The Chaser Report - Dawn of the Enshittocene

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Last year we were awfully fascinated with the "enshittification" of everything. Turns out, we were so right that the person who coined the term believes humanity is now entering the "enshittocene". Ho...sted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Chaser Report is recorded on Gatigle Land. Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chaser Report. Hello, and welcome to The Chaser Report. It's Dom here. I'm sorry, it's another replay today. However, I have lined up a lot of great stuff for later in the week. Andrew Hansen's back to look back on the raw dogging challenge we set you last week. We've got a lot of emails about it.
Starting point is 00:00:21 No one has claimed to have listened to the entire thing and said it's a video, although some of you did say you went to sleep, listening to that episode, which I find entirely plausible. So Andrew's back, I think, tomorrow, and then later in the week we'll take a good look at the DNC with some of our favourite US politics experts, as Joe Biden says farewell and Kamala Harris tries to step up to the plate. Today, we're going to do one of those things where we gloat about being rice. I'm sorry, it's annoying, but I'm quite proud of this one. I guess when you do a daily podcast, it stands to reason that occasionally you're going to get with a trend somewhat.
Starting point is 00:00:55 And this is all about insidification, a theory invented by Corey Docky, last year, whereby he's talking about platforms like Facebook and Snapchat and Instagram and whatever. And his theory was that they start by being good to their users and giving a good experience. Then they're good to the businesses who pay them, so their advertisers, to the expense of users. But then they're bad to their advertisers as well as their users and try and capture all the value for themselves. He says that all platforms basically decline in this manner over time and he called it inshittification. They'd become crapper over time. It seemed pretty good to us. But we said in October last year, hang on, Corey.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Isn't that happening with everything? With everything. Everything's turning shit over time. Nothing is good anymore. And here's the thing. Cory Dr. O actually wrote an article this year after our podcast arguing that we were entering the inshitter scene, the period where everything becomes crap. We kind of man it as partly a satirical joke. He's arguing it more seriously. However, I'm a still claiming that we got to it first. Everything is turning crap. That's the subject of today's podcast, looking back at our argument about that, the inshittification of everything, but also our campaign to get inshitify into the dictionary. And while it might not be in the Macquarie dictionary yet, it is in Wikipedia. And it was, according to the American Dialect Society,
Starting point is 00:02:17 the word of the year in 2023. So I'm going to claim that as a win as well. Did we have anything to do with any of that? Yeah, probably not. However, that's never stopped us from claiming victories before. Let's claim this one. I'm starting to miss Charles a little bit. I don't know whether you are. If you're missing Charles, send him an email and me as well, podcast at chaser.com.com. Tell him to come back, the lazy side. I'm expecting him back early next month. Anyway, let's look back on how everything is turning crap, a common theme of this podcast, and indeed the shittification of everything. It all kicks off after this ad. Dom, I've got a bit of a task for us and all the listeners. Oh, great, okay. You're putting us
Starting point is 00:02:55 to work. Yes, because the listener emailed us actually a few weeks ago, but I've only just read the email. And it turns out that one of the words that we use on a podcast back in August, which was we were talking about the inshittification of Twitter. Oh, that's right. And then we extended it to the incitification of everything. It was one of those bleak episodes that we tend to specialize in here at the Chaser
Starting point is 00:03:16 Report. Yeah. So that had such a profound impact on one of our listeners that he then immediately emailed the Macquarie Dictionary. and said, you need to put incidification into your dictionary. It's such a great word. That's such a great accolade. Yeah, it's a cultural moment.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It needs to be codified in the dictionary. And they wrote back and said, look, we note that the word insidification was not in fact invented by the chaser, but in fact by Corey Docterone. Yes, the fantastic, I don't even know what you call him writer and kind of internet theorist. But they said outside of Corey and the chaser, we can't find a single reference to the term in shittification. They'll put it on their watch list, and if over the next 12 months it starts being used more, then they'll put it in their dictionary.
Starting point is 00:04:02 This is the kind of challenge we can get behind. I think this is the insidification of a nation. And it's worth noting, Charles, that Cori Doctro, when he originally used the term, he used it about that exact thing, which is why I enjoyed it so much and brought it to the table, about how Twitter and other social networks, in fact, become shit over time. It's like a basic process that over time, they just become. terrible. Every social network I've ever joined has become terrible with the passing of time, except Instagram, which was terrible when it began, I feel. But yeah, it's just a thing that
Starting point is 00:04:32 happened. Well, it's not just a thing that happens. I read his article this morning. What his actual point is, is that actually, in shittifying, actually happens to platforms when you yourself, the user, is actually the product. And his point is that if the platform is merely just trading your eyeballs for advertisers or sellers or whatever it is. So he uses both the example of TikTok or Twitter or things of that, but he also uses the example of Amazon, right, and says, well, they've built up this amazing platform where they subsidised everything to get everyone on there.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And then they're just trading the eyeballs to make huge amounts of money off you, right? Just as a footnote, this is actually a theory that I've come across before. That Amazon is not actually just a buying and selling platform. It's a social network for what humans are interested in. And so they have the best data of anyone on the planet about what people want. Yeah. That's so valuable to them that they sell things at a discount to get it.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Oh, and they treat their work as abominably as well. So if the user themselves are the product that are being sold, then eventually every corporate capitalist enterprise will just go, okay, how can we make it more and more worse for the user to juice our profits, right? Yeah. So that's the incitification principle. But I think that we can actually widen the use of this term. Yes, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Because what it's referring to essentially is monopolistic control of things, right? So it doesn't just apply to social networks, can also apply to things like political party. If you look at the Australian political system, you go, the insidification of Australian politics is entirely bound up in the fact that there is a sort of duopoly effect where you've got the coalition or the labour. There really is only two choices. And there's a sort of lock-in thing where you've got to go with one or the other. Both sides know that, and so insidification ensues. You see what I mean? I think that's a shot article, Charles.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I really do, the shot.net.com. But no, but you're quite right. And the point is, you see this from Labor all the time, they can take 80% of their base for granted. Yes. Because they've got no rules to go. They don't want to go to the Greens. I can just imagine Greens, people like Tom Ballard going,
Starting point is 00:06:42 oh, what about the Greens? They're so pure. They can afford to be pure because they don't have to win government, right? Yeah. And so basically, built into Labor's business model now, is disappointing 80% of their supporters to go after the people in the marginal seats. To inshitify their product
Starting point is 00:06:56 to actually thrive. Because they don't need those voters anymore so they can just abandon them and have a shit product that isn't going to completely... And this is why Kevin Rudd was so successful. Because Kevin Rudd's version of anything... Like, he's an inshitification machine. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:10 I mean, when he was leader, the thing immediately became far duller just by his involvement. Insidification personified. He is, he is. But very successfully so. But it's not just politics, right? So you can then look at, say, mobile phone networks, right?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Oh, wow. Charles, you've really thought about this. And so, you know, we had 3G and 4G. And in actual fact, for a while, there wasn't just the three major players, but there were always those sort of little bit players. Yeah, there was orange and three and various other little players. And then there was sort of like one tell. And some of them were just...
Starting point is 00:07:43 One tell. One tell was born and shitified. It was like, that was Lachlan Murdoch and James Packer's big attempt to show that they could do better with the technology stuff than their daddy's good. They could not, my friends. But then, you know, TPG bought out I-I-Net and Vodafone. And that's all just one company. And Vodafone had already bought out three, who were the only innovative people.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And then they did a deal with Telstra over the rural network. So essentially, that's all a lock. So it's basically two things. And then Optus is the shittest network anyway. Oh. I know, Optus, the people who sell my details on the dark web. I mean, you know, that was an amazing piece of incitification. I mean, Optus is just shorthand.
Starting point is 00:08:25 In fact, that should be in the McCory dictionary for just like shit. Surely the word floptis is in there, because I really enjoyed that during when they had the World Cup rights for soccer. Anyway, point is that, again, we've reached the situation where 5G has come along. And instead of actually building networks that actually give you data, which is what 5G, promised, they've gone, we don't have to anymore because there's a sort of monopoly going on. Yeah. We can just insidify our product.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It is amazing how, because I've had a 5G phone for a year. It's amazing how totally indistinguishable it is from the regular 4G. Except anything it takes longer to connect. There's more black spots everywhere. And they've tried to lure everyone from the NBN onto 5G, which we've done at home now. We've got 5G at home. Oh, really? And it is much faster once it's actually connected.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But it's cheaper. And so they've gone. we've got so much 5G, we can load everyone's home internet onto it as well, which of course they can't. So it's absolutely groaning. So you're the reason why new our house for 5G shit. Yeah, that's tough. But Charles, there's another example as well. There's an obvious example of this, which is possibly the most inshittified inshittification of all the inshittification burgers we've ever inshittify. Are we talking supermarkets? We can soon. Coles and Woolworths? No, no, there's an even worse one. Okay. Charles, you know what it is.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Oh, the chaser? The chaser and the batuta, right. Because the shovel is actually really. good. Have you know how good to travel this, buddy? No, Charles, it's airlines. Airlines. The airlines are the worst gerophily. Of course. You're right. Yes. You and I spent hours with Virgin last year. I had to miss Halloween because Virgin fucked it up. And Qantas is, I mean, Quonis is so inshitified. It's astonishing Kevin Rudd's not on their board. It is the optus of airline. I think optus would sue us over that description. Quantis is now shorthand for, used to be great. Now fuck them, right? Well, the insidification Maybe they should have a Qantas logo in their definition of the incitification.
Starting point is 00:10:21 You can bring out your Qantas logo that you made. That would work. But the reason why I sort of say there's a whole lot of places that we can talk about in shittification. Tell us what that reason is after this. The Chaser Report, news you can't trust. Well, the reason why I want to sort of expand the definition of incitification. One simple reason, which is to get this word in the Macquarie. Dictionary. Of course. We need this word to be, oh, you know who we need. You know who we, we need to appoint an
Starting point is 00:10:52 official incitification ambassador. I is. I've got to, there's only one person. Who, Charles, who in Australian public life, symbolizes things progressively getting worse and worse and more and more disappointing under the point of absolute disgust. And he's also on the public record, according to a very amusing story, having shat himself in a public place. I'm talking about, about Scott Scott Morrison. Scott Morrison is the official ambassador of inshittification. Of inshittification. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:23 We should, there should be a t-shirt. It was Como giving two thumbs up and just going, insidify this. I mean, because who knew? Who knew you could even swear yourself into 10 ministries at once until he did it? No, yes. He found a way to make, you know. To monopolize ministries. He ran a duopoly with himself, basically.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Yeah, okay. Yep. I think he'd be up for. He hasn't got a lot on. No. He's the member for Cook. Yes. He's got his book.
Starting point is 00:11:46 He's got his book about his walk with Jesus, which I think he'll still have some time on his hands after that. Yeah, I think he'd be up for it. Because the one thing that he's really made his own. Like, if we're looking back on his time as Prime Minister, we should write to him. Let's write to him. Dear Scott Morrison, we're trying to promote the word inshittification as, and get it into the Macquarie Dictionary, and we felt you'd be perfectly poised to assist us with this task.
Starting point is 00:12:10 We can even talk about the inshittification era, if you like, between when was it, 2018 and 2022. So I think the thing is, what we need is for everyone who's listening to, on social networks, just slip the word in chittification into their vocabulary. And at Scott Morrison as well. And it doesn't matter what you're talking about. Yeah, it's just sheer heft. We just need enough people. And it needs to be a sort of broad enough sample size of users of the word. Like, I think the whole one is, we've done our heavy lifting. Yeah, you've got to use it in lots different contexts as well, like not just the ones we've listed here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Like, um, you could have had a bad day and say, well, I'm inshittified. Yeah. But also, it can be like the inshittification of your workplace. Yes. It could just simply be the arrival of your new boss or the arrival of your current boss. Yeah, that's right. But most workplaces probably can be described in those terms. What will be really helpful as well, and I don't know if anyone's up for this, but maybe
Starting point is 00:13:09 they should be, if there are any academics out there, writing academic papers. Oh, yes. You should be using the words. You put it in the title of your paper. Yes. That's a really, I mean, admittedly, it might, you mightn't do as well in the paper. But I just think, particularly if you're writing a book or something, I mean, shouldn't the next chase down you'll be called the inshittification principle or something?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yes, yes, we can totally do that. Maybe we need a side book. Do you think we could register inshittification.com? I think so. Trade market. Maybe we should get inshidification as a concept. Enshittify this. Insidify this.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Would be a great book. That would be. And also a great, and a movie with Billy Crystal and Robert Disney. We've also got to get it into Hansard. Yes, it's got to get into Hansard. I'm thinking the grains are probably the way to get it in. Because we can write to Scott Morrison, try and get him to slip it in. But don't you think that...
Starting point is 00:13:57 That sounds so gross. It sounds unparliamentary, doesn't it? Yes, it does. But that's... So we need a... We need a radical... You know who'd do it. Oh, Jackie Lambie!
Starting point is 00:14:05 Jackie Lambie! Jackie Lambie! I was thinking of Bob Catter, actually. Oh, Bob Catter! Yes! One of the two of them. Oh, God, yes. Because they've got nothing to lose. They're mavericks. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Just get a maverrorox. Yes. Just get a maverick on it, it'll get done. AI? Can we train a chat bot to... Can someone write an entire novel using the word a lot, which the AI then plagiarises? That'll be very helpful.
Starting point is 00:14:23 We're going to get it out there. It's going to... The snowball is going to be released where you're getting in shittification into public life. And don't tell anyone that we asked you to, because that won't count for the Macquarie Dixon. Off the back of this and a couple of other things that have shown up during the week, what I have done this morning, Dom, is I set up a Chase a Report blog. Have you?
Starting point is 00:14:43 Yes, just on the Chaser website. Right. The idea is that we'll just occasionally update it from time to time. Whenever something comes up that perhaps it's mainly to do with gloating, right, but I think it will be also a great place to sort of slip the word incitification all the time in. So it's going to be available at chaser.com.com. But it's, I haven't published it yet. I thought it was going to be chaser.com.com.com slash insidification.
Starting point is 00:15:08 But it's a bit hard. You've got to work out whether it's one or two T's is one question. It's not actually live yet because I just wrote the first. So insidification, the official spelling of it is with double T, by the way. Yeah, okay. Also known as platform decay. Oh, right, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:23 Oh, there you go. It's a form of rent seeker. Yes. We could use some money to help us pay the rent, actually. So the incitification of the train system would be about the platforms getting worse and worse. Did it? No. Yeah, in public transport, it's probably a very good example.
Starting point is 00:15:38 The insidification. But, no, no, so I've set up this blog. Check it out. If you go to chaser.com.com.com.com and just click on the menu, you'll be able to see where it is. And the whole idea is it's mainly set up there to gloat. Yeah, sure. And so, for example, earlier in the week, we talked about, well, we came up with the solution for the Middle East crisis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Which obviously was to transmit the Israeli flag onto Sydney Town Hall. Wasn't that influential? It was very influential because then the next day, so Clovermore scotch the idea. She stopped the idea. She stopped peace in the Middle East. And we came out and we slammed her for it, didn't we? Slammed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 That was heard in Tel Aviv, Charles. And then, yes, exactly, because a day later, the Israeli military also came out against Clovermore. So, you know, if you're wanting to listen to, you know, a podcast that sets the agenda, then you should probably download the Daily, which the New York Times says. But you could also listen to the Chase Report. And on this blog, we'll be able to, because I was pointing out, like, the first entry on the blog, A point out all the times where we've been ahead of the news.
Starting point is 00:16:42 We've set the agenda. And it's because the world is so satirical that if you describe things in satirical terms, then it usually turns out to be true later on. We're just always making a satirical exaggeration of things, which turns out to be what actually happens. Charles, I love the fact. I love the fact that while they're on the verge of full-scale ground walk, can we just note, while there are hostages who have been taken,
Starting point is 00:17:03 and it's basically a huge national emergency in Israel, and IDF spokesman had the time to go on Australian radio. and slam clover more. Yeah, I know. Fantastic. Well, you know, it's eye on the prize. What matters? Hearts and minds, Charles.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, exactly. Hearts and minds. All right, so help us chronicle the incitification of everything. Yes. And it glows on our blog. But my plan is for the blog to essentially take over the internet and become its own platform. At which point, we will be able to insidivite. Charles, this is the least worst idea you've had in a long time.
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