The Chaser Report - The National Socialist Broadband Network

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Following a protest outside NSW Parliament by neo-Nazis on the weekend, Charles and Dom look at what’s to blame: lack of housing, lack of sex or too much social media? Order the 2025 CHASER ANNUAL: https://chasershop.com/products/the-chaser-and-the-shovel-annual-2025-preorderListen AD FREE: https://thechaserreport.supercast.com/ Follow us on Instagram: @chaserwarSpam Dom's socials: @dom_knightSend Charles voicemails: @charlesfirthEmail us: [e-mail] CEO’s Super-yacht upgrade Fund: https://chaser.com.au/support/ Send complaints to: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The Chaser Report is recorded on Gadigal Land. Striving for mediocrity in a world of excellence, this is The Chaser Report. Hello and welcome to The Chaser Report with Dom and Charles. Charles, on Saturday, 60 black-clad protesters holding an explicitly anti-Jewish banner, stood outside New South Wales Parliament House. For quite some time, the police didn't shut them down. What? Because it was an authorised protest.

Someone had applied to be allowed to do the protest. Someone in the police had said, yeah, that's cool. Sounds like a thing we should allow. This was people from the National Socialist Network or NSN. Oh, thank goodness. I thought you were going to say that they were pro-Palestine for a moment. And, I mean, that would have been shocking if they'd allowed that. And there's so many questions about this.

Like, did they think that it was national socialist as in Nazi? Did the person who made the decision know that the National Socialists were Nazis? A rag-tag bunch of lefties. Did they think it was people selling the socialist worker in Flannies with holes in them? I don't know what they thought it was going to be, except that Charles, apparently the paperwork didn't say National Socialist Network. It said White Australia. What?

It said White Australia. That's what the application said. And, I mean, does this mean white supremac? were they thinking it was like was it was it chess advocates who enjoy just playing with one side of the board who knew what went into the decision but the thing is presumably can i just say it probably was somebody who doesn't know Australian history very well right do you think it may be just somebody who had never heard of the term white austral like white australia policy i imagine if you're under sort of 25 you've grown up you know like not really not like and you didn't do history

school because you were a thug who wanted to join the police, you spent most of your time at school bashing up little kids or whatever, which is I'm assuming or raiding the donut store for donuts because you love donuts. Oh, you're leading into that serious site now, are you? Okay, I'm just saying, we've got to have some empathy for the cops there. You know, think about what they were thinking. I would love to know what was in the mind. Let's take some ads and then go from there. Look, I recently had an encounter with a police officer who was very young and female and completely not of that stereotype. But it is true that whoever made the decision, and I think we're still trying to find out.

Inquiries apparently underway, we know that the Premier apparently didn't know about it. The Commissioner didn't know about it. Well, I'm sure everyone now says that they didn't know about it. But whose desk did it come across? I reckon even the person whose desk it came across didn't know about it at this stage, surely. And I mean, we're not in the business of Chaser's style stunts anymore, but if we were, I would have thought what we would have done. And this is possibly what I might have pitched at a writer's meeting if we still had writers meetings. Yeah.

Is putting in a range of applications for increasingly absurd slash offensive process. Yes, and seeing what can get through. Yes. Do you think there is another possibility, Tom, which is that the police saw white Australia, party and they thought oh it's one of ours like maybe they just support like because isn't the point that like cops are general assholes right like just in general cops are assholes so maybe they just thought oh yeah a racist party why don't we let them have a protest like the people who always have trouble protesting and things like people who want to save the planet

they're the people who the police just like to bash up and shut down and pass laws again Like, I don't think... Well, there was the Greens candidate who was actually quite bad. Yeah, I gouged. Yes, exactly. So at least it wasn't somebody who was against genocide or something horrible like that. It was just somebody who wanted whites to live in harmony together. Greens candidates are notably harmless.

I think that's generally... If it's a criticism sometimes leveled at that part of politics, is that they're somewhat ineffective in various ways. Maybe a bit irritating. They wouldn't agree with that. Yeah. So, but here's the thing. It's a genuine mystery as to what, as to what happened. But what's not a mystery, Charles, is that this group seems to want to actually have an influence in Australian politics beyond simply just going and standing ominously outside Parliament. They used to do this with masks on. They're now doing it without masks, but with these sort of black shirts.

And again, the historical residences of wearing black shirts outside of parliament, pretty clear to everyone who studied World War II, the rise of the Nazi. The actual Nazis. There's a little bit of a libertarian in me that's trying to work out what the line for protest should be because I'm very much pro allowing people to sort of gather outside Parliament and voice their concerns about society. I'm also very much against Nazis, literal Nazis in the streets. It's so fascinating. It's not as though they're trying to hide the...

I mean, at the point where you're calling yourself the National Socialist Network. Yeah. I mean, to be fair, that's one word away from National Broadband Network. I mean, which is also something that I've protested against. Maybe they just thought it was the NBN wanting to protest. Who knows? It was a typo. Maybe they thought it was a protest against the NBN.

Yeah, that's right. Why don't we have fiber into our houses, yeah. So what do you do if you've got 60 people who want to be Nazis in your society? What are the action, like quite aside from, like I'm sure Chris Minns will now pass a law that he can then use against climate protesters the next time they roll around. And can we just, can we just note that the New South Wales Supreme Court has actually been very active in carving away bits of the Min's government legislation. I mean, there's been quite a lot decided in court about guaranteeing the right to protest, obviously, as with the bridge march that they allowed to go ahead. Yes, exactly. So, like, how do you navigate that so you don't have no.

Nazis. Like, what you want to prevent is the Nazis from getting any bigger, right? Like, you want, you want them to sort of realize, oh, that was, that was a controversial period of my life. I'm now going to decide to sort of... Become a CEO. Yeah. I'm now going to become... Was it youthful frolic? Yeah. With some pretty funky ideas. And I think you've got to go back to the causes of all this sort of stuff. Like, it's not enough to go, okay, well, let's just ban them. You know, like,

that's not going to get rid of them. It's just going to drive them underground. It also gives them public. I mean, there's a lot of publicity too, and people become martyrs. You know what that? Look, Charles, there's a couple of things you can do. And one of the things that is easiest to do,

and this is very New South Wales-centric, I know, but this is actually a bigger issue in Victoria than it is in New South Wales, is that there are now stricter laws against hate speech. So there are laws against filification of people on the basis of race, religion, a number of other categories. that have been brought in in New South Wales. And so it's not about assembling.

It's not about saying these groups can never meet. It's about saying that if hatred of a particular group is incited, and look, perhaps a ban is saying ban the Jewish lobby does exactly that. Yes. But you retrospectively based on what's actually said, the content of the gathering, you don't ban the gathering before. If you were to use those laws, the other thing, of course, is that they've banned Nazi symbols and various others.

argument. So there are sort of specific Nazi restrictions, which apparently don't, you know, you can, you can't have the symbol, but you can call yourself National Socialist Network, apparently, without any trouble. So I don't quite know what those laws say and where they didn't fall foul of that. But if they had brought out swastikas, it would have been a problem. Could I say, I think a simpler way of dealing with this is to just get rid of Twitter. You know, because you know how the federal government's come in and they've decided to ban social media for under 16s, which basically means that from now on, all our kids will be completely illiterate in being able to identify misinformation until they're 16 and then they'll be swamped

with misinformation that they won't be able to navigate. Or alternatively, they'll lead happy lives, the free of sort of thing, or they'll just get really good at working out how to use VPNs, yeah, which is not particularly complicated. Maybe we should be banning social media for adults. Maybe adults are actually the problem. No, this is what I'm saying is if you're going to ban social media for one segment of the population, maybe ban it because you're saying that's a really bad thing. It's causing harm.

It's the same way that you ban anything that causes harm. Like, we don't let people, I don't know, murder each other. So why would we let them read X? Aren't you worried Charles though? Every time I open X or Twitter or whatever it's called, like it's just, full of shit. You know what? It's just like, it's the equivalent of,

it's the mind equivalent of murder. I got a new phone and I decided every 10 years or so I just reinstall all the applications to stop it from slowing down. I wish I recommended it took, but it takes a long time.

And I didn't, I forgot to install X for several weeks. Oh, brilliant. I didn't know I was so happy. Did you start sort of thinking that humankind was all right? and yeah and i did i was i was happy obviously i've installed it now so i'm miserable again but i have put a limit on social media oh my i've actually put a screen time limit on it all because

it's just it is terrible for you but charles they don't just use x what they use is telegram so telegram the the kind of decentralized messaging app and this is a really tough one because i mean to get all earnest about it for a second telegram is also the app that's used by news organizations to get news into places where there's censorship. I mean, it has an enormously beneficial thing. You also can't really police it. There's no, it's completely decentralized. But that is where the threats of violence against the MPs, the two Sydney MPs,

were made this week by some of the members associated with these groups. So that's where the worst speech is. What do you do with that? Why are people feeling so dissociated and separated from society that they decide? they need to sort of bring out their grievances against other people like Jewish people and stuff like that. What's going on in their lives

that makes them so miserable? Well, Charles, did you see the photos of the people? Like, I know this is a very earnest free speech principle that sunlight is the best disinfectant. Yes. But I actually reckon making those photos larger and publishing them more widely, they looked ridiculous in their black,

uniforms. They look very silly. And if we knew here the people were... But what are you saying? Are you saying that they're sexually frustrated because they can't get a root? Is that what you're saying? No, I'm saying that it's genuinely embarrassing. Like, oh, right. It's like, I mean, as we know, various prominent people have... So what you're saying is every time they held a protest, have blanket coverage of that protest, so everyone laughs at them. Well, that's the thing. I mean, what, you're a Nazi? Really? Yes. Do you not know what they...

I mean, do you remember how embarrassing it was for Dominic Perrite, apparently wearing that outfit? There's no photos of it. Prince Harry, you spend the rest of your life living that stuff down. And I imagine what would happen is, over time, if we gave it blanket coverage, the rallies would get larger and larger and larger. And then we'd end up having to have, like,

whole sports stadiums of Nazi rallies so that we could go and laugh at them. Is that what you're saying? That doesn't sound quite positive. But I mean, Charles... You know, I'm thinking like, we could hold one in Neurham. Oh, could we? Yeah.

I mean, look, I still have the idea that this is not a mainstream group, right? They've been trying to link it to immigration and all this sort of stuff. And we know now that the majority of Australians, you know, want to reduce immigration. So there is a kind of a link there somewhere. But, I mean, even if someone has those views, getting them to wear those shirts and sort of march around, I mean, remember what Charlie Chaplin did in this situation. You made the great dictator. Yes. So what we're going to make is offbeat satirical comment.

Extremely funny, clowning-based, black-shirted... I love the solution to the problem. So the lawyers say we need more laws. The satirists say we need more satire. Well, I mean any satire. Is there satire happening in Australia right now? The legislators say we need more legislation. And the Nazis say we need more Nazis.

Oh, man. So, okay, I, but I, you know what I honestly think, and I know that this is just, I'm sure some sort of like, there's a logical flaw in my argument, right, because I'm just picking my issue and ramrodding it into the whole problem. But I must say, I really honestly think this all stems from the stroll out of any sort of solution around housing. I think all these, this anger that's coming from everywhere at the moment is partly to do with the fact that governments around the world are just completely not paying attention to the thing that's happening in every city around the world. We've discussed this repeatedly before, yes. The rich are buying up everything. It's not the people don't like immigration. It's that they can't get houses.

Yes. And that seems like the easy solution. Yes. Well, I suppose you could build houses, but that seems a bit hard. Oh, come on. Oh, you sound like a socialist saying that. I wouldn't want to do that, particularly if it was a national socialist. Especially if you build them all around the country, like on a national scale of socialists.

Yeah, like the National Broadband Network. Oh, God, I'm still getting very confusing. Okay. So can we say at the end of this, available housing is good and Nazis are bad? Is that, can we at least get contentious around that? like every episode of the chase. People will start thinking that this is an AI generated episode if that becomes. All sounds the same.

I think, I like your idea of blanket coverage of the Nazi rallies for derision's sake. But I think also, I think you're sort of underestimating just how, like, these people are probably not getting enough sex. I think, I'm just putting it out there, I think what you're saying is they're, like, they're willing to make fools of themselves because they've tried everything else, work. I'm thinking a national program of helping them develop better filters for their Tinder profiles, you know, maybe helping them with their game in terms of like coming up with good small talk, you know, approaches in the chat. So when they slide into DMs of people that they're fancy, they don't just get immediately rejected. You know, like, I imagine sliding

to somebody's DM and saying, hey, I'm a Nazi, probably doesn't, you know, here's my profile pick of me at a Nazi rally doesn't he's not going to watch it like this is a great place to work out of way to sort of get them out of it this is a very clever conclusion we've come up with Charles to this whole situation I I applaud your logic yeah sure I'll have more sex I just want to point out before we finish the podcast yes the the biggest fan in the history of the world of encouraging Nazis to have a whole lot more sex was I know Fittler um but for that small point He left in a... He left in a...

Tiny, tiny. It was explicitly in favour of propagating the Ian race. Other than that, great conclusion. Yeah. Look, at the point where anyone's looking to this podcast for actual solutions, we are doomed. Go have your marches, frankly, at that point.

I just don't like them ruining black shirts. I like wearing black shirts really suit me. Do you think that that means, like, theater crews will now not... They can't. No, black shirts. Black shirts are over. Newtown is basically over.

Melbourne's baristas are going to have to. Fitzroy. Everyone will start having to wear colors. I want to win back to black shirt. Have we mentioned that? I think we've mentioned that on a previous podcast as well. Oh, God, we're repeating ourselves. Okay, let's just go.

Then again, so are the National Socialist Network. Those are not new ideas. We're part of the iconic class network. Catch you later.