The Chaser Report - Extra - Zoe Norton Lodge & Reputation Rehab

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

Charles, Craig & Dom are joined by Zoe Norton Lodge, host of the ABC's ‘Reputation Rehab,' to chat all things outrage, cancel culture and rebuilding reputations. Plus, Rebecca De Unamuno is back with all the latest news you can't trust.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chaser Report, Global World International News Headlines Update with Rebecca Dayunamuno. Channel 10 has announced it is horrified to learn that the baby-killing anti-baksa conspiracy theorists they booked for a show is a Nazi. The network said they were immediately canceling Pete Evans' appearance on I'm a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here and that he would not be welcome on the network until the fussed eyes down in about three days time. Meanwhile, Breakfast TV show Sunrise has rushed to book Pete Evans after he posted a neo-Nazi symbol to his Instagram account. A spokesperson for the network said that he had previously been excluded from the show for his dangerous claims about dieting, but they would never have banned him had they known he was a white supremacist. Scott Morrison has slammed suggestions that the government's $1.4 billion settlement over the Robo Debt Scheme was too small,

working out at just $2,000 per victim. said that if any of the victims had really wanted more money, they should have just changed their name to Foxtel. That's the latest Chaser news. Check out chaser.com.com for more updates. Thanks, Beck, and it's time now to catch up with a very old friend, Zoe Notton Lodge. Zoe Notton Lodge and Kirstale have an excellent show called Reputation Rescue. It's all about outrage. One of the few things that still unites us as a community. They seem to be trying to stop it. Zoe Notting Lodge is with us. Now, hey, Zoe. Zoe, would you like to correct it?

anything that Dom said? Yeah, I would actually, Dom. Thanks so much for taking such an interest in my coat, which I could try again with the name of it. Reputation Rehab is the name of it. Oh, God. In my, yeah, all right. Let's try that again.

No, no, no, it's much better. It just keep going. Yeah, look, my reputation was shot to begin with. Look, I was... No, so honestly, Tom, come on, Dom just desperately wants to be the first guest up on season two. It's going to enliven his career, so he's just already making gaps.

I know what's going on. What is the threshold? Like, how un-famous do you have to be to be allowed to get on the show? Like, would Don even make that? Oh, look, I mean, he's a pretty low bar, Charles. But no, no, that's not at all. We don't, it's not just celebrities at all. So on the episode that we'll have just aired when this comes out,

there are plenty of non-famous people involved. Yeah. Now, of course, it started the first episode was with Curios. Yeah. And that was fantastic. it made me love him and it's funny how he actually worked as a reputation rehab by the end of that episode i actually loved curios how did you do that that was a surprise well i mean it's funny isn't it because that was the goal like we we literally set out with this incredibly lofty aim to change hearts

and minds about people using comedy and empathy and being as unjudgmental as possible and we were like much to our surprise it seems to have watched it was what we've watched it like the overwhelming feedback we've had some people is that they've changed their minds about Nick Curios and I think honestly that the key to it was just asking different questions not just not just following the same tired old pre-masticated media narrative that has been following him around like a bad smell his entire life like just asking him some normal questions it was like very very very quickly did he reveal himself to be an incredibly funny generous, really, really lovely young person.

I think it was also... He was also genius to not be playing tennis against him at the time of the interview as well. I reckon that also helped him be quite a nice person. Look, I mean, true. I mean, it's been interesting actually. I think a lot of the people that we've had on and the show in general has been,

it's really interesting to make it in the context of COVID where everyone's life is a little bit different. You know, we probably wouldn't have gotten an interview with him before watching for that because he'd be overseas playing tennis. Yeah, and I love the fact he's to see, this lives with his mum still, doesn't he? Yeah, so if you've seen the Epp, we interview him in this like gorgeous little backyard and it's just his family home where he lives and he, because I suppose somebody like that they're on tour so often, you know, so often that he's traveling around the world.

So when he comes home, he really just wants to spend time with his family. And it's just this really beautiful, you know, know, family home. It's like full of photos of like, like, you know, every school photo that any of the kids have ever had taken is like clothed on the walls, like pinball machines, pets running around, like lots of, you know, video games. And I don't know if you caught this in the app, but he took us into his trophy room. And it's just like all these trophies are just like in the little alcove of a wardrobe.

Like, you know, you'd expect the little kid's trophies to be. And then above the wardrobe are all his smashed rackets. Yeah, yeah, that's the most of the room. I saw that. Do you think that maybe you missed the actual story there? Maybe that's why he gets so annoyed when he starts losing. He's like, fuck, I really want to move out from my home. I've got to win this storm so I can afford my own place.

Look, I get the impression he probably could afford to without his own company if he wanted to. So, Zoe, you know, you're in the business of doing rehab on people who have bad reputations. Have any sort of corrupt politicians contacted you since it started? You know, has Alan Tudge been in contact this week saying, hey, can you do a makeover on me? It's funny that you say that because I was, you know, just searching the hashtag reputation we have to see if anyone was chatting about it. And a lot of people had tagged us after that four quarters aired being like, oh, maybe for season two, maybe for next episode. And I was like, Oh, that's kind of nice that we're kind of like,

we're seeping into the consciousness a little bit that somebody would think to tag us alongside a disgrace person. I just don't go for a drink with them though. Yeah, no. Yeah, I think I'm cool on that score. And of course, for people, luckily you've been very lucky as well in the run, of course,

because you're only up against every state of origin in the US election, Zoe. Awesome. Oh, my God. It's not amazing. I know. It was just like, it's so funny. because this show has taken us so, as you guys would all know, because I have been talking

about it for years. Like, we've been trying so hard to get this show up for so long. And, like, this year, there was the pandemic and Kirsten and I both had babies, which was a crazy thing to do when we were trying to make this show. And then, like, that last hurdle, like, why is it on at the same time? This is the state of origin and the election. What a disaster. But, you know, what are you going to do? Like, unfortunately, you know, we, there's nothing we can do about that. We're just stuck. You're going to eye view it is what you're going to do.

Let me see I view. That's where you can see if you stuffed up and watch the state of origin instead. Well, that's right. I mean, like there are, I am led to believe that there are actually a handful of people under 170 watching our show, which is very different for the ABC. And yeah, and I think those people are tending to find it on Ivy. That would be the ultimate challenge, though, trying to fix up the reputation of rugby league players.

Well, it's funny you say that. We're going to give it a go. Stay tuned for episode, what is it? Episode six. The ultimate challenge. Todd Carney. Yes, this is the bubbling. Oh my God.

Oh my God. I cannot wait to see this episode. Reputation rehab on bubbling. Do you have to empathise with his bubbling incident? Like, is that how you do? Did you have to do a bit of bubbling yourself? I just want to know if there's a recreation. Well, you know, all those questions will be answered when you, when you tune in.

But that was a really, it's a great one because I think it's such a, it's a stand all that we all remember so well. And it's just, you know, like imagine being distilled down to that. You didn't leave a bad paste in your mouth. It was, no, it left a really refreshing taste in my mouth. Thanks for asking. You complain about that joke at At Chaser and Get Chaucer. on the next series. I do consider to be a victimless crime, really, that one.

So I look forward to seeing the results of that. I mean, he pissed in his own mouth. Like, by the standards of rugby league player, it was like, yeah, supposedly consensual. Yeah, it was like, that's kind of the... The only consensual. They should actually be playing, you know, when they train rugby league players,

they should be showing them this and going, look, guys, if you're feeling like a bit of a dick, yeah, this is probably one of the better things to do it. So can I ask you, can I ask you guys that... Can I ask you a question? Because this is just good research for our show. But what do you guys think? actually happened.

Because I know what happened now, but what do you think actually happened? Well, he, he was at the urinal, and he was showing off to his friends, and so he, and somebody gurgled it. Yeah, he gurgled the, did he, did he, did he, did he not gurgled the, did he miss? Did he miss, did he? It's just poor aim. I, somebody filmed him, and I don't actually know whether he did actually, I think he was, he was kind of patching the piss in his mouth.

Yeah. Well, so he pretended to piss in his mouth. Oh, no. You've just ruined him. Um, it's an optical illusion that apparently, um, you know, he's not the first person to do, certainly not the first person in his, uh, you know, assumed industry to do. It's a schoolboy thing apparently. Um, and, um, he actually wasn't aware that somebody, um, was taking a photo. The photo was taken without his consent or, or awareness at all. And then, um,

and he was, he was drunk. And so the first he actually, um, knew about it was when it was, um, you know, he's a picture of him with his penis out was online. Wow. I can't believe I feel sorry for Todd Carney. You and Coaster of the magicians. Yeah, you are magicians. This is brilliant, isn't it? I mean, that's normally where I find out when I've got my penis out and drunk.

You'll find it out and online later. Yeah, totally. But, like, it is interesting because we've, you know, had this conversation. I'm sure all of you would agree. Like, I mean, I, if there are plenty of things I've done, even in public where if somebody had taken a photo without my permission and uploaded it to the internet with no context, I probably wouldn't be presenting the show.

Yeah, absolutely. I think that's totally true. You know, like, it's just, like, like, I'm not defending what he did or anything like that, but it is just like, what we're kind of trying to interrogate is what it means for somebody to have their entire, like, what's the really interesting about the show is looking at the disconnect between the sort of media,

or, you know, Australian conception of somebody versus how they feel about themselves. And I think that disconnect is really quite, can be quite a harmful thing to experience for someone. And, like, let's be clear. Like, we've told us, like, he's not perfect. He's got a rap sheet that predates, you know, that incident. And we really look at that in the show and the context

and how the NRL dealt with it all. But that's what he's remembered for. It certainly is. It definitely is. Well, Zoe, we look forward to that. That's coming up in a later episode. And, of course, if you did accidentally somehow miss reputation rehab last night, you can watch it on Ivy.

Thanks, Zoe. Oh, thanks for having me, guys. Cheers. And there's lots more from The Chaser at chaser.com. com via Twitter, Facebook and all the other sources. Charles tells me there's TikTok. Have you still got TikTok, Charles? Yeah, we've got TikTok.

Oh, why do we bother with that? Anyway, catch you next time.