But basically, yeah, and it'll be kind of like an iPad mini that folds in half. That's the rumor.

And so the question for me is, when will Apple fold on wanting to do AI? AI. Well, it's quite funny that they've turned their lack of success into a feature. So privacy obsessively. Yeah, it's right. Yeah, it doesn't know anything about. anything. Welcome to Apple Intelligence. Privacy first. And you know that guy with the good hair, Craig Federico, I've just been watching him going on. He could convince anyone of anything, I think.

Because you would. You would confess your sins to Siri, knowing that no one could ever find out anything about it. Yeah. Hey, Siri, where's the message where I completely, uh, admit something incredibly embarrassing that means no one will listen to the podcast anymore. Devi I said, oh wait, why was I thinking of Broadway? That's the last text. Oh, God. It's so shit. That my wife just said me. That's so funny.

But I feel like, you know how there's been leaps and bounds in technology over the last 30 or 40 years? Not everywhere. Not everywhere. But when that happens, it leads to a sort of further intensification of work and emisseration of the working classes. Yes. And don't you think that in some ways Apple is being quite socialist in its approach? By making their stuff less and less improved every year. By halting the march of technology that is going to enslave us all eventually.

No, they're doing a very good job. They've also made, the thing that I find most surprisingly about Apple, I think they're actually getting desperate. They actually made an affordable laptop. Yes, it's just the MacBook Neo. I mean, this is just, I think it's a cry for help. Yes, you're right. What's going on?

Maybe they ask Apple intelligence what the next strategic move for the company should be. And they just gave them some web results And they just Dispaired So Dom For the last couple of days I've been wanting to Talk about SpaceX

Right And I know that we're out of time today You keep talking about SpaceX's IPO? Yeah, IPO It's happening this week Is it really? Essentially

Elon Musk is about to It's like the world's biggest He's about to become a trillionaire Yeah, He's about to become a trillionaire And SpaceX is about to raise $75 billion from essentially, 30% of that's going to be from retail investors, i.e. mum and dads.

Are you going to put all the Wankanomics profits into SpaceX? I honestly think you should. It would be the most fitting thing to do with that money. But the funny thing is that I sincerely believe, if not now, then at some point in the future, it will become known as the greatest heist ever. that the moment that one man stole a huge amount of wealth from an entire population, right? So I really, more than he has already. I think we need to talk about that tomorrow or something like that, like on the podcast.

I think we want to do a special edition. Let's see if GROC thinks I should invest in SpaceX. Oh, that's a good idea. No. No. He says no, yeah. No, you probably shouldn't rush in as a primary investment, but it could be an exciting, high-risk, high-reward opportunity worth a small allocation

for some investors, depending on your risk tolerance, timeline and diversification. That makes me want to invest in SpaceX. It's a classic Rugport. Tomorrow, I want to actually go through all the different ways in which the market is being manipulated and just do a bit of a deep dive because I feel like, you know, remember the Titan submersible? Oh. Where we actually went through and very early on called a whole lot of things and actually

got it quite right. You did. I didn't. Yeah, that was your one. I feel like this is another tight and submersible moment. I mean, it says here it's a speculative moonshot. Yes. And that's an AI talking.

That's a very good time as well. So I don't know that I want to invest in SpaceX. What does Siri? Does Siri think that you should invest in SAI? Ask Siri. Should I invest in SpaceX's IPO? Ask Chat Chip-T. It's not confident answering it itself.

You've actually got your phone set up probably, haven't you? I haven't installed any of these things. It says that the value, investing in SpaceX's upcoming IPO carry significant risks. Oh my God, this is so boring, boring. It says no, it says it's too risky. Okay, well, I think that not everyone's going to, like I think what we're going to see probably tomorrow or Friday is that a lot of people are ignoring that sort of advice. Let me just put my money into it right now. I don't have much spare money.

What? I might put 50 bucks anyway. Okay. Okay, we're going to leave before this, well, before Dom goes broke. We're part of the Aconocles network. We'll catch you tomorrow.