The Chris Cuomo Project - Why Democrats Are Handing Trump a WIN in DC

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

Chris Cuomo takes on Trump’s move to declare an emergency in Washington, D.C., arguing that Democrats risk losing ground when they appear to dismiss real problems like crime, affordability, and immigration simply because they oppose Trump’s solutions. Cuomo stresses that ignoring grievances only alienates the majority of voters. He unpacks why tariffs, crime policy, and even debates over cultural issues like gender and gerrymandering will shape the midterms — and why Democrats must focus on offering better remedies instead of negating the problems. Cuomo’s message: don’t fight Trump by denying the issue, fight him by presenting smarter solutions that connect with the majority. Follow and subscribe to The Chris Cuomo Project on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube for new episodes every Tuesday and Thursday: https://linktr.ee/cuomoproject Join Chris Ad-Free On Substack: http://thechriscuomoproject.substack.com Support our sponsors: Call American Financing today to find out how customers are saving an avg of $800/mo. 866-889-4244 or visit http://www.AmericanFinancing.net/Cuomo. NMLS 182334, nmlsconsumeraccess.org Take your personal data back with Incogni! Use code cuomo at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/cuomo Go to http://shopbeam.com/cuomo and use code CUOMO at checkout for up to 40% off. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Welcome to the Chris Cuomo Project. This is the simplest way I can put it for you. The mistake is questioning. the problem instead of focusing on the best solutions. Okay? Now, some of you will eye roll, oh, high-minded, I'm just pissed. Listen, Howard Beale is an archetype in my business and in our culture for a reason. Go Google him and watch his little mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. Clip. Why did it resonate? Boy, do people feel that way. Wow, is it true? Is it true? And that was in the 1970s.

It's just as true today, maybe more so. But here's the mistake. People keep arguing because Trump does something about a real problem. And because they oppose Trump and oppose his motivations and maybe even oppose his operations, they wind up overstepping the position into seeming to be in favor of whatever the problem is. Like what? immigration. The deference to humanity that I think exists more on the left than on the right, of course, you could say no, because the people on the right actually want to enforce the laws

and give the dignity of these people the right way to come in, instead of letting it languish and let it be, all right, you can argue it any way you want. I have my opinion, you have yours. But what I'm saying is the overreach was pretending it wasn't a problem. And that gave Trump an opportunity, even if his fixes were too heavy-handed. We're wrong. We're misdirected. We're exaggerated. We're malicious. And I feel like that when it comes to ICE. I feel for those men and women doing the job. I get why they're worried about getting doxed and worried about their families, but I do not believe that you can have law enforcement running around in masks in America. It's not who we are. And you got to think about who you are and who you want to be, and you have to be that way.

and I know it's hard. I fail at it in my own life every day. Imagine how more complicated and difficult it is to do as a group of someone's instead of just one person. I get it. It's hard. That's why it's about the effort and how you direct the effort.

And when you miss the problem because you are against the solutions, you fuck up your ability to connect to the majority. Because the majority wants law and order. The majority wants to be safe. And yes, there are a lot of things and assumptions and biases that play into what that looks and feels like for different kinds of people.

But let's take Washington, D.C. The left and those who oppose MAGA, and look, I mean, I don't have to say this, but I'm not a MAGA guy. Why? Because I don't believe in empty outrage. I am not an lefty fringe opposite of MAGA, whatever they decide to call themselves. why because i am not about empty outrage and misguided solutions but i didn't make the mistake with maga nor am i making it with the populist reaction to it on the left of negating people's feelings about their grievance are people wrong to be worried about the state of culture

and values in america no they're not wrong there are a lot of real concerns and issues that many we ignore and some we take on the wrong way. But the remedies for those things, throwing out everyone who entered this country illegally, no matter how, no matter the circumstances, no matter what they've done once they've been here, even though that there was an obvious system of nonchalance through Democrat and Republican administrations.

Yes, it hit its nadir during Biden and created political advantage for Trump, but the idea that there hasn't been a suggestion that was nothing like, subtle to people that if you can get in here, you'll be able to stay and live the life that you want. Now, wrong message you send? Okay, fine, but that's the message you're sent. And the idea of rounding them all up is not only not feasible. It's not only probably not legal, but it's also, I don't think, right. Okay? Not everybody who comes in the wrong way is the same. I really believe

that. You don't have to. I'm not asking for your vote, so don't worry about it. But you overstepped the problem on the left because you didn't like the person who wanted to solve it and you should have been just messing with his solutions. Ice is overreaching. They're being made to overreach. I don't blame the men and women doing the job. Oh, they should quit. No, I don't believe that. They're doing a job. They're doing the job they're told to do. Just like it's like saying all soldiers should drop arms if they don't agree with every single thing of a political aspect of what's happening in their conflict. It's not how it works. So, the mistake, and we'll see this heading into the midterms, don't miss the problem because of your problems with the proposed solutions.

Don't miss the problem. Maga people are a bunch of bigots for being worried about fill in the blank. Mistake. You're negating their grievance. Okay? and all that does is galvanize and push you away. Same thing on the left. Affordability is a real problem. Okay? It's a problem in major cities. It's a problem all over this country.

That's true. Socialism is not the solution. Okay? Free this, raising taxes, finding ways to squeeze the top as much as you can. They will leave. I don't care if they leave. Yeah, you do. yeah you do and what that means the message it sends defund the police all of these extreme notions

are highly debatable and flawed that's where my space is you're not wrong to want rent to be lower you're not wrong to want more gainful employment you're not wrong to want to be safe you're not wrong for uh male and female to still be a thing uh you're not wrong You're not wrong to want to feel that being a Christian is left alone as much as being a Muslim. I get it. You may perceive it in a different way than I do. You may have an exaggerated or a mitigated sense of what matters and why than I do, but that's okay. That's what debates for.

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The winner of the midterms is going to be the party that connects with the majority in this country on the common concerns as they are presented before them. What does that mean? Of course, economics. But in what way? I think it's going to be a referendum on the tariffs. And whether or not this was too heavy-handed, but don't make the mistake again, I'm anti-tariffs, even if they bring back production jobs, even if they wind up making more money for America, then. It was before it? No, I'm not against America doing better in trade deals.

I'm not against having more manufacturing just because it's Trump saying he wants to do it. It's his solutions, I disagree with. Tariffing everyone as high as you could everywhere all at once was too much. And you have created price pressure that is now starting to manifest itself in what matters most on the economy. Pocket book economic politics. Okay. Prices are going up. They are denying it. They're denying it. They're denying it. They're denying it. But the trend is not their friend. Okay. And I don't think monetary policy can correct enough, given how much has been flooded in already with all the quantitative easing. I think it's going to be a problem and that's going to be the economy. Now, an issue like D.C. is a great distraction from that. Why? Because if you are against what Trump is doing, that means you are pro-crime. Because what he's doing is trying to reduce crime. Is that what he's really trying to do?

I don't know. That's what he says he's doing. Well, I think that what he's doing is trying to show that he can be an authoritarian in places that are known for being brown and blue, meaning Democrat. Maybe. Maybe. There are, I think, just fewer than two dozen cities in this country where you have more black people than white people. Who cares? I wouldn't, except for the purpose of this analysis. D.C. is one of them. Is that why he picked D.C.?

He's in D.C. So that makes sense. And could there be other reasons? Yes. but I don't know that because he hasn't stated them. He says that the crime is high there. Everybody's worried about it. Now, does that hold up?

Yeah, crime is a problem in Washington, D.C. Now, can you do a comparison? Yes, but don't miss the problem. Don't say, don't do anything to help crime in D.C., Mr. President, because there are other things that matter more, because now you don't seem like you care about crime, and D.C. does have a crime problem. Now, the right thing to do is two different avenues of attack.

Okay? Strategy and tactics. Strategy and tactics. Strategy is about the philosophy. Why D.C.? Because you're there? Okay, I accept that. You're there. Okay. Why else? Because statistically, D.C. is not where you start. Statistically, it's not where you start. In fact, the red states, this now leads credibility to the tactic. The strategy is, what do you want to do? You want to reduce crime in big cities? Sending in the National Guard is not how to do it. Bringing in federal authorities. that aren't used to operating in those areas or with those systems or services is not the way to do it. You have to look at what is causing crime in east of those municipalities and deal with it. And it's not, look, D.C. is a great place to start.

Our analysis of it being the wrong place to start based on what? Law enforcement presence. Per capita, D.C. has one of the highest ratios between federal and municipal. of boots on the ground, if you want to call on that, you know, people on the street, law enforcement, whatever you want. They have a ton of them. So then why do they still have crime? Ah, because that's not, that's not what it's just about. It's not just about punishing. It's not just about presence.

It's about poverty. It's about culture. It's about avenues of opportunity or lack thereof. Okay. Now, how do we know this? Because it is being addressed in cities all across the country. And you know who's doing it? In most cases, ambitious young mayors, or not age-wise, but ambitious mayors, mayors of these places, and a lot of them are Democrats. So, for instance, I was going to go after the red states that are offering the send National Guard to Washington, D.C., when they have their own crime problems that are the same or worse than what's happening in Washington, D.C., which just makes the point that this is a red versus blue thing and a little bit of the brown man, boogeyman being sprinkled in there by these places until I got to Ohio. And I was like, oh, their capital, crime is actually going down in Columbus. And then I did a little bit more research. And it turns out, even though they have this nonpartisan mayor system there, he's a Democrat, the guy.

And he's doing things that are very intelligent about how to reduce crime in his specific community of Columbus by doing more than just punishing everybody. That you have to meet your people where you find them and what their needs are and what the deficiencies are and what the challenges are. and he's doing that and it's it's been going well for him and that's the real message here it's not about the problem crime is real people want to be safe they're not safe enough in too many places how how is the fight no not national guard national guard's not going to do it no not federal task force agencies it's not going to get it done you've got to create opportunities for these people you know one of the fastest things look up one of the metrics for yourself percentage of people arrested for property crimes who are employed let's see first thing you're

going to find is that we don't measure this stuff well enough if you want the federal government involved in policing we should get them involved first in the data collection because that's where they actually can do something and we don't have great stats on crime and I've always felt it's because we don't care enough about um what to do about it except to make political hay at it support comes from incogny you know I don't know if you've picked up on this but it's really become painfully apparent to me. So many of the companies I interact with, especially on the internet,

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So check it out for yourself. My video sponsor is Incogni and they're worth a checkout. So the mistake that's being made with DC is it's easy to say this is racist, okay? Is it? Maybe, maybe not. It doesn't get you to where you want to be, which is connecting to the majority because there are more people in this country, I would wager, who believe that more police equals more better than the opposite. Okay. Now, you may want to have that fight. I don't. I want to have whether this is the best way to reduce crime in this area. Okay? And you don't need a God forbid.

You don't need National Guardsmen to spray automatic rounds and kill a bunch of people for it to be the wrong way to solve the problem. And what you do is you show that the percentage of people who get convicted of property crimes who are employed, a job, a job that gives you dignity, that gives you a sense of purpose and worth. Okay? That is the way that you bring down crime, giving people another avenue to dignity. Not that there's that much dignified about about crime, but there is something psychological about providing and surviving. And I'm not justifying crime. Of course, I'm anti-crime, but it's how do you deal with it? And that's what you should be fighting with Trump, not that he's trying to fight crime, but how he's trying to fight it.

Because one way, you look like some mushy pro-crime lefty, and the other way, you look like somebody who's just got better ideas, that you should be addressing what actually makes the biggest difference when it comes to safety and law enforcement and low crime, which is what? Well, that the laws are real and the enforcement is real and the incarceration is real and it's fair and it's consistent. But, but, instead of just dealing with the outcomes, it's what goes into those outcomes. What are the programs in place? How does that economy work? How does that education system work. How does the family services work in that place? This all matters as much or more. Fight about those. If you care, dare to do the right things, not just the most obvious things.

That's what you should be hearing. But time and time again, we see that this lesson has not been learned. What is the mistake that the left made with Bernie? Bernie picked the right grievance at the right time. He was ahead of Trump on the MAGA grievance. He was ahead. But forget about his personal packaging. Socialism is not the right answer for America. And they didn't learn. And now they're doing the same thing with their populist reformation that they did with Bernie, which is they are embracing radical, irrational solutions. They're right about the problem. They're wrong about the remedy. Just like my feelings about MAGA. They didn't learn the burning problem. They didn't learn the immigration problem. Okay. They didn't learn the California problem.

When people see people running all over the streets to burn up cars and attacking people and property, they like a show of force. You're wrong if you think that doesn't work in America. It does. And it should. Not because we should be shooting our own when they protest. Of course not. And I hate that I have to say that. I hate that every word that comes out of my fucking mouth can be twisted and weaponized because we're in a constant game of gotcha, of point for point, and rhetorical bullshit instead of dealing holistically with what we say we care about. It is all opportunism and advantage all the time.

Nobody gives a shit about getting to a better place except for their own personal brand. And that's really what's holding us back. That really is the root cause of it. We are not in it together. There is no collective concern or cause. It's all about advantage over the other and your own ability to make a space for yourself with your platform and score points. And you're going to do that with insults more than with insights. And you're going to do it with negativity.

Why? Because it's what works. It's what works. It's what plays to the human sympathies. And Trump knows that. And he does it really well. And no, I am not a MAGA guy. Why is that the conclusion?

Because I'm telling Democrats what they're doing wrong. Wouldn't that be suggestive to you that I'm trying to help? I mean, what the fuck is going on here these days? I need some podcast listening person who's lucky if they vote telling me who grew up at the knee of one of the greatest democratic orators in a generation. and the second guy was my older brother who was a three-term New York governor. Eighteen different campaigns, no cameras, no media, whether it was Dinkins or Obama or Clinton or Gore or Reagan or Bush or Domato or all these other names that you don't even know of people who are positions in power that I watched and listened to. and spoke to outside of cameras not as a member of the media

so you get what they really believe and I need you to tell me what a Democrat is I mean the arrogance I get what a fucking Democrat is I don't get what you've done to the party it doesn't work AOC

is a great great political player she has a degree of charisma that is befuddling to me, but she hasn't. She has passion. She has constituency. She has purpose. But her remedies suck.

And so the righteousness of her cause, which is there, is, in my opinion, ruined by remedies that will never matter to the majority. And that's what's happening in D.C. And that is the mistake that we keep seeing made. that you are now in a position where people can look at the MAGA folks and say, look, they don't even give a shit about the crime in D.C. Because it's Trump. They don't even want him to do anything about the crime. He's offering to help, and they don't want it to just because it's Trump.

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also grow to be six six uh i'd be surprised by that as well because it doesn't seem to be right he's already taller than i am but but that shouldn't happen that would be outside the expectation no it isn't he says all these things that hitler did no he doesn't no he doesn't no he doesn't Well, no, this is the way it started in 1938. I get the fears. I get the fears, especially among Jewish people, although they don't see Trump as their biggest enemy. The Nazi thing is ironically about non-Jews and how they feel about Trump versus what Jews think about who's a Nazi and who isn't, which is kind of weird. And another expression of how manipulated our politics is now about who gets to own what grievance and when.

But I don't have to agree with you that he is the devil. for me to disagree with his remedies and solutions. And it doesn't make me a MAGA guy because I say Bravo to America for trying to bring peace to Ukraine and to the Middle East, especially when you're against two entities there, players who don't want peace,

who profit from problems, Putin and Hamas. Oh, you're a Trumper now. What are you talking about? America doesn't have to be in the peace in Ukraine or Israel business. You don't see Italy or France or Germany putting forth the political capital and the influence and the money that we are. Bravo to us. America matters for all her flaws or her faults, all the hypocrisy, all of what she doesn't and isn't that she could and should be.

America has a special place in this world and it matters. And we're seeing that in those two situations. Did he overpromise? Of course he overpromised. of course he did that is his political persuasion that's how he does it if you don't like it don't vote for him we've had three elections with the guy already what i'm saying is me saying bravo for trying to make peace doesn't mean the way he's trying to make peace is the right way me saying great you want to fight crime great let's talk about how and let's talk about where

And let's talk about why. That's the conversation to have. It's not the conversation we're having. We're having a conversation that makes people who are resistant to what he's doing look like they care about the wrong things. And I don't think that's the case, but I think that's the way it's playing out. You have to learn the lesson of not negating the problem because you want to negate the person trying to solve it. Focus on the solutions. That's how you win the midterms.

did tariffs help or hurt looked at through the lens of every household economy in this country that's the framing for the economic issue or it should be what will be the social issue i can't tell you right now you guys are too fickle the cycles are too fast it's too random i don't know but i will tell you if you focus on who is to blame or why it is or what it's about you're going to lose if you focus on the solutions trans the idea that a guy like me shouldn't be playing high school girls volleyball that's a no-brainer the argument is not to say no it's okay don't say anything about that uh 230 pound guy throwing my daughter on the ground I feel for him.

No, it's, yes, that shouldn't happen. And we don't have to negate all trans people because of it. It doesn't have to be 230-pound guys playing girls volleyball or any kid at any age can decide to chop the genitals off. This is not where we should be. That is not live and let live. That is not about the reasonable nature of solutions to problems. It's just negating problems.

I don't want there to be trans people. Okay. Fine, as an opinion, but not a reasonable remedy in a pluralistic society. I want them to be able to do whatever they want. It doesn't matter if it's unfair because other things are unfair about them and there are other things that are more unfair than this. No. You're now in favor of something that's wrong, which makes you no better than what you say.

oppose. Oh yeah, but there's a greater good. Now, I don't buy that. You've got to be very careful with moral relativism. The remedy is to have a rule structure where trans people are given every advantage of any other type, but they're not given an advantage that disadvantages any other type. That can be done. That's what must be done. And that's the way to discuss it. And yeah, it's a niche issue. I mean, look, it isn't. It isn't. okay it's not a niche issue to the families that are affected by what they see as unfair play but much much much more important to me because it's a much much bigger number or the kids who suffer all over this country because they're targeted for being trans and the many people who are trans who are in agony about their sense of self and what they need help with and how they have to be understood and accommodated within society that's a much bigger concern to me and by demonizing them which is what happens when you adopt this absolutist nature against people who all ready don't understand or don't like what these people are you're asking for trouble and that's what you've gotten and now we see it again with dc where look you you you know you know we answer our

comments here to me it seems like trump wants to get rid of crime in dc even if it means breaking some glass and the left is saying no leave it alone don't do it because we don't like how you're doing it without having a better way to do it and i think that's a mistake. I think it's a political loss. I think it disconnects them for the majority. And they're at risk of losing the midterms. You know, I mean, look, the Senate, if you look at Kalshi or any of these expectation markets, it's really the House that's in play because the margin is so small. But the idea that Democrats are going to win because people hate Trump, that's not why. That's not why, because they already hold those seats. Okay, look, let me teach you a little

something about what's happening with the gerrymandering, which again is another example of this. Poor Elbridge, Jerry, he really gets hit with that gerrymandering. And really, the reason he did it early on was nowhere near as nefarious as what it is today. But that's how it goes. Jerrymandering is another one where you're missing the better solution by negating the problem. Texas is going to manipulate it to get more seats. Okay. First of all, is this done?

Yes. has it ever been done this way before by Democrats? No. They have never done it at the direction of the president and manipulated it without connection to census. So no, they haven't done that. But they're doing it now. Okay. So is the reaction to that to do it in California? Politically right now, the left wants the answer to be yes. It is harsh and it's fighting fire with fire and it's Gavin Newsom using caps like Trump and playing Trump's game, I think it's a mistake. I think the reason that you will win, because you already hold all those seats, that's what gerrymandering is all about.

Places that don't like Trump, they're all Democrats already. They're very, very, very, very, very few purple districts because these two fucking parties manipulate our political system for their advantage, not yours. the real argument to have is about not just oh this is the system we got chris we got to go with it if that's the way it was we would have never gotten rid of enslaved people in this country because that's how it was also certain things are wrong okay and a constitutional republic where you don't have the population really determining the outcome of things is wrong. So go to the solution. It's not just to cheat when they cheat. It's to expose how this

happens at the state level and to pursue legitimate avenues to change it. Don't negate the problem, fight over the solution, okay? Whether it's the economy, with affordability, whether it's about policing, whether it's about immigration, whether it's about culture, whether it's about our political process, be about better. Be in the business of better. You will expose your opponents for being the cheap, obvious, hollow grievance mongers that they are, and you will prove to the majority that for whatever their misgivings and disaffection is, they know that your idea is better for how to.

fix. That is what needs to be focused on if you want to win the midterms or any conversation about anything that matters. I'm Chris Cuomo. Thank you for subscribing and following. Thank you for checking me out on News Nation, AP and 11P, every weekday night. And I'm pushing you to be independent because these parties are poison. They're getting more extreme. They're making us more extreme. be a critical thinker be a free agent that's enough let's get after it