The Chaser Report - Descendants of Migrants Protest Migrants

Episode Date: September 1, 2025

Dom and Charles struggle to understand the worldview of the recent "Anti-Immigration" protesters who marched over the weekend. Meanwhile, nobody believes Charles when he says Australia isn't a socialist paradise, and Dom doesn't know what to do with the black clothes in his wardrobe.---Buy the Wankernomics book: https://wankernomics.com/bookListen AD FREE: https://thechaserreport.supercast.com/ Follow us on Instagram: @chaserwarSpam Dom's socials: @dom_knightSend Charles voicemails: @charlesfirthEmail us: [e-mail] CEO’s Super-yacht upgrade Fund: https://chaser.com.au/support/ Send complaints to: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chaser Report is recorded on Gadigal Land. Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chaser Report. Hello and welcome back to The Chaser Report with Dom and Charles. Sort of daily again. Charles, welcome back to Australia. Briefly, your home away from home, as we now must call it, I suppose. Well, I like to think of myself now as a bit of a global citizen. Really? Yeah. That's very out of date in 2025 in this time of heightened nationalism and scepticism towards immigration.

Tell us, are you not worried you'll be seen as a migrant? Well, but I think migrants have the upper hand. Have you not seen the news from the weekend? What happened on the weekend? Well, it was a bunch of migrants went for a march all around the capital cities of Australia. Really? Demanding that they be immediately deported.

It was a very strange, I don't still quite understand it, but there were all these white immigrants, or people from immigrant backgrounds, is probably the more politically correct way of saying it. His ancestors came here on a boat. On boats. Oh, yeah. On planes.

And they're all saying, get out of here. Get out of here. But it was like in reference to migrants. Like it was in reference to their own people. So they obviously are a bit sick of Australia. Maybe they feel like Australia is becoming a bit of a cesspool of racism or something. Really? And they want to get out while the going's good.

You know, well, they still can. So I'm very. You're very of the moment. I'm very of the moment. But I do think that they're on. something. And I know that there's a lot of, you know, if you read the left liberal media Dom, in the Guardian, the Herald today, it's all about how, you know, these people don't have a point and, you know, they're terrible people and all that sort of stuff. But I think

they've got a point. I tend to agree that they as sort of people from a migrant background who clearly want to stoke hatred in this society should leave. I feel like they're on the right Gist. Let's take some ads and then we can ponder what happened. Thank you for your patience. Your call is important. Can't take being on hold anymore. FIS is 100% online so you can make the switch in minutes. Mobile plans start at $15 a month. Certain conditions apply. Details at fizz.ca. So it was an interesting one, Charles. There was a bit of dissent in the Franks, at least at the one in Sydney, apparently.

Oh, yeah. Where apparently it crossed the line for some people when actual Nazis took to the stage and people were telling them to leave. So there was just dissent. It is interesting how, you know, when you see a whole lot of Australian flags now, you do go, that's probably a Nazi rally, isn't it?

Like, isn't that? Because you'd think it would be German flags or something, wouldn't you? Or swastikers, right? Which is, of course, as we know, a traditional symbol of Hinduism, which seems ironic. I don't know. I think everyone who wants to, I mean,

maybe that's why they... I think anyone who wants to have a swastika flag does need to fill out a Q&A on where the symbol actually came from. Yeah, because I think actually several of the states have banned the swastika flag. They have, yeah. So maybe that's why the Australian flag has become such a sort of ready replacement. But it's quite funny, isn't it? Because it's like you really do know.

You know when you see a protest march and there's just a sea of Australian. flags. You know, it's like, they're going to be Nazis, aren't they? There's going to be Nazis there. Well, I mean, just looking here at the, the neo-Nazis tried to march down King Street.

Newtown, they went down, all in black outfits. You can see them there. Actually, that guy looks a bit like a Newtown hipster. That would have been confusing. But maybe that's why they got dressed in black because they knew they were going through Newtown.

There's a group called NSN National Socialist Network. It's a very odd name. Because you wouldn't want anyone to mistake you for MSN, would you? Yeah. Yeah, they went, so they're proud to be a racist. National socialist. Are you neo-Nazis? Yes, we're national socialists.

Yeah. So, yeah, look, so, I mean, the point where at your rally there are people who are open Nazis, I mean, some would view it as pause for thought. It doesn't feel like a sort of family day out, does it? It's not like, let's bring the kids to the Nazis. Well, I'm sure they would beg to disagree. But no, look, I mean, it's certainly, yeah, going to Newtown and the police came out. But, Dom, let's just get to the message, right, which is that people of an immigrant background should leave Australia, right?

Like, is this the triumph of the voice, finally, in 2025? Like, isn't this just playing into the hands of Indigenous people? Like, are we not worried that actually this means this could mean that everyone, not just the Nazis have to leave Australia, but everyone else. So you're saying that if they get their way, they have sold. will be kicked out of the country because they come from migrant backgrounds. They're definitely from migrant backgrounds. Well, they've said that they're white. They're very clear about being white in this summer.

Exactly. And white people did not exist in this country until 1788. They are clearly migrants. And look, I'm just saying that from looking at them, you can tell from looking at them that they are migrants. And I mean, the other thing is, of course, if people do DNA tests, almost no one is just one thing and they might get a rude shock. So, in essence, you're saying that everyone from the Israelis should have just headed

straight to the airports. Where should they have gone back to their countries of origin? Well, I think they should probably head to their seaports because a lot of these people would have come across on boats. Some tall ships should be brought back into... With some scurvy, perhaps. And in actual fact, I think that they'll find a welcome committee back in England because having just been in England,

there's not a day goes by where there isn't some sort of far-right racist rally there. I want to ask you about that, because reform, I mean, this is really... I mean, Pauline Hanson was at some of these rallies. But in terms of actually having a political movement, the UK is... Extraordinary. It's far more advanced. I mean, there's a very, very diverse parliament in terms of particularly the Tories, as we know. Yes.

And the Labour, Lord Mayor of London. Yes. But, yeah, the reform looks like being the next party government. Absolutely. So what has happened is Nigel Farage has really just taken his talking point directly from John Howard, circa 2003, right? And his talking point is basically that there's lots of boat people. coming into England, right? Now, if you look at the stats, it's very similar to what happened in the early 2000s in

Australia, which is like it's not more than there have been previously. There's just a steady stream of, you know, people who come across on boats from France. And that has been the case for many years. In fact, I bumped into somebody up in Edinburgh who had made that exact journey from South Sudan up, you know, across a ferry into Italy. and then through mainland Europe to France and then came across in a shipping container very dangerously across the English channel.

I do find this a bit baffling, Charles. Maybe you can, having just been there, maybe you can illuminate it for me. I am the descendant of entirely British people as far as I know. It may not be the case. I haven't done the DNA test. Well, you should go home.

As far as I know, my ancestors are all British. But the idea of being forced to go to Britain where I've spent two years of my life horrifies me. I can't think of anywhere worse. It's like being transported. I mean, it would be like... It was very strange, because when I was at primary school there, I was being beaten up. And I don't know if it was my personality, but they said it was because I was Australian.

And they didn't say... The fact that I was actually British myself in terms of... Like, I could have had a passport if I'd wanted one, but I didn't want one. No. They seemed not to accept the point that I was actually as British as they were. So it was very odd. But it certainly reduced my enthusiasm for Britain, as did. did the weather, as did the culture, as did just about everything.

But Charles, why, why, Charles, why would anybody, and I know a lot of people do this, get on a boat from France to Britain or from Italy? The croissons are too fresh here. I must leave this country, this lovely, culturally rich, with a much better climate place. Oh, no, go to Britain. Look, can I be honest and say, even with all the Nazis that are now in Britain and Nigel Farage, I think part of the reason is that France is a deeply racist society. Like, they're not allowed to recognise race, according to their constitution, right?

So they don't even count their racism problems in France. So I think that probably if you're waiting in France to sort of start your life, you probably look around and you go, actually, there's no upward mobility at all for non-out outsiders in France. My goodness. So the UK is a more welcoming place in France. Even with Nigel Farage. No, but the funny thing about the whole Nigel Farage thing is, so he's made it his talking point.

Now, what would you do if you were the government of England, and you had all the sort of institutional and informational powers that you have on hand as the actual government? Yes. Would you just immediately buy exactly into Nigel Farage's frame and go, oh, yes, you're right, there is a crisis. We are going to do everything. everything about it and we're just going to spend all of our electoral capital on creating this

problem that's not really a problem but we're going to say as a problem and then we'll have to we'll be stuck because we'll be trying to outbid Nigel Farage on every policy that we ever do or would you turn around and go no fuck off we're not talking about that let's actually do stuff for you know hospital schools and roads and do what a labour government's supposed to do what would you do which one would you do if you're kissed tarma if i was Keir Stama, I think I wouldn't know which of the two is the right option. And I'd probably, is neither an option? Is, is, is kind of dilly-dallying and going on a few podcasts an option?

Yeah, well, the one thing you wouldn't do is fix hospital schools and riots because what he's done is austerity. No, that's, that's very hard. So he's doing a mix of far right racism combined with the austerity of the conservative party. And I don't know, I mean, like, you go over there and you go, I have no idea why this guy's in power. an absolute...

With a landslide. With a landslide. And isn't he a human rights lawyer, is this? He's a human rights lawyer. But maybe he was against human rights. Maybe he was, you know... Well, he was knighted. If you're a lawyer, you've got to defend his sides.

Maybe he was in there saying, oh, maybe Slobodian-Mlosovich has a good idea. Has your trip to the UK left you with an appreciation of the the courage and the policy bravery of the Albanese government? Well, this is the... No, Dom. This is the problem. You go over there and they go, oh my God, wouldn't it be amazing to go to Australia

and actually have, you know, the socialist paradise that Australia represents under the inspirational leadership of Anthony Albanese? And you go, no, it's not like that at all. I promise. It's terrible. And nobody believes you. And you start crying and they still don't believe you. And then you go back and you go, oh, God, yeah, no.

Well, at least it's not. At least there's not Nazi rallies everywhere. Oh, shit, no. Thank you for your patience. Your call is important. Can't take being on hold anymore. FIS is 100% online, so you can make the switch in minutes. Mobile plans start at $15 a month.

Certain conditions apply. Details at FIS.ca. The Chaser Report. News you can't trust. I do think we need to talk about wardrobe, because to come back to the, what, to the round. Yeah, we've got to talk about the, yeah, because I do think, Charles, talk about the big issues. I do think that if we're going to have people with, with beards, yes.

Walking down on King Street in black clothes. Yes, they should at least have a barista license. We need to know whether they're from Melbourne or whether they're neo-Nazis. I think that's very confusing. Yes. Maybe they should have some sort of label on them that makes it appear. Like a skull. A subtle skull.

Yes. And perhaps the letter's SS. just to really just make it just so we know where we stand. Well, just the Australian flag would be sufficient. Well, I mean, this is the thing that the flag cape. I mean, the flag, remember the flag cape from the sort of Cronulla period? This is not the first time this issues arisen. But do you think there's a risk that people who don't know the context will see these neo-Nazis

walking down King Street with their trendy beards and their black clothes and their Aussie Cape? and think that Aussie capes is now just something that baristas wear. He's actually cool. Yeah, and then suddenly all the baristas of Newtown. Wouldn't that be ironic if neo-Nazis in flag capes walking down to the Australian flag trendy again? Maybe we should reclaim. Because I reckon at this point the Australian flag is at risk.

And I'm serious about this. He's at risk of being prescribed as a Nazi symbol and thus being banned in, you know, various states in Australia. I think Nazi symbols are banned in New South Wales, Victoria and ACT at the moment. And I think actually there's similar registration coming in in Queensland. You know, the Australian flag is so closely identified with that. Maybe we need to reclaim the Australian flag

for like non-Nazi use. Do you think that would work? I think what we need is in Olympics as quickly as possible. Yes, because that always wipes the slate clean, doesn't it? Well, it's the one thing we can all agree on. Yes. Neo-Nazi, although that's said. Maybe the Nazis should wear a New Zealand flag or something like that

so we know that that's what they're doing it. Because that's more sort of Poor New Zealand Well they look They look the same Like it's It just Give them something else to wear

What else could they Yeah because you're right We don't want them Just spoiling all our fashion wear And our flags And I don't want I like wearing black I don't want wearing black to be

I want to look like An orchestral musician On my day off I don't want to look like a neo-Nazi That's fine I want to look like a Melbourneian I'm going down to Melbourne this week Charles

Can I wear black now? Is it, is black over? I think black's over, yeah. Is something else the new black? What's the new black now? Well, let's hope it's not orange. Do I have to wear Australian flags? I look terrible in orange. Yeah, yeah. Well, look, where does this leave? I mean, it's just the start of a reform style surge in Australia. It's clear there's a lot more people than we normally hear from

who agree with this in a percentage of Webberston Charles. If you recall their media training, it's not that they dislike, it's just they want to defend Australia. They just love Australia, Charles. Is it a crime? Is it a crime? Is it? it a crime to love this country and tell everyone else to leave? Yeah, but also I really want to know what their definition of... An Australian is. An Australian is because I just feel like that's the ground that they're not very solid on. Like, because they're in Melbourne in the protest, somebody came up to the mic.

It was like an open mic situation and went, this always was and always will be Aboriginal land. And then got booed off, right? But you're just going, but that's true. Like, that's, like, surely if they're, if they believe in the sort of the people who grew here, well, it isn't it actually, that the people who are originally here can't have their rights respected. So there's no, there's no ownership there. Yeah. Because the people who came afterwards, they're the owners.

Yes. There's a little window where if you weren't here too early, if you weren't here too recently, you weren't here too long ago. Yes. That's the person. They're people with the rights. But try and fit that on a. Plecker, Don. It's really hard. You need to have a very complicated diagram. You need to have a kind of

Venn diagram of people who weren't here for too long. And you're saying I want, you've got to have a shallower connection with the land. Yes. People who've been here for tens of thousands of land. You don't want a long-lasting connection. No, you definitely can't have a deep cultural spiritual connection. So no spiritual connection at all. I want my lack of spiritual connection. Yes. But the fact that I grew up here, all that I migrated on in the 80s. Is the 80s the limit? What's the line? I don't even know. Well, I think we should...

They need to be clearer. There's a lack of... If you're going to say that Australia is for a particular group, I'm not going to say Australia for Australians because we know that's confusing. Australia is for these people? Which people is it? Maybe if they just did some work on themselves and worked out by their own... You know, they're expressing their anger outwardly rather than looking into themselves.

Maybe that could be part of the... Maybe that would help them come up with the right definition. Thank goodness we've managed to solve this situation. Oh my God. We're part of the Aconiclus network. Catch you tomorrow. Thank you for your patience. Your call is important.

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