The Chaser Report - Nina Oyama is Double Vaxxed | Nina Oyama | Amanda Tattersall

Episode Date: August 30, 2021

Nina Oyama is double vaxxed up and has a hot tip on how to prevent the injection from making you feel sluggish, and Amanda Tattersall reports from the hottest hotspot in South Western Sydney. Plus Charles is unusually upbeat, which might be to do with the fact that Dom is back from tomorrow and this podcast will be saved Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chase of Report. Hi, welcome to The Chaser Report. It is Tuesday, the 31st. 31st, yeah, 31 days in August. Okay, good, I always forget. 31st of August, and I'm joined here with Charles. Hey, Charles. Hello, Gabby, and it is a very good Tuesday today. Oh, yeah? That's actually a change from what you normally feel.

I know, because, look, even though I know that there was record numbers, of COVID cases in Sydney yesterday, and they announced an extension of the lockdown in Melbourne, and same in New Zealand. It's not going very well in New Zealand either. I don't know. It's just sort of all tits up everywhere at the moment. But iron ore prices, Gabby, have skyrocketed. $240 a ton at the moment. Why is it a good thing? All the iron ore producers in Brazil have, I don't know, collapsed or something.

There's some terrible supply problem there. China has just announced a whole lot of stimulus so they need all the iron ore they can get, which means that our Twiggy Forest, Dr. Andrew Forrest himself, head of Fortescue, owns about half the company, has just paid himself to announce this yesterday, a dividend of $4 billion for the year. $4 billion. Imagine, what would you do with $4 billion, Gabi?

I can't even envision one billion. million dollars. That is an insane amount of money. It's just, no, it's just four thousand million dollars. So it's just like, imagine a million dollars, then imagine four thousand of those million dollars. That's all it is. And that's just his income. That's not like what he also owns. That's not his wealth. That's just, that's just the money, the extra money. It's just his cut. It's just his cut of that years. Right. Yeah. So isn't that good news? Isn't it, well, it's good news for him anyway. Go, billionaires. And you will remember, remember that Twiggy Forest was pivotal in making sure that the mining tax was never introduced.

So we don't get any of that. We don't get any of that money. Oh, it's just a happy tale all around, Charles. Yeah, we could, I mean, if we had had the mining tags, we'd all be on 15% super. That was what Kevin Rubb was going to name it. Yeah. That was the whole idea. Well, thanks for that.

Coming up on the show, we have Nina Oyama coming on to have a little bit of a a little bit of a rave about being fully vaxed. Very happy for her. And very excited. I've never talked to Nina on this podcast. What, really? I thought you were friends. Yeah.

I thought it was some big plot to keep us separate. So we could join forces and win. I don't know what we're winning, but. Plus, John Del Menico is popping in to actually give us a quiz on how Brexit's going. That'll be interesting. And also, and this is in no way some sort of conflict of interest. It's not, you know, in any way, anything other. than just pure talent hire.

We're getting my wife in on the show. But first, let's head to Rebecca Dayunamuno in the Chaser Newsroom. The US has announced it successfully landed a defensive offensive strike in Afghanistan. US military strategists defended killing two children in the attack, pointing out that they were defending themselves from the possibility that the children could have grown up to become terrorists. Scott Morrison has offered New Orleans assistance after it was hit by a massive hurricane. The Prime Minister said he was on hand to help leaders in New Orleans cope with the natural disaster

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Because you know what? We've never been on the show together, Nina. That's true. I've been avoiding you. Yeah. Finally, the women outweigh the men on this podcast. I can only ever be the only woman on the show. It's actually my contract.

It's stipulated because if I'm the only woman, then I can be the funniest woman. Oh, fuck. And now it's a competition. My contract just says things like we own all of the music you create. So jokes on them. I've made two songs. I'm so sorry, you got screwed in that way. Oh, it's fine.

It's fine. I don't think Charles has looked at it. Charles, the one man on the show, the funniest man. I am. I'm the funniest man. The least funniest man In the same way Damn, you tricked me

I got you How's it feel now? No, just get you sorry It's been a big day And you're fully vex now Yeah, I got my second AZ I got my second AZ on Friday And um

Shouldn't it be AZ? No, I'm calling it AZ Because I've got aspirations to move to LA And so I'm slowly like acclimatizing My language Awesome song I don't know. Is that good? Yeah.

Good as. Good as, good A-Z. Yeah, there you go. Does anyone, do they say potato in America? They don't say potato. I don't think anybody says potato. Yeah, I think potato's a lie. So why do they say it in the song?

You say potato, I say potato. I don't know if you know this thing about songs, but they're not all real. Like, they're not all factual. Sometimes we just throw a lyric in just to finish the song, Charles. Sometimes it's just about the rhyme. I was just trying to get in with the California groove. Well, to get in with the California groove, Charles, we have to make a lot more money.

Before we can start debating potato potato, we need like a million, 10 million, you know? Yeah, you also need to be like significantly cooler. That's how I, that's my way in. I'm just going to become so cool. I'm the coolest man on this podcast. Right now, yes. And now, oh, who is that calling? It's Domnut.

Sorry, Charles. Okay, so how did it go down? Yeah, it was great. Yeah, it was a great experience. Highly recommend it. It was super quick. But I have this friend that was like, she got her second fax and she was hearing all these rumors about how the second one really packs a punch.

And so she actually figured out a really good hack to make it pack less of a punch. Do you guys want to hear it? Yes. This works every time apparently. Great. Well, I haven't got my second Pfizer yet, so I will take this on board. Well, yeah, you should really listen to the advice. Her advice was to get the Vax and then spend the rest of the day drinking beers.

And then apparently your body doesn't hurt as much And you don't, the effects are not as big If you just spend the remainder of the day postbacks Drinking all the beers you possibly can Flawless. She's not a scientist, but I trust her. Yeah, I trust it too. Did you wake up the following morning feeling a bit groggy

and a bit of a headache and dehydrated? Well, listen, like I, so I tried this method. Oh, you tried it. Oh, right. And I did, but I put that down to the outside. alcohol and not the vaccine. Yes. Perceboed yourself

another sickness. Yeah. I just got hung over and then therefore could not feel the debilitating, tiring effects of my body receiving the coronavirus. It was actually genius. The same could be said for any kind of method of doing that though. I feel like after my second vacs,

if I wanted to like cut off a toe, you know, like I feel like I'd then be more focused on the fact that I just cut my toe off. No, no, no. It only works for hangover. The only comparable tape. I will say, though, I actually was not planning to drink on the day of my vaccine. But my neighbor, who I've spoken about before, it was her name day.

She's like an old Macedonian woman. And it was her day. And she came out to the backyard with a bunch of vodka shots. And so we all just did shots of vodka. And I was like, well, the train has left the station. I'm drunk. And I guess I have no choice but to continue drinking because it was my neighbor's name day. So can I ask with your neighbor, does your neighbor come up with reasons to drink vodka

shots in the backyard most days? Is that or was a genuinely unique? No, no, no. This is a, she sometimes gives us food. She's really, really lovely. She once gave us a whole bowl of cabbage. And I'm always like, you need to get vaccinated because we're all vaks, but she's not. And so she just started passing shots through the back fence.

And it was actually amazing. It was so good. Yeah, highly recommend having like a wonderful neighbor. Do you know Gabby and I went to the same uni? Bathurst? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. What is it?

Bachelor of Communications majoring in theater and media. My favorite story about me, there's so many weird stories. Like, basically, I went back like two years later to visit Angus or something. And there was like this old guy at the pub. And he was like, oh, I recognize you from somewhere. And I was like, oh, is it because. And I went through stuff I did in town. I was like, oh, I used to have his trivia.

He's like, nah. I was like, I used to work at Condon. He's like, nah. And I was like, fuck it. I'm sometimes on TV. And I've been on this show called Tonightly And he was like, nah, that's no And I was like utopia and he's like, nah, da-da.

And then he goes, hang on, you're that chick that got fuck-eyed at the Dudley Hotel. And what he's talking about is in first year, I've got so high And I greened out during a performance, a TM performance at a pub. And I vomited. I ran out in the middle of the performance.

And I vomited all up and down. the wall and all the locals saw me run out and they ran out after me and they all watched me like paint an entire wall. I have heard that story. I didn't know that was you. Yeah, that's me. And then every year since, come full circle. We went back to the wall and we recreated the pictures of me being passed out next to this wall. I love that it's the Dudley too. Like Charles, if you don't know where the Dudley in Bathurst is like, it's not a student pub. It's just a It's like probably the oldest pubs. The demographic that usually goes there is like families of alcoholics.

Yes. Yes. And why were you there, Nina? For mumming, yeah. So basically one of the things that we had to do for media media caliber assignment. This one was we had to create a show, perform it in a pub full of people who did not want to see us. So the show had to be about things that people in town were interested in. So before you do the performance, you have to interview everyone and find out what they're passionate about.

I think ours was about parking tickets because people didn't like getting parking tickets so ours was like a, you know, big theatre show about parking tickets. Yeah, and then you perform it to these people and hopefully they see themselves in your show and then in the middle of the show the main character dies and the only way to bring the main character back to light

is to pass a hat around the pub and people put money in the hat and then you have to get enough money to buy a beer and the main character who's dead to reels of full beer and comes back to life and finishes the performance. And that's what mumming is.

This is a whole fucking rave on its own. We're just, we're just having a chin wagg, Charles. You should have put me on the show with Gabby today. It's going to get out of control. Yeah, maybe we've realized that this is a mistake. This is the Nita and Gabby hour now. So just to be clear, like,

so you vomited all over the wall at the Dudley. Yeah. So had you been vaccinated? Is that why you were so? Yes, I had, I'd been getting a different vaccine that day and I'd been drinking all day, because of the fax. Right.

I just wanted to bring that into an end. You know, you would think, you would think that I would be immune to alcohol by now, like the amount that I drank at you. And so actually, now that I think about it, maybe the vaccine is the thing that made me tired. I actually think that vodka, I don't know, had some herb in it, man.

I reckon that herb made the hangover way less painful than it would have been. Time to find out what that is. Maybe I should just get a third vaccine. Like people are out here getting three vaccines. Are any of them drunk? No? No.

I'll be a pioneer. It'll be instead of local idiot gets all the vaccines. It'll be like local drunk idiot gets all the vaccines. We need that, child. Thank you for putting your body on the line, Nina Ayama. I'm doing it for science, Charles. I'm a woman of science. I'm a woman in STEM.

Would you believe? No, I don't. Hey, it's me again. And you may be wondering, how do I use scalper? Well, it's simple. I'm nearly bald, but Gary over here, full head of hair. So I just take the scalped Ultra Tool 1000 and... Bob's your uncle.

Now you just have to apply a trademark super glue and you have the freshest hair and cut around. But Gabby, I was talking to my wife last night. That's nice. Yeah, and she does a podcast called ChangeMakers podcast. Oh, yep. And she's been talking to various parts of the Muslim community in southwest Sydney about their experience under lockdown. Yeah.

And turns out, you know, some of the stories coming out of South West Sydney is pretty grim. So I thought we'd get her on the line. Hey, Amanda, how are you going? I'm well. How are you, Charles? Did the kids go well today at school? Yeah, we had a cracking day of homeschooling, actually. I'm really proud.

So what's the story? What's the story with your friends who live out there? Yeah, so I mean, look, I've been working with a Muslim community in Western Sydney for about 20 years. And so when the lockdown and then the intense lockdown and then the naming people from certain backgrounds as being terrible started happening, I got back in touch with them. And, well, there's lots of terrible things happening. But the worst story I think that I heard was what happened to one of my friends, Lina. So Lina lives in a big family. There's 11 people in her home, ranging in ages from 7 to 82, right?

So hugely impressive multi-generational family. Perfect sort of sick on material, really. Yeah, I mean, could you imagine it would be, yeah. But anyway, they're not quite sure. how COVID came into the house. It could have been from Lena's daughter, who's a childcare worker, her husband, who runs a bakery, or she could have got it

at a medical appointment. But it came into their house and it just spread like a wildfire through everyone. And look, they had a terrible time. They were sort of out of action for about 25 days. And the three of them ended up in hospital.

It really was, it was, it was a little bit worse than the flu, let's just say. But there's a few things that happened that made it really pretty terrible. The first, you know, because I keep hearing on the news, right? Some experts keep saying, oh, people, you've got to call the ambulance, don't call them too late, because people are dying in their homes, right? Yeah. Well, actually, that's just not the whole story. So in Lena's extended family, they called the ambulance.

four times for her father before the ambulance were prepared to actually take him to hospital. God. And four times, right? They had to basically beg for them to be taken to hospital. Did they turn up and then go, no? They turned up. They wouldn't come into the house. There must have been a protocol. No blame on individual paramedics right. But actually, there must be some rule that says don't go into the house. So even though people are in full PPE, they refuse to go into the house and look at him. He had to come outside. So they had a couch on their front veranda.

And he stumbled to get outside. You know, he's an older man. And, you know, he's a former veteran, right? The guy eventually made himself get up and get out. But even there when he flopped on the couch, they would only hold, like sort of extended arm, hold out of thermometer. Like they really wouldn't touch him to check him, sort of, you know, sort of treating him like he was a leper, right?

That is the way in which the paramedics described it. I mean, in fairness to the paramedics, though, like if I was in that situation, I probably would also be going, I don't want to catch Delta. Well, you know, I understand people not wanting to catch Delta, right? But if you're a trained medical professional,

you also understand that treating people with compassion is a really important part of the health process, you know? Like, I think that's what's sad about it is not being able to sort of see the other person who's suffering as a person, you know, anyway. Fourth time, fourth time, not the first or the second or the third or the fourth time. he eventually makes it to hospital.

They diagnose him with COVID pneumonia and he only's got 77% oxygen. Like the guy was very, very, very unwell. Put him straight in the ICU, put him straight on a ventilator. Only because Selena was a very assertive and effective advocate, did he even get in that fourth ambulance? I worry what would have happened if she wasn't, you know? Yeah.

And the other thing that you're sort of mentioning about all this was that the police do lineups, the COVID lineups. Yeah, the police lineups, that's right. So when they started in their lockdown in early August, you know, middle of winter, quite cool in the morning. And between 8 a.m. and 9.30 a.m., the police would turn up from the front of their home. They would randomly call someone in the home, different person each time, you know, create a bit of surprise.

And they would call everyone out to the front of the house, right out the front of the house, right not just this is not like kids at school this is people with COVID the kind of people who are you know having to go you know to hospital because they're so seriously unwell they have to stand in a line and be called out by name to be checked on to make sure that they are they haven't absconded that they're still there every single day at 8 a.m. six people being called it not asked do you need any medicine? Have you got enough food? Just checked to make sure that they haven't left the house, which of course they haven't because they are sick with COVID. Yeah, but you know, I'm sure they're doing that in Bondi as well. I'm sure they're doing

that in Bondi. They have to be. I've heard so many stories of it. Kind of constant, you know, effective police surveillance in Bonn. If only there had been police surveillance. Yeah. I wonder what would have happened. To the original outbreak. Actually, in Bondi, they probably hand them a cocktail. Isn't that the way, or... I mean, one of the concerning things I heard was that out in Wilcania, the government has handed a whole lot of extra powers to the police.

And the whole point is that the community in Wilcena don't necessarily get along with the police. Yeah, track record of some shady relations, you know. Yeah, the whole... Like testing custody thing has been, you know, 30 years. deal unresolved. And yet, so it's sort of using police to enforce the sort of medical emergency. It's the craziest, you know. Yeah.

It's happening everywhere. But the trouble is, is that the press, I don't know whether it's if people don't have the right relationships or there's a lack of interest. But these details, the disinterest from the health system and the abusive treatment from the police system is going on. and no one's being held to account about it. You know, the community policing has been thrown out the window at a time when actually we need to care about the community, not disregard them.

No, but Amanda, we're going to get some picnics in a couple of weeks' time. Well, as my friends at the Muslim Women's Association said, they're going to be very white picnics. You know, there's going to be no falafel, there's going to be no lamb cofter. There's going to be no hummus at those picnics, tragically, because we've cut off the interesting part of the city from the celebration. Oh, that's really, truly horrible. Regretting, even asking you on the show.

But I love you too, my love. I love you too. Okay, well, that's Amanda Tedesaw. She's my wife, and she also is the host of the ChangeMakers Podcast, which is, where can you get it? It's at change. On podcast apps, I believe. Yeah, and Changemakerspodcast.org.

That's right. Yep. Good one, Charles. Good memory. Thank you. What was your last name again? A mystery. Just change it every day on him, Amanda.

Send him through some hoops. Yeah, just never change it to first. No, God no. Hey, we're back. And guess what? This time, I'm rocking my brand new scalped haircut in court. You know why? Because the legal system doesn't approve of how great you look with scalped.

How do you plead? Guilty of having the best hair around. Scalper, if you can't look good, why should anyone else? So Gabby, have you been wondering when COVID's going to peak? Oh, I used to. At the beginning of this lockdown, I thought about wondering, you know, when it was going to peak, when it was going to end. And now I just have accepted that it is a part of the hellscape that will be the rest of my life. Well, I have the answer for you.

Oh, that's nice. That's a definitive answer in this lockdown. A definitive answer. I'm sure there's no, nothing. thing wrong with this, and I'm sure it will all go according to plan. Yeah, good. Chris Billington, who's an academic at the University of Melbourne. Yeah.

Chris Billington, who's an academic at the University of Melbourne, has predicted that the Sydney outbreak of Corona will peak on the 22nd of September, and it'll be 3,300 cases, and then it will start coming down. And you know what the best thing about that is? No. My birthday is the day beforehand. Oh, it's you. You're the problem.

Yes. So I just got to turn 46 and then it's all downhill. It's all... That really is. You're just... You really are over the hump at that point. Yes. And what it means is that I can, you know,

illegally create a party of 100 of my closest friends, especially all my anti-vax are friends. Because I know the... the very next day, the virus is going to peak, and it doesn't matter because that event will not then spare a whole extra heap of cases. Are you planning on just, not to put ideas in your head, but are you planning on just telling everybody to just sneakily have a picnic of their own that day at a particular park? So my wife has been looking at the rules very closely, she did a law degree.

Classic. She likes to think of herself as the details. So she looked at the rules, and she came up with this elaborate. plan to sort of have a sequence of picnics where we sort of invite three people and then you know 20 meters away we invite the next two and then and then and the whole point was that it sounded like the worst day of my life imagine having a series of picnics as your birthday it'd be horrible you are no stranger to the knowledge that I hate picnics anyway but the thing I will say is the one thing I said about this rule coming in was that it again

gives people a loophole to just have multiple picnics at the same time and call it like a picnic with their family, but actually it's a picnic of 50 families. You're the family I was talking about. Clearly, you can't have a picnic series of events. No, I don't think you can. And also, I don't want to.

And also, I realised I've only got two friends. Oh, classic. Oh, then yeah, you can. Just kick out one of your kids. It's really hard because you only allowed five people. Yep, kick out one of your kids. Oh, yes. You got to pick your favourite one, though.

That's pretty tough. That's the whole movie, Sophie's Choice. You know, I never really understood why it was such a dilemma in Sophie's Choice. It was really clear. Me. Well, I, for one, am glad that it peaks at 3,300. And at no point in the future, if we come back to this episode of the podcast after we hit 4,000 like tomorrow or something,

will I feel any level of regret? Because I know that that has to be fake. Well, the good thing is that the media is so unaccounted. accountable at the moment, that it doesn't matter what you say, because no one will ever come back and try and hold you to account. Yeah. Good. Well, I'll see you in a month when we've hit 7,000 cases.

Okay, great. Yay. On my birthday. Yeah. Woo-hoo. Happy birthday. Happy 46th. It's your last one.

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