The Chris Cuomo Project - Corruption Is Everything

Episode Date: June 30, 2026

Chris Cuomo argues that corruption—not inflation, immigration, or the culture war—is the issue that could reshape American politics. Using Jared Kushner’s business dealings as a case study, Cuom...o explains why he believes the Trump family’s financial relationships deserve far greater scrutiny and why anti-corruption should become the defining issue of the next election. Cuomo examines Kushner’s investments, foreign business ties, ethics concerns, and the broader question of whether America’s political system has become too comfortable with public officials and their families profiting from power. He also explains why he believes Democrats are missing an opportunity by failing to make corruption the centerpiece of their political message, arguing that government integrity remains one of the few issues capable of uniting voters across the political spectrum. Join The Chris Cuomo Project on YouTube for ad-free episodes, early releases, exclusive access to Chris, and more: https://www.youtube.com/@chriscuomo/join Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Visit https://drinkag1.com/ccp to get a free Morning Person Hat and free AG1 Flavor Sampler in your Welcome Kit with your first AG1 subscription (an $82 value!). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There's this beautiful little island off the Albanian coast called Sazan. And Jared Kushner wants it. So he took his Saudi billions, and he decided he and Ivanka would buy the island and build a luxury resort. And then like clockwork, just a few weeks after Trump wins a second term in the White House, Albanese Prime Minister grants Jared's company strategic investor status. So permitting and approvals are expedited to help the American Prince develop his new island. Now this island is an Albanian national treasure, some of the last pristine coastline in the Mediterranean.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Its waters were a national marine park protected from development until Albania changed the law to let Jared Kushner build his resort. And it turns out Savannah that ordinary Albanians are not fans of this arrangement. There are, right now, massive national anti-corruption protests, like tens of thousands of people in the streets of the capital, Tarana. They're calling it the Flamingo Revolution, all sparked by opposition to Jared Kushner's land deal. Now Albania's anti-corruption police are getting involved.
Starting point is 00:01:22 They froze a bank account controlled by two of Jared's investors, both Syrian billionaires. Now, do you think Jared Kushner would get special island? buying privileges if he weren't the president's son-in-law? Isn't he supposed to be doing diplomacy? Not shady land deals? And it's not just Jared. Listen to this.
Starting point is 00:01:49 The son of the other Middle East envoy is raising billions from the Emirates for the president's crypto business while the president grants the Emirates the rights to our most sensitive technology. Your tax dollars are backing a Trump family tungsten mine in Kazakhstan.
Starting point is 00:02:09 They are literally the elites they pretend to hate. The same folks who tried so hard to cover up the Epstein files. And listen, here's the bottom line. If you're involved in any of this, next year, you'll be raising your right hand and swearing to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth so help you God in front of the United States Congress.
Starting point is 00:02:37 Bah. So much good stuff in here from Senator Alsop until the end. Man, I've had it with the lawfare. Man, he's not going to get to the bottom of anything. He's not going to put anybody in jail. Nothing good has ever come from any congressional investigation. It's all grandstanding. It's a circus. That part sucks. That's him pandering to what's wrong. But everything else should be illegal. How is it legal for the president? to make so much money while in office. How is it legal? Forget about right.
Starting point is 00:03:12 We all know it's wrong. How can it be legal for the family members of sitting officials to be getting in on government transactions? How is it legal? Look, it's disgustingly unethical. Now we get to the next problem. Why doesn't MAGA give a shit about this? Oh, because they all do it.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Fuck you. You don't believe in shit. You're not a patriot. That's what you should say to them. Oh, well, you know, they all do it. Fuck you. You're not a patriot. You don't believe in the institutions of this country.
Starting point is 00:03:48 You don't believe in what we're about. You don't want anything to be to any standard except your own advantage. Fuck you. That's what you should say to them. And I'll tell you why. Just put your hands up when you say it, because they may swing. Probably not because I think they're all show no go. But it doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Here's why. If you're a patriot, if you're a real one, you're against them. this. It's offensive on its face. And if you're a real one, your standard of your behavior isn't, well, they do worse. Will they do the same thing? You sound like a stupid child. You sound like a middling child who's explaining not doing well. These are the same people that went bullshit about Hunter Biden. And by the way, what Hunter Biden did was wrong. What I think should have been off limits about Hunter Biden is you people shouldn't be making fun of somebody because of them being an inveterate addict, you know, crazy crackhead antics. That's not something that should be part of our national discourse
Starting point is 00:04:46 where it's okay to like drag somebody because of their addiction. I don't want to see those pictures. I don't need to see that shit. That shouldn't be part of our political dialogue. That's pathetic. And it's pathetic of people who want to make that a character assessment. The guy is sick. Okay, he has mental illness. And one of the manifestations is, his addiction. Okay? Well, I don't know. He put out a good video the other day. People with mental illness aren't stupid. People who are addicts aren't stupid. People have different sides to them. Here's my point. If you want to go after Hunter Biden because he was using his daddy's name to get consulting contracts that he probably wouldn't have gotten without it, then how the fuck do you say
Starting point is 00:05:25 nothing about this? How? You suck. That's my point. Second point. Third point, really, because I don't like that Osoft finished the way he did, but I like the way he started a lot. Two is go after these MAGA people, man, about this stuff and be like, be consistent. Because look, we got to agree, we're all right about what's wrong. Don't just see it in Hunter Biden. Don't just see it in Jared Kushner. Jared Kushner should be prosecuted.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Okay? this should be illegal and he should be prosecuted. But it's probably not illegal and he's not going to be prosecuted. And maybe if he knew it were illegal and you can be prosecuted, maybe he wouldn't want to do it. But for Ivanka, of course Albania is it. And how pathetic is it that we have to know about something called the Flamingo Revolution in Albania of all places?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Like that is like some crown jewel of democracy. We do nothing about it. And Albania is standing up for this kind of corruption in a corrupt place? Hey, I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. Thanks for being here. We're talking about how we get things better. And here's the good news.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Here's the good news. Maga's done. Maga is done. You guys fucked it up. You were right about what was wrong and you did shit about it. And you put in the worst people you could find. And you ruined it. And now the reaction formation to MAGA is going to get it done.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Now look, they got problems. This DSA term is tough in American government. Now, it's not as tough as you may think or as Trump wants you to think by just saying it's straight communism. Why? Because one, he doesn't know the difference between socialism and communism. But that's also not a discussion you want to be having in America. I mean, it's a little fucked up that the president of the United States is too
Starting point is 00:07:35 stupid to know the difference between communism and socialism, but, you know, we've been dealing with that for a while. The problem is that the American people don't know the difference, and the American people don't know what democratic socialism is. And it's not as big a deal in the Democratic Party because they have a lot of college-educated people who are using this as their MAGA, using this as their disruptive vehicle for populist outrage, and they are educated, and they're not as a afraid of the term democratic socialism because they know it doesn't mean no more capitalism. They know that it's really about making changes to how corporations and the wealthy get preference in our society. It's just choices. So you'll see the numbers going up among
Starting point is 00:08:25 college educated people that you're not going to get me to not vote for these people just because of the word socialism. Let me see what they mean. Let me see how they apply it because they have more education. They're less easily conditioned. Now, people will say, oh, what are you trying to say? If you don't have a college education, you're stupid? No, I'm not trying to say that at all. I know plenty of people of college educations who are idiots, and I know plenty of people who don't, who are really smart. What I'm saying is, we know, as a matter of fact, that demographically, people who are college educated are less susceptible to culture wars. So I think there's something to it, okay? And it doesn't mean better or not better. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:09:03 different, okay, and different tactics are going to work. And being underemployed is a huge outrage vehicle for college educated people. And that's what matters to them. Just like with MAGA, it wasn't just about down with brown and white fright. There were just a lot of people who, many of them used to be Democrats, who were like, look, this economy's not working for me by design and I want it disrupted. That was a big piece of MAGA. that piece no longer belongs to it anymore because they've only made it worse. And now that peace is coming for them and there's other things in it. And some of it I don't like.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Some of it I understand. And it's going to be a big deal in the midterms. It's not just New York City. It's not just people wanting anti-Semitism, wanting to destroy capitalism. That's not what it is. And it doesn't end in New York City. It's just beginning in New York City. And you're going to see it and you're going to feel it.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And it's going to be reflected in the midterms. And you may even wind up being a part of it. Now, look, I do think there are challenges. Like, you know, you look at Azora Mandani or other people want to New York City. I think it's a problem that they are too casual about Islamism. Not Islam, not being Muslim. I don't have any problem with people being part of an organized religion any more than I do any other one. I don't want you putting on me.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I don't want it to be a rule in our society. society. I don't want any religiosity as part of our governmental system or our political culture. I don't. This is a secular society. It's got to stay that way. I feel the same way about Christians as I do about Muslims in that regard. Okay? No, Islamism more violent. I don't want to hear it. Okay. Every war has got a religious aspect to it. I don't want to hear it. Um, not in America. Okay? The law is very clear. First Amendment, very clear. What do they put first? Freedom of worship and freedom from worship, okay? No church and state. Number one. Support for the Chris Cuomo project comes from AG1. Baby, AG1 has been neglecting me, but now they're back and I'm happy that they
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Starting point is 00:12:28 first AG1 subscription. It's an $82 value. That's drink AG1.com slash CCP for the Chris Cuomo project. Drink ag1.com slash CCP. Corruption? I think you need anti-corruption laws. I really do. What Kushner is doing, what Trump's sons are doing, you're doing a deal for tungsten,
Starting point is 00:12:54 which is an important precious metal for making chips. I'm all for making chips. We've got to take it away from Taiwan. We've got to put it back here. America has to dominate this space. AI. we have to own it, not just in the development. It is a public resource for us.
Starting point is 00:13:10 It's like electricity, okay? It's not like just the new phone, the new gadget. This is like electricity. This is going to change everything. It's going to be in everything. It's got to be regulated. It can't just be owned by people who want to exploit it in the private sector for what works for them in that moment.
Starting point is 00:13:28 Look how that worked with social media. Look at how the algorithms are destroying any ability to have decency in our political debate. imagine what they'll do with AI. No way. You cannot trust these fuckers. You got to regulate it. It's got to be dealt with differently than other assets. It has to.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Look, you can make the same argument that Norway, you know, does with oil, okay? It belongs to the people. I feel the same way about this. Technology belongs to the people. I believe that. You know, we didn't let the airwaves. This is the same thing as the airwaves for like broadcast television. we've developed this new way of doing things.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Just like that was new way of doing things. Said a radio, now you have a picture. Now you have AI. It should belong to the people. I really believe that. Why? Corruption. I mean, look at what Trump's sons are doing.
Starting point is 00:14:21 So you make a deal with Kazakhstan to get the stuff that you need to make chips. Good, good. I like the deal. Now his sons take positions in companies that get the money from the deal. Are you fucking kidding? me. It's disgusting. And they do it right in your face. They don't even hide it. And none of the MAGA people say shit. The same people who said all that stuff about Hunter Biden don't say anything about it. That's why MAGA is dying right there. That's why. And you are right to be pissed off about this. And you are right to be
Starting point is 00:14:53 anti-Maga because of this. And you are right to want to be desperate for this to change. But just make sure you change. All right, just because this is a new low doesn't mean it's as low as we can go. right? I mean, Hunter Biden was doing that shit, and his dad's a Democrat, right? Now, it's nothing compared to this. I get it, but that's the problem with precedent. They should have jumped on that shit then, and now we have to jump on this. Jared Kushner should be prosecuted because what he's doing should be illegal. Howard Lucknick should be prosecuted for letting his son and Trump's sons benefit from deals that he's helping to do for the American government. He should be prosecuted. But he lied about what he lied about or whatever he wasn't truthful about or however you want to put it allegedly about Epstein. This is a hundred times worse. What we know is a hundred times worse than what we suspect. I don't know. I don't know what he had to do with Epstein. I don't know what he was okay with. I don't know what he knew about. I don't know. But I know he has everything to do with this. And this sucks. And look, trafficking of women. I mean, come on. How much more disgusted can you get? I get it. but I don't need to shoot at ifs and maybes when I've got definitelys on this. This should all be illegal. And I think that you can actually make a case. I don't think you can make a case as easily against Trump's sons or against Kushner
Starting point is 00:16:21 because I don't think it's illegal enough and specifically enough. Maybe, but maybe not. But what Lutnik is doing is absolutely a violation of being a public official. He's absolutely allowing a preference to people in his family and other families that he cares about. And it's disgusting. Jared Kushner, what he's doing should have him in prison. Okay? Now, why is that not fair to Kushner?
Starting point is 00:16:52 Well, because it's not really illegal. And it's not like he knows that this is illegal and he's doing it anyway. He knows it's wrong. He knows that it is an unfair advantage, but that's all he's ever known in his life. He was raised by rich parents. He was an underperforming student. He was never known as special. His brother is the one with the investment genius.
Starting point is 00:17:13 He has been raising money off the back of his marriage that he has never had any really good reason to have given him. He has a position within the federal government that he has no business having. He was a joke in the first term. The Abraham Accords weren't his idea. He's a functionary. He's getting worked by the,
Starting point is 00:17:35 the Iranians. Nobody takes him seriously. This is embarrassing. He is everything that's wrong with America. There are other things that are wrong that he doesn't represent, but everything he represents is something that's wrong with America, except the fact that he's Jewish. And I don't like seeing Jews being tarred for their faith, for what they are. I don't like it. But I'm also not attacking him on that basis. I'm attacking him despite the fact that he's Jewish, not because he's Jewish. And I don't believe he's doing this kind of deal because he's Jewish, which some bigots made. I don't believe that. I believe that he's doing it because he can. And because he doesn't have the ethics or the morals to know that he should stay away from it. And that's why you need the
Starting point is 00:18:23 law to create the standard for scumbags like him who don't understand the standard otherwise. Oh, come on, you do the same thing. No, I have demonstrably not done the same thing. I had a father and a brother. And by the way, I would never even run for office. Why? Because we got to be able to do better than me. Okay, I am flawed. I have tons of failures.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I have lots of struggles and personality deficits that would make it hard for me to function in and out of politics and in government. There's a lot that I believe I don't know and I'm not good at that I think you need to know and be good at. So I'm not pushing myself. I'm certainly not saying I'm better. I'm saying that this guy should not. not be in the position of power that he is and he shouldn't be able to get this kind of preference
Starting point is 00:19:05 that he's getting. And that's true for Trump's sons. So once you see that this is all wrong, you have to understand, well, then why does it continue? It continues because MAGA is stuck. Maga is stuck. Maga picked Trump and now has to live with them and can't admit that they're wrong because then that would mean that they're wrong about everything. And they can't handle that. That's their problem. why the Republicans, MAGA, whatever you want to call them, are likely going to get the shit kicked out of them in the midterms. If the Democrats don't find a way to screw it up with this DSA term, I don't believe DSA is a big enough boogeyman as a term unless candidates all across
Starting point is 00:19:57 the country sign up as DSA and say stupid shit about Jews and getting rid of capitalism and destroying private property. If that keeps happening, then despite the fact that they should have all the high ground, they may not win elections. There is that chance. There is that potential. I don't see that. Why? Because I think it's much more akin to what we're seeing in New York City. The idea that New York City is filled with crazy lefties, look, the state, when you look at it, statewide doesn't break down that differently from any other big state. You have, you know, look, I mean, I know it goes Democratic. Okay, I got it. Texas goes Republican. I mean, it doesn't mean that it's right or it's wrong. It's just how it is. But there is a mix within it. Okay, you have lawmakers from both
Starting point is 00:20:51 sides in it. You have divisions of power within state government. So I don't see it as big of a boogeyman, but I do believe that anti-corruption is a really big avenue. And I do believe that. And I do believe that, that MAGA has gifted the mantle of anti-corruption to the resistance movement. And there's nothing about being a socialist as, look, as much as I'm not for socialism in this country, social democracy is something different. But again, you're dealing with nuance. And when you're explaining and nuanced, you're losing in American politics. It's got to be very obvious, okay? I do believe that the Trump administration is so dirty and in your face dirty. and destructive of institutions
Starting point is 00:21:33 that they have gifted cleaning it up to the left. And I think there's a great opportunity for that. Nobody's family should have anything to do with anything that is happening with the American government. Zero. You should not work within the government
Starting point is 00:21:55 if you're a family member. You shouldn't. Bobby Kennedy should not have been the Attorney General for his brother. Jared Kushner should not be in there. I should not be my brother's attorney general if he were in public office. No way. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:13 It's just a conflict. It's just a conflict. It just is. And we have to do better than what's been happening in that regard in this country. And I think the corruption is everything for the American voter. That's why I'm bringing this up. Look, I mean, there's several reasons. one because it's just embarrassing at this point.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Albania has to tell us that something's corrupt. Really? I'm telling you because the chip stuff matters too much to fuck with it this way by letting Trump's kids cash in on something that is absolutely vital to your kids and my kids' future. And I'm not saying that as a cliche. AI and who controls it and how much control you have is everything. It's bigger than nukes. Bigger than nukes.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Why? because you've got to give deference to different levels of nuclear capabilities because they can all be bad. Here, whoever is driving the economic engine of AI wins. And I don't want us to drive it just because I want us to win,
Starting point is 00:23:14 which I do as an American, as an American, but because it's too dangerous. And I trust America. I do. You know, you roll your eyes. So who are you going to trust? France?
Starting point is 00:23:26 like how do you know that that's not going to become a Muslim state at some point you know I again not Muslim Islamist state I misspoke okay um and the distinction matters and we have to learn okay Christian is not the same as crazy Christian nationalist okay not the same thing not the same thing okay um saying Muslim is not the same same is extreme Islamist, not the same. But I trust us, and it matters. And that's why this anti-corruption matters. They should not have given Elon Musk that kind of access to our government databases and him letting his buddies from Palantir get in there and get access to our databases and who knows what they did. I'm not against the guy being a trillionaire.
Starting point is 00:24:20 I'm against a lot of people not being able to afford a medical emergency. Is that about corruption? Yeah, it is. Why? Because you've allowed private entities within healthcare and within our corporate sector to rig the system almost entirely to their own advantage. And a lot of this is choice. Why is there a different corporate income tax than the one that I pay? It's a preference.
Starting point is 00:24:48 It's not a right. It's a privilege. Why? Because of their value to society. They're not giving that value anymore. There are too many people who are underemployed because it's been skewed towards an investor-based economy and it's all related. Jared Kushner is the face of that kind of obvious preferential privilege and corruption and unfair advantage. He is everything that's wrong with this country.
Starting point is 00:25:21 There are other things that are wrong with this country that everything about him is what's wrong with this country. There are other things that are wrong about the country that he doesn't. doesn't represent. But everything he represents to me is something that is wrong with this country. And you have to see it like that. Because we've got to stop it. And this mediocre white male who has never been distinguished as an investor who had huge problems that he needed to be bailed out of, sound familiar. And now he's getting bailed out by Saudi money. He's doing deals in Albania because of his wife because of who his father-in-law is. Whitkoff's son is raising money for Trump's crypto businesses.
Starting point is 00:26:05 You should have no private business if you want to serve the people. You should not be able to invest in stocks if you're a member of Congress. What the hell are we doing? Corruption is everything. If you don't get that right, if people can't trust that the people in power are there for them primarily. Look, there's always going to be a little bit of shine. But where it is now is that most of the people in positions of power are millionaires,
Starting point is 00:26:38 and they weren't when they got into it. What? I think it's a problem if you're getting in there and you're already a millionaire. I think it's a problem. I don't have any problem with you being a millionaire. I just don't think that all of our representatives should be millionaires. I think we should be better than that. I know that's how it was with the founding fathers.
Starting point is 00:26:55 I think we should be better than that. I do. And I really think we should be better than that. than you going in there one way and coming out a lot richer. I think that being in public service should cost you money. I don't think you should make a good living while you're in public service. I don't. Get in, get out.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Okay? Get in. Do what you can. Get out. That's what public service should be about. It shouldn't be that you're in there 10 terms. Shouldn't be in there that you're in there five terms. It shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Shouldn't be. I think three terms is plenty. And look, we're not going to be able to mandate it with a constitutional amendment. We can't get a constitutional amendment on anything. I don't want to be cynical about it. I wish I were wrong.
Starting point is 00:27:39 But I don't see it happening. I don't even see you getting out of the house with 60-something percent, 66 percent, whatever it is. I don't think you're going to get out of it with a supermajority. I don't even think you get that level. So why would I push it? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:56 Like when Buttigieg talks about the electoral college and all this, look, I get it. Academically, it's smart. I get the theoretical argument for it. I do. I also look, I get some of the pushback about representation and, you know, big state dominance and how do you keep it equal among the states? And I also get people going back and saying,
Starting point is 00:28:12 why should it be equal among the states? Why should it be equal among the states? When the population is so overweighted in the big states, well, why? Why should it be equal representation? Why should Iowa have as many senators as Texas? And I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But, you know, that's the system. That's what we had. Well, we should change it. All right, then change it. But I think it's going to be really hard because you need a constitutional amendment. And I don't think you're going to get it. Now, do I think we should? Does it really matter?
Starting point is 00:28:42 I mean, I can make arguments for it either way. But corruption is something we can all get around and know that we are all right about what's wrong. Jared Kushner shouldn't be given a government preference for his investments. Don Jr. and Eric shouldn't be getting preferences for their investments. They should not have anything to do. with government deals and being beneficiaries of them. You know it and I know it. I tell this story all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:11 A guy came up to me who I know and I love and said, hey, this guy approached me and said that the state pays way too much for condiments. ketchup, mustard, mayo. Relish. And I was like, oh, okay. You don't say. He's like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:26 And he's in that business and he thinks that he could save the state like 30, 40 percent and they spend millions and millions of dollars on it. It's really. So I called this guy who worked for my brother. My brother was governor at the time. And I was like, hey, this guy called me and he said this and this. And he's like, yeah, you don't want to be anywhere near that. And I was like, well, no, no, I'm not going to have any financial stake in it.
Starting point is 00:29:48 But, you know, I just want to know who to connect the guy with. He's like, yeah, you know, I'll talk to him, but stay away from it. And I thought about it a little bit. And I went back to my guy and I said, look, you know, I get it. It just gets messy. And I don't want anything for it. And it's just easier if you just have them go to a lobbyist and see if they can get in there that way. Now, look, would it have been better for the state if I could have shortcut a way for the state to save money on something that it was going to get the same way?
Starting point is 00:30:22 Yeah, you could argue that. But the conflict would have been there, even if I wasn't getting a dime for it. But it would still smell a little bad, right? And I see that. So I didn't do it. so it didn't happen. Why? Because it's just better that way. Just stay out of it.
Starting point is 00:30:41 Don't, don't, if it looks bad, if it could look bad, then don't do it. Trump is the obvious. It's like if it's not illegal, if it's not a felony, then it's fine. It's disgusting how much money he's made since he's been in there. And he's doing it right in front of your face. And look, I don't blame him per se because this is who he is. This is who his son-in-law is, this is who his daughter is, who his kids are.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But I think it's disgusting because, because Maga said it was going to be about something else. I think it's disgusting because the people who said they were about something else and went after Hunter Biden and went after the Democrats for it having said, shit about this. I think it's disgusting. And I think they deserve the beating that they're likely going to get in the midterms. And I hope that that beating isn't just punitive because, again, like I started, I'll finish.
Starting point is 00:31:22 I don't, I'm not high on John Alsoff said you're going to raise your right hand. Who are you? You people are not really that much better. You know, you protect your own. You've got some shady shit there also. So you guys are too much about advantage against the other side. And look, I'm not saying the two parties are even, but that's a really low bar that you're not better than MAGA.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You're not better than Trump. I'm just saying I don't want Congress to be in the business of prosecuting the Trump administration. If there are real cases to make made, then have real prosecutions. But I don't want Congress to be doing it. I want Congress to be passing laws to make lives better for the many. Deal with health care. All right. You want to have hearings, have hearings about why these verticals in health care are okay.
Starting point is 00:32:02 They've done a little bit on it, but they haven't done anything about it. Raise your hand if you own this. Raise your hand if you also own that. Raise your hand if you also own this. So the health insurance companies also own the pharmacies, also own the benefit managers, also own this, also on that. Yeah, it's fucked up. Pass a law.
Starting point is 00:32:20 Don't allow it. Break them up. See what I'm saying? Focus on that. Pass the anti-corruption laws and then prosecute people who break them. But just going back, I mean, then it never ends. That's how we got here. You go after Trump for his people doing stupid shit
Starting point is 00:32:38 with people who said they had foreign opposition research in Russia this and that. You know, they definitely shouldn't have been taking those meetings and stupid people doing stupid things. And now look where we are. It's all they talk about is going after one another. And we couldn't even get the Epstein files released. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:32:55 If it's about which side is worse, nothing gets better. Be about what's better. Jared Kushner sucks for what he's doing, and he probably knows it. And then he gets to go and be part of negotiating with Iran, this guy. Whitkoff, a commercial real estate guy? Really? That's the best the United States of America can do? And you wonder why the regime seems to be wiping their ass with our memorandum of understanding?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Oh, well, you know, at some point Trump's just going to bomb the shit. Well, Trump ain't going to do shit. Okay, he's not in the military. He ducked it. So you're going to bomb, you're going to kill innocence. You're not going to give a shit just like the schoolgirls. I mean, that doesn't bother you, Maga, that you killed 160-something schoolgirls,
Starting point is 00:33:41 and you just let it go. They just lied to you, just lied by omission. Oh, it's sitting on a head says to desk. Bullshit, you're just hoping we'll forget. Never forget. We've got to be better than what we oppose in this country, and we're not killing school kids, not owning it, letting our allies do things that they shouldn't be doing
Starting point is 00:34:04 doesn't have to be genocide to be too much. It doesn't have to be a straight up crime for it to be corrupt. His kids should not be benefiting from their father as president. Seriously, you need me to tell you that. Obviously, yes. So Senator Alsoft is right, and you should see this because this is what's going to win the midterms. And you should own it,
Starting point is 00:34:33 and you should engage in these kinds of, conversations with these people and you say, you tell me how this is okay. And once they say, look, it's not okay, but no, no, no, but let's just stop there. This isn't okay. Let's make it illegal. Let's agree on that. You look at these healthcare verticals. You tell me this is okay. I don't think it's okay. Good. Then let's push them to deal with that. I have a college degree. I'm a barista in Starbucks. That's fucked up. I agree. Good. Let's do something about underemployment. That's where we got to get. Call out what's wrong. Call out what. what's right, not right and left, right and wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And let's agree that we're right about what's wrong. That's where change comes from. Not which is worse. What will be better? Thank you for subscribing and following. Thank you for being with me here on the Chris Cuomo Project. Thank you for subscribing the Cuomo Crime Time. We're having a lot of interesting conversations over there about how there are aspects to cases where you think you know,
Starting point is 00:35:38 but we actually don't know. And I'll see you. in the morning at SXM Radio, and I'll see you at night on News Nation. Thank you for being with us, and if you care about branding yourself as an independent, which is what I want, so we can crowdsource our money, and we can give it to people who deserve it, show that you're independent, show that you're a free agent, show that you're a critical thinker. Forget the parties. Forget about fealty to a party. Be about being a critical thinker. Being independent. That's more than enough.

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