The Chris Cuomo Project - What the Government Still Isn’t Telling Us About UAPs

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Dan Farah (director and producer, “The Age of Disclosure”) joins Chris Cuomo to explain why dozens of senior military, intelligence, and political officials are now going on the record about unidentified anomalous phenomena—and why the U.S. government has kept so much hidden for decades. Farah breaks down how his documentary brought together bipartisan voices with direct knowledge of UAP programs, what they were legally allowed to say, and why secrecy around non-human technology has persisted for more than 80 years. Cuomo and Farah examine the national security implications of unexplained craft operating near nuclear sites, the race to reverse-engineer advanced technology, and why even presidents have been kept in the dark. They also explore the stigma that has suppressed serious inquiry, the growing bipartisan push for transparency, and what meaningful disclosure could look like—without sensationalism, but with accountability. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Visit square.ca to get started. Did you know that there are answers to what's in the sky, to whether or not we are alone, to whether or not there are technologies that we don't understand that have been infiltrating our most sensitive spaces for a long time and people have known and not told you? Have you heard about the age of disclosure? Oh, you need to know what's in this documentary and what major political figures, okay, like our secretary of state, who's also the national. security advisor to the president of the United States believes you haven't been told.

I'm Chris Cuomo. Welcome to the Chris Cuomo project. Dan Farrah, okay? He is a known producer and manager, filmmaker, but he has never done anything like this. And we have never gotten the benefit of anything like this. He's got almost three dozen major players, many of whom are in elected federal office right now talking about the need for transparency and what they know and can legally tell you, and why is that even a thing? Why is there a legal restriction at all about non-human intelligence? What they have found in crafts, where those crafts have been, what they know about them, and what you don't know, and most importantly, why. And it seems like something's going to happen that I never expected.

Positive change. We're going to learn more because people in positions of leadership are realizing they've been kept out of the circle also. Now, does this have to mean little green men? Not to me. It's about transparency in a government that's supposed to be by the people, of the people, and for the people. 80 years you've been doing things with our money and our resources and our military and never. telling us anything. And in fact, you've done the opposite. You've lied again and again and again. Republican, Democrat, everything in between, lied about what you were doing with our money

and our resources that does affect our national intelligence and making choices for us that you never even discussed with us. This is huge. It's not just a documentary. It's a change moment. And it is a step in the right direction. Listen to Dan Farrah tell you what he learned and what there is still to know. Dan, congratulations on the age of disclosure. What has been the response to the film? It's been amazing. Across the board from the public on social media, people's eyes are really being open to how real and serious the situation is. And then behind the scenes, it's made a big impact in D.C. so far.

I've been getting side messages and calls from very senior senators, people involved in administration. Everyone thinks that this film is going to move disclosure forward on a very high level. The president's going to have to put something in motion in response to this, I think. So we'll see what that is. So before we get to what you care about, let's talk about what you don't care about. So for those who say, wow, Dan Farrah, Ready Player 1, the Schenarach Chronicles, you know, sort of Shinaro was very big for me as a D&D guy.

So he's gone tinfoil hat. That's weird. What do you say to them? Well, look, I think, you know, when people make jokes like tinfoil hat jokes, they're really leaning into an illogical antiquated stigma. There's no reason for a stigma around this topic. At the end of the day, the reality of it is, UAP are real. The most senior people in our government have made that very clear.

You know, our Secretary of State National Security Advisor is on camera on my film, I'm going on the record saying that we have objects that we can't explain aircraft. They're not ours. We don't know who they are. And they're penetrating our nuclear weapon sites and our military bases. And that is a problem. So to make any jokes about that scenario, is just as stupid as making jokes about terrorist threats to commercial airlines.

You know, it makes no sense. Like, it is nonsensical, it is wrong, and it's not in anyone's best interest. Did anybody tell you, oh, man, why are you doing this? There's so many other projects. Why do you want to get into that? You know, I had a lot of people actually saying to me, you know, everyone in the world is fascinated with this topic, and you're uniquely situated to get access to normal people.

can't and that if you're in position to make the definitive film on what is actually known by credible people and our government who have direct knowledge, then do it. Go do it. You know, I, like a lot of people, you know, my childhood was the 80s and early 90s. I grew up on movies like E.T. and close encounters and TV shows like X-Files. And that pop culture I grew up with made me curious about this topic, just like it made a lot of other people curious, right? You know, everyone's interest is fueled by something. And unless you, you happen to see a UFO as a kid, your interest is probably motivated by the same stuff that motivated me, pop culture, film, TV,

you know, books. And so my whole life, I've consumed all the content out there on this topic, but I always wished that someone had made a documentary that only interviewed the people who have direct knowledge of this topic as a result of working for the U.S. government. Like set the bar there at this very credible place and have those people tell us what they lawfully can share. None of these guys ever wanted to, in the past, be the one guy out on a limb, something extraordinary, even on the biggest news shows that exist, because they knew what would happen if they were out on a limb by themselves. Their reputation would be attacked, their career would be messed with, people would make the dumb tinfoil hat jokes and try to make them

look silly. And then they also had to worry about the fact that people's lives have been threatened for speaking up about this stuff. For people who really know what's going on, they're aware of the threats. So, you know, I gave them safety in numbers. I gave them a situation, where they could be arm in arm with other extremely credible people, step up in a safe way and share their truth with the American public and with the world at large. How did you do that? How did you get, I forget what is this, 34, 38, whatever.

But everybody in the piece is legit. Now, obviously, I'm a real one, right? I mean, I've been on, for me, it's all about transparency. And what I want to talk to you most is where you say what they legally could share. I am fascinated about why there's any restriction on this and we'll get deeper on that. But how did you get, you know, you have left and right sitting down trying to be reasonable about one of the third rails in politics. How did you do it?

And what was your degree of surprise that you got both sides? Well, early on, I, through long story short, I got introduced to a few senior intelligence officials who had worked on this topic early on, people like Lou Elzondo and Jay Stratton, Hal Putoff, Chris Mellon, some senior people on the Senate Intelligence Committee staff and the Senate Armed Services Committee staff who want to remain in the shadows. And I started socializing with them what I wanted to achieve and what I wanted to do. And they each introduced me to people that were involved with this topic on behalf of the U.S. government who at the time were in the shadows. And then those people, when I met with them, they would introduce many people.

It was kind of like going down a rabbit hole where one door led to another door. And I think one of the most surprising things I learned early on was how truly bipartisan. in this is. Leaders in both parties think it's the most important issue of our time. They don't hesitate to say that. They are completely aligned. And these are people who are not aligned ideologically or politically in any other way. And so that's a set of circumstances that exists. They all know how important this is. And I really felt like they all felt a weight on their shoulders about knowing things that the public should be aware of. And I, you know, you've done a million interviews.

This was a first for me. It's not only the first film I directed, but the first time I conducted interviews on camera, you know, and I'm the one sitting there talking to them. I really felt it. I felt like they were getting something off their chest. I felt like they were relieved when the interviews finished. And I felt like they all knew this was important to share what they could. And yes, there is an over-classification of this topic.

There's a lot of information that probably should not be classified, but it is. And so they were only able to share what they lawfully could. The fascinating thing about that is that, like, what is on the other side of the line? You've got to use your imagination. But if all the bombshells in this film, all this paradigm shift information that got revealed, if that can be lawfully disclosed, you know, what the hell is on the other side of that line that can't be disclosed? Why do you term it an 80-year cover-up? So the interview subjects in my film reveal that the deeply hidden crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that has been capturing, retrieving, and reverse engineering technology of non-human origin in the U.S. has been going on since Roswell.

And so that, you know, that's 80 years. They've also told me that recovery started. prior to Roswell during World War II, in fact. I don't go into that history deeply in the film, but yet, this has been going on for 80 years, and it's not only happening in our country, it's happening in adversarial nations and allied nations as well. It's happening all over the world.

And one of the things that was revealed in the film through my interview subjects and that they're all very concerned about is this high-stakes secret Cold War race we're in with adversarial nations to reverse engineer this technology. And the country they're most worried about is China, by far. And we know the intentions of China are not good.

We know that China wants to replace the United States at the, you know, top of the world order. And myself and everyone I interviewed think it's important that the U.S. lead in this technology race and put all the brainpower and resources that our country has towards this issue. Our problem is that we would rather divide ourselves than come together in this common cause. Hopefully, this film is part of a reset of what our priorities should be. You know, you also answer a question indirectly that has plagued a lot of people and this topic for years, which is, if this shit is so universal, how come we only hear about it in America and in a handful of states? And the answer to that question is, because everybody else is smart enough to show. shut up and realize how important this is. And in America, we love to play with conspiracies and

talk, you know, our heads off. And it has been happening everywhere else. It's just people were smart enough to take it seriously and keep it quiet for their own advantage. And that takes us to one of the main revelations, which is that this is a conspiracy of non-human intelligence and development. What does that phrase mean to you, non-human intelligence? So the people in my film that I interview reveal that technology of non-human origin exists. Technology that was not made by humans. Non-human intelligent life made this technology. They've also go on the record saying how some of the UAP that have crashed and been recovered had non-human bodies in them. They go on the record saying that the body types have not all been the same, meaning multiple species.

This is what my interview subject share. And so my understanding is that humanity is in a melting, you know, amongst a lot of other life out there in the galaxy that has come here and that there are multiple other species. And I think it's only a matter of time before more gets disclosed on that and what is known. but I think it's really brave of the people in my film to speak up and make it clear that technology of non-human origin has been recovered by elements of the U.S. government and private defense contractors.

And in some cases, there have been non-human bodies in those crashed vehicles. That is extraordinary, you know? Oh, 100%. It's a mind-blowing suggestion that will immediately be discounted and shot down, which is why it's so impressive that you have such a phalanx of known entities of legitimacy that are involved in the conversation. What is the chance, in your opinion, that this is about AI and not extraterrestrial,

that this is about technology that is non-human, but it's not that there is another organic, sentient being behind it? I mean, I don't personally have any reason to believe that. I do trust the people I interviewed and too many of them were aware of non-human bodies being collected at these crash sites.

The other thing everyone's got to remember when we watch this movie is the people who speak up to say these extraordinary things they're taking a lot of risk. Their reputation's on the line, their name is on the line. They all hold security clearances that they don't want pulled, you know.

none of them have any benefit to lying, right? They have a lot to lose by lying. They have a lot to lose by making false claims. And so, you know, to me, that's the greatest evidence. Because you could, Chris, you could put a 4K video of a UFO taken from a security camera on a nuclear weapons base on your show. And the reality of it is, where we are as a people is half the population will tell you it's generated by AI. or the results of some Hollywood visual effects company, right? And half will believe it.

That's crazy, you know? And so I think the most valuable evidence in this day and age is people putting their reputation and their name on the line and telling you what they know to be true. And so that's why it was so important to me to stack this film with these super credible senior people who have real knowledge and put their up on the line to share. Canada's Wonderland is bringing the Hollywood

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crafts um they in the film some of the intelligence officials who investigated this time break down the flight performance characteristics of you like the things the things we see these craft doing right right and I mean and simply put it's the way to sum it all up is simply put these craft are performing in ways that our most advanced aircraft cannot you know they they are doing things we cannot and and it ranging from you know the speed at which they travel to the fact that they are capable of transmedium travel they can go from space to the air, into the ocean, seamlessly. We do not have any aircraft that can do that, you know. They seem to defy the effects of gravity. There's a laundry list of qualities they display, performance capabilities they display, that just far surpass our most advanced technology.

And more concerning than how much more advanced they are is the fact that they are regularly penetrating our military bases, our defense capabilities, our nuclear weapons sites. I mean, Rubio is on camera saying we have these things over our most restricted classified airspace over nuclear weapons sites. And that alone, like that statement alone demands urgent inquiry, it demands urgent investigation, it demands to be taken seriously. So I think no matter how people have to look at it, whether they have to tell themselves, okay, this is an adversarial nation. It's not non-human intelligence.

That's the way I'm going to wrap my head around it, right? No matter how you got to look at it, it's an issue that has to be dealt with and has to be taken seriously. And, you know, my hope is the film completely puts the nail in the coffin of the stigma. Anyone who watches this film who has any common sense as a functioning brain knows it's not a joke. It's not a laughing matter. And it would be crazy to make fun of people for telling us the truth about it. I mean, look, you know, even if you tiptoe into it the way I have as a transparency story, you know, this, it doesn't make sense that a government that works for the people that's supposed to be by the people, spends all this money, all this time, special operators, all

kinds of sophistication, and we don't know anything about it, and they don't tell us anything about it, and they actually do what they don't do with anything else, which is deny that they're even doing what we know that they are doing. And in that context, where did your own efforts leave you? What are your big questions that you didn't have before? Well, I mean, simply put if these if the people the 34 people I interviewed if these extraordinary bombshells they reveal this this paradigm shift information they reveal if that's what they can lawfully disclose it begs the obvious question of what is on the other side of that line what is the truth that is still classified you know what do they know more about intentions has there been

contact that has informed you know where they come from what their intentions are I don't know. It obviously would make anyone who watches us extremely curious, but what's on the other side of that line. I think that what's also extraordinary is how the film ended up shining a light on systemic issues inside of the government

that exists not only on this topic, but other topics, like lack of oversight. You know, Rubio breaks down very transparently how the secret program that has been capturing and reverse engineering this stuff and dealing with, and defense contractors are involved, all of it's been kept from the public, from Congress, and even the president of the United States is on a need-to-no basis. And as he articulates, he says the problem with putting information in the hands of private contractors is that over time, the government overseers lose oversight.

You know, someone dies, retires, leaves government. The next guy knows a little bit about the program that was before him. The guy after that doesn't know anything about the program. And the guy after that doesn't even know whatever existed. But the defense contractor that's working on it, they keep moving it along. And that creates problems for basic governmental oversight. I never thought that I would reach a place where the movie Men in Black is not that crazy to me. You know, like when I watch it and it makes me think George Lucas,

This is even more of a genius that he was able to find people to help him construct what at the time was believed to be a surreality that now is technologically and even in terms of our imagination very much within reach. But the obvious question for me is after watching the film, so if they're so good in so many ways and have so many advantages, why the mystery? Why wouldn't they come down and present themselves? Why wouldn't they do really bad shit that you can't hide? You know, why are they hanging out over our nuclear and our military sites, but never doing anything to them? What do you make of that? So a big concern shared by everyone I interviewed is the UAP activity over our nuclear sites specifically.

And it's not just nuclear weapons sites. It's any site involved in the nuclear process. And this activity, this UAP activity has increased in line with our progress in harnessing nuclear energy. And the educated theory, the leading theory, is that UAP and the intelligent life controlling them are very concerned about our technological progress. And the fact that in the last 80 years, we have developed rapidly to the place where we are either in our black programs doing what they're doing, or close to doing what they're doing in terms of flight performance. And so if you put yourself in the shoes of a more advanced species, you might be concerned that humanity, a violent species that threatens nuclear war to each other,

and we invade still invading sovereign nations 80 years after World War II, we're still threatening to use nuclear weapons, 80 years after a bomb was dropped on in Japan that vaporized, you know, many lives in an instant, right? We're still a violent species despite the fact that we've developed technologically. And so there's a concern that we might be barreling towards a crossroads where a more advanced intelligent species has to contend with us in a way that they deal with us in a way that they didn't expect and don't want to.

So the monitoring of our nuclear sites is believed by many to be about the monitoring of our progress to the point where we're going to be a problem. Look, it's certainly within the realm of intellectual possibility, right? I mean, the greatest likelihood is if it's military and nuclear, it's adversaries. It's human adversaries. That's who cares about our nuclear capabilities and military capabilities. And that's who's sending things around is our enemies. And even if it's not exclusive of that, that certainly has to be part of it.

And to me, that's always been my pushback to people. It's like, if I can't give you the whole enchilada, if I can't prove that they have like, you know, two or three aliens living in a room somewhere, you know, doing a 50-year debrief, then you don't give a shit about the issue. And to me, it's like there are different levels of this. What if it's China or Iran or a private contractor working for China or Iran? And they've been successfully getting drones because we don't have the surveillance or the countermeasure ability to deal with that many drones at once that can come across and do things. That's enough of a concern that deserves transparency.

Yeah. I mean, look, some of the people in my film say that some of the UAP we're seeing, in their opinion, are non-human intelligent life technology. and then some might be the result of programs that adversarial nations have for reverse engineering that technology. And some of them might be the result of our programs to reverse engineer that technology. There's several things going on here. But certainly, if even a small percent of the UAP penetrating our nuclear weapon sites and our military bases are an adversarial nation,

it's the biggest intelligence failure in the history of the United States government by far. and it needs to be taken seriously. And, you know, both Rubio and Clapper make a really interesting point in the film. They say that throughout the history of our country, typically it takes an intelligence failure that has horrible consequences for us to act and change the way we deal with things, right? So, for example, Rubio says, you know, never in a million years would we have thought the Japanese could have hit us at Pearl Harbor with their with their torpedoes but they figured out how to do it how to get the torpedoes to the streets right and never in a million years did we think terrorists were

going to come to the United States and fly train to fly commercial airlines airplanes and then use them in a terror attack right and then they did and you know when 9-11 happened the public was outraged we all said hey our leaders need to put more resources towards counterterrorism our intelligence communities to share information better there was obviously intelligence sharing gaps there. Our response as a nation was we created the Director of National Intelligence position to create a synergy between the intelligence community, members of the intelligence community, and we threw tons of resources, money and brain power towards

counterterrorism efforts, right? And so their point was they hope that it doesn't take something bad happening regarding this topic for us to take it serious as a nation. They want to get ahead of it. They want the public and every decision maker inside of government, military, and zones community to know this is a valid area of inquiry. This is a serious national security concern. Resources need to be put towards it.

The stigma needs to be killed and information needs to be shared so that we can all collectively look out for the safety of the nation and make sure that this technology race is won by the United States and not an adversarial nation. If you would depict somebody who you believe will do the most to break the veil of, I'd like to tell you, but I can't, do you think it would be Marco Rubio, Kirsten Gillibrand, Anna Paulina Luna, Tim Burchett, or Corey Booker? Rubio, hands down. Look, I think Rubio does that in this film. He makes it clear this is serious, this is real, this needs to be. looked at differently than it is now. He's putting himself out there and he's been doing that. And he's arguably the second most powerful person in the world right now.

He's not only our Secretary of State. He's the National Security Advisor. He's been aware of the facts around this for a long time. He was vice chairman of the Senate and Telton's Committee when they started looking into this. He has been driving the conversation for a long time. And I'm glad he's in the position he is now because I, I think he's going to do the right thing and make sure that this is taken seriously. What do you think happens next?

Look, I think it's only a matter of time before we have a sitting president step to the microphone, tell the world, we're not alone in the universe, and that the U.S. intends to lead the way and put in motion plans for doing that. I think it's only a matter of time before there's a committee of sorts appointed by the president to assess the situation and what can be declassified and shared with the public, I think it's only a matter of time before a considerable amount of resources are put towards this technology race and putting some position where it no longer has to only be handled by money hidden in black projects

where it's more of an overt above-board effort. I think you can look back to the last significant technology race, the space race, how did that work for us? You know, Kennedy stepped to the microphone and gave a big passionate speech saying that, you know, the U.S. intends to lead the way and to win that race, and he likens it to the nuclear race in that speech. He says, like nuclear technology, space technology, has no conscious of its own. It's up to man, whether they use it for good or bad, and that is why it's imperative

the U.S. lead the way so it can play a role in deciding how that technology is used and hopefully for the betterment of mankind. Same kind of thing. What would be an acceptable justification for failing to tell the American people, we are not alone? It's probably the number one most pursued existential question in human existence. What would be an acceptable explanation for having the answer? to that question and not giving it to the American people.

Look, you know, some of the people in my film, well, to quote Chris Mell, and he says in the film, you know, Chris Mell was a former defense department official. He says, you know, it's important to remember that there might be something so dark and disturbing that there's a rationale for it not being shared with the public. That, look, anything's possible. Obviously. But I think the base fact, the fact that we're not alone in the universe, I think the American public can handle this at this point. I don't think the average person's going to lose their mind and start, you know, jumping out of windows because they found out there's other intelligent life. I think, I think at this point, we've evolved to a place where the average person would probably be inspired by that and probably think, oh, wow, there's, you know, that's a humbling realization. There's more, there's more than us out there, you know.

they've evolved and they figured out how to have technology more advanced than us. Maybe if we play our cards right, we could benefit from that. I think it would be, if it isn't already, the biggest violation of our sovereignty that has ever been perpetrated on the American people. If it is the case that there has been a basis of understanding for a day, let alone a decade, let alone almost a century, that the answer to the question of whether or not we are alone, from a metaphysical, existential perspective, is, no, we are not alone. And we know that as a matter of fact. I think that alone, I think one of the hard things, because the easy conclusion is I'm going to be the guy. When I become president, I'm coming right out. We can't even get these guys to put out the Kennedy files, okay? We can't even get them to put out the Epstein files,

let alone the Kennedy files. There is an institutional bias that goes way beyond any juvenile notion of the deep state as articulated by pod bros. There is too big a price sometimes, too big a burden of being the one to say something, even if you had nothing to do with it, even if you had nothing to do with it, just to say, look, turns out the CIA knew that Kennedy was going to get hit, kind of let it happen. even if you have nothing to do with that you weren't even alive at the time they don't want to do it so why would they ever want to own this i think there's just too much at stake at this point you know i think the people who have found out the truth about this like rubio they know that this

needs to become a major national priority we need to put all the resources we possibly can towards this we need to put all the brain power of our nation towards it and it's impossible to do that if the average person doesn't know it's real and so those base facts need need to come out here's the other thing you got you got to remember there's there's been it's not as simple as a president you know saying hey how come the president hasn't you know told us the truth yet presidents are still trying to find out even our current president are trying to find out all the answers to these questions because they've been kept in the dark rupe One of the big moments in the film is Rubio goes on a record, and he says, I think a lot, this is almost word for word.

He says, he says, I think a lot of people think the president can go in the Oval Office on the first day and say, take me to Roswell, show me the bodies, open the whole thing up. And then he says, I think that is a naive understanding of how our government works. He doesn't say, I think that's a naive understanding of what exists and what information there is. He says, I think that's a naive understanding of how our government works. And then he follows it by saying that even presidents have been kept on a need-to-know basis about this topic and that it is the career bureaucrats, many levels beneath them, inside of various agencies and branches of the military and at defense contractors who keep this information and essentially just wait them out. You know, they see these people come and go, presidents, White House Security Council members, national security advisors, senators, they come and go. And so their attitude is I have no reason to sort of like share this information up the, up the chain of command, and I'll just wait them out. And that has ramped at it, to quote Rubio again, that has ramped out of control.

And I do think that President Trump is making the most focused effort at learning all the information that has been kept from sitting presidents. I think he is all over it right now. That is a sad commentary because their level of transparency hasn't even eclipsed what we got from the Biden administration yet. Now, he does have a couple of his people as an advantage. You know, I don't remember anybody trying to own this politically. You now have multiple Republicans that talk about it on a regular basis. That's good.

Do you believe that Secretary Rubio believes that the American government has proof of non-human life. I'll let Rubio speak for himself. You know, he really went to great lengths in the film to say what he was comfortable saying on the record. He does not go there. I don't want to give it away. People have to hear it and they'll assess it for themselves because they can come away with a different impression, which you are suggesting right now. I think that he is more aware of the reality of the situation than anyone inside of the administration

right now. That's what I think. And I think, you know, people remember, there's only been one time in the history of our country where the Secretary of State and the National Security Advisor have been the same person. It was Henry Kissinger for two years. Yeah. It's a very rare set of circumstances. It gives one person an incredible

amount of access to information and an incredible amount of power. And I personally am relieved to know that someone who takes this issue as seriously as Rubio does is in that position of power. I feel like we're lucky that he's in that situation right now. You know, it's interesting. We've never had, well, that's not true. I can't say never.

Rubio is on the junior level of the scale of people who have been NSA or secretary of state. You know, I mean, he's still relatively a young guy. I mean, he was a senator for, what, 14 years or so? I mean, you know, a couple, a couple of terms plus. But, you know, not a military guy, not a law enforcement guy, not an intelligence world guy. And now he is in the poll position on what matters to American national security as it affects not only our own domestic operations, but really, as Secretary of State, what we communicate and articulate abroad. Yeah.

And look, one of the powerful moments in the film when speaking about the technology race regarding UAP technology, the technology race formed with adversarial nations, he essentially says that if, you know, it's important we get our act together as a nation, because, to quote him, he says, because otherwise, we'll wake up one day and we'll find out that China got there before we did. And we won't know how they did it or when they did it, but we will be screwed. Those are exact words out of his mouth. And being the person doing the interview, sitting a few feet from him, I could feel how concerned he was about that, you know? And so I think it's imperative as he says that we put all the resources we can towards this. We put all the brain power

we can towards this. We've got to get the scientific community and academia realizing that this is a valid area of inquiry, that they should be putting their brain power towards this. You know, he talked in the interview, I didn't put this in the film, but he talked about the space race and how this single space race ended up leading to something like 35,000 other inventions that we use daily in the United States that impact our way of life. And he makes the point of we don't know what's going to come out of taking this more seriously. It, you know, we might be pursuing it at first for national security reasons, but then we might end up, you know, making a breakthrough that wildly impacts our lives for the better in some other way. I mean, the scientist that I interviewed in my film who worked on classified UAP programs, they believe that this technology holds the solutions to the energy crisis.

They believe this technology can lead to interstellar travel to breakthroughs that were the stuff of science fiction just a few years ago. could change the trajectory of our species if we take it more seriously. Rubio also talked in the interview about how he hopes that sharing these basic truths inspires young people to want to get into, you know, engineering and science and pursue those kind of careers because there's a, there's a whole other lifetime of, you know, scientific research and breakthroughs to do based on what we're learning now. How did this change you? It made me realize that.

It made me realize how much is known by our government that is not shared with the public. It was extremely eye-opening that secrets on this level could be kept from the public. You know, your average person, I think, assumes the same as I did a lot of my life, which is there's no way, you know, the government could keep something like this truly secret if it was real. right? It's hard to believe, but secrets can be kept. And it makes you wonder what other secrets having kept. And Rubio says, in the interview I do with him, I don't think this isn't, yeah, it's not in the film. But he says, he says, look, we found out in the 70s that the intelligence community had programs to assassinate foreign leaders, you know? And that's why the intelligence committee was created, right? Like, we've, history has shown that the American people keep finding out about this, about secrets that the government keeps from it. And, and I, and, and, and, and, I, and, and, and, and, That, to me, is really shocking to the extent to which that is true. At Capital One, we're more than just a credit card company. We're people just like you who believe in the power of yes.

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So now what? Now Dan Farah has answers, but a whole new crop of questions, a growing sense of urgency and expanding expectations. Do we get age of disclosure too? Do we get a series about it? What do we get? What do we get? You know, a lot of people have been asking me that the last few days.

Look, I do think I might end up doing age disclosure part two. We'll see. I'm very curious what the government reaction, official reaction, is going to be in the coming months to this film. I do know that leaders in our government are actively huddling right now. Well, they can't piss on it. There are too many people involved. Yeah.

I mean, you know, MAGA's not going after Rubio, right? I mean, that's not going to happen. And Annapolina Luna and Birchitt, I have them both on. They're both very popular within the Maga Caucus. They're awesome. So you're not going to go after them. They'll amend the issue. You know, I mean, I guess the Democrats could get up on it, but do they really want to?

Do they really want to call everybody who sees what's in the air and say, you guys are nuts? You believe in aliens? You whack jobs? I don't think so. Well, you know, the average person doesn't know that Senator Schumer and Jillabrand from New York and Senator Rounds from South Dakota co-sponsored an historic bipartisan piece of legislation called the UAP Disclosure Act. And they are actively fighting right now to get that into the National Defense Authorization Act,

which the president typically signs right before Christmas. And they have full support in the Senate. They are trying to get full support in the House. Last year they tried to push this forward as well, and they got full support in the Senate, but they got blocked in the house. Now, the individual who blocked them in the house has gone and no longer in position to do that. And I was told as of this morning

that it seems like the film has helped rally the support they need in the house. And we'll find out soon if they're going to get it in to back into the National Defense Authorization Act. And I think there's a really good panic. Timing's also on your side because of Epstein. We're in hyper-transparency mode, right? now, which is everybody wants to see everything. I think with Epstein, people are going to be unsatisfied, let alone with this, because there's actually a real culture of secrecy and

non-disclosure around this, whereas Epstein is just a boogeyman. But this is real. And there have been two generations of people who've had careers based on understanding the extent of contact and technological exploration and what that means for other countries and for us. So where does it leave us in terms of where do we take the conversation? What do you want to happen next? If it's chasing after Chuck's bill, it may happen, but I don't think it'll be the game changer we would want it to be from a transparency perspective, not least of which is because Schumer's attached to it.

He's just such a naked opportunist that he's not going to get in enough buy-in from both sides well what i hope to have happened at base level is i hope the average person watches this film realizes how serious and real this situation is goes and tells their friends and family to watch it and you get this sort of you know wildfire realization which just spreads across our our society where everyone realizes is how real and seriousness is the stigma you know ends once and for all and people make their voices heard you know social media gives everyone this great platform you can reach out to your elected representatives you could tweet out to you know or put messages on Facebook to the president of the United States and there's a good chance you could see it you know like make your voices heard let your elected leaders know that this is something the people want taken seriously and we want more transparency and I think that if the public makes enough noise and the media makes enough noise which thank God they are right now we will we will see change I think at the end of the day, our representatives have to react to what the public is demanding.

If you were in an alleyway and you had to fight either Tim Burchett or Anna Paulina Luna to get out of that alleyway, which one would you choose to fight? I love both of them. They both have my back and they're both. They are both going to kill you in my hypothetical. The question is, which one do you think you would have a better chance of getting out of the. alleyway against? I can't answer that. I think they're both amazing. They've been super supportive. And the two of them and Congressman Carson from the Democratic Party helped me organize a secret private screening for senior members of Congress that we held in the Capitol, in a private room, and several of the people from my film came, and we did a long private talk after that. And they're taking this incredibly seriously. And they're using it to help rally support in the

House and the Senate for taking this more seriously and to put pressure on the administration to step up. They're really doing great things behind the scenes. And other House members who are doing that, it's Congressman Carson, it's Congressman Burleson, Moskowitz from Florida, Democrat. Jared. They're all taking it really serious behind the scene. Yeah, they should because even if you believe nothing, the lack of disclosure is unacceptable. there's been too much money spent on this for you to wipe it away as well it's a national security. It can't be a national security issue when you say it's a nothing burger. It can't be both. So I think you are telling the right story at the right time and in my opinion for the right

reasons. But you're a big fat liar because we both know you would fight Birchett. We both know that you know Annapolina Luna is going to do something nasty. right off the bat with her hands raised, say, look, I just want to talk. And then she's going to cut you right across. Something like that's going to happen. No way you're going birch it, 100 to zero. We both know it.

All right? You don't have to answer, but I know that's the answer. You're too smart to see it any other way. That's funny. Can I tell you one other thing, Chris? You know, it's something else that I expect to see happen out of all this. And Rubio touches on this in the film. the people who have been involved in covering this up for 80 years

these people aren't villains right they're not villains in a comic book story there are people who were doing a job that they were told to do right and ultimately they weren't the decision makers who put all this in motion 80 years ago you know many of the people working on security for these programs and covering it up and spreading the stigma and the disinformation they weren't even they weren't even alive when all this started right there are people doing a job They're going home to their families.

They have mortgages to pay. They have food to put on the table. You know, and so I think part of getting the truth out there is understanding those circumstances. And most likely what it's going to require to get those people to speak up and come out of shadows is some form of forgiveness, some form of saying, hey, you know, this isn't, as Rubio says in the film, this is not, this is a quote. Rubio says, this is not an endeavor to go out and punish any.

one, but we need to know what they learned. Taxpayers paid for this. That's literally what he says on screen. And I think he's saying that because he's come to the realization that is that that is the only way forward for these people to speak up. No one's going to risk, you know, speaking up and going to jail or or having their reputation ruin because they're telling you what they've been involved with, you know. And so I think we've all got to, you know, quickly get to the, point of realizing there needs to be some sort of arrangement made, some sort of real protections given to those people so that they can comfortably step up and share like the base facts. You know, those people involved in covering this up can step up and say, hey, yes, I've been a part

of this effort to cover this up. Here's why. Here's what we learn. Here's what we know. Here's what we don't know. That needs to happen. And I think it was really wise of Rubio to make it clear that this is not an effort to punish anyone, but we need to learn what they have learned. I think that is well said,

both by the secretary and by the director. And I wish you all good things with this. I appreciate the efforts and the progress towards getting what the American people should demand, which is the government works for you. It's your money, it's your resources, and it's you're right to know something about how it's all being spent. So I'm here for it. Whenever I can help, whatever you develop as a next, I'm here for it. Just let me know, Dan. And I wish you much, much success with the age of disclosure. Thank you. And thank you for not only shining a light on this film, but on the issues it reveals, you know, for too long legacy media has not paid attention to it. And you really have. So thank you for doing that.

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