The Chris Cuomo Project - The Iran War Is a Trap

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Chris Cuomo breaks down the Iran conflict as a political moment rather than just a foreign policy story, arguing that the current cease-fire and ongoing tensions reflect instability — not resolution.... He examines why Iran retains leverage despite recent developments, how the situation has evolved into a strategic stalemate, and why traditional arguments about the war are unlikely to move voters. Cuomo also critiques how both parties are responding, suggesting that the focus on the conflict itself is misplaced. Instead, he outlines what he sees as the real opportunity: a shift back to domestic priorities like affordability, economic pressure, and rebuilding trust with voters who feel left behind. The question, he argues, is whether political leaders will recognize that opening — or continue to fight the wrong battle. The Iran conflict isn’t just about foreign policy — it’s becoming a distraction from the issues voters actually care about at home, and a political opportunity that both parties may be missing. Join The Chris Cuomo Project on YouTube for ad-free episodes, early releases, exclusive access to Chris, and more: https://www.youtube.com/@chriscuomo/join Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Upgrade your wallet today! Get 10% Off @Ridge with code CUOMO at https://www.Ridge.com/CUOMO #ridgepod Protect your family with life insurance from Ethos. Get up to $3 million in coverage in as little as 10 minutes at https://ethos.com/cuomo. Application times may vary. Rates may vary. #news #cuomo #trump #iran Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:25 You're missing two things. One, you're missing the high ground of fighting. terror, fighting this, fighting that. There's no reason to cede that ground to Trump, that he's right about the regime, and you're wrong about the regime. You're not wrong about the regime. You're wrong about what he did to combat the regime.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Because right now, the regime is in control. The regime is in control of the strait, and they're in the control of this negotiation. I mean, as I'm speaking to you right now, as I'm recording this, they just came out with a list of, yeah, we're not going to do this, we're not going to do that, we're not going to do this. It's not really bilateral, and we don't like what Israel did, and we don't like that this is in and there.
Starting point is 00:03:07 I mean, do they sound like someone who's on their back foot who are desperate to make a deal? Why? These people are religious zealots, but they're not stupid. Now, you could argue what they believe is stupid, but they're very savvy, and they're very good at the same thing that the American president is good at. lying, defying norms, and denying realities. Okay? Look, let's be honest. Right now, we're in a position where you don't know who's more trustworthy on what's happening here. A bunch of zealots or the American president.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I mean, let's be honest. I'm not saying that the American president is a terrorist. I'm not saying that they're better than him. I mean, that is what you have going for you, is the idea that if you question what's happening in Iran, you are anti-American, you hate the troops, you want America to lose, really? That is so weak, so pathetic, that there's opportunity in this. But the opportunity is not to just say this all sucks and Trump sucks and what he did here sucks. Because that's obvious. For the people who want to see it, it's already obvious.
Starting point is 00:04:24 The opportunity is in using his war of choice to make a different choice for yourselves and a proposition for the American voter, which is to say this is what he cares about. What we care about is reconnecting with you. Our platform is not that Trump sucks. It's that we can fix what's wrong with America for you. He's focused on this. we're focused on this and this is affordability. The regime, see, I would have all of these rifts that play off what's happening in Iran,
Starting point is 00:05:04 but move them into the domestic domain, meaning what? You want to fight the regime that threatens us most? Okay, then you're not going to be over there. You're going to be right here at home fighting the health care people. and the price pirates in our top-heavy economy. That's what you fight. You want to stop the spread of terror. Well, what are most people afraid of in America right now?
Starting point is 00:05:37 Thank God and who knows for how long, we don't have a jihadi problem, an extreme Islamism problem in America. We have an affordability crisis. We have a death of the American dream going on because the expectations just don't make sense anymore. That's the opportunity. The midterms are not going to be a relitigation of the Iran war.
Starting point is 00:06:00 They're going to be a litigation based on what was compromised because of the Iran war. And that's if Trump is lucky. If Trump is lucky, that's all it is. But we don't know what's going to happen. You know, this is not really a ceasefire. we don't know that this is going to lead to anything better. My guess is that the regime played this as a timeout, as a break.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Use this time, figure out its next moves, but not to make some deal. It's clear that Trump is going to let them survive. He's saying other things because he's hearing people like me say that he's allowing them to survive. But there is an opportunity here that is being missed in what I'm hearing. from the Democrats, and they got to get this right, and they got to get it right soon, because this is the key for the midterms. I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo podcast.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Now, what we're dealing with here is that the midterms are going to be about what's happening in America. This Iran War has been a distraction from what's happening in America. MAGA is done. Maga is done. There is no more. a Trump-led populist movement for domestic reforms going on. It's not what this administration's about.
Starting point is 00:07:30 MAGA is done. Now, the people who voted that way, not the bigots, not the racists, not the xenophobes, people with legitimate despair, disaffection, desperation for better to disrupt the norms, to disrupt the system, to clean it up, that's still real. In fact, it's more real than ever.
Starting point is 00:07:52 That's why the no-Kings protests are humongous. That's not just anti-Trump. It's anti-a-lot-of-things. The need is real. The desperation is real. And MAGA is done. That's clearly not what this administration is about. So there's opportunity in that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Who is about that? Look, that was the traditional Democrat space. Let's be honest. Traditionally, before Trump, Republicans fought for the rich, exclusively and outwardly with their trickle down. and the Democrats were for everybody else. Now the Democrats, ostensibly, in terms of the optics of social media politics, are a bunch of rich lefties, educated snobs who are about really freaky cultural plays
Starting point is 00:08:36 and who don't get the reality that the rest of the people are living and who hate their country. Now, do I agree with that? No, but perception is reality in politics. And you let yourself be painted that way. You handed a second term to Trump. Be honest. Sometimes it's a little, you know, it's a little hack me, this idea that you didn't win, I lost, whatever. It's a zero-sum situation. So whether you did it to yourself or I did it to you, we wind up in the same place, it doesn't matter. What does matter is that you recognize that dynamic and do something about it if you want a different outcome.
Starting point is 00:09:11 And what that means here is that you don't hand it to them. You get back to your roots as Democrats. reconnecting to the people who need you most who don't have a voice. You don't cater to the oligarchs. You don't cater to the top. You cater to everybody else. The reality in America is that the majority, the many, are being held hostage by the few.
Starting point is 00:09:37 It's true in our media. Social media dominates, but it's not reality. It's all fringe. Our politics caters to the loud people on each side. Our policies catered to the top, not to the many. And that's what has changed. Now, some of it you can't do anything about.
Starting point is 00:09:56 If the algorithms are rewarding the kind of rage bait and stuff, the enragement instead of engagement, then that's what it's going to be. And anybody who wants to get paid and be a celebrity and be known is going to play that game and some are going to play it better than others
Starting point is 00:10:09 and that's what you're going to get. But our politics has to be bigger than our popularity contest online. You're right? Our politics is bigger than our podcasts. What it has to be about is who connects to the many.
Starting point is 00:10:24 And what the many need is an advocate and a disruption of the norms that are creating the cost of living crisis. You know, when you look at who Trump has lost, he's lost independence
Starting point is 00:10:39 and he's lost white non-college educated workers. Now, you may have heard me say before, I hate that demographic description, non-college-educated. Why? Because it is a none-too-suttle code that you're stupid. And what do we know?
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Starting point is 00:11:33 And what is instructive is that people who have to work, who have to take whatever job pays them the most, who have to have multiple jobs, they have been the most. they have been the most upset. And they are the ones, many of them left unions, left the Democratic Party and moved to MAGA. They are now up for grabs. Absolutely up for grabs. Why?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Because this administration is not for them. And even to the extent that it talks to talk, it doesn't walk the walk. And they know it. People are not stupid. I don't care if you went to college. You probably know more about life if you're 24 years old,
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Starting point is 00:14:33 It's not what she said. This quote that's going around, she said to me in an interview with me at ABC News, I know exactly what she said. And what she said was, if the regime ever used a nuclear weapon, we would obliterate them. That's what she said. That is very different than what you're trying to suggest. Someone's trying to suggest that she's doing the same thing that Trump is doing. The Democrats always felt the same way. Even if everybody has always felt the same way, which is that the regime can never have a new,
Starting point is 00:15:12 Why do you think Republicans and Democrats past haven't done what Trump just did? Because they knew how dicey it would be if you didn't want to go in and occupy in control. And now he is living that lesson. The regime is still in place. They now have some kind of legitimacy in the international political dialogue that they do not deserve and have never had before. Trump went alone with just Israel, then of course Israel wants to bomb Iran. They are an existential threat that is proximate to them. Missiles take 10, 15 minutes to get to them from Iran.
Starting point is 00:15:53 We don't have that situation. Of course they're still hitting Lebanon. Of course they went all in after the ceasefire. So did Iran. Iran was bombing this shit out of Israel after the ceasefire. Why? Because they hate each other, and that's what you do, is get in last licks. That's what you're dealing with from the Israeli perspective.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And look, I don't believe that the reason we went to war with Iran is because Bibi Netanyahu came over and duped Trump. No. Why? Is Trump susceptible to suggestion? Of course. But Trump is a master at his own self-interest. And he would never do something for Bibi for any reason other than it was good for him.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And there's no question that it wasn't just BB. I'm sure some people said, I don't like his cell. This is all he ever says is bomb Iran. The guy's a warrior, and he just wants to bomb and kill people. That's what he's good at. That's what he likes. That's why he still exists. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:54 I'm sure people said that to Trump, but people also said to Trump, you can do this, and it's just going to be like another Venezuela, really. I mean, you're going to go in there. You're going to beat the snot out of them. They don't even have an Air Force, really. And we're going to decimate their Navy. We're going to decimate this. We're going to take it out.
Starting point is 00:17:08 that and you're going to have done something that nobody else had the stones to do and it's going to be a big win and everybody's going to know you fought the bad guy America's strong and it's a great distraction from Epstein and all this drama we're dealing with at home that's what I think happened here now the opportunity in that is not to just stay on the issue that boy was this a mistake boy was this a mistake people are exhausted of the mistakes people are exhausted of what's wrong and being bathed in which side is worse. The Democrats need to break out of it. Otherwise, the Republicans will.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Once the midterms come and go, they take a beating, they'll grab this mantle, they'll splinter, they'll go bad on Trump, and start preparing for next. It's not going to happen until after the midterms. Why? Because he can primary you and beat you.
Starting point is 00:18:03 He's very powerful within that party because that party is weak. So is the Democratic Party, but the Democratic Party has an opportunity right now the Republican Party does not. You don't get to reconnect with the people you're fucking over when you're in power.
Starting point is 00:18:16 The Democrats do get that opportunity. That's the way it works in this stupid binary system. When you're on the outs, you're seen as the aggrieved and the outrage that the system and the government is bad. And then you can be in there two years later and all of a sudden it's a totally different narrative. Welcome to our politics. I hate it.
Starting point is 00:18:30 That's why I want the party system to be changed. That's why I'm anti-party. Not just non-partisan, I'm anti-partisan. But the opportunity for the Democrats, in this war is to not stay stuck on litigating the war. Take the opportunity to say he's about this. We're about affordability. He wants to fight terrorists in the regime
Starting point is 00:18:54 and who he perceives as this and this. I want to fight the people who are raising the prices on you. I want to go after the regimes that are making lending the way it is. And prices, drug prices, health care prices, health care prices, food prices, I want to go after this structure that made paying people for productivity
Starting point is 00:19:19 unimportant and paying investors for productivity the main concern. Now, what are you saying? You want to be socialist? No. Were we socialists in 1950s, 1960s, into the 1970s?
Starting point is 00:19:36 Were we socialists then? I don't think so. What were we? We were people who had an understanding that when a company does well, you take care of your workers first, not your shareholders. It was a time,
Starting point is 00:19:53 why do you think the C-Sweets, as they call them C-E-A-O, CFO, CMO, all those guys, why do you think their pay ballooned? Because of the shift of rewarding workers and, of course, management, but workers for productivity
Starting point is 00:20:09 to making it all investor-driven. That's when the stock market went crazy in the 80s. That became the game. That became what mattered. Stock price. When people started trading many multiples above their book value.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And the shift was that killed the middle class was we're not going to pay you when we're successful anymore. We're only going to pay you what we absolutely have to. And we're going to pay our investors. We're going to pay. We shifted from trying to take care of Main Street to trying to take care of Wall Street.
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Starting point is 00:23:16 So it's not one side, but I would say that Democrats traditionally have gone after workers and they got away from that. And it's time to get back to it. And Trump just gave you a brilliant opportunity by getting elected to do one thing and choosing to do another consistently, repeatedly. Why? He has no answers. He can't bomb his way into lower cost of living in America. He's doing what's easy for him because he doesn't have ideas. He doesn't know policy.
Starting point is 00:23:47 He's not an economist. He's not a great businessman. That's bullshit. You can't find a business other than his name brand that he's ever made money on in any real way. You got to stop just living the lies. well, you know, he is a business guy. You know, he is an economy guy. No, that's who?
Starting point is 00:24:05 What are you talking about? He has spent more money than anybody else in modern history except Biden, who gets blamed for spending money that he had to spend because of the pandemic that Trump allowed to go out of control. I mean, it's not even a close call. It's not even a close call. But if you just get stuck in the fighting the regime is bad,
Starting point is 00:24:29 that is too good a fight for Trump, even though he is greatly mishandled it, but you've got to believe at the end of this. Trump's going to be able to say the regime is less powerful than it was. The one in Wildcard there is this trade of Hormuz, but the rest of the world can't afford to let them keep it the way they want to. That's why Trump is saying now, oh, yeah, I think I'm going to run it with the regime.
Starting point is 00:24:49 First of all, how embarrassing. You have to share power with a bunch of terrorists? Well, it is in their backyard. No, it isn't. It's in the Iranian people's backyard. This regime is an insertion. It's not organic to Iran. They're not even Persians. This mollocracy, the mullahs that are in control. You're going to share with them? I mean, it's embarrassing. But instead of just saying that and leaving it there, I'm still not really ready to vote for you, to be honest. Why? All right, he screwed this up, but the regime sucks. They needed, you know, they were going to get nukes. They were making a lot of weapons. Everybody says it. Yeah, everybody says it just may not be true. But,
Starting point is 00:25:33 that's where we are. That's not a big percentage opportunity. The big percentage opportunity is everything's gotten worse at home under his watch, in part because of his own actions and inactions. And we can fix them
Starting point is 00:25:47 because we're going to focus on them. And we're going to prioritize them. We're going to prioritize you. I'm not taking care of the top. They're fine. I'm going to take care of a system that allows them to get away with not paying taxes
Starting point is 00:26:00 in the way that you can't. We're going to do what. with that, they're going to pay. I promise you that. You come up with, you know, extreme ideas. Like what? Like I'm revamping the IRS to only audit people who make over $5 million a year. Or where, you know, pick a number. A lot of money. We're going to look at all of them and see where they're paying and where they're not. And we're going to have a independent committee give us a three-month assessment of what has to change in the tax code to get rid of the loopholes. Sounds good, right? Yeah, I agree, me too.
Starting point is 00:26:37 This is what needs to be said. This is the opportunity. This is what the Iran war has made available to you. The war over there has created an opportunity over here. You just got to be willing to take it. Which is not as easy as it sounds because it's so tempting I want to beat him up about the war. I get it.
Starting point is 00:26:56 You feel he deserves it. He screwed this up, 300 injured. Who knows what's happened on the ground in Tehran? spiraling out of control with Israel? All of these arguments can be made. The regime at a better position than we've ever seen it, they actually have leverage that we've never seen them have before. They were always just the boogeyman
Starting point is 00:27:15 and someone that could actively oppress their own people. Now, they're calling the shots in one of the main economic arteries on the planet. And you just gave them that after telling us that you knew they might do that and you just let it happen anyway. Malpractice. And you want us to celebrate the man. military? Why? We don't like what's happening there. The military is not the problem. Your use of them or
Starting point is 00:27:40 abuse of them, in my opinion is. But I don't want to stay stuck on that. It's not enough of an opportunity with the American people. It's not. The no-brainer fight is who's going to do for me at home? Who's going to give me confidence that I can have my kids set up in a way that I can be proud of? Who? Where are the AI economy jobs going to come from? Who's helping me with that? How are we going to deal with getting more people into the trades and making that cool again? Why do we need that?
Starting point is 00:28:21 AI is going to do it? No, they're not. AI is never going to fix your toilet. AI is not going to come to your house and fix your HVAC system. AI's not going to build your house, not in my lifetime. AI's not going to figure out where that one light keeps flashing and come here and fix it. These are the trades.
Starting point is 00:28:44 This is the artisan class. We took the art out of that. We made them seem like they were less than. You know, thick-fingered. My father used to say the thick-fingered laborers, not his hands aren't accommodated for the keyboard. Well, I get it, but there's nothing. wrong with being a thick-fingered laborer
Starting point is 00:29:03 because you can run your own business and do really well. And now you'll be kind of AI proof. Not everybody's got to be a data analyst. That's what's going to get eaten up by AI. The opportunity that the war presents is for Democrats to pivot at home and
Starting point is 00:29:22 take the mantle that MAGA was, because MAGA is done. And you have to fill that void before Trump and his minions can recombinate and create some new bullshit culture war to fool people into thinking he cares about regular folk, this is the opportunity. This is what the war represents. This is what you do. How? How? How do we do it? Well, one, I think
Starting point is 00:29:49 Democrats need different leadership. Hakeem Jeffries doesn't know how to negotiate with the far side of his party. He doesn't know how to control which part goes first, which foot moves first. Now, I think he's very competent. I think he's got a lot of political promise. But his leadership isn't what they needed to be right now. I do like him saying, come back, let's go to work, let's go to work. That's important. It's good that he says that. Schumer, no way. He represents everything that's wrong with politics and with the Democratic Party. He's got to go. You need new blood. Now, you know what the Democrats tell me? No, the other people in the Senate are worse. The other people who will lead in the Senate, who will want it, who will get it, are worse than Schumer.
Starting point is 00:30:38 It's hard to believe. I mean, he's left you guys so hapless. I mean, does anybody care what he says? When's the last time that Chuck Schumer was rallied behind because of what he was saying, what he was doing? Now, interestingly, you know how he came to prominence, right? This is a big message for Democrats. You know who Chuck Schumer is because he used to be called Senator Pothole,
Starting point is 00:31:00 Representative Potthole when he was in Congress. Why? Because he just made deals to get stuff fixed for his constituency. He was a deal maker. Let's get it done. Let me bring a deliverable back home. That's who he was. That's who you need now, but that's not who he is anymore. Now he's just about raising money.
Starting point is 00:31:19 That's what he does. He just raises money. He just calls people up, says, I need money, I need money, I need money. And he'll do things for you if you're going to give him money. I mean, he's not alone in that. That's how it works, right? But especially Citizens United, now made legal money, the most dangerous money. But he doesn't have this message.
Starting point is 00:31:36 He can't connect to those people. He can't inspire. He can't get it done in the Senate. And there is a chance that if they came into power, he would want to get rid of the filibuster, and I think that's unacceptable. You need something approaching consensus. Compromise in that body.
Starting point is 00:31:52 You need a saucer under the hot cup of tea. You need it. And he's not that. He can't be that, and he won't be that. So Democrats see the opportunity. See the opportunity before you. not to just pound Trump into the ground over how screwed up the Iran war is, that speaks for itself. Ipsidixit, as they say in Latin.
Starting point is 00:32:14 The opportunity is to own the domestic agenda, to own the interest, the focus, the ideas, exploit what is going wrong on his watch, which he has laid out for you beautifully, and own it and take it on and be obsessed with that the way you are obsessed with saying, Trump sucks right now. And instead of rewarding a Gavin Newsom for writing mean tweets, reward whoever rises from your ranks who says, why don't we do this with health care? Well, you know that they're doing this in this state and this is working. Why do we do this?
Starting point is 00:32:49 Let them show pictures of Somalians in the mall and say, where are we, North Africa? You let them obsess on what's scary and wrong in America. And you be obsessed with what's right and how to do better because that's what the American. people want. That's where the American people are. The American people are not about right and left. The fastest growing part of the American electorate is what? Nonpartisans. Now, I know a lot of independents aren't real ones. They're not free agents. You know, they're not different ideologically.
Starting point is 00:33:20 They're just pissed off. They're sick of the Democratic Party. Now they're sick of the Republican Party. And they're leaving. That's still good. There's still opportunity in that. Play to the disgust. Play to the outrage. It is real. It is genuine. You have to be genuine and real also in offering things for it and connecting to it. That's the opportunity. Now, will you do it or will you go with that low fruit? Trump sucks, Trump sucks, Trump sucks. We're going to impeach him, 25th Amendment.
Starting point is 00:33:48 25th Amendment doesn't get you where you want to be. It'll never happen. You'll never get half the cabinet. And even if you did, and Trump didn't fight it, which he would, of course, you need a two-thirds vote of the Congress. You'll never get that. impeachment, a little bit of a lower bar in terms of getting an impeachment, you're not going to get them removed. Why waste the time? Oh, it shows that we're fighting back. No, it doesn't. No, it doesn't. Owning the domestic
Starting point is 00:34:12 gender and owning the affordability problems and helping small businesses and dealing with getting tariffs repaid, that's what connects. Am I right or am I wrong? Why do you see it differently? Thank you for watching. Thank you for subscribing and following. This podcast, all of my work is for free agents, and I'm looking at you, Gen X, because you are the guys, the men and women who really need to take the reins and start taking your agency as citizens and as leaders and businesses and the public sector seriously. It is our time, 45 to 60. We got the money, we got the experience, we got the positioning. What are we going to do with it? That's the question. We're not a big group, but we're mighty. We're the last ones to know the old world from the new.
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Starting point is 00:35:51 The question is, do you want to get obsessed with what's better or do you want to stay obsessed with why he's worse? Let's get after.

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