The Chris Cuomo Project - What the World Is Getting Wrong About the Iran War

Episode Date: March 12, 2026

Chris Cuomo reports from Israel as the war with Iran continues to escalate, offering a perspective that looks very different from the debate happening back in the United States. Cuomo explains why Am...ericans are viewing the conflict primarily through politics and media narratives, while people in the region see it as an existential fight playing out in real time. He breaks down the competing motivations behind the war — from security fears and regional power struggles to domestic political optics in Washington. At the center of the debate is a question rarely asked in American coverage: who actually decides when this war ends? Cuomo examines the strategic calculations driving Israel, the messaging coming from the Trump administration, and how perception, politics, and power are shaping the conflict. Join The Chris Cuomo Project on YouTube for ad-free episodes, early releases, exclusive access to Chris, and more: https://www.youtube.com/@chriscuomo/join Make today a good day, and get yourself some Soul gummies. Right now, Soul is offering my audience 30% off your entire order! Go to GetSoul.com and use the code CUOMO. That’s GetSoul.com, promo code CUOMO for 30% off. Reverse hair loss with  @iRestoreLaser  and get exclusive savings on the iRestore Elite, use code CUOMO at irestore.com/cuomo! #irestorepod Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:43 you do not see this war the way it is seen in the Middle East, not politically, not psychologically, and most importantly, not practically. Why is that? Well, the proposition in America is this, Are we at mission accomplished? Did this another win? Or is it here we go again?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Down the road of mission creep and the inexorable march of Islamism versus what Pete Egsteth is calling Christendom, but what we call freedom, right? And what is it here? Who gets to say when it ends? Who gets to say when it ends? One of those perspectives is not just about the exesies. of the emergency, right? That is it is existential here.
Starting point is 00:02:32 They can all reach out and touch each other here, right? Whereas in America, it is mostly a political football. And it's about projections of what matters in mission and purpose. The mixed messaging that we're getting from the administration has multiple purposes. One, there's a competency issue. Two, there's a cleverness to it. How much? Not that much. Okay? I'm not listing it first for a reason and I don't even know that it's second to be true. And the third is about the politics of optics and looking strong and President Trump being able to do something, get something done that is securing another promise of MAGA. Wait, what? How is this securing a promise of MAGA?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Ah, I'm glad you asked because in that discussion is both what is wrong and what is right in this situation. winds up owning that winds up owning the value of this in the midterms i'm chris quomo welcome to the chris quomo podcast i thank you very much joining us on the chris quomo project which is really what it's called but i'm just another podcast right and i'm trying to give you perspective and here's mine um why are we here oh that's deep chris did you get that from the homeland no the holy land has influenced me and I am doing a special on the death and resurrection. But it is not a metaphysical question. It is what put us in Iran.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Now, avoid single factor answers. We're here because Trump thinks it looks good. I don't think we're here because it's an emergency. They didn't even really argue that. That, well, they were about to hit us. Some people say, well, you weren't complaining when Bush did it. Well, that's because we had just gotten the biggest domestic punch the nose that we have ever had. There were a lot of dead people and we were scared. Where is that
Starting point is 00:04:37 in this context? Oh yeah, but it was going to happen. No, no, no. You're not arguing that and you're not arguing it well. So what can you argue? Regime bad. Regime bad. Attack regime good. Regime bad. So what if I think the regime's bad, but I don't think the attack is good? Ah, So you don't have an answer for the regime. You're just going to let the regime festered. Wait, who's saying it's festering? Oh, I am, because I know that it's festering. They're building all these missiles in there, enriching uranium,
Starting point is 00:05:07 or they're having enough industrial grade and this and that. Oh, can you show that to me? No, no, no, no. No, that's not how it works. You got to trust me, though. And the Israelis say, well, the Israelis and the Americans. I mean, you know, it can't get better than that. That's like a gold standard, right?
Starting point is 00:05:22 And being facetious, right? Why? Because I think that you have two players here, who know how to play to advantage and to show what they want reality to be seen as, to shape perception, because politics is often perception. Reality is often perception. Politics is often perspective. Perception fuels perspective. Okay? There you go. The lesson is free. It's worth what you could what it costs. So here's why we're there. Trump believes it makes him look strong.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Trump believes it's doing something that others couldn't do. Trump believes it's keeping us safe and will be sold that way. Why? Because isn't our election choosing up to be what it is often about, which is who's keeping you safe? Yeah, but not on a terrorism level. No, no, no, no, no. Security, security. Islamism is a danger to us.
Starting point is 00:06:16 And these guys, if they're not the head on the snake, they're definitely one of the first coils. So I'm keeping you safe. and that's about security, and that's about leadership, and that's about what you're supposed to get out of government. So this is a proxy for the affordability case, because that's about allowing you to secure in a different context that probably matters just as much as the idea of whether we're safe from terror.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I mean, that's not an everyday fear. And everyday fear is what? Cost of living. So let me substitute this for that. I'd rather be talking about this. Why? Because I know I'm doing the right thing. I'm trying to beat the bad guy.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Well, but war is wrong. Yeah, depends on when. Yeah, but we've done this before, and it's never worked. It was never me. Yeah, but we've seen it over. Now, Iran is different. Well, but then you've got to get rid of the regime.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Nah. The people have to rise up and do it for themselves. So you're attacking them, even though there was no imminent threat, but there was a serious threat that you can't prove to us, but we should believe you, And this is the same kind of threat that you told us six, seven months ago you had obliterated.
Starting point is 00:07:32 See, now you're just being, see, now you're just playing gotcha. Okay? Because the regime is bad and somebody had to do this and they weren't going to make a deal. They're a bunch of liars. Okay. And why didn't you do it the first time? Why didn't you do it the first time? Were they better then?
Starting point is 00:07:50 They were better then, huh? They were keeping their word then, really? You see what I'm saying? He didn't need it the first time. He had the immigration argument. You know, he wasn't fucking with Islam. It was Islam hates us. Let me try to ban travel from every Muslim country.
Starting point is 00:08:05 Let me just throw all billion and a half of them in the same bucket as all potential terrorists. And that works too. And he didn't need it. Now he needs it. Why? Because the domestic agenda, the Fix America First, that he promised you ain't happen. And so good is it? Now he's really got a.
Starting point is 00:08:25 a harder case. He just made it harder. That's why the energy secretary come out and say something that was never true and will never be. That I, as the American government, can control your gas prices. Influence a little bit? Yeah, but not this kind of move. Yeah, but it's only short term. You've got to surrender the meat of the weed. We're safer now. This is for long-term gain. Oh, just like the tariffs. Just like tariffs. Isn't that interesting? So you crucify your for everything not happening the second it's necessary, but you get the benefit of the long-term wait and see. Isn't that convenient?
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Starting point is 00:11:50 If any other scenario arises after I think I made it better, I lose. So I don't say I want regime change. Why? That's too hard. Oh, what's easy? Beating them up from above and making it look like I removed the threat. And I got to do it myself because I didn't need pesky Congress. So I'm the man. I kept you safe.
Starting point is 00:12:13 I'm strong. Everybody else is weak. We win. Short-term suffering, long-term gain. that's how life works. Everybody understands that. That is the play here. What's the problem with the play?
Starting point is 00:12:28 Who gets to say when it's over? The people in this part of the world have the right perspective. Who says Iran says it's over now? Oh, because we're kicking their ass. Are you kicking the ass of someone who wants to die? Are you kicking the ass of somebody who wants to bleed? Now, I would say the argument, the first one I made is much weaker than the second. I don't think that they want to die.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Some of them will as martyrs. Why? Because they want eternal life and all the benefits that they foolishly think come along with it. But the second question, oh, you think that I lose if you beat the shit out of me? No, because you don't get to say what I'm beaten. Only I do. If you're not replacing me with something else, then the suffering. is actually like when they strike down Obi-Wan Kenobi.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And if you're too old for that, I'll give you another kitsy film. In Fight Club, why does the alter ego want to get his ass kicked? Why is that so important for him to show that he can take a beating? Because he's the underdog, because the struggle is the win. That's what these zealots believe. They're in it for the long game. You can kill me for a thousand years. but eventually you'll be gone,
Starting point is 00:13:52 and they're multiplying and multiplying and multiplying. So it's looking pretty good from their perspective. And the regime in Iran, they want the suffering. First of all, life is cheap for them. They don't care if their people suffer. They're in the business of making their people suffer. They want to be martyrs. Get you those virgins.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Get you that prestige to make a big poster of your face and put it up in your town, like you were an all-star. That's what they're coming from. You're not seeing it. Here, dead soldiers were like, oh, no, I can't believe this is happening again. I can't believe they kill them. It's so unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:14:33 In the zealots mind, it's, oh, wow, what a sacrifice. Wow, what an amazing thing. That's scary. I remember this because I'm old. And I lived this the first time. I saw the movie the first time. And when we went in there and realized, oh, wow, they're okay with a one-for-one exchange.
Starting point is 00:14:57 That ain't the American way. We're into we kill 50. You kill two, if you're lucky. Okay? They're not into that. They're into one-for-one. It's great. They don't see it the way we do.
Starting point is 00:15:11 And in the region, they get it. They get it. That's why the IDF is so brutal. That's why Hamas was so brutal on October 7th. And look, I'm not comparing the two. Why? Because that's just a football. That's just a football.
Starting point is 00:15:30 There's no coincidence that you almost can't find people who are okay with Hamas, who didn't vote against Trump. And you can't find that many people anymore who voted against Trump who think that Israel has a complete right to defend itself. I mean, that's where we are. Why? Because everything's advantage over the other side. And if some one side is for one thing, you've got to be for the other.
Starting point is 00:15:58 So we have this rising support of fundamentalist ideologies in our country. Of course, they're going to suppress the report on the increase in domestic terror threats. But did you need a report to tell you that? That there's an increase in domestic threats of terror? Really? Austin, New York City, common sense? You don't think that we see this kind of cooperation of different outrages now? You know, this is not just the Islamists who do this, where, yeah, you may be Sunni and I may be Shia and I want to kill you, but, or really, you want to kill me, but on this
Starting point is 00:16:39 one, we're together. The enemy of your enemy might be your friend sometimes. That's not what this is. This is, the enemy of my enemy may be a common enemy. And if it is, then it's my enemy too. And then I can start fighting with, stop fighting with him and fight with someone who benefits both of us. We can then start fighting with them. And that's us. That's freedom. That's freedom of choice.
Starting point is 00:16:59 That's self-determination. That's free will. They don't want any of those things. They want to control it like a bunch of savages. Primitive, really. These zealots, these extreme Islamists, they're in the way back machine. So in the region they get it, in the region they get it, in the region they get that there is no win. It's all about just who gets to determine when this part is over.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So now, you say, oh, yeah, and America gets to say when it's over. You just heard the president say it. Well, and then you heard the Secretary of War once again suggest something different afterwards. Oh, but that's because they're playing a little bait and switch because they don't want the enemy to know and they want to be confusing and they want to own the media. I think that's all bullshit. And if you flip the R and the D, you feel totally differently about it on the basis of who's doing it. And that is why the system is as big an enemy as of extreme Islamism as far as I'm concerned. The two-party system is as big a threat to me as extreme Islamism.
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Starting point is 00:19:43 And now you have people on the left who are not wrong to question what was the guiding philosophy here? What's the strategy? What's the exit? And look, you could say, well, you didn't do that when you did blah blah blah. Yeah, I know. But why are we so fucking comfortable constantly explaining or rationalizing a bad argument by the fact that bad arguments have been made in the past? Why is that okay? Seriously. Who is going to be about better? And there's opportunity for that in this. Why? Well, the simple play for the left is to say you're a warmonger and you're getting run around by the nose by the IDF. That doesn't work for me. Why? Because I really don't believe that's how this went down. I think that this was the United States looking for a win. And I don't know why they thought this was one.
Starting point is 00:20:41 the Trump administration that this would be a layup, which they obviously think, but that it had to be done. I might as well did it. It's a dirty job. Somebody's got to do it. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I think that the IDF was like, great. When they said to them, we got to go. These negotiations aren't happening. Let's go. I think they were like, great, because they're desperate to eradicate them because they want to be able to say, who says it's over. Okay, the IDF is in all day for that fight of controlling their own fate against their enemies militarily all day. I do not think it works as well for America. I don't think it's as direct a threat.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I don't think it's as direct to benefit. I do not. I do not. And I think that Israel, although it gets hit plenty, even from insiders, which is why, you know, there's a little bit of an asterisk to the, what do you mean they're anti-Arab? 40% of Israel is Arab and a lot of them are citizens. Okay. Let's look a little deeper into that.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, ish. Why? Because a lot of the Arabs in the country are not citizens. Okay. And even those who are not allowed to serve in the military. They have to volunteer. They've got to ask to, and often the military will turn them down. Why?
Starting point is 00:22:08 Because they don't trust them. So I'm not saying that that's justified or unjustified, but it is kind of fucked up just from a straight egalitarian perspective. So you're a citizen with equal rights and you can vote, but you can't serve the military. Well, yeah, and it's not as simple, but there's a reason because a lot of the same side attacks and sabotage happened that way. That's why we don't allow it. I'm not saying there's not a basis for it. I'm just saying there's something fucked up about that as a reality. But given that imbalance, the Israelis would much rather use the military to control their fate.
Starting point is 00:22:48 And then Hezbollah did them a favor also. They made a deal a year ago to disarm America's in the region on the ground in Lebanon as a liaison to help the government in Lebanon remove Hezbollah as the driving force and to allow the LAF, the Lebanese armed forces, to take over the role of defense that Hezbollah has. And they just broke it 48 hours after the Iran attack because Iran is a proxy-driven aggressor. And this is what they do. And so they broke the deal and started attacking and gave Israel an excuse to beat their ass. and they actually went into Lebanon,
Starting point is 00:23:33 and they are now raising holy hell against them. And vice versa, to the extent they can, sending in hundreds of rockets into Israel. And they started it. No, they didn't. They started when they went against Iran. Okay. But who gets to say when it's over?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Israel's in a much better situation on that level than America is. Why? Because America doesn't have the same risk profile that Israel does. There are bombs going off here all the time. I'm cutting chicken. There are bombs going off here. People are walking into bomb shelters and they're shooting the shit
Starting point is 00:24:10 and working on their phones and just waiting to go on about their day. That ain't happening in America. If we were getting bombed on a regular basis, literally a daily basis right now, you wouldn't just be going on about your day. Now, eventually you would. Eventually you would because you conditioned yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:28 But that's not where our risk tolerance, is our risk appetite is right now. Austin, what we saw in New York City, now we ain't going to take a lot more of those. Now, I think we are, by the way. And, you know what, I do not want to be right about this. I want to be wrong, okay? And I'm not, and I told you so, guy,
Starting point is 00:24:45 because it's stupid and I'm wrong plenty. But I told you what was old was going to be new again with domestic terror, right? Why did I know that? Because the way the president was Tying it up with them would be pissing them off. And the stuff with Israel and Gaza was going to be pissing them off. And this is how the zealots express themselves is terrorism. Why? Because that is the mechanism of the powerless. And that's how they get power. So we're seeing this in America
Starting point is 00:25:21 as regime bad, so war good. No, because you're not even going to remove the regime. See? So, What was this about? Yeah, but I reduced their threat. Prove it. Because you told me you obliterated it. And now you had to remove it again, a few months later. And I should have asked you this. Shame on me.
Starting point is 00:25:44 The first time, prove what you reduced in how. Prove it. Prove how the regime is less powerful. Prove that the regime is different. Well, we'll hit him again if they're not. And if they touch anybody in the straight of Hormuz, yeah, again, you're dealing with a bunch of more. murders. Why do you think they said we don't see any room for negotiation right now? Even Hamas
Starting point is 00:26:06 never says that. When Hamas was getting the ship beat out of him, what do they say? Let's talk, let's talk. Right? And then they break their word and they attack you again, right? They're punk-ass terrorists. Well, what's Iran saying? No, we don't want to negotiate. Well, how close are they to death or extinction if they're saying they don't want to negotiate? Or is this a reminder that they could be very close to extinction, but they're martyrs. They're martyrs. They're the guy who gets up all bloody. I haven't even started to fight yet. Try it again. You got lucky with the first 5,500. That's where, that's who they are. You have to kill me. You know that's who they are. You know that's who they are. You know that's all they are. So how does it
Starting point is 00:27:00 makes sense that you are going to come in and kick the hornet's nest and then not think anything comes along with it. Yeah, but no, I was on balance. It was fine. And whatever comes with it is short-term. Who? What? How do we know? The idea that who gets to say when it's over? They're going to do things that reverberate back home and not just the economic stuff. That's not them. That's Trump. right? I mean, that's this choice structure that caused that. And the idea that, well, now he's going to secure all the... Who's he? Who is Trump, Inc? You think the president has that power of the purse strings? Oh, yeah, in this situation, he... I've never heard of that before. We're going to ensure everybody's commerce in a ridiculously high-risk situation. Really?
Starting point is 00:27:56 And I know you can give me an answer of why there's an upside to that, but why... Why should we have to do that? Why did we have to create the situation? Well, we are where we are now. So there's no accountability for how we got here. You see what I'm saying? Oh, you're being too negative. You just got TDS.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Really? And if a Democrat did it, you wouldn't criticize it. Oh, so you're only criticizing it because he's a Republican? No, I'd criticize it if it were anybody. Why? Because two things can be true at the same time. The regime is bad, and this isn't going to end the badness. Oh, yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:28:30 prove it. Prove it, yellow cake, boys. You ran on negating the past and saying that it was always done wrong. And if you elect me, you're not going to have a war with Iran. There'll be no war. No war. Not if I win.
Starting point is 00:28:48 No. No. Remember that? I'm not a patsy. I'm not a patsy. I'm not a pawn. You're a pawn. Where are we now? Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:29:02 This is different. Really? How do you know? Oh, you know, because we're not putting boots on the ground. Is that what he said? Why, it would be strategic. Oh, really? Does that sound familiar? Are you older than 26? Really? Do you read history at all? Okay. Go back and look what we were told in 2003. Go ahead. Go take a look. Not the first bombings that we did, but once we really start getting in there deep, you know, it's strategic. Surge. Remember the word surge? What was surge? Serge was more. If we do more, it would be better. Yeah, real good. Remember how it all ended? Different administrations, same ineptitude. Why? Who gets to say when it's over? See, that's what they get in the region. Who gets to say when it's over? Israel says, I do where I'm concerned, and I will kick your ass, and I will have Zero fucks, because my people may be closely divided on it, but ultimately, we all know it's also them.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Is that where we are? I don't know. I don't know that. If you look at poll numbers, everything is so skewed by partisan preference here. It's so hard for people to go against their side that when you have any kind of imbalance, I assume it's much greater than that. But look, you do have a counter-narrative. So much of MAGA says they support what's happening right now. How? When this was the opposite of what you were promised? How? This is exactly what you were against.
Starting point is 00:30:47 This is exactly what you called out. Rightly or wrongly. And by the way, I didn't love your argument. I think that you're a little too hardcore when it comes to you can stay out of things. But that's who you were. And now the guy you voted for on that basis is doing more abroad than like everybody else in modern history together. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, modern history. You don't mean? Like, you know, in the last 25, 30 years, let's say. No, Bush. But not in as many different scenarios. We got attacked on 9-11. How can you forget that part of it?
Starting point is 00:31:24 So, you don't get how it is gotten over here. And that really matters. Why? In terms of how you process what they want, of course the Iranian people want you to stay and take out the regime and help them and support them. Why wouldn't they? Why wouldn't they? It's the sketchy part is the president's saying, yeah, I know, you're going to have to fight for yourself. You're going to have to do it yourself. Well, but then why did you come in here and start doing this? Why did you tell that the help's on the way? Well, this is help. We're weakening in the regime, but not enough for them to take it over. And by the way, it was going to to pay the wages of the vengeance. You don't think the Iranian people are going to be punished
Starting point is 00:32:06 for celebrating this and wanting this? Really? You know, that's a very optimistic view. How you see the war matters. And if your frame of reference is just regime bad so that anything you do to get rid of it is good. Or if you question anything that's going on to get rid of it, then you like the regime. You don't get it. This is binary. bullshit thinking because that's what we're stuck in because that is the game. Change the game. Don't let the game change you. See the stakes differently. Who gets to say when it's over? You think that America's just going to walk away? And that Iran's not going to keep doing things. You call on others to do it? Hell, do you see that
Starting point is 00:32:52 tweet from Sean King? I was scared. I'm going to reach out to him and ask him exactly, what are you talking about, man? Because it sounds like you're saying, all Muslims need to come together and fight against the people who are attacking you. That sounds like me. That sounds like the people in his country. And I know he's a Muslim, but he's an American too, right? I mean, I get it. I mean, a lot of people are faith first.
Starting point is 00:33:13 I'm not judging any of it. I'm trying to understand it. I mean, it was a really, really aggressive suggestion. But that's for him to answer and for you to look at and figure out what it means. My last point is change how you. you see what this proposition is. It's not as simple as the binary because the binary is designed for what? The two sides. And this has got to be about what your strategy is that allows you to be the one to say when it's over. And that's not what I see with the administration. That's why you have all
Starting point is 00:33:50 the misdirection. That's why you have the layered messaging. That's why you have the moving of the goalposts. That's why you have now shifting back to the economic agenda. Why? It's about take the win and get out. Change the story. Keep going. Keep distracting. You say what the facts are and you change the facts to fit the narrative and you keep going. Everything else is fake news. See the game. Realize that the way the Middle East sees it is not the way we're seeing it back home. And the difference of perspective makes all the difference.
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