The Chris Cuomo Project - Cuomo On The Couch: It Is What It Is
Episode Date: March 16, 2023In a candid, unfiltered talk from his living room couch, Chris Cuomo explores the concept of “it is what it is,” and how to accept the lesson that there is no lesson. Follow and subscribe to The ...Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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This time, there is no fix.
This time, it's the reality of when it simply is what it is.
What do you do then?
I'm Chris Cuomo, and it's something I've definitely struggled with before.
In fact, I'm struggling with it right now.
And welcome to this episode of Cuomo on the Couch.
Aptly named, though not creative.
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i don't even know what it means sometimes i pull it apart hey listen this guy is what it is
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even looked it up by the way i did a little research like it is what it is you know you
can't even like track the history of the etymology of this thing it is what it is
uh what does that mean some things can't be made into something else.
They can't be changed.
They can't be fixed.
It is what it is.
And that's hard.
But it is what it is.
And you have to accept that.
That this just sucked.
Them twisting my words
when they know I didn't mean
what they twisted it to say I meant.
Oh, but you said it.
Oh, and you don't know how I meant it?
Get over here, I'll kill you.
No, I'm not going there.
That person just threatened to kill me.
Context.
Affect.
You know what the deal is,
but you twist it.
Why?
To your own advantage.
I get it.
I get the game.
And so what can I do?
Nothing.
Why?
Because in this culture,
if you're explaining, you're losing. So
you have to sometimes just accept that it is what it is. And that can be bad.
That sucked. That was a loss. Sometimes in life, when you lose, you learn. If you're lucky,
and I don't believe in luck, but you know what I mean.
If you make the most of the opportunity,
of the chance, of the outcome, sometimes you're not.
Or if you want to look at it a different way,
sometimes the lesson is that there's no lesson.
You're not going to get better from this one.
You're not really going to learn anything from this one.
get better from this one. You're not really going to learn anything from this one.
I read something recently that helped me understand this.
It just sucked to be outside in the rain. I was freezing. Well, then why didn't you put shoes on?
Because I didn't want them to get wet. Why didn't you put socks on? Because I was lazy. I didn't want to. I didn't even want to go outside, but I had to. So I just did it. It sucked.
It's freezing cold and raining. It would have been better if you had a coat on. No, not really.
It would have been freezing cold and raining. And then I would have had just a wet coat that I would
have to deal with when I went inside. I wasn't going to be out for a long time. Got the truck
wet. You know, it was just everything about it just sucked and I didn't want to do it.
it's just everything about it just sucked and I didn't want to do it. Sometimes it is what it is.
And the best thing to do, and remember, it's all relative, right? Because I'm not saying that this is something that just puts a smile on your face and just gets you to a better place.
Next play. You ever play sports? This is why I love sports, by the way.
It has very little to do with sport itself and everything for the metaphorical value of the life lesson.
Miss a free throw?
One of the most classic things you'll see, especially after I pointed out if you're not a huge consumer of basketball.
Guys miss a shot under the basket.
The other guy, the other team gets the rebound.
guys miss a shot under the basket the other guy the other team gets the rebound the chance that the guy who's standing right there who just missed that bunny that little layup
grabs and fouls by trying to steal the ball from the other team is like exponentially increased why
because you're pissed that you just missed the shot and you're desperate to make up for it. Sometimes it is what it is.
And struggling in a bad moment just makes it worse or extends it or delays it.
Sometimes it's okay to forget.
Sometimes it's okay to just move on.
Sometimes you will have to take the L.
For better or for worse, righteous or not righteous, sometimes you have to embrace the suck.
It is what it is. This is different than an earlier iteration of my life's travails and ups and downs. So what? Now what? That's different. So what now what is a tool
for perspective training that helps you deal with optionality and behavior and outcomes.
And outcomes.
Well, I made a proposition and it was rejected.
Okay.
Get over it.
It's not about your feelings.
What does it really mean?
And what are you going to do about it?
Where you have options, that's a great tool.
Okay.
Oh, I just ate two sandwiches for lunch.
So now I might as well just forget the diet and eat pizza tonight.
No.
You screwed up your diet.
So what?
It's not the end of the world.
Now what?
It's just a step.
It's incremental.
It's not a big deal.
That's not always the case.
My father's dead.
This was terrible what happened. He, she, it, they, whatever, doesn't love me anymore.
Sucks. It's horrible. Tree smashed my car. Dog died. Jobs gone. Friends went without me.
Jobs gone.
Friends went without me.
Sometimes it is what it is.
And it doesn't have to be fair.
Because the only thing to do is to let it go and go to the next. Not everything is a lesson.
Sometimes you're not going to take a lesson, except that there is no lesson,
and you got to keep going. There is no fix. There is no way to spin it where it's not what
it seemed like what it was. It is what it is, and that's all it's going to be.
It is what it is, and that's all it's going to be.
And even if it's not okay, you have to let it go.
I suck at this so uniquely, and yet I have seen other practitioners of it,
and I have been told this many, many times.
And I know that it's true, and I know it is a great form of self-care.
You will take a loss.
It will be bad.
It will be right.
It will be wrong.
It'll be fair.
It'll be unfair.
Sometimes there is nothing to do but keep going.
Sometimes it is literally almost an act of survival. You ain't going to thrive in this moment. Things ain't getting better. And they're not even necessarily getting worse.
It's just, it is what it is. And you know, trite but true, that has been my experience. And I'll tell you
something, it's more valuable as a realization than I fully realized for a long time because
I would always agonize and antagonize and try to keep things going or make something of it or do
something with it or fix it or this. It's not always the way to go. Sometimes it is what it is. Can you relate? Let me know.
Comment, send me feedback on it because look, you know why I'm doing this, right? I'm doing this
because I feel that it's a motivator for me to keep trying and grind.
And that I'm hoping that one of the purposes of the pain or the pursuit is that maybe it's helpful to you for me to explain my own travail so that even if I wasn't able to figure it
out, I wasn't able to get to a better place on a particular point or issue, maybe you
will by understanding what I now get after the fact,
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