The Chris Cuomo Project - What The Democrats Got Wrong in the 2024 Election

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Chris Cuomo analyzes the Democrats’ poor performance in the recent election, breaking down the lessons they must learn to regain their footing. Cuomo explores why focusing on cultural issues over economic concerns hurt their chances, the impact of identity politics on voter perception, and how Trump’s coalition capitalized on grievances. He challenges Democrats to reconnect with working-class voters, address economic pain, and avoid alienating the majority by overemphasizing niche issues.  Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Support our sponsors: AG1 Every week of November, AG1 will be running a special Black Friday over for a free gift with your first subscription, in addition to the Welcome Kit with Vitamin D3+K2. So make sure to check out. DrinkAG1.com/ccp to see what gift you can get this week!   Select Quote Get the right life insurance for YOU, for LESS, at SELECT QUOTE DOT COM SLASH CHRISC to get started RadioActive Media  TEXT CHRIS TO 511511 OR ON THE WEB AT RADIOACTIVEMEDIA.COM. TEXT RATES MAY APPLY. Ground News  Go to http://groundnews.com/chris to get 40% off the unlimited access Vantage plan. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Yes, the narrative is the Democrats got wiped out. That is true in terms of outcomes, House, Senate, White House. Okay, that's the trifecta and you lost all of them. Now, if you wanna figure out what the lesson is from it, the first piece of good news is there is a clear message. Okay? And it's not the Democrats are done.

I mean, look, look at what happened with the Republicans. Were they done in 2020? Were they done in the midterms that were supposed to be a red wave? And they weren't, right? So it's cyclical. And a big part of the reason that it's not just cyclical, it's really pendular,

it's because of this stupid binary system that we're in, this two party system. It's really, really is the root of the reason that it's not just cyclical, it's really pendular. It's because of this stupid binary system that we're in, this two party system. It's really, really is the root of the problem. I know it is. And I know the response to that is, what do you mean? This is the system, it's always been. Why do you think George Washington warned us to avoid parties?

So many great leaders have. Just because something is a certain way doesn't mean that's the way it should be or the best way it can be. So for Democrats, just because something is a certain way, doesn't mean that's the way it should be or the best way it can be. So for Democrats, the good news is that there's a clear message. When you look at demographics, other than the LGBTQ plus community,

and I get your comments about what that full set of letters is, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. It changes, it evolves. I try to keep up with it. If some people are adding to it or there's a new convention that I miss, I'm sorry and I'll correct it, okay? It's not about disrespect.

And part of the message is, because I get it wrong, doesn't mean I'm your enemy. And doesn't mean that the best move for you to build consensus, to build more appreciation of your position, of your population, of your interest is to try to destroy me for getting it wrong. And that's part of the lesson, but I'll get to that. When you look across the demographics,

other than that community, and single women, and a couple of other little pocket interests, you saw that across the board people underperformed for Democrats. Okay? The idea that Trump built a new coalition is not true. It is still six plus votes out of 10 for him or white people. I think it's eight out of 10 actually, but the point is not that Trump is a bigot or whites who vote for Trump are racist.

We gotta get away from all the judgment, all right? And just look at the data, look at the overarching themes and you will see very, very clear understandings, okay? What Trump did is he definitely peeled off some black and especially Latino men. Why? Well, Latino men don't fall into the Trump narrative that all people of Latinate or Latinx or Hispanic or whatever you want to call it,

heritage are the same and are sneaking across the border, okay? A lot of them are born here, multi-generations. A lot of them who are immigrant or second generation came here the right way. They are traditionally conservative as families across ethnic identities. What does that mean? Honduran versus Ecuadorian versus Nicaraguan versus Brazilian versus Argentine versus Cuban versus Puerto Rican.

I mean, many different types, Spanish, they're very different types. But culturally consistent is emphasis on family, not unusual really for any ethno type, but culturally conservative, overweighted Christian, right? And now part of the emerging population of the far right evangelical communities.

They're actually outpacing Catholics in acquisition norm. I guess that's the wrong word, but let's just say expanding their reach into that community, okay? So they voted the men 12 points that way. Why? Because of what I just told you. And the idea that they would be angry at Trump

for the way he speaks about illegal entrance or migrants is a little worthy of review because obviously they didn't do what you thought they would do. Why not? Because they hate themselves? No, they don't see themselves in those people. There's different ethnicities and there's also the way you look at whatever you are, whatever your race, whatever your ethnicity, whatever your identity, you don't identify with everybody of your type, right? Some of them you like, some of them you think are great, but different than you,

and others you think are bad and different than you. Same thing. So they moved. Black men moved. Now there's this undercurrent, yeah, that's because they hate women. I think that again, that is playing to the problem and not the solution.

And I don't mean that their sexism or racism is a problem. I'm saying that your problem, the Democrats problem is looking at it through the lens of Harris didn't win because she's a black woman. Now, do I think that being a black woman is part of the analysis? Yeah. Do I think it's the whole analysis? Absolutely not.

And this is part of the lesson, okay? When I said focus less on who is woke and more on who is broke, that's what I meant. I didn't mean woke is dead, woke is bad. I mean, this is the problem, right? Twisting of things to create division, to create us and them, to take down your opposition instead of just having better ideas.

The Democrats did too much of that. What are you talking about? Listen to Trump. He does it all the time. Don't look at Trump as a model for yourself. He is a mascot for a grievance movement. The people who voted for him believe that he is not fundamentally different from you. That's because they normalized.

No. fundamentally different from you. That's because they normalized, no. What is normal is that people believe politics and politicians suck. That they are liars, they are perfidious, they are all kinds of bad things. The system is rigged, it is on the take, things are not equal, the people in power get disproportionate benefit, and there are special interests, and everybody lies, and everybody gets away with crimes, and all this other stuff.

Such that, when those things are present in great degree and in exaggerated fashion in Donald Trump, they don't see him as an outlier. They see him as proof of concept that this is the way these powerful people are. This is it. And they're just coming after him because he's against them. And that's a big part of it. It's not that his qualities

and his attributes have been normalized. It's that people believe that they're being exaggerated for advantage by the system and the culture and the establishment and the elites and in this and that, whatever they're against. So Trump is not an archetype. He is not a model. He is an aberration.

He is an anomaly. And that's okay. These are not criticisms. These are just qualifications. And the movement behind him is what you have to address. Forget about Trump. Ignore what Trump says, even as president-elect and as eventually president.

Focus only on what he does. Learn the lesson. Learn the lesson. Oh, but they say they're going to blah, blah, blah, blah. How are you going to do this? How are you going to do that? How much is it gonna cost? What about these people?

What about this? What about... Wait until you see the actual proposal. Wait until you see what they try to make, an executive action or a legislative action. Then assess. Two reasons. One, you don't know what it is yet. And you are allowing Trump and co. to say, look, look, look how they attack everything. Look,

this is all they do. And second, you're just exhausting yourself. You're exhausting yourself. You're constantly believing that this guy is one step from having a little mustache like this and all the things that come along with it. Wait and see what happens. Don't focus on Trump, not as a model for yourself and not as a model for what will work for you against him and in a future without him.

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So, what do we now know? The message was pretty clear across the country of what people wanted. Their interests, not yours or your party's. People think about themselves, their families, and a little bit where they are, their community, right? Democrats used to, if you go back and look, Obama's coalition, Clinton's coalition,

working class, unions, a lot of those people have been distracted by cultural issues. Now, Democrats have asked for that with some of their positions and the degree. See, it's not just what you're about, it's how much you're about that thing. There is, in my opinion, nothing wrong with wokeness as a function of being aware of systemic inequality, being aware of the needs for minorities. This is the democratic tradition at its best. This is Mario Cuomo. This is

Jesse Jackson. This is Teddy Kennedy. This is Bill Clinton. This is Barack Obama. Okay? This is Jimmy Carter, certainly in his post presidency. It is good to fight for the working man and women. It is good to work for the people who should be given every opportunity to succeed and fail on their own merits and achieve their dreams. To the extent that government can get out of the way of that, it should. To the extent that government can motivate that, it should. And that's what the Democratic Party was. Now, the Republicans have taken a lot of those people, but they've taken them, I would argue, under false pretenses. The idea that things were better under Trump economically

is an incomplete analysis. He doesn't include the pandemic in his reckoning of his own record. That's convenient. And they don't give Biden the benefit of coming out of a pandemic. Why don't you look at Trump's record of what he came in with, thanks to Obama?

Take a look at that. We were rocking and rolling when he came in. It was always gonna be all culture. And I'm not saying that all cultural battles don't matter. Look, let's just deal with the big one, okay? And let me give you a quick summary. Democrats need to remember what makes them powerful, which is appeals to the many, not just the few. Get back to the economic realities of people.

Stay out of their lives as parents and as bedfellows as much as you can. Okay? Do not see a boogeyman in everything that you disagree with. It's not just what you're about, it's how much you're about it, okay? That is the recipe for Democrats and there is great opportunity because even though you lost all across the board, you didn't lose by much anywhere. Even in the popular vote,

very rare for Republicans to win, as Trump did. But let it be a reset for you. You cannot just fight on the interests of the few and put them on the many, not as cultural beliefs and not as economic realities. Now you didn't really do it on the economic side. You were too quiet on it because you were afraid of owning the status quo. But you did do it on the cultural side. Now again, it's not about what you're for.

As I said, it's about how much. And you should absolutely continue because it's needed. Okay, America is about not allowing the many to subjugate the few, but it is not about allowing the few to subjugate the many, see? And we have the how much fucked up right now, but you can recalibrate that. Fight for trans.

When the issue is defined as should male athletes who transitioned to females be able to compete against females. At this point in time, even with the standards they put in, which I've taken the time to research, one year of this, what does it do? There's no retesting, there's no calibration, there's no measure.

So as of now, the equities fall on the side of not allowing it. So one is too many. I know there aren't many cases of this. There should not be any. Well, then what's the answer? I don't know. But again, you do not punish the many because of the few.

Oh, but it's so few people, but one is too many. My daughter, not getting a record, not getting a scholarship, not getting a place on a team, not getting any experience, because she is bested by somebody who is genetically superior as an ideal. a record, not getting a scholarship, not getting a place on a team, not getting any experience, because she is bested by somebody who is genetically superior as an idea. If it's not within the same gender, biologically, it's not fair. But don't allow that to be the issue.

Don't die on that hill. Die on the hill of respecting the reality that these people are hunted because of their sense of identity. Die on that hill. Die on fairness for treatment and respect and how these kids are bullied and treated. Don't die on the hill of allow every child to make decisions about their own medical care.

Why? Why would we make an exception for kids when it comes to identity that we don't make for anything else? Why? Why would you interfere with parents on this level of this? Oh, all the kids' pains, kids are in pain from cancer. Kids are in pain from leukemia. You don't get involved with how the parenting works in that structure.

This is more complicated. It's emotional. It's a psychological find. Worry about yourself. You cannot let your appreciation and your interest for the few affect what you require of the many. That is the message of this election. That is why Democrats underperformed. They did not own the economic reality of pain

at the gas, grocery, rent, and mortgage counter, let's say, as a metaphor. And you played down people's pain. And you went too hard on cultural understandings and exceptions that don't fit normative understanding. Well, too bad. No, now it's too bad for you. You tried the condescending, arrogant, too bad, I'll cancel you if you don't like it. It didn't work in this election.

It'll work case by case, especially if the media is involved and it's people who are media sensitive, like me or an actor or somebody with a public company or an employer, the cancel thing will probably endure. You just can't cancel Trump. Why? Because he's not sensitive to media scrutiny or any company and his people don't play by your rules. They believe that you are a mob

and that you are doing things that are mobish out of convenience. Nobody's even gotten back and look at the companies that the people worked at, the bold-faced names who were taken out by Me Too to see if those places are better now and how, why not? Was the interest just taking people out, collecting scalps or was it change? Democrats have a gift of clarity.

There is no maybe it was this, maybe it was that. You know why you lost. And look, it is not fair to put it all on Harris. Being a black woman is a disadvantage in my opinion. I don't think it's what motivated people, not overall. It's not why blacks didn't come out the same way. It's not why Latinos and other minorities didn't come out the same way, I do not think.

I guess it's plausible that some blacks and some women don't wanna vote for blacks or women, I guess, but I don't think that's the main idea here. The process you had spoke to you not respecting democracy while you were saying he was a threat to democracy. Is a party the same as what he did with our presidential election? No.

Is it the same as January 6th? No. But the bar is very low because it's binary and it's you and them. And are you really better than them if you subvert democracy in your own way by fucking with your party process, lying about the status of the president of the United States

or exaggerating it or pretending it's not there or not as obvious as it was to all of us and then shortcutting the process to put in the person you wanted at the upper echelons. Oh, but all the people at the convention voted for her. That's not the same thing as a primary, and you know it. And, oh, but look at Trump, look at yourselves. Look at yourselves.

Trump sucks was not enough because people care about themselves. And Trump sucks is not enough because you suck. And, but we don't suck like Trump, but I'm saying it takes away the advantage. People keep asking, does character matter anymore? Does morality matter anymore? Yeah, it matters. It's always mattered for me in my life and to be judged by the people around me, not by you, and not for you to tell me what that is and what is right and what is wrong and what is enough and

what is not enough. Nobody wants to hear why you're a better person than Donald Trump. I hope you are, but nobody wants to hear it. Why? Because they don't believe you and they want you to stay out of telling them how to feel about moral judgments and get the message. The system is what they are against.

And part of the system is cultural mores and affects that are put on them. Look across the demos, look across the socioeconomics. The more people are hurting in this economic environment, this crazy dichotomy we have between the rich and everybody else. You are seen as being with the rich. I know you may not like it. I know you may think that's crazy.

That's the perception. That's what we just live through. And even if it's just a perception and not the reality, you still have to deal with it because perception is reality often in politics. Well, that's about misinformation and disinformation and social media and media. They say the same things.

They won. Well, that's because they used it more. Not really. I see bullshit coming from both sides. Do I believe that there's more dedicated to promoting right fringe? Yes. Do I believe digital media is almost entirely populated

with people pushing right fringe ideas. Yes, it's one of the reasons I have a podcast to try to balance it out. Not because I'm a lefty, I'm not. Not because I'm a Democrat, I'm not. I don't believe in the parties. I'm not a Republican either. I didn't vote for Trump and I didn't vote for Harris

because I believe those choices were unacceptable. Oh no, no, you have to pick one. That's why nothing changes. That's why nothing changes. Nothing changes because nothing changes. And we have the same thing every time around. This time was more exaggerated, but same thing every time around.

And now you had a majority of people, he will win the popular vote, okay? Because more people care about themselves, keeping it simple, playing small ball on economics, grocery prices, gas prices. I don't wanna hear about the stock market. I don't wanna hear about 401k. I don't wanna hear about corporate profits

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Now, I think there's an opportunity in that for you as well as Democrats. Trump is going to get really churchy, not by his own disposition, but because of the coalition. Okay? There's going to be a lot more Christian speak. Look, I was raised Catholic, okay? I choose to have faith. It is a very intense and complicated thing for me personally, but that's my business. The idea of it coming in, this Texas case about teaching Bible stories, not only is it obviously violative of the First Amendment, but of why?

My father was right when he said, we've got to be careful about putting our faith on everybody right now, just because we believe we're in the majority, because someday we won't be, and then we will have created precedent for it to be done to us. That's why you don't do it, especially in a secular society.

This is not a theocratic society. Well, but they were all Christian. It's based on Judeo-Christian ethic. Why did the Founding Fathers, who were vague about many things, why were they so definite in not having any mention of God or of religious supremacy or of God or of religious supremacy or of Christianity or of Christendom in the Constitution.

Why did they make it so important that government not create any law to establish a religion? Why did they say there can be no religious test for anybody as an officer or as a office holder in our constitutional representative democracy. Why? Because we're a secular society. You wanna teach the lessons, teach the lessons.

If you wanna do comparative religion and go through the book of virtues, like the guy wrote 30, 40 years ago, conservative guy, I forget his name, but it's the Book of Virtues. Look it up, build something. But do that. But then give a fair representative of all of them. Don't just pick Christianity.

You're just asking for trouble. And we don't need that. And there's an opportunity for Democrats in this. Not to be anti-God, but to be pro-inclusion. Just have it be about everything. I believe money well spent in our public curriculum, our school curriculum would be a citizenship course. I believe it.

Families are breaking down, communities are breaking down, institutions are breaking down. And the last place to make men and arguably women, strong, ethical, moral women and men is the military. And it's woefully inadequate. Why not have a citizenship course? Teach people what society is about, how it's supposed to work,

how you're supposed to get along, how you're supposed to disagree, what is acceptable and what is not in our society? And not just felony or fine. Put the golden rule in there. Every major religion has the same ideas. Teach people what it means to be a good person. I have no problem with that as a citizenship course, but just doing it as a faith, there's an opportunity in that for Democrats.

There's an opportunity now to join in what the Trump administration wants to do that makes sense for the majority, overwhelming majority, immigration reform. Democrats shouldn't sit back and fight it and cherry pick it and say what's so harsh about it. And if they come up with an immigration bill, if that's his first big move,

you should be all over it as Democrats. Join all in, all of you. Try to get as much in it as you can, but be part of the solution, not just of the problem. Do it across the board, fight your fight, but join in fixing and make your witness that the fix may have aspects to it that you disagree with and you think it would be better a different way, but you're in the business of fixing, not just opposing them. That's his game. That's their game.

And trying to play it is what beat you. The message is clear. Will you learn it? Get back to focusing on the working men and women. Get back to people's financial desperation and not just their cultural desperation. You can do both. I'm not saying not to. I'm not saying not woke, only broke. It's not just about what you're for. It's about how much and to what degree and in what ways. There is an opportunity here. Democrats lost. Trump did not win by creating some brand new coalition

that everybody in America loves. It's just not the case. Democrats underperformed because they lost the plot. They lost what matters most to voters. And again, I can't blame the polling. The polling was basically right within the margin of error in all the places. You just lost in all those places.

Where it was close, he lost. And why? Because of this. Will you learn? Blaming, blaming, blaming, going crazy about who he appoints. Look, I know Matt Gaetz is a lot to swallow. I don't mean to condemn the guy.

I don't know what's true about him and what isn't, but I mean, you know, you didn't pick Matt Gaetz because you wanted an easy process. For Trump, he wants to fuck with you. He wants to say, I reject what you're about. So how are you gonna use your energy? You're gonna go crazy on this? You're gonna exhaust yourselves.

Focus on what they do. Well, who he picks is what they do. No, what Matt Gaetz does when he gets into the DOJ and what Todd Blanch underneath him can't stop, is the way I think that dynamic will work, is what to focus on. Not the nomination itself. That's the prerogative of the guy who won. And he won. He beat your ass because you beat yourselves. You should have beaten Trump, even with the momentum of the grievance movement behind him. You should have beat him. You should have had a real primary. Biden was done.

You knew it. You would have had a ticket come out that would have beat Trump. That is my belief. And at the same time, if it wasn't Trump, if it was Nikki Haley or somebody else, I think Harris would have gotten her ass beat even worse. In fact, I don't even know that they would ever swap Biden

out for Harris. It may have been a fatal complete, you know, fatal complete, it's over already. Nothing's going to change it. Now, if you'd had a primary and went up against them, I don't know. That's too hypothetical. But if you had a ticket that earned it against Trump, I think you would have beat him. Because they would earn it by addressing the things that matter in this country. Because they would have gone around the country and you would have beat him. Because they would have earned it by addressing the things that matter in this country. Because they would have gone around the country

and you would have seen what became evident in the general in the primary. See what I'm saying? So there's a lesson here. The message is clear. You underperformed everywhere except in a couple of pockets. And look, those pockets matter, okay? The LGBTQ AI plus community matters.

They're desperate, they're scared. LGBTQAI plus community matters. They're desperate, they're scared. Women, there are a lot of them who are hurt, who scared, feel unprotected by having a right taken and people don't seem to give a shit. I get it. You should be there for them. You should support them. You should represent them, but not only them.

You don't go all in on one thing. You have to suit the needs and wants of the many. You are in the service business as Democrats and your job starts now. Don't be just defiant by default. You're playing his game and you will lose. Play your own game and you will get to a better place. There is a reason that Democrats more than hold their own in presidential races.

There is a reason that outcomes are often good under Democratic administrations. Geez, you really sound like a Democrat right now. No. Geez, you really sound like a Democrat right now. No, but if I'm stuck in this system, I need the two parties to be the best that they can be. And right now we're going in the other direction. And if I can't get more parties, and if I can't get them out of the business of controlling our process,

even on the primary level, which is crazy, if we could just get a fix on the primary level of at least like rank choice voting or something where you could get more reasonable people in at jump instead of just zealots, we'd be in a better place. But for now, what I control is what I say about what happened. And if we're going to have just these two parties and they got to be better than they are, and now is the Democrats chance to change because the Republicans aren't.

They won. They're going to do exactly what got them here. What got them here won't get them where they want to be. The Democrats can have a different outcome. You know what got you here won't get you where you want to be. How will you change? That's my take. What's yours?

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