The Chaser Report - Talkin' 'Bout Your Migration (Protest)

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

After realising that the Nazi's at the Anti-Migration protest really want people to talk about them, Charles decides to talk about them. Plus, learn how supporting negative gearing is actually supporting fascism.---Buy the Wankernomics book: https://wankernomics.com/bookListen AD FREE: https://thechaserreport.supercast.com/ Follow us on Instagram: @chaserwarSpam Dom's socials: @dom_knightSend Charles voicemails: @charlesfirthEmail us: [e-mail] CEO’s Super-yacht upgrade Fund: https://chaser.com.au/support/ Send complaints to: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chaser Report is recorded on Gadigal Land. Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chaser Report. Hello, and welcome to The Chaser Report with Dom and Charles. Hello, Charles. Now, lots to talk about today. But first of all, I do want to talk a little bit more about the very, very happy and not at all depressing racist rallies that were held over the weekend. I've got two thoughts about it that we didn't do in last yesterday's show. but I think it's quite interesting

and a little sort of insight into what it was like to be a media organisation covering that that rally. And even more interesting than that, these ads. So, the thing is, Dom, that

I don't know whether you, I don't know, do you get the sort of Chase of website emails? Yeah, you mean the Chaser weekly or you mean the ones for the Chaser website? Yeah, like the dissent to the Chaser website. Oh, no, I think I set that system up about 20 years. ago and haven't checked it in about 19 years.

So I do, for some reason, still get them. And one of the fascinating... Your inbox must be a cesspit. What are you doing, man? Oh, it's horrible. One of the things that was amazing just over the last couple of days is a whole lot of people who had gone along to the... What was it called?

March for Australia. For Australia, right? You were going to say restore sanity and or balance whatever it's called. And sort of going, oh, so I went along and I filmed. all these racist people, God, they're lunatics. Anyway, here's a Google drive of all the images and videos that I recorded on the day, right? And there was several, several of these emails were sent to us, right? And it got me thinking, that really, like, that never happens, right?

We never get spoon-fair. Like, I imagine if you were at the Herald or the age or whatever. Yeah, you'd constantly get data, drops and... You'd be from every company in the world. Like, that's how news gathering works now. days is the journalist gets spoon fed from whatever company or organisation. Oh yes, they send their own videographers around and release. That's what happens.

I can confirm that. But it did make me think that maybe part of the goal of that march was not necessarily to get people to cover it and agree with it, but just to cover it at all. And that maybe some of the people emailing us these Google drives full of content that we could readily share were not actually as anti-racist as they purported to be. Oh. They just were, you know, coming at us at an angle that would mean that we'd be more likely to cover it with all this amazing footage and photos.

But actually, that they, like, it seemed very well organised. Do you see what I mean? But, Charles, that's one hypothesis. The thing I thought you were going towards was a hypothesis that actually, of the apparent 15,000 people who marched in Sydney. Yes. I wonder if maybe 10,000 of them were there people collecting. Collecting to take photos to go through and do, you know, facial recognition and whatever.

So people who were actually supportive. Yeah, yeah. Just wanting to surveil all the people who were there. Yeah, you're right. Which would be quite funny if that was the case. It probably, well, that would account for, yeah, the numbers. Because everyone was very surprised that 15,000 people turned up. Yeah.

But if actually the vast majority was people pretending to be racist but actually not racist. That's very good. That would be great. Look, who knows? If you were there, if you're one of them, email a podcast at chaser.com. But I think the whole point is we're falling into their trap because the whole point is all they want is for us to be talking about it. And we are talking about this. But Charles, you said at the start of this, when we were just about to hit record, you said, I want to talk more about the rally.

Yes. Because I've got a point that I want to make. Yes. And so is the point that you went out of your way to make that we shouldn't talk more about it? Yes, yes, it is. Okay. I know. I feel like they've won at this point in the conversation.

Can you bring it back? No, probably not, because the other thought that I had, which I wish I'd made yesterday, was, you know how you were saying that actually in all the grievances that they keep on talking about? Because it's all about mass migration is the sort of... Recent mass migration, yes. Recent mass migration that happens to fit into the category

that they don't particularly like today. There's always the mention of housing. Like, there's a real sense that part of the trigger for this is that actually the housing crisis makes everyone feel like the, you know, the place is too crowded. The foreigners are crowding out the housing market and that's why good old Aussie immigrants who have been here slightly longer than the other people can't get ahead and get a house, right? Yeah. And it just struck me that anyone who supports negative gearing or these capital gains tax concessions that, are pumping up the price of housing, literally are trading a sort of racist pogrom and a Nazi future for a few extra bucks on their investment property.

Like essentially, the calculation, I think, from the government has been, well, maybe we can just like put up with a bit more Nazism and just concede the whole housing crisis. Like, do you think it's just a terrible state of affairs that essentially the housing crisis has now been adopted as a cause by the fact. right, because our supposedly left-wing or progressive or just even centrist governments can't be bothered to actually do something and stop, you know, the house price inflation caused by all the fucking tax breaks. And having winged for many years on this podcast about housing availability and affordability,

you now feel that our issue has been caught up. Has been caught up by Nazis. A couple of thoughts on this, Charles. And do you think that the cabinet has discussed and gone, well, you know, look, My investment property is worth, you know, an extra million dollars. Maybe it's worth having a bit of extra nuts. Are you suggesting... Maybe we just concede that.

Are you suggesting that the Albanese cabinet might actually have its fees on this slightly skewed by the sheer number of them that are on investment properties, including the Prime Minister himself? I'm saying exactly that. I think that that's totally... We know that. That is outrageous defamation that you would suggest that just because quite a few people in the cabinet have a doubt. direct personal financial interest in policy, they wouldn't be able to put that to one side. How dare you? But I think, Dom, that not only that, but unless the Albanese government's prepared to radically

change cause and... So is it even worth finishing that sentence? Well, on housing and just actually start properly fucking doing something about it, then this is likely to continue that anyone who supports negative gearing now, I'm basically saying is supporting Nazism. that's what I'm saying. Wow, that's... Have you looked at who our audience is, Charles?

And what proportion of them have the best of properties? No, but look, the negative going wouldn't be such an issue if there was supply. And if it was easier to lose money on the housing market. But no, no, no, but Dom, you're... That's not true, right? Like, in the same way that the racist arguments are not true, right? Like, if that were true, if it was all about supply and demand, then there was no migration at all during...

during the pandemic, right? And house prices went up, right? And the reason is, because the market is not dictated by supply and demand of people and houses. It's determined by the amount of money that is chasing housing, right? And it's about the supply of money. It's literally, it's about making money. It's about how much money you can make out of it.

It is dictated entirely by that. So it is completely untethered from mass migration. It's a completely different thing. Actually, isn't it true that? It's also untethered. It doesn't matter how many houses the Albanese government encourages to be built, of which they're still completely underbaking it. That's not actually the issue.

It's actually dictated by, you know, interest rates. It's literally how much money supply is there because the conditions are so favorable in favor of housing that the only thing that you should do, if there's extra money sloshing around, is invested in housing. Well, also, isn't that what happened in COVID actually is that prices went down quite sharply at first, and then all the investors went, yay, it's Christmas, and then houses went back up again. The Chaser Report, news you can't trust.

But Charles, I think there's another thing that these people, our fellow Australians who were out marching, I think it's something that they may slightly have missed in their analysis of the housing market. I am. Which is certainly here in Sydney, in the inner city of Sydney. I'm not sure about other cities, but I think certainly in Melbourne CBD as well. Do you know who's building the extra houses?

You know who's built thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of houses in recent times? Companies from China, Charles, have been, I mean, if you go, there are, sure, some of them aren't very well built. There's some I can think of in the Sydney CBD. So there's Harry Triggerboff over there on one hand, waving the flag, who's built more housing than anybody in history of Australia. And he is a... Is he a migrant?

Migrant. Yes, he's a my... Yeah, I'm afraid so. So there's that. But then there's also all these companies. There's millions of them. There's Sun Lord. There's Aqualan.

There's a million companies that have built huge amounts of housing in the inner city. So in some ways, maybe if you actually read carefully the March for Australia's website, which say that they want Australia to be in the hands of the people who built Australia. What they're actually saying is we should hand Australia over to the China. The Chinese developers. Yeah, that's right.

That's actually what they're saying. They're actually not racist at all. And then there's also escape. And I mean, we're looking at, you've got to look at housing. You have to look at escape. So, escape are the people who build those student accommodation. And I'm looking at this here. It's extraordinary.

They have 38 buildings across Australia. Yeah. They have 18,500 beds. Yeah. Almost all of them sort of shared and we shared bathrooms that none of us would possibly. Have you? They're really nice.

They're quite nice. And they're very expensive. They're building another. They're building another five or six thousand. And so what happens if we cut down on this migration is this company goes broke. An honest Aussie company that just wants to build expensive apartments for international students goes under. What did the march for Australia think about that? Look, I think we're just playing into their hands talking about them.

Well, you did say that to begin with. Anyway, so look, what will happen as a result of all of this? Will there be an Australian Nigel Farage? I think, no, I think what's going to happen is. is the federal government will realize that housing and the housing crisis is their responsibility and then act with vim and vigour to completely solve the problem, thus dampening any need for a sort of far-right reactionary response. Well, Charles, if they do that, I'm just thinking at the last time,

a Labor government decided, look, we're really behind on something. We need a concerted. Sorry, sorry, Dom. That was a chat GPT response. Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. Sorry, I asked it to do sarcasm. No, but I'm just thinking, Charles.

Do you remember the last time that we generally, we had a huge nation building infrastructure undertaking from a Labor government? I'm talking, of course, about the NBN. Oh, I thought you were doing about the Snowy River. No, no, no, no. The NBN, when Kevin Rudd said we have to have fibre to every home in Australia. Yes. We will make this happen.

We're going to get on it. We're going to do this for Australia. Yes. To be a large piece of nation building. So imagining, even if the Albanese government agrees today, they must undertake housing Australia, they're going to build a million homes, it's going to be publicly funded. Maybe they finance the developers, whatever they do. Well, we've already solved how they finance it, which is they finance it by investing in Sydney property.

Yes. And then they make so much money out of that that they can then afford to provide housing. All they need to do, we've said this before, is that in every new development, the government just keeps one of the 100 departments and they make so much money out of it. Yeah. It's all fine. Anyway, so what would happen if we have the NBN as a model is the Albanyi government would have this big plan. They'd get it all underway.

They'd get cracking on it. And then before anything really happened, they would lose office because they hadn't done anything on housing. And then the coalition would cancel. Come in and make all the houses out of copper. It would be copper-bacresing. Well, no, they'd just use existing houses to make the new houses. They would. They'd build a new house like one per neighbourhood.

And then they, I can't look out as an energy works. And then what you would do is that would be. enough to supply, you know, housing for all the people in that neighbourhood. If you wanted to be in a new house, you'd just go and spend five minutes. You'd book yourself in. Yes. In the, in the communal. Yeah, share it around.

Among thousands of other people. I can't work out quite what the analogy is for the existing wiring, but nevertheless. And it would be Rupert Murdoch who would come up with that. Because it would take so long to actually do this giant nation building project. I mean, you wouldn't really get anywhere in the three-year term of this government. You wouldn't build a single house, even if you genuinely started to. They're not even trying to. Yeah, but if you were to try.

Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know whether Susan Lee would be willing to go on to build them or whoever Angus Taylor, whoever leads the coalition. Who's the next coalition prime minister? I don't know. I don't know. It's probably somebody who... We've already answered this too, Barnaby Joyce.

Yeah, I reckon Bob Katter's looking more and more likely. I think someone who was at that rally? Yeah, I reckon. Could do it? I'm not sure. Anyway, point being, yeah, where we just talked... It feels like this is a remix of all the podcasts we've ever done in the past. Charles, but point...

This is our greatest hits. It's the greatest hits. Point being... All we've got to do is work out a way to get Bluetooth into the housing policy. What the government... I mean, what the government needs to do

is hide Bluetooth surveillance devices in the black shirts. Can you imagine? We know... What they should do, Charles, is they should use that footage of the rallies that all these people have taken and uploaded.

Yep. Use facial recognition, basically to be the big scary surveillance estate that every one thinks they are, that they don't seem to be. Yes. Like, analyse all of that footage. Yes. And then go and all they need is 15,000 houses.

They could just buy them all off by giving them all a house. Wouldn't they just incentivise more people to become Nazis? Because if you become a Nazi, you get to get a house? Probably. But it would start the whole thing right now. You could make a special neighbourhood for them, couldn't you? You could. And in the east

You'd have sort of living through Wellara That's what you could do at Wallara station Yes you'd have Labens around in the east Actually I think that wouldn't go down very well at all Thinking about who traditionally lives in east No I like this a lot

Right so anyway It'll be interesting to see what happens For all this Do you think we're going to see increased rallies Is this the first of a wave of rallies That we're going to see I don't know The most depressing thing though

I feel like is that it's all white men isn't it? I saw some white women. Like everything that's going on at the moment is just white men being horrible, fuckwits, right? It turns out white men are quite hard to dislodge from their position of global hegemony, aren't they? I think it's white men that are the problem.

Like, why can't it just be black lesbians for once being the troublemakers? This is the point where Charles gets cancelled. Why can't we just get some sort of... But Charles, if you believe the people at the rally... Some sort of meek Asian woman. Look, in Rally Episode 2, Charles, are you... I'm just saying somehow the government has stuffed up the housing crisis so badly that they've conceded or they've at least allowed the far right to start taking the housing and housing affordability as a sort of central plank of what they're marching on.

And that is just an appalling state of affairs. Like, they have to fix it. If it wasn't urgent yesterday because Alba's base balance looked pretty nice and his capital gains looked pretty nice, it should be today because this is not just about, you know... So you're saying housing policy is threatening social cohesion. Yes, yes, it's properly doing it. And this is a reason to actually act.

Not in five years' time when it's too late. But Charles, the people at the rally were pretty clear that it wasn't all the largely white politicians in Canberra, that was the problem, it was the immigrants. Are you saying they've got that wrong, the rally people? Oh my goodness. They'll be very upset when they find out, won't they? We're part of the Iconicless network.

We'll talk about something else tomorrow. Yeah, let's just think we're falling into the trap. Something cheery like Donald Trump.