The Chris Cuomo Project - Listener Calls: Trump Special Counsel, Global Oil Market, Counterfeit Chris
Episode Date: January 12, 2023In a special episode of The Chris Cuomo Project, Chris responds to listener calls about changes to the U.S. electoral system, the Special Counsel investigating Donald Trump, the global oil market, a c...ounterfeit Chris Cuomo, and more. If you’d like to ask Chris a question, call (516) 412-6307. Leave your name, location, phone number, email address, and your brief question, and it may be addressed in an upcoming show. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Hi, Chris. This is Chris from California. Love the show. I started reading Marcus
Rebellious and still seeing him after listening to you. So thank you. I had a request. I hear you talking to your guests about multiple political parties, ranked choice voting, proportional allocation, instead of winner-take-all, all that election stuff. I agree with all of it, but I don't want to start believing my own BS. So I want to ask that you speak with an expert who can deep dive with you
on this specifically, the advantages, the disadvantages, where it could fall down,
where you do prevent that, how could it be implemented in the U.S. realistically,
what can we learn from other countries? Not just a yes-no argument, but an actual
deep dive and analysis. Thanks again. Great show.
You are a critical thinker, and I appreciate that.
You should want a debate.
You should want the ideas
laid out with a plus minus.
And I am an expert.
What I'm saying is
the first step really
would be about people
leaving the parties,
Democrat and Republican.
OK, why?
We got to get away
from team and tribe.
George Washington said,
don't be about parties, be a nation. That is all. Those are his
words. We have to get back to that, where you're voting for people and ideas and what works for
you, not some groupthink that's a function of some scare campaign that makes the other things so
scary that you stick with what you want just because the other is worse. That's what I'm
talking about. Systemic change will be harder because you're not in control the same way. But the more choice that we see,
and ranked choice voting is a great way for it, it allows the extremes more, there's more parity.
The extremes can't dominate because of a magnified minority in a primary. And you wind up getting
less extreme candidates. And you wind up getting less extreme
candidates. And that's a good thing because this is not an extreme country. That's why the fastest
growing part of the electorate are people who are neither Democrat nor Republican. All right?
So that's what I got. And I will keep discussing and we will debate and we will have experts.
Chris, good morning. This is Frank from Claremont, Florida. I just listened to your
comments on the special counsel within the public's interest. And yes, I understand clearly
what you're trying to say and attempting to say, I mean, but not doing anything in my humble opinion
is worse. Someone has to teach the country that the law must be respected,
and Mr. Trump must pay for what he did, which is actual out-and-out freezing.
It is my humble opinion.
It may continue to delight the country,
but the right-wingers must understand that they must be educated and know exactly why.
This is a process. It will take a process of different people and different entities to
instruct the entire country, and this is what must be done. Thank you for listening to me.
entire country. And this is what must be done. Thank you for listening to me.
Listen, I hear you. Treason? Come on. I get that you don't like it. I'm not saying you're wrong not to like his behavior. I think there are a lot of things about the former president's behavior
that you could easily dislike. I've never seen voters forgive somebody as much as they have
Trump. I think it speaks to their desperation. I think it speaks to their
desperation for better and how much contempt they have for the system and the people in it.
I think it also speaks to some minority or fringe interests within his support base.
You know, the idea that they're all deplorables. Come on. Yeah, look, I keep telling you,
single-factor explanations, you know,
painting everything with the same brush, it's always a mistake. You know, it's anathema to
critical thinking. But there's a reason that Trump is meeting with people who are into anti-Semitism
and QAnon and all these different things. He keeps doing it. Oh, he didn't know. He didn't.
Well, then how come he doesn't randomly meet with labor leaders or randomly meet with people who are in favor of radical environmentalism?
Or, you know, why is it every time he makes a mistake, it's because he's meeting with bad people?
You know, come on.
That level of forgiveness, I've never seen anything like it in politics.
And I think it's a sad commentary on where we are.
Now, special counsel, just let the DOJ do the investigation.
Oh, well, they wanted to remove any semblance of impropriety.
Come on, man, that's Merrick Garland getting a pass as much as it is anything else.
You know, this guy, I don't know why he took the job.
Because, you know, we saw what happened with Mueller.
If you don't have a case that is really impressive of a major crime,
you know, to play with the idea of what the standard was for impeachment, right? High crimes and misdemeanors, you know, in Britain and then
here with the founding fathers, they knew it had to be a high bar. You know, you got to catch the
guy on the take. You got to catch him part of a big conspiracy that was really part of a big crime.
Well, what about what happened on January 6th? Do you really believe Trump planned that?
crime. Well, what about what happened on January 6th? Do you really believe Trump planned that?
Now, is there any question that he is open to having violence and bad things that benefit him happen? No, but that's not necessarily going to be a crime, okay? And I do think that there's a
cost to it. And by the way, that's always part of prosecutorial discretion. It's not just simply,
well, they broke the law and I believe I can prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. They take other policies into consideration.
What it means for the community, what it means for the country, I think that matters.
I'm not saying give Trump a pass.
I'm just saying, what do you think the goal is going to be, and what do you think happens if you swing and miss at him again?
Hi, Chris. My name is Linda.
I'm calling from Pennsylvania.
I just want to let you know that
I watch your podcast and I watch you on News Nation. I know that you don't know me from Adam,
but I do have a request. I would like it very much if you didn't put yourself down so much.
I think that you've been through a lot. I watched you at CNN. I saw everything that happened.
You're the greatest. I think you're the greatest. I think you're the number one journalist. I think
you're a good man. But don't put yourself down because you don't deserve that because you're
pretty special. I know what it's like to be put down. Didn't know what love was until my two girls came along. So it's very, very hard sometimes to kind of
pick yourself up when people slap you down. But guess what? I look forward to you. You are
good for the people. You talk to the people. You don't lie to the people. And when you talk to the
people, you talk to them, not at them. So I really appreciate that.
You know what?
You don't have to listen to me, but I'm just telling you that I'll be watching and listening.
Keep up the good work. And thank you very much for being who you are.
I want to know what love is.
I want you to show me.
That was very nice.
It was very nice. It was very nice.
Not my singing.
What you said.
Look,
we all got our flaws.
And I appreciate you
trying to pick me up
and giving me that boost.
That's very kind.
But,
one,
those are very generous assessments.
Okay?
I do try.
All right?
But I fall short as often as many.
And look, you know, some people have said when I say this,
oh, that's an admission that he did bad things for his brother.
No, it's not.
That's bullshit, okay?
I didn't do what I was accused of for my brother.
And what I did do, I let you know.
And that's why I'm spending all this money in litigation.
Because it matters.
It's not about some huge, stupid payday.
It's about not being called a liar by people who know better.
Now, do I beat up on myself?
Yes, I have self-loathing tendencies.
Why?
Because I know me.
That's why.
And I want to be a better parent, a better husband, a lot in those areas.
I do not give my best to the people who deserve it most because I'm too busy giving it to you people. No, it's balance. It's balance. It's consistency. And I expect a lot
from myself and it bothers me more when I fall short. To whom much is given, much is expected.
And I have been very fortunate and blessed and I don't like not living up to it.
I don't like how I feel.
And I'm working on it.
I'm working on it.
And I appreciate you for what you say.
And I will tell you this.
I do work hard.
And I don't see that as enough.
I see it as a must.
But I work hard.
I think about everything I say.
Even when it seems random, that is because I'm making it seem a must. But I work hard. I think about everything I say, even when it seems random,
that is because I'm making it seem that way. I think about everything. I think about this
stuff incessantly. I read and think and read different viewpoints on things and see how
people are reacting to things all the time. It doesn't always come across, but the effort is
there. I promise you that. And it's because you deserve it. And I have trouble with that word where it intersects with my own life.
But, you know, I have to say, I don't regret sharing more of my own struggles, you know, quotidian, you know, weight and kids, all the typical junk that we deal with every day
or some of the more you you know special ones that have come into my life i don't think i
overstate them i hope i don't because i don't see it that way i certainly don't believe i've
ever been a victim of anything in my life other than myself so it's my brother ironic so my point is this uh i don't turn off my phone why i have a deal with
my kids if they need me i'm there if i'm on tv i'd look i'd say and i'd explain it to you and i
think you'd get it i think you'd get it here i think they'd get it on tv there's such silly
conventions you know you talk about why i do what I do and how I do it.
You know, you work on something all day, it connects.
It connects.
People understand where you're coming from.
It sparks their critical thinking.
The note I get, no tie.
It's like, come on, man.
You know, like, what do we value and why do we value it?
What is this, getting on a TWA flight in 1958?
You know, I just, I believe so deeply in being real.
And I don't want to give too much of myself away because it's not fair to my family, my loved ones, my friends.
You know, it's not their stories.
It's not my right to talk about those dynamics.
You know, I got to be careful.
That's why I keep it to me.
And I don't regret it because I believe it's helpful to you.
And if it's helpful to you, that means everything to me.
But at the same time, there's a reason nobody does what I do.
And I don't know if like that's coming across to people.
I certainly don't expect the media to do that in any positive way.
And I'm not going to help them do it.
I don't want to participate in any pieces about me i don't trust where they're coming from but
i you know i i get why people don't do it this is like suicidal on a pr level of like talking to
people about struggling and all these things and sometimes even when i see it coming you know i
don't know if you'll remember but when i talked about why i stopped drinking i said look i, look, I don't have a drinking problem. Okay. I don't mean to diminish people's
addictions and struggles and battles by putting myself in that category. It's not true, but I was
getting into a habit of drinking too much when I had problems. So I wanted to stop and I wanted
to come into this anticipating that if there's drama, I want to be at my best to deal with it.
What happens?
The post says I have a drinking problem.
And I told you that they were going to say that.
I told you that any bottom feeder was going to say that.
But I still had to deal with it.
And it's still one more question I had to get from my kids.
And I hate putting them in that position.
So it's not so simple as to say, don't beat up on yourself.
I deserve it. And I also deserve kindness. And I also deserve self-kindness and a lot of other
things. It's complicated. It's more than just one thing. You're right. And more than being right,
you're kind. And I appreciate that. I appreciate your kindness. It's rare and it's appreciated.
I appreciate your kindness.
It's rare, and it's appreciated.
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So if ED is getting you down, it's time to pick it up.
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Chris, your angle on the oil prices being a global market is perfect.
But here's a new twist.
OK, we don't set the global price.
It's a capitalist
market. So even if we're
producing a hundred times
what the U.S. can use,
if the price is better
somewhere else, the company's
going to sell it somewhere else. The government
doesn't own these corporations. We're a
capitalist country. So
it just doesn't make sense that the...
You got pissed off at yourself, Colton, huh? Now, you happen to be right. What's the point
that Colton was making? It's that it's not just about the government. These are private companies.
Yup. And they got crushed during the pandemic because demand was so down and their shareholders
said, stop using the money for exploration and refining and pay us dividends. And that's what's happening. And they're taking advantage of the
increase in demand, and they're charging the prices that they can. That's what they're doing.
And yes, of course, well, you know, this idea of being a net exporter versus a net importer,
it's so complicated. There's so many different types of products and refining
between natural gas and liquid and liquid natural gas and propane and what we do with petroleum and
what grade of it and how refined is it? There's so much going on. It's such a diverse and broad
market that it's really easy to cherry pick numbers. but here are the basics, okay? It is a world market, meaning the idea that what America does will directly influence its own price
structure here greatly is just an exaggeration to the point, I believe, of being a lie because I
believe it's deceptive on purpose and it's misinformation. Can you make certain changes
on the price domestically even if there's a world market set? Yes, but it's not that profound. That's
what I'm trying to say.
The idea that if Biden just dot, dot, dot, gas would be two bucks again, it's just BS.
And yes, we have to stop giving a pass to corporations in our analyses of problems.
Did you ever notice how that always happens?
Yes, the left and especially the, you know, the fringy, you know, like Bernie,
you know, and that type of progressive, you know, corporate greed, corporate greed,
corporate greed. Okay. What are we going to do about it? Taxes, they're going to get around it.
And if you don't watch what you do, then they sweat labor. And, you know, we don't want them
to do that. We want people to have jobs, but they always get a pass. You notice that? You even see
it in other contexts. For example, college costs. Who should get the loan forgiveness? How much? And
who's going to pay for it? All this. How come we don't talk about how much it costs? How come
nobody goes after the universities for how much they're charging for things? How come that's not
part of the equation? You see what I'm saying? So I think there should be a concentration on
that. You should look at who's making the money and who's not making the money. And I'm not saying
you go socialist, but look, the idea that we're a purely capitalistic society is BS. And I'm not
just talking about our government structure. What do you call bankruptcy? We have more forgiving
corporate bankruptcy laws than any other developed nation. That's not welfare. That's capitalism.
You see what I'm saying? We make accommodations on the basis of what we value. This should be
no different. Hi, Chris. This is Linda. I'm calling to thank you for following up on the
YouTube comments and also to let you know how that got resolved when I was catfished by Catrafit Chris.
And it was quite a journey trying to figure out, was it you? Wasn't it you? And early on,
I did figure out it was not you. It finally ended with a middle of the night email where
he had to confess finally. I was about done at that point, but he confessed. He said he
was sorry. He said he couldn't be you anymore. And he also thanked me for not making it harder on him
than it already was. So that was the end of that. But I do want to talk to you about a couple of
things. One was a comment regarding the walking program that you want to do. And I've
done walking programs before, and I have some thoughts about it, or at least one. And thanks
for all you do. Now, that is some saga there with the Fugazi Chris. I don't know why anybody would
want to pretend to be me. I'll tell you this. If somebody comes at you on social media, at least
Instagram, and there's no blue check next to it, it's not me. And I probably am
not coming at you to begin with. And I'm doing less and less social media anyway. I mean, we do
it as part of the work here, but personally it has less and less appeal for me. On Twitter,
anybody can have a blue check now, so that's not as simple, but I'm really sorry for that. I wish
I had control over it, but I don't. I'm glad you were able to rectify it in your own way. You know, I'm getting messages about that. Somebody found my personal TikTok
account at greg.ot and they messaged me to say, Hey, am I talking to the real Chris?
And I asked, I texted you and I said, can you verify this? And you didn't write me back.
I didn't think it was really you.
Was that just a shameless self-promotion from the TikTok account?
No, I would never promote my personal TikTok account at greg.od on this program.
This is your program.
There's no place for me to promote at greg.od on TikTok.
You see what I'm dealing with, right?
The TikTok app.
But I got to tell you something, though.
Your boy stepped up today.
We have a little ritual here, a micro habit, if you will, where I bring Greg lunch every time he decides to show up to work. Today, not only did
he show up with his own Sammy, but he got me one and it was no corner deli, you know, wheel and
deal. It was like an artisanal focaccia bread, different types of Italian
meats that he can't pronounce just for your boy. Isn't that nice? Well, you haven't eaten it yet.
It's been sitting on the counter for two hours. Even better.
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