The Chris Cuomo Project - Trump Is His Own Worst Enemy
Episode Date: November 11, 2025Chris Cuomo explains why Donald Trump’s greatest threat isn’t the radical left or his political opponents — it’s his own agenda. From tariffs and SNAP cuts to open corruption and tone-deaf opt...ics like his privately funded “Arc de Trump,” Cuomo argues Trump’s way of “keeping promises” is destroying the very movement that built him. Cuomo shows how Trump’s policies are punishing the same working-class voters who powered his rise, turning MAGA into a movement divided against itself. He also looks at how Democrats could seize the moment by offering real fixes — not just outrage — and how the coming battles over affordability, healthcare, and corruption could reshape both parties before the 2026 midterms. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Support our sponsors: Get firearm security redesigned and save 15% off @StopBoxUSA with code CUOMO at https://www.stopboxusa.com/CUOMO #stopboxpod Reverse hair loss with @iRestorelaser and unlock HUGE savings on the iRestore Elite with the code CUOMO at https://www.irestore.com/CUOMO! Go to cozyearth.com/CHRIS for up to 40% off! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Hey, President Trump.
Hey, Maga.
You got it wrong about who your biggest enemy is,
but you're right that they are taking you down.
I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. I've been hearing it for a while right now.
You know, it's the radical left. It's these jihadis. It's these people who want all trans kids in America and to play against your daughters and so on and so on and so on. And all it has done is birthed your bigger, more.
more angry, more active nemesis.
MAGA now has an equal opposite, which is actually bigger in terms of people and energy than MAGA ever was, called mega, in my opinion.
A bigger version of what MAGA was, more outrage, different culture wars, but lines up pretty easy.
That is not your enemy.
Your real enemy, that's your opposition.
your enemy is what is doing you harm.
Your opposition isn't what's doing you harm.
Your opposition is your competition.
And how the elections go, we'll decide that.
Your enemy, what is destroying you, is Trump's agenda and how he is acting on it.
And I can prove it to you.
Okay?
There is an interesting cross-section in politics where things are both unpopular.
and destructive.
So how do we see this?
Tax hike.
Unpopular, almost always.
Even if you say you're only going to tax the rich,
you're only going to tax the top.
Did you know there's an interesting psychological phenomenon in our politics
where when I say that only the top two tiers are going to get taxed
and you will actually get a tax cut,
people are still against the tax hike because they have an aspiration.
if completely illogical notion, unrealistic notion, that they will be in those brackets
someday. And it's kind of like the tax hike is yucking your yum. It's killing your dream
of being in that higher tax bracket someday. Isn't that perverse? Isn't that weird?
But it's very real. So tax hike unpopular, but actually very helpful would make a very big
difference, especially right now. Big revenue problems, big problems with how much support and
enjoyment the top gets from our system versus the rest. What else is like that? Since President
Trump has gotten in this time, he is doing everything. They all say promises kept, promises
kept. Let's look a little bit more closely at that because the promises that he's keeping or the way
that he's keeping his promises. Let's say that. The way he's keeping those promises may barely
be satisfying MAGA, and I don't care what they say in polls about how much they like it. If they
are being honest, life has not gotten better for them except on social media. Look at what he's done.
The tariffs have not made prices come down. Oh, well, they still could. I mean, that is
wishful thinking that has nothing to do with the tariff. The tariff is absolutely a tax that must be
absorbed, and that almost always finds its end in higher prices to the consumer. That is economics.
Could it lead to better deals that then reduce that tariff and change the prices and bring
back manufacturing and add to jobs and add to wages? Yeah, sure. And my hairline could grow back
in the next month and a half.
About a same chance of each.
If it, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, then it makes sense.
But if without if it, if, if, that, then it didn't make sense.
And it made things worse.
That's how he kept his promise.
Gas and groceries, gas and groceries.
That pissed people off.
It created more grievance.
How he did the tariffs, the abusing of power, pardoning a guy he's now pretending not to know.
allowing his sons to make gazillions.
Drain the swamp.
Biden and his conflicts with his son.
Nothing compared to what this guy is doing
out in the open with his own.
The way he's keeping his promise is making it worse
and putting it in your face and forcing you to swallow it
is killing the energy of MAGA and feeding the energy of mega
because it is so corrupt and so obvious.
Affordability, affordability, affordability, affordability, affordability, get used to it.
It does not mean it's the economy's stupid.
It does not mean pocketbook wins.
It is code.
Affordability means the top has to come down and the rest has to come up.
Someone must be blamed for my inability to get unstuck in this society.
And it means something has to break.
that's what it means both sides are going to fight over ownership of it we're about affordability we're
about affordability no we're really about affordability no we are but on both sides they're just going
to talk about who to blame and what to break not how to fix why fixing is hard fixing is hard so instead
of that what do you do ukraine war ice uh immigration uh all distractions all distractions from what was
supposed to matter first, America first, the economy, the prices, the gas, the groceries, those
were the promises. And the fixes are just as fanciful as free, free, free. Now, Democrats have
an option that MAGA does not. Maga is stuck with Trump and Trump echoes, right? Democrats have a
choice. You have your angry fringe alternative that's playing with fundamentalism and anti-Semitic
ideas. Or you have what won in Virginia and frankly in California and in New Jersey,
which is people who are committed to getting better out of the system. Not as sexy,
not fueled by outrage, but effective. They used to say boring wins in politics. At the end of
the day, the majority wants boring. It wants someone who's not all about charisma and flash
and outrage, but actually fixing and getting things done and collaborate. I think that was true. I do not
it is true right now. I think charisma is enough. I think outrage is the commodity. I think it's
everything. And that's why the issue is not the economy or tax policy or any kind of distribution
of opportunities and how that works and what's incentivized, but what is punished.
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So, back to Trump
and how he is his biggest enemy.
It's not just his mouth and fake news
and all that other bullshit.
It's building a ballroom
with private money,
with people who just tend to have government contracts.
It's in-your-face corruption.
That's what it is.
Do you want to know why the president wants to build the Ark de Trump?
And no, it's not because it's, you know, it's an analog to the Arc de Triumph in France, in Paris.
That's not what it is.
It's because, one, he believes in the legacy effect of building something.
That's why he's always wanted to be a builder the way his father was.
And why he was impressed by my brother doing LaGuardia and Moynihan Station and that other
Because when you build something that lasts, it's there, your name is always on it.
But there's another reason that he doesn't give a shit about the glory of the cause.
He cares about his own self-clorification.
And he wants this monument to his greatness with your money.
Oh, no, he's going to do private money.
Hey, listen.
Again, this is shit sandwich versus piss porridge.
Okay?
How?
we're using private money to build a ballroom. What do you care? Well, first of all, you destroyed part of a national monument to create something that sends the exact message of excess and largesse at a time that so many are literally fucking starving. Okay? His animus towards his opponents is more powerful than any of his promises to him. How do we know? Snap?
Disproportionately, MAGA voters need those benefits, need the ACA subsidies.
The overlap between those two things is very high.
He intentionally, you can say the Democrats shut it down.
They did to have this fight.
They did to have this fight.
But the SNAP benefits are proof of this.
Yes, the Democrats shut down the government, but to have the fight over the ACA subsidies.
Oh, but they designed the ACA subsidies to expire so they didn't really.
want them? That's a fucking lie. Yes, they had to be a short-term fix. Because the Democrats
wanted them to end? No, because of the reconciliation process. You're only allowed to do short-term
additions to the budgeting process under those rules. Anyone who tells you otherwise is playing you
for a fool. Of course they wanted them to be permanent. Well, they were made too much during the
pandemic. Yeah, because of the pandemic. Look, it's a legitimate political argument. If you want the subsidies to
less because they were inflated during the pandemic and we don't need them to be anymore, fine.
If you want the reimbursement rates to states for emergency care that they have to provide by law
to people who are often undocumented, fine. I think the Democrats should give Republicans that issue.
You decide what those reimbursement rates should be. You own it. You own that message. If it works for you,
great. I don't think it will. I don't know why Democrats won't do it. I don't know why they don't
listen to me. That's what it was supposed to be about, and we need that fight. This way,
with a shutdown? No, I'm against it. Shutdown should be illegal. We don't have any other leverage.
That's because you suck. No, it's because we're not in power. When you were in power,
you didn't do shit about it. That's why you're out of power. So I have no mercy. I have no
feeling for that. I don't believe in the righteousness of this shutdown. I believe in the
righteousness of the cause on health care. Why won't they tell you the most important factor in the
debate? Why won't Trump ever mention the subsidy to private corporations if he's against the rich
and the powerful because they can't own him and he's going to fight back against them? Why doesn't he
tell you that? That after Medicare and Medicaid, it's subsidies to big rich corporations that pay
their top people gazillions and choke labor and try to find ways to replace them and cut them.
Why do they get that subsidy? Oh, because they wouldn't give you health care.
otherwise. Why? Why? Why don't you change the rules? So that it doesn't benefit them to do what
they should do. Don't incentivize it. Incentivize you. We don't get free health care from the
companies, the 160 million of us or so. You still have to pay. I'll just get my letter that my
price is going up. Promise is kept. It's how you keep the promise. You're going to withhold
snap, have a court force you to do it, say you're waiting on court guidance when you'd already been
given it. And then you're going to have people go out there and lie and
and say, oh, it's a mixed, we don't know.
It wasn't in 2018, 2019, during the last shutdown.
When the USDA said the reserve funds were there available for SNAP, what changed?
I'll tell you what changed.
Trump and his people had them change the USDA guidance so that they could withhold SNAP right now.
Why would they do that?
Because they hate poor people?
No.
They want you to hate poor people.
They want you to blame poor people.
They want to demonize them.
That's this crazy-ass faux Christian, us,
versus them bullshit on MAGA, that propel the intensity of mega.
That's on Trump, his choices, build a ballroom in this economy.
Oh, it's other people's money.
Another conflict, more corruption, right in my face?
Pardon someone, you say, you don't know who he is?
Are you kidding me?
The guy makes tens of millions of dollars, creates the stable coin for your sons?
You don't know who he is?
The most money in any single transaction
to ever come into your family?
And you don't know who he is.
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This is the big enemy.
This is what's killing MAGA.
This is what is fueling Mega.
How he's keeping his promises.
the tariffs that are making your prices go up, demonizing all illegal entrances if they're all the
same, and what that message sends and how you enforce it, telling his people to not work with
Democrats.
Now, that's going to change.
Why?
Because the shutdown is poison for these parties.
Everybody's pissed at it, and you should be.
They're all doing it for themselves and their advantage of one over.
the other, not for you. They don't give a shit about you. That's the truth. Ballroom, arc,
tariffs, ice. All of these things taken together are what the big enemy is for MAGA. You are not
getting what you wanted economically, socially. Yeah, there's more hard talk about trans and what
happens in our schools, but that shit was never really happening anyway.
Right? I mean, what have you heard about that fix? Is there a rule that trans people can't be in sports? Nope.
Has there been any hard curriculum change? No, you just stop talking about it.
The health care battle is real. The expense problem there is real. And they're not even telling you the main reason for it.
ObamaCare never worked. You never tweaked it after it was originally created. And you didn't, you know,
told red states not to accept the Medicaid expansion that would have brought down rates in those
states and created more choice. You set it up to fail. You tried to repeal it 70-something times,
and you never had anything to replace it with. And then during the election, you said you had
concepts of a plan. The way you keep the promises is killing you and fueling the reaction
formation to you. Now, will you take the lesson on the left? I don't.
don't think so, not with what I'm seeing. Now, with no kings, I think there's potential. With
what went in New York City? I don't see it the same way, man. I don't think playing with
anti-Semitism and free Palestine is going to resonate with the majority in America any more
than white fright did. White fright, Christian nationalism, neo-nationalism, right?
Nativism, xenophobia, versus anybody who doesn't like anything that comes out of Islamism,
is Islamophobic?
That's the new one.
And all the people pushing that are just as bad as all the people pushing this.
Right?
Okay?
Tin Poole.
All those guys on the right, the pod bros,
Mehdi Hassan, Jank Uighur, all those pod bros on the left.
Equal opposites selling you cancer.
Selling you cancer.
Oh, there's nothing wrong with people who want to kill Jews
and think there should be no Israel.
There's nothing wrong with that.
And if you think there is, you're an Islamophob.
There's nothing wrong with white pride
and wanting us to have more white babies
and wanting to have less brown people
and keep our blood pure.
Nothing wrong.
I mean, are you fucking kidding me?
It's not even a close call.
How can we be here?
Ah, that's a tough one.
That's a tough one.
Anger and outrage.
Those are the commodities.
We've never had them amplified by the media before.
Another lie.
The media, they've done this.
Really?
Really.
Just like everything else, it's degree.
Did the media fall down on its job of doing what we're supposed to do as best as we could?
Of course we did.
But what did that open the door to?
Worse.
No fucking way you look at social media and tell me it's an improvement.
No way.
More is not always.
better. We've never had this much
mis and disinformation, and you
fucking know it, especially in our politics.
You have no clue what's true.
No way you thought that was true 15 years ago.
No, oh yeah, because we just believed all the lies.
No, now you do. Now you do.
There is no some say. There is no
allegedly. There are no question marks.
Everybody bullshit you about everything all the time
because there's no accountability.
there's none
what is this state of play
between left and right
white
fucking pride
versus you know
I'm down with brown
extreme
that's what it is
right
you get
you're an Islamophob
you're a Nazi
you're a blah
blah blah
that's all it is
Don Lemon and Megan Kelly
she's a tranny
that's the
to play. This is the battle of ideas. This is the social media marketplace of ideas that you say
is so much better. Seriously. You now have people on the left telling you to get a weapon for when
ice comes. They sound just like what they used to dismiss. It's absurd. In MAGA, why do you need a
weapon for when the government comes? When a government come. Tarani. The tyranny of government,
man. I'm ready. Yeah, I'm mocking your stupid ass because it's a stupid ass the thing that
say. Same way I'm saying this. You better get your weapon. You better be ready because they're
going to come. You don't even know how to use a fucking gun. Going against police officers when
they're acting under color of authority. Whoa, but it's a bad arrest. Yeah, so you should shoot the
cop. So fucking stupid. This is the battle of the fringes. And it is the enemy of Trump perversely.
It got him here. But once he got into power in a way he could be held to account, without
a pandemic to erase the prioritization that should exist, right? Because the crisis changed the
calculus, right? We saw he couldn't do well in a pandemic crisis. But now that he's just
being measured by what he does without an intervening crisis, now he's got power. Now he's got
to own the status quo. And his real enemy is how he keeps his promises. More corruption,
in your face corruption, worse economic moves, worse,
policy moves, more toxic talk, not less.
And I know you'll show me polls that say, yeah, but the MAGA people say they're happy.
What are they going to say?
We were wrong.
This sucks.
This is worse.
Nobody says that.
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So where does it leave us? Well, we just got a little dose of perspective in these off-season
elections. And remember, not a quadrennial election, not a presidential election, not a mid-term,
election, a one-off. So what does that mean? Well, got to be slow about the message. Now, I do believe
that the mayoralty race in New York City is a metaphor for what's happening on the mass scale in the
country more than Virginia or California, the Proposition 50 or in Maine or in New Jersey, if I haven't
said that yet. I do. Why? Because there's a lot more money, a lot more interest, and there's a lot
more messaging that's national in nature. Now, why aren't I beating up on Zoran Mamdani?
My brother just ran against him lost twice. And I knew he would both times. And why? Because he's up
against the movement. And Andrew is not what Democrats want to be right now. That's true. Do I think
they're right? No, who cares? I'm not a Democrat. I don't even recognize that party.
And the idea of Mamdani quoting my father is a joke. My father would have a lot. My father would have
laughed at him. And he would have been really embarrassed by this. And he would have been really sad
for the people who were putting faith in AOC and these charlatans because he actually fought for
them. He actually made things change for them. And he hated people selling false hope to those
who were already struggling. He hated it. So I don't demonize him because I don't think that that
matters. I also think he's a mascot. I think he's a puppet. And I do think you're going to learn
about the people who are around him. I think he's going to be backpedaling a lot. Not just from
his promises. That's easy. Trump's doing the same thing. They're both false profits, right?
But, and it's easier for him to back off. Well, I didn't mean like free boss. I meant like we should
bring the price down. We should do this. I didn't mean free growth. I mean, we should do this.
We should do that. I mean, that's easy. And he can't get any of it done anyway. So,
it'll just be able to blame the system. I'm not worried about that. On the cultural side,
I do worry for the Jews. And if God forbid something happens that involves an extreme Islamist,
Not a Muslim.
Now, for those of you who are saying, fuck you, Chris, every extreme Islamist is a Muslim.
I disagree.
Now, not only because of Luigi Mangione, you know, because he's not an extreme Islamist,
he's just an extremist, a fundamentalist, and I believe they're all the same.
You don't.
Okay.
You're wrong, but that's okay.
Here's why I say that.
Am I the same as a Christian zealot who bombs a plumbed a plumbed?
place where women get health care. No. We do not believe the same things. I know they say
they're a Christian. They're a fucking idiot. They're wrong. Same thing. I know you say you're a
Muslim. Oh, no, it's right in the Quran. Oh, please. And I can't find you all the same shit in the
Bible. You're another fake book that you believe is the word of whatever? Give me a break.
We all have our stories. An extreme Islamist, someone who turns to
terror of violence, is someone who is rejecting the idea of any type of higher positive power
or any type of set of rules that help you live a better life, they are rejecting that.
And I'm not going to blame all Muslims. Now, is there an issue about how the community speaks out
when, yeah, sure, it's true with the Jews, it's true with the Muslims? That when some of you do
something fucked up. The rest of you do have an exigency. You do have a responsibility,
especially because of this vacuum of ignorance, to stand up and say, hey, look, that's not us. I do.
I don't think you do it enough. I'll be honest. And I know that that's an unfair piece of pressure,
but it's what it is. The same way I got to stand up and say, look, I know some of you think
I should be going at Mom Donnie because he beat my brother twice, but that's not how I do. Why?
Because there's a responsibility on me to be fair. I think my brother would have been better for
the city. Absolutely. He knows how to work with it.
in government better. He's a proven leader. He knows how to do things. This guy's never had a
fucking job. Everything I just said is a fact. Now, you can have feelings about what that means
and what that means about Andrew and what that means about him. That's fine. There's what an election's
about. And he won it easily. So here we are. And I think he's going to back off a lot of this
stuff, but you got to look at who's pulling the strings. Oh, well, Andrew's billionaire donors.
Listen, nobody wants the money out of politics more than I do. Neither of these sides.
want a unilaterally disarmed. You're going to say you'd rather people who work for care
and for extreme Islamist ideological organizations versus other kinds of rich people. Okay, that's your
choice. I think all the money is bad. But I think there's an extra with the source of that money.
And we'll see. You'll see what it is. Now the people pulling his strings are not just the people
with the crazy ideas where Jews are involved, AOC, Bernie.
Here's my problem with them.
You don't fix anything.
You don't even propose good fixes.
You just attack and attack and attack,
which makes you no different than the MAGA messengers.
Now, I do believe it's right to be examining
who makes and how much they give.
I do.
But you don't do anything about it.
You don't even bring up the third largest health care subsidy,
which is to these corporations.
Why do they get that kind of incentive?
because otherwise they wouldn't provide insurance
and change the rules
that if you don't,
you can't be on our list
in our markets.
And you don't do something, you mofos.
You're not capitalizing.
You're fomenting tension
and you're personally capitalizing,
but you're not changing the reality for people.
You're not.
Trump's,
MAGA's biggest enemy
is how he's keeping his promises.
That's the opportunity for you.
But we're not impeller.
But you can say what you would do that's differently.
You can say what you would do differently.
Not say it differently.
What would you do that is different from him?
Plans, ideas.
You don't want that.
Why, this is easier.
You criticize Montvani.
You're an Islamophobe.
Free, everything is good.
Socialism is good.
That's not what Abigail Spanberger thinks.
And that's the battle within the left.
See, Maga does not have this burden.
right they have all eaten their shit sandwich they're in all they can do is look at you and say you're
crazy and you're making that easy for them but you still have a big advantage over maga with mega
i think the mega is going to catch on by the way you'll see should trademark it spamberger says
you should never use the word socialism spamberger worked for the CIA spamburger was in congress
spamburger is about getting things done within the system and trying to make it better that way
I think that wins with the majority.
I know it's boring.
It's not as sexy.
It's practical.
This is easier.
Social media plays off this.
That's why nobody knows who Abigail Spanberger is.
I get it.
But I don't like it.
And I don't think you should either.
The biggest enemy for Trump and MAGA is how he's keeping his promises.
There is opportunity in that that is not being utilized on the left right now.
Even in health care.
Go at him with the changes we need to see.
Not just he's demonizing people by denying snares.
nap and not wanting to deal with the subsidies. That's true, but it's not enough. Not to do more
than just outrage. Trump's biggest enemy is what he's doing. Attack it and show that you can do
better. What do you think? Thank you for checking me out here and on News Nation, AP, and 11P
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And as you know, I give away a lot of the money and you can get some satisfaction
out of being part of that as well.
My brothers and sisters, I'm going to have a whole new line of gear to impress upon you
being a critical thinker that you are different.
You do not want to be what's happening.
You do not want to make this choice.
You do not have to be different, be a critical thinker and independent.
that is all be a free agent and the money you know what we're going to do with it and you'll be part of
that the problems are real i still believe the solution is to see it for what it is and let's get after
it's not just you news is faster than ever and i'm hoping that i can help you
you make sense of it all. My name is Jamie Poisson and I host Canada's most popular daily news
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