The Chris Cuomo Project - The Meat of the Matter: Exploring One Influencer’s Journey with the Controversial Carnivore Diet

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Chris Cuomo speaks with influencer Jessalyn Randle (instagram.com/jessalyn.randle) about her decision to follow a carnivore diet primarily focused on eating meat and animal products, believing her dietary choice has significantly improved her overall health and well being after suffering health conditions like chronic constipation, bad acne, and depression. Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Bloated, not able to lose weight, ping-ponging from one diet to another, all kinds of ickiness. I know someone who says they have an answer and it is kind of shocking, but you're gonna hear it for yourself. I'm Chris Cuomo, welcome to the Chris Cuomo podcast. Thank you for subscribing and following

and checking me out on News Nation at 8p and 11p every weekday night. So diet, what we put in our body is so important, there may be nothing as important in terms of what is going to be determinative of our health even more and more now. Disease, it seems the best medicine may be the food we're putting in ourselves,

not just because of prevention, but as cure. That takes us to Gesselin Randall, okay? Young woman, athletic, trying to stay in shape, bloated. Problems with her gut, keeping weight on, energy, skin, mood. She keeps trying different things. Here's about something that is a little controversial because it seems to fly in the face of everything we've been told about balance when it comes to diet, right?

What does the pyramid look like? All the veggies, grains, meat to dairy, meat, very little, very little, right? What if you flip it upside down? Well, then you have a point on the bottom. Okay, very little. Right? What if you flip it upside down? Well, then you have a point on the bottom. Okay, different metaphor. How about you flip the ratios, carnivore diet? Jaisalem was like, okay, might as well try it.

Nothing else has worked. What happens when you change your diet from a minimum of meat to a maximum of meat and dairy and a minimum of everything else. Hear it for yourself. Jessalyn, thank you so much for taking this opportunity. Thank you so much for having me. Give me the top three things for taking this opportunity. Thank you so much for having me. Give me the top three things that people say

when they see your content. The top three things, don't you need fiber to poop? We went there immediately, sorry. No, there's no shame in my poop game. Aren't you worried about cholesterol? And how did you hear about it? Or what made you decide to start eating carnivore?

Now, we're going to talk food and your own journey and why you're making the choices you are, what you believe people get wrong. But just from a kind of social dynamic perspective, what's the ratio of curious to I'd like to kill you because of the choices that you have made with what to put in your body? I think curious heavily outweighs the militant,

like aggressive, angry side of social media. So that's good, at least in my experience. All right, so for those who are not following you yet, but I'm sure they will, this has been a journey for you. And you were going through what a lot of us are. I mean, even though you're young and certainly in your prime, you were trying to figure out what works, okay? And what was the change agent for you?

What made you decide to rethink the, let's go nuts with the salad, let's have vegetables as much as we can, especially when you feel like binging. Let's go lean protein, let's keep it lean, and let's beware of the fats, especially those animal fats. I'll spot you an avocado every now and then, okay? I'm not draconian, but let's be careful

on those animal fats and if you're gonna have eggs, woo-hoo! You know, stick to the whites and not too often. That's what we're told, okay? What made you start to think maybe not? Cause you were doing that and what was happening? And let's not forget about the oatmeal. I ate oatmeal religiously every morning. But so the thing that really changed my mind

was actually my husband, who was encouraging me to seek answers. For most of my life, I was chronically constipated. So for 20 years of my life about, I never had a normal bowel movement. I was just always constipated. So for 20 years of my life about, I never had a normal bowel movement. I was just always constipated. And it was absolutely horrible. I would not wish that on anyone.

And then because of that, I had really bad acne for most of my life. And then because of that, I had really bad depression and anxiety and mental health issues because I was so incredibly insecure and I hated everything about myself. So it was just all of those factors combined.

And then I was sick all of the time also because I had a horrible gut. And I was trying all of these things and nothing was working. I was just either getting more sick or just would stay the same. What were you trying? What wasn't working?

I would do crash diets. So I would just, one time I remember in high school, I heard that an apple fast made your acne go away. So for about three or five days, I forget how long, I ate nothing but apples, hoping that my skin would clear up. It didn't work. I would do things like you were saying

and basically spot on what you were saying. I would eat tons of fruits and vegetables, tons of salad, tons of oatmeal. I would only do lean meat. I remember one time I was doing just fish and asparagus for a very long time and I got very, very skinny but that wasn't sustainable. So I basically would just try different things, crash diets and yo-yo, get skinny, gain the weight back,

get skinny, gain the weight back and my mental health just never was really good in that whole entire period. And then finally I heard about carnivore and it sounded, they said it could help your gut, your mental health, your skin, and I was like, those are three things that I'm dealing with. Might as well give it a try because nothing else has worked. So I did and it worked really well for me. You had certain health issues, you'd gone to the doctor,

you didn't have systemic disease or something that needed medication or a procedure or something like that. It was more about your nature of homeostasis, let's call it, in terms of like your bio rhythm. Yes, no, I didn't have any sort of, I was never diagnosed with anything. But also, when I was growing up, it was still kind of weird to talk about poop and bowel movements and stuff. So I don't even think that my parents knew how bad I was struggling with my gut health

and doctors never asked me about that. When I would go to the doctors, if I was sick, they would just give me a Z-Pack and send me on my way. And I would just, I was on tons of antibiotics as a kid because I was constantly sick, but no doctor ever asked about what I was eating. No doctor ever asked about my I was eating, no doctor ever asked about my bowel movements or anything like that.

I was just always prescribed pills or told to eat more fiber if I was having issues like that, and that never helped me either. Athletic? I, yeah, I played volleyball and softball. Okay, so you work out, it's always been part of your, your culture. All right, so your husband says, nothing's working.

Try something else. You hear about carnivore. What made you think that it could do what you were told it might do? When you looked into it, why would eating a lot of meat? Because we're told red meat, okay, but you know, you can make the argument that we're not straight up carnivores,

that we're omnivores, that's why our teeth are the way they are and they're cavemen and all this. And people dying with all the undigested red meat in their bowels, all the funky numbers we're told. So what was the first level that helped you get past what we've been told? I felt absolutely desperate. I just needed something to change.

I hated myself so much, I had tried so many different ways to lose weight and it never, I could never keep it off no matter what I did and I would cry myself to sleep at night on a regular basis because I hated what I knew something was wrong and I didn't know what to do. And when I heard about it, it made sense.

And I just thought, what do I have to lose? Like I felt like it couldn't get any worse than it was. And I know that's not, that's completely logical because I don't want to compare my health issues to someone else, but in my mind, I felt so completely desperate that I thought I might as well give this a try. I, at one point was just eating nothing but apples. I can, I can eat nothing but meat, you know. And so, carnivore as you decided to try it, meant what? So carnivore is any meat, land or sea, and animal products like eggs and dairy.

So we went to the store, got a bunch of ribeye and a bunch of pork. And that is basically what I ate for the first month that I tried it. And I started in January 2020, so about four years ago. And I ate a ton of ribeye and a ton of pork and it was a struggle. I was not used to eating fatty meat. So I had to get used to eating the fatty meat, but after 30 days, I lost 20 pounds.

My skin started to clear up. My bowel movements became like way better than they had ever been. And my mental health was better than it had been since I was like a carefree child. So I knew I was onto something. So meat, eggs and cheese and milk. Yes, that is included. I don't eat a lot of cheese just because I'm not, I will eat cheese,

but I'm not someone who is like, oh my gosh, give me the cheese. You don't love it. It's not a restriction. It's about appetite. Okay, and no vegetables, no fruit. That is not included on the carnivore diet. Every now and then I will eat like blueberries

or something like that if I just like really am getting a craving for that. So I, I, it's not that I'm scared to eat those things or I refuse to eat those things, but just 99% of the time I just want to eat meat and animal products and it makes me feel my best. I absolutely love it. Listen, if you know anything about me,

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you weren't gonna be like nutrient mineral or vitamin deficient? And when did you have like bloods done or something to make sure that you weren't going down the crazy caveman road for the wrong reasons. Interestingly enough, of meat and animal products have every essential thing that your body needs. So you don't technically have to eat those things if

you don't want to. If people want to, I think that's absolutely great. A lot of people just do not feel 100% on carnivore and just need some carbs to just give them that extra energy. So I think that's absolutely fine. I'm not a person that says like, plants are trying to kill you type of thing. But I did some research. I read some books and found out that meat and animal products contain every central thing that you need. And I just have never... I'm not attached to food in a way that it was difficult for me to give up those things. So I just gave it my best shot

and I did it exactly the way you're supposed to do it. And it worked out really, really well for me. When you had your bloods looked at, what did the bloods look like? I had to get my blood work done before I actually moved to Okinawa for a couple of years because my husband got stationed over there. And I had to get my

blood work done to be approved to go to Japan and my blood work looked perfect. My doctor didn't have anything to complain about. She was searching for something wrong with me, which was really interesting to me because I was, I think 29 or 30 at the time. I don't remember exactly how old, but she didn't believe that I was on zero medication. I had zero health issues. I was like zero complaints about anything. So she was actively trying to find something that she could like put on my chart.

Oh, this is wrong with her. And she couldn't find anything. So my blood work was fine. It was great. So I knew I had nothing to worry about. And that was about a year after I started carnivore. So your cholesterol hadn't changed from before you started this kind of diet till after?

I don't know before and after because before, I don't even remember the last time I went to the doctor before because I, growing up, and just having such a bad experience with doctors, I developed a deep mistrust of doctors and whenever I would go to the doctor, my experience was always they would write me a prescription and that was it. That was the beginning and the end of the conversation was just give me a pill. So I stopped going to the doctor and I started trying to figure things out on my own.

And what I was doing before wasn't working and then I stumbled upon carnivore. So since you've started carnivore, have you had your bloods done to give you some points of comparison? Not except for getting approved to go to Okinawa because it's a little bit, I could go pay for it but I can't just

go into my military doctor and say, hey, can I do this for fun just to see. But you got to do that at some point just so that you have a baseline and make sure that your cholesterol is okay, don't you? I'm not extremely worried about it. I did try to schedule a CAC score test and they wouldn't let me do it because I'm too young. So that was unfortunate because CAC scores from what I've learned are the best indicator of heart disease. Explain to people what that is and why you wanted it. I forget exactly what it stands for, but it basically measures the amount of plaque in your arteries. So that is why it's considered one of the best indications of whether or not

you have heart disease or a risk of heart disease because it actually shows the buildup. People will know it as the calcium score. I tried to regress one of those but I was too young and with cholesterol I know it can get very like depends on the type of cholesterol and you want to do certain tests to see. So I was shooting for one of those just to like, get it out of the way because I think that is, that would convince people, if I had a score of zero, that would convince them that,

even though if my cholesterol is high, I'm not at risk for a heart attack. So it's basically just a coronary calcium scan, a coronary artery calcium test. At some point, you should just, I mean, you look good the way you want to, you're performing well, you feel good, right? So those are all great things. But you do want to know, and that is like the big drama here, right? So that's where'm like supposedly the ghost of Christmas future. So my doctor is now and my father had a really weird freaky kind of heart disease.

And it wasn't like he was like a fat guy who smoked and you know and he was out of shade, you know, he wasn't that. It was like a weird protein deposit thing. He had a very rare disease. But he did have a history of high cholesterol. And my cholesterol keeps getting higher as they get older. So they've been telling me all these things. And there is this counter research, which is now kind of counterintuitive about what works and what doesn't work for people, and that maybe a cholesterol score is not enough. And so, you know, I've been trying to figure it out. And when I met with Saladino and I started trying to diet,

I thought it worked well. It's just so hard for me to do anything routinely, even as simple as that, because his thing is grass- now used and I want to segue this into a different thing that really matters to you that I think is equally as important as what we're talking about what you put in you versus Where you get what you put in you and that has become a real passion for you so for him it's about grass-fed first of all. Like, are you into grass fed, or do you make your selections on a different basis? I will eat grass fed,

but I don't eat exclusively grass fed. I do not have an issue with grain finished beef. I know that some people, if they have like histamine issues, I think they are more sensitive to animals who are fed corn and soy and things like that. So they have to eat meat that is fed a very specific diet. But thankfully my health issues aren't that severe. I am not that sensitive. So I do not have any problems eating food or meat

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but she cares about herself and she cares about what she's put in her body. And she also developed an interesting fascination at first, but now a kind of a point of purpose and passion with where you get your food. And why did you get into this? And what do you want us to know? Learning more about, I think carnivore is kind of a rabbit hole for people to go into different aspects, especially environmental impact of me because that is all that.

Farts from the cattle farts are the worst thing for the ozone layer. You say no. The more research you do into it, you some will upon the environmental impact and things like that. And I started really looking into that. There's a book called Sacred Cow that really breaks down that information and is really good in my opinion. And it kind of inspired me to just try to encourage people to just eat real food again and know where your food comes from. I feel like so many Americans are so disconnected from where their food comes from,

whether it's just going to the grocery store and buying food that comes in a box or buying meat at the grocery store. You have no connection to that meat whatsoever. And I do think that knowing where your food comes from and having a relationship with the person that grew your food or raised the animals is a really important part of the human experience

and can really impact your life in a positive way also. And just develop another level of respect that you have for that animal giving its life for you because I don't want to like don't get it twisted like you are taking a life so you're you can sustain yours and I think just having that relationship and knowing how that animal is treated and if they feed if they supplement with grain most treated and if they feed, if they supplement with grain, knowing why and knowing what kind of grain it is, is that non-GMO, things like that, those are all really important things to know

about the food that you are putting in your body. And I think that that can impact your health just as much as just changing your diet. Like knowing where your food comes from can just take it to a whole another level in my opinion. So what did you wind up using as your choice structure as you started to be curious about who was sourcing, let's say your chicken and your beef and your pork?

There are so many small farms around the United States that will ship in and around the United States. And thankfully with social media, I have made friends with a lot of farms and ranches. So I have been able to make those connections. And I just wanna know the animals being raised with respect, giving it the best quality of life that they can give it, they're feeding it.

I do like non-GMO grains and things like that, but I'm not against gradients, as I said before. I don't have to eat the highest quality all of the time, everything, but I do want to make sure that it is good quality, if that makes sense. I feel like it might not. No, no, no, I get it. I get it because look, it does matter what is happening to the animal that you're going to eat because that's going to influence its nutritional value and even like, you know, a potential health effect. But PR, so what are people going to say?

That's a pain in the ass. I don't want to be, I don't have time for this. Most of my diet decisions are based on speed and taste and I'm eating out and I'm grabbing to go and processed food makes it easier. If I'm not at In-N-Out Burger, or at Shake Shack or whatever, but this is like a lifestyle choice.

So like you'll eat meat, but will you go to an in and out burger? Absolutely, yeah, I will go in and out. I think it's important to let people know that these options are out there and encourage people to make these choices when they can. But I am never going to be the person that says, you have to do this all the time.

I do this all the time, 100%. But I do think that it is still important to share that information with people and let them know this is a really good choice you could make. But just because it is a really good choice that you can make and shopping local and knowing the farmer and things like that is probably the best choice that you can make. We're all human, so it's not like we can sustain that level of perfection all the time. So I do absolutely go to In-N-Out still and when I'm in a rush or if I'm hungry and I'm out, I'll absolutely go to In-N-Out.

I'm not a meat snob in any way. I just want people to know. Will you eat the bun? What? Will you eat the bun? No, no, no. Because I am actually, I was gluten free for about 10 years

before I even started carnivore. So I have not touched gluten in a very long time and that is a non-negotiable for me. What if it's a gluten-free bun? Oh, I would eat a gluten-free bun. Again, I'm not scared of these things. It's just that I do prefer to eat the meat and the animal products.

Like if I ever want, if I'm just like, I need to eat this burger with this bun right now, I'm not going to say no to myself and I'm not restrictive in that way. I'll eat it. But again, 99% of the time that the meat is just satisfying on its own. I don't need the bun. So 60% of calories for most people who aren't health obsessed can actually come through what they drink. What do you drink? So I drink water and

dairy. I drink milk and it's usually since I'm here in California we have raw milk so I'll drink raw milk but when I don't have access to raw milk I don't drink as much milk because I just prefer raw milk. But yes, I'll drink water, dairy. I drink coffee on occasion, but I am a weirdo and I drink decaf because I don't like, it's not for any health reasons, it's just I don't like the withdrawal symptoms

that come with caffeine. And so if I ever do just have a hankering for coffee, I'll just do decaf so I don't have to deal with getting headaches. Booze. I will have alcohol like once or twice a year on special occasions, usually in New Year's. And it's usually gin or sake.

And that's an interesting choice. Gin is getting to be popular with you guys. I think it's called a gin rickie, but it's Jen Sparkling Water and a lime. That's usually like what I'll go to, and I'll have a glass of that to celebrate. My feeling has always been, especially as a former bartender, Jen makes you mean,

which is interesting seeing how it is coming from the berry or some of the varieties of it. All right, so you mentioned your husband first of all, tell him thank you very much for his service to the country. Appreciate that. Now, did he get roped into this as well? So he tried it and he eats very similarly to me when he's home, but when he is at work,

like right now he's in Thailand. So he can't really be extremely picky about what he eats, but he is extremely lucky and doesn't have any sort of health issues that would make him kind of need to eat this way. So he can eat kind of more like a standard American diet and be fine. But when he has the option, he does prefer to eat closer to a carnivore way of eating because it does make him feel his best. Have you come to a place where you believe that a lot of what we've been told about what to eat

is just about evolving understanding? Or do you believe that there's something a little shadier that goes on? I think for the most part people genuinely are sharing what they actually believe. I don't think people are trying to purposely misguide someone for a nefarious purposes, I think they're trying to convince people of what they actually believe, which is what I'm doing too. I genuinely believe that this way of eating has helped,

I know it's helped a ton of people and I want more people to know about it. And there's other people who eat differently who have found healing and want to share their story and are completely convinced that their way is the way that people should try. So I don't necessarily think that, of course, I think that there's probably some bad actors, but for the most part, I think people are genuinely sharing what they believe. I agree with you, except for people pushing processed foods.

I put them right there with cigarettes. And now look, I smoke cigars because I like them. And I don't really have any interest in longevity, but I know that smoking cigarettes ain't good. They got us though, and I know back in the 50s and stuff, maybe they felt differently, but you gotta know that you put something that's on fire in your face. It can't be that good, right?

Processed foods, we weren't really told. But now that we have been told, I do believe that the people who've been processing them know. I think it's also is important because there are still a lot of people who believe that all calories are created equal. And that as long as you stay under a certain amount of calories, you can eat whatever you want.

And I think they genuinely believe that. So, but I think it's important for us to continue to get the word out that it's not necessarily about calories, that nutrients are more important and you need to make sure that you're eating nutrient dense foods and getting the essential things that your body needs. And you can't necessarily do that with all diets

or with ultra processed foods. All right, so here's a good one. You and your husband, are you guys in the baby game yet? Yes and no, we aren't trying, but if it happens, it happens. So you're not officially engaged in what I used to call with my wife, operation procreation. So the baby comes, right?

God willing, or whatever you believe and you get a healthy baby. I have actually seen on Instagram, people doing carnivore with their kids. So obviously in the beginning, if everything's working well and you're fortunate, you're breastfeeding the baby, okay? Or you're pumping and you get, right?

So they're feeding off of you for a while. But then you're supposed to go through this whole thing of all these mashed foods and stuff that the rest of us have to struggle through with the kids. Are you gonna try carnivore with the kids or are you going to see how it goes for them with what they usually eat and go from there? I think that I will just do real whole food with kids.

I don't think I will just start with the super restrictive carnivore because I do think that carnivore is a great elimination diet, but I don't think that everyone has to do it. I think that people who have health issues, especially it helps a lot with autoimmune issues, they seem to benefit a lot from carnivore

and eliminating a lot of foods. But I think I'm gonna start with just fruit, I'll probably do fruits, vegetables, like low oxalate vegetables and things like that and definitely meat heavy. But until problems are to arise, or if I notice, hey, this causes this reaction, this causes this reaction,

maybe I should eliminate this and just stick with this, I'll start eliminating something, but I'm not going to just eliminate it right out of the gate. I'll definitely do my best to just do real whole foods and keep in mind that there are plant defense chemicals, those are a real thing. So I'll just be cognizant of that, but I'm not going to force my kid to be carnivore.

When was the first time you took a full bite of a stick of butter? A full bite of a stick of butter. I used to think that was so disgusting when I first started carnivore, and I do not know how people did it. You were correct, by the way. That is absolutely something

that will never go over in mixed company, okay? Yeah, yeah. And I could not fathom how people did it, Absolutely something that will never go over in mixed company. Okay? Yeah, yeah. And I could not fathom how people did it because I used to hate butter. I would not eat butter before carnivore. And then one day it just looked really, really good. And it was just staring at me

and it was just sitting in the fridge. And I was just like, that sounds so good right now. I just want to take a bite out of it. And I picked it up. It was calling my name. I took a bite and I learned this is actually pretty good. And then I started snacking on butter. But yeah, it was just one day.

But with carnivore, that happens. It's very interesting. Your taste completely changes. probably like six months or so in. And you start to crave things that you've never craved before, especially like fatty meats. A lot of women have a lot of big issues eating fatty meat when they first start. And then eventually you're like, oh my gosh, give me that fat. And it's also funny. It's all so funny because it's so counterintuitive. Nobody here is anyone who looks like you say, I want to eat the fat on the steak.

Nobody who looks like me says, I really prefer the fat part of the steak. You know what I mean? We're supposed to cut it off and move it to the side. And anybody who even eats the piece with a little bit on it, they'd be like, ooh, do you know what you just ate? And that's coming from me. I grew up as an Italian kid in Queens

where we like eat pretty much everything of whatever we're eating. You know what I mean? Like fish with the head, like the cartilage off a chicken bone. You know, and even that was supposed to be weird, but you know, I was telling you before we did the podcast, you really brought me back.

We have a daughter who resembles you a little bit. You know, she's a baby version of you. And when she was a baby, she had a thing, fruit and butter. And I was like, I know this is some kind of ism. I know I'm getting a diagnosis on this kid because this kid, when you go to a restaurant, they put like the little balls of butter on the plate. If you didn't snatch that thing away real fast,

she'd pop them like gumballs. It'd be like, boop, boop, boop, boop, all the butter would be gone. We think she was gonna be sick. Anyway, I told her about you. I was like, hey, you wanna see what you're gonna be when you grow up and keep eating that butter? It's way better than I thought, seven, 10 years ago.

So, you know what'll be interesting? And I hope we stay in touch. And I'd love to hear about this if this is the way your life goes. Once you're in the baby game, you're gonna be going to the doctor a lot and they're gonna be looking at your bloods. And it'll be interesting to see what this has done.

And we don't need you for this because, you know, saladino and so many others do so much blood serum testing about LDL and triglycerides and, you know, and how it works. But it'll be interesting to see what your experience is. And I want to thank you for doing this, Jesselyn, because we're like overwhelmed with instant experts and people who are selling things. And that's why I only eat Jesselyn butter.

And there's like a picture of you with like half the, yeah, and you're just like the rest of us. You're a seeker, you're trying to figure it out. You want to look and feel your best. And this is working for you. I appreciate you sharing your story and your conscientiousness about, hey, you better know where your food is coming from.

Absolutely, thank you so much. I completely love cardboard, it changed my life. And I just want to share it more and get it in front of more people just to give them the option to know that it's, you can try it if you want to, but you don't have to. So I've really enjoyed this conversation. Thank you for giving me this platform.

No, absolutely. I appreciate you doing it. Please stay in touch. You know how to get me the best to your husband. And I hope you have a great year. Thank you, YouTube. So what do you think? Could the results for Jocelyn be the same as the results for you? Do you want to learn more?

It's just a Google away. What do you think? What you put in your body matters, but maybe what we've been told isn't the end of the story. Thank you for subscribing, following, appreciate it, and I'll see you at News Nation as always, AP11P, every weekday night. All right, my friends, let's get after it.