The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – 2020 Book Author Guests On The Show Roundup Part 1

Episode Date: December 30, 2020

2020 Book Author Guests On The Show Roundup Part 1

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One of the things we did is for, you know, the show's been around for technically 10 years, but I think the core of what we've done in podcasts really probably circumvent maybe a good two to three years. We kept taking time off and coming back to it and going back, and there were a lot of years where we thought podcasting was dying, and then Apple got involved and brought it back. Now there's over 700 shows on the Chris Voss Show and the channels too as well. TheCBPN.com, ChrisVossPodcastNetwork.com. You can see all nine podcasts that are over there. And we've put up just a record amount of shows this year. So we're going to do like a special recap series of shows here in the last couple days. If you've noticed, our traffic's been a little light on guests for book authors over the holidays of Christmas,

mainly because, you know, I guess people just didn't want to come on during that time. We have a huge slate of impressive book authors and guests coming in January and February that we've already booked into. So it became pretty obvious they didn't want to come for Christmas, but you know, I can't blame everyone's a little time off this time of year. Anyway, one of the major factors that we did this year is up until the coronavirus hit, we pretty much focused on technology and CEOs of tech companies, CEOs of businesses, entrepreneurism, business, MBA sort of stuff, you know, all that sort of geeky business stuff. And when the coronavirus hit, I was really just kind of burnt out on it.

I was burnt out on having guests on, you know, oh, you have the latest coaching book. There's nothing wrong with people who have coaching books, but you know what I mean? Oh, you have another self-published book. Um, and I love people that self-published books, but I'm like, you know what? I want a, uh, top tier, uh, high guest, high level sort of guests on people that you would see on TV, people that have written multitude of books, uh, incredible authors, people that are represented by Simon Schuster, Harper Collins, really taught people that these are accredited book authors that, you know, appeared

on the New York Times bestseller list, et cetera, et cetera. And I said, let's try opening the show up a little bit more. And what came from it was awesome and an experience that I have fallen completely in love with because I'm a master, or I'm not a master, but I love trading in all things, let's put it that way, as a Renaissance man. And so I can pretty much go on with just about anybody and at least play along with them. But what's really been nice is we opened it to the book authors and we got a groundswell of huge amounts of authors on the show. Just an incredible amount of brilliant,

stupendous people, people who work for some of the top publications, uh, in the news industry, uh, anchors on TV, uh, people who regularly appear on,

uh, you know, CBS, uh, NBC, MSNBC, CNN. Um, uh, we have people from the wall street CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN. We got people from the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, people from Time Magazine, Washington Post, you name it.

We got really good, great, and incredible journalists, brilliant authors, brilliant minds, people from all sorts of great universities as well. We were very impressed with the folks we got from universities. You know, these guys are scholars. These guys are not like, well, they're just scholars. They're brilliant people.

Let's put it that way. I don't want to put people down. But, you know, I just got really tired of, you know, trying to get guests on the show and it became much easier to do it this way. And of course, we built a great show, so it appealed to Scheinman & Schuster and other publishers. Like, yeah, we'll put them on. And of course, it helped that coronavirus had everybody locked down. But anyway, so what we're going to do is I'm going to do a series of shows. I don't know how much this is going to take, and I'm going to go through all the great book authors that we had on the show this year,

just the year 2020. We're going to start from the beginning, and we're going to go all the way through. So if you feel like, why did Chris put me at the end? Nothing personal. I'm literally going to start at the beginning and walk through each of the shows. And I'm just going to give you my personal thoughts or memories on the shows. And my apologies if I don't quite remember a whole lot of great things about the show that you were on. But I'm going to tell people to go check out your thing. And this might be

a great compilation. If you're looking for some great books that you want to use to educate yourself into this next year, I'm going to name off a plethora of them. And I got to tell you, every one of these guests that came on the show, I loved, I enjoyed, except for one of them, actually. I loved and enjoyed. I learned so much from. And I appreciate having on the show even the one that I didn't like. And I'll let you figure out who that was. But I can tell you it was fiction.

It wasn't fiction. It was, I guess it was kind of, but I can tell you it was fiction. It wasn't fiction. I guess it was some war thing. Anyway, it's probably a great book, but being a dick as an author showing up on podcasts probably isn't the smartest idea to take and do, especially when people are being nice to you and giving you their time as well. Anyway, I'm going to go through all of this, all the brilliant people we have in the show, including the one that I didn't like. And maybe you can figure it out.

I'm going to, I'm giving you something to hunt for here. So if not there, I mean, they're great author. They just, I won't get into it, but, but you know, they were just rude. Let's put it that way. Rude, rude. Um, and I get that these authors, they come on the show, they do a lot of these, but every author we've had on the show has been incredibly gracious, uh, wonderful people. I've been honored to maybe get to know them or be friends with some of them, uh, and some of their insights, either privately or, uh, publicly what they've talked about on the show. And,

and it's been a real great honor to have all of them on the show. And I've definitely appreciated them except for one. So we'll leave it at that. I'm giving you something to fun to play with here. So you're going to listen to the whole show going, where's the one anyway? So, uh,

we're going to do is there's going to be a part one, part two. I think there might be a part three. It just depends on how long my big mouth goes. So these may break into several different episodes. So you get to go through them and we're going to start at the beginning. So let's get down to it. 2020 top book authors that we had on the show. The first book author that we had on the show was in January of 2020. It was my good friend, Gary Shapiro. If you don't know who Gary Shapiro is, he's the CEO of CTA, which is the Consumer Technology Association, I believe, and CES Show, the Consumer Electronics Show.

If you're familiar, the giant show that they have every year at CES. I attend as press, and, of of course we do a lot of interviews there, et cetera, et cetera. Uh, but Gary, uh, for last, I think he's done three or four appearances now in a row. I used to forget to ask him and I'd asked too late, but then I finally got my act together and, um, got him on the show. Uh, and now he pretty much hears every January. In fact, I think I was the first to get him this year. And, yeah, and it's always wonderful to have Gary on. Gary has a perspective with the CTA Agency Association that they have, you know, thousands of these technology people that they represent in their association to governments, not only in the U.S.,

but they lobby for, if you will. They put on this giant show. He's the author of a multitude of books. I'll name the book that he most recently did called Ninja Future, Secrets to Success in the New World of Innovation. He's written a multitude of books, but it was great to have him on the show. We just recently actually had him again on the show, uh,

to talk about, um, what we're doing for, uh, let's see what we're doing for, uh, 2021 for CS. So you can check out the two shows that Gary has been on.

You can just search for him. And I probably should make a note here. You can search for any of these people on the chrisfoshow.com. You go to the chrisfoshow.com or one of the other podcasts on our network, Chris Voss Podcasts, Book Author Podcasts, and you can search the name or the title of the book and you can find the episode and listen to it. There's over 700 podcasts over there. Oh yeah. One thing I do want to throw in here. I just discovered this, the Chris Voss show and its authors are, uh, featured on, uh, well, they're not featured. They just show up, but they're, they're showing up on now on Amazon music and audible. So the Chris Voss show is on audible. Yeah. Which is pretty

freaking awesome. And what's really cool is, uh uh their episodes are showing up in search with google search and stuff uh or amazon search or audible search you can find our episodes of the chris voss show and it looks really beautiful so uh congratulations to all the wonderful um all the wonderful authors that came on our show you're really getting some ranking there on the amazon uh anyway guys uh so check out Gary's episode. Gary is a warm, wonderful friend. He's a guy who cares and is very passionate. He's a very smart attorney and lawyer, and he does a great job with everything he does.

It was wonderful having the show. I'm honored to be a friend of his. I think he's a brilliant guy, and he has to work hard to master what he does. Uh, the next guest that we want to show is another good friend of mine. He wrote, uh, one of his books. He wrote several books, uh, latest or most popular one, at least one I could find on Amazon was return on relationship ROR as he likes to call it. It's my good friend, Ted Rubin. Uh, Ted, uh, I've known for, I don't know, almost 10 years. And, uh uh i wish i'd spent more time getting to know him and and uh he's one of those people that was in my circles for a long time and i

finally sat down i think a year or two ago and i said i really want to get to know you better personally as a friend and get to know who more about who you are because you just seem like a really great guy um and uh so we had him on the show and he, uh, he he's awesome. Ted's awesome. You should follow him wherever he is, read his books. Uh, he's an inspirational gentleman, really brilliant. Um, I'm not really sure what more to say about him. I mean, I just name off all your favorite verbs or good verbs. Um, he, he is a great, brilliant guy. And, uh, we had him on the show. I think it was in February or January. Uh, just a real impressive gentleman. Uh, be good to people. I can see on a shirt here on the picture that we're taking a

look at. So be sure to check him out if you will. Uh, one of the next people to be on the show was my good friend Mitch Jackson, and he wrote The Ultimate Guide to Social Media. You should check out that book. I've known Mitch for a long time. Mitch is an attorney, I believe in Orange County still, and he is an incredible gentleman, a brilliant guy, incredible high integrity. I try and keep friends that have a lot of high integrity around me. That's really important to me. And so usually I bring those people into my circles. And I can't say enough good things about my good friend Mitch either.

He's definitely brilliant. And check out his guide. I don't remember a lot from the show. We're friends, so it all blends together, if you will. It's just how it is, man. He's on the show, and he does his thing. Next up, we had a really good guest on the show, Jude Morrow, who wrote the book, Why Does Daddy Always Look So Sad?

This is a really moving interview that I did and a great author. I have some friends that have kids that have autism, and it's a challenging thing to take and have. And he suffers from autism, but he has a son who is, does not have autism. And the problem he has is his relationship with his son in having his son understand why daddy is the way he is. That's why the title of the book is, why does daddy always look so sad? And it was moving to have him on because you don't, you don't really think about, you know, I've been in a situation where in my family we had a fourth child who was born with cerebral palsy, mental issues, you know, spends their time in hospitals and care centers for care. And, you know, basically with brain damage, only got to maybe level age three of their life.

So I know what that's like to be a parent and have the child like that. But his role is kind of reversed where daddy has autism and his son doesn't. And his son can't figure out why. The thing is, so he wrote this beautiful book to help other parents like him and their children understand the challenges that daddy has. And daddy still loves you, but daddy has the functions of autism. And, you know, it just helps bridge that gap. So I thought it was a really beautiful book. Another gentleman we had on the show, miracle-minded manager John J. Murphy,

was really awesome to have on the show. John J. Murray, he's written several books, like a whole ton of books. But a lot of them are good feel-good books. He wrote this book based upon A Course in Miracles, I believe it was. And so there's a bit of inspiration, but it's a fictional story. It's a story he kind of tells using those principles and kind of something to kind of educate people as well. Really impressed with him as a guy, really freaking nice guy. And it was a joy to have him on.

I think you should check out all of his books. He's written a lot of books. He's just a great author and a great person as well. Let's see. I'm going to go through here. The next up, big authors, two or three authors I'm going to skip. We're going to put them at the end because I need to dig up their books. So my apologies for those authors, but they will make the show. We had Kim Whaley. She's she's a professor of law, uh, her book, what you need to know about voting. You probably see here on CBS. I believe she appears a lot.

I think she's also on the bulwark. Um, and, uh, and she writes, uh, she's trying to put on a really good show on Instagram and a lot of smart guests and things of that nature. You should check her out over there. Really brilliant. One of the first guests that, uh, I was having trouble with the guests on the show that we've been having on for years. Where I was trying to get them to bring the energy of the show. And I remember she came with so much energy.

Of course, she's used to being on TV and talking to anchors, different things. So she's used to really bringing it. And so I remember I was really impressed with her. Because she brought energy to the show. and she was a great guest in that because that, that really helps me because I, I do a lot of jokes and everything else, but even more, she brought a lot of great knowledge on voting, what was important. And of course, this was great in the lead up to the election of 2020. She's also got another book that I should probably plug for. And I may get the title of this wrong. because I'm coming off the top of my head.

How to Read the Constitution and Why It's Important or something to that effect. Just Google Kim Whaley's name, W-E-H-L-E. You'll find that Constitution book. I actually want to read this book now. I've sat down and read the Constitution for the first time this year. And I was flunky in school. Sorry, I'll be honest. Never read the Constitution up time this year. And, uh, I was flunky in school. Sorry. That's I'll be honest. Um, never read the constitution up until this year. And, uh, it was an amazing document. One

of the reasons I want to read her book. And I think you should too about the constitution is, uh, the constitution is a living document, so you can read the constitution, but you also need to read, uh, everything that was added to it, the Supreme Court laws, all the different things that are reinforced or made different aspects of the Constitution into law. And so it's a living document. You can't just read the Constitution. You've got to read all the other stuff. So I'm really interested in reading her book.

That's on my list for 2021. Actually, I'm on the show for that as well, but she's doing a great job putting on a show on, on Instagram. She's got great, uh, guests. So be sure to check out Kim Whaley. Uh, next person on the show, this is the beginning of something that changed, um, my life and introduced me to someone that I'd never heard of. And I'll, I'll, and I'm going to tell you the story of how this came about and one of the most important people that I met this year. And, well, let's just get into it. There's the setup.

So I've always been a fan of Eddie Glaude Jr. Eddie's always been brilliant. I always see him on Morning Joe, MSNBC. I watch Morning Joe every morning with my Morning Joe coffee. And Morning Joe not only has Mika and Joe on there, they have just a plethora of just incredible brilliant guests. The Rev, I'm trying to name a few off the top of my head, but brilliant guys. But Eddie is always impressive. Eddie can go on, and Eddie can not only deliver one of the most intellectual thoughts

or his take on whatever's going on with the news or whatever it is, but Eddie doesn't fuck around. Like, Eddie gets right to the point point and he gets the meat of it but not only does he deliver it in an intellectual form but he delivers it in a passionate form that's moving like you you get sucked in with eddie where when he really gets into it he's almost like a intellectual emotional poet and and he doesn't waste any words like you know i mean like i waste words if you listen to show if you listen a lot of commentators they'll run off and you know sometimes you're just like where the fuck were you going there eddie can like put this thing in a package and when he gets

done it just rounds up like a perfect comedian or perfect poem or perfect, um, rap or whatever you want to call it. But Eddie can put it down. And, and, and I, I, sometimes I wonder if he writes it down ahead of time, but he does it so spontaneously. And I've seen different episodes where people go, Hey, Eddie, give us the wrap up. And Eddie, you'll just go boom. And he just nails the fucking thing right out of the park. He's like Babe Ruth really, when it comes down to it and so i really have a really appreciation for eddie on his delivery his brilliance uh his intellect but also his emotionalness he's he almost could be a preacher and i would go to eddie's church if eddie became a preacher i'm an atheist if Eddie became a fucking preacher I would go to Eddie's fucking church so um but uh uh having him on the show was really brilliant so anyway the story let me go back on the story here this is why there's going to be multiple parts because

this is going to take forever to go through all these books but you're going to get some really cool insights to our interviews so I think you'll love this part uh so anyway Eddie had been plugging a book that was going to come out called Begin Again. And there was a story about James Baldwin, who I had no idea was at the time. And I remember Eddie was talking about it and plugging in on the Morning Joe. And I was like, Eddie's got a book. I should probably go check out some of Eddie's books. And I remember looking at the cover of Begin again uh that he wrote and i see this weird

looking guy and if you've seen james baldwin he's a brilliant guy and he has that same sort of emotional delivery that that's brilliant in it's just emotional like intellectualism if you will this mixture that's uh so beautiful and potent um and I'm like, who's this guy? And one thing about James Baldwin, he's got some weird kind of fish eyes going on. I love James Baldwin. Don't get me wrong, but he's got these weird eyes

that kind of bug out from his head at you. But it also kind of becomes captivating once he starts doing his thing. And I remember looking at the cover thing, and that's a weird looking dude. I don't know. And there's a bunch of empty chairs. I don't know what's going on.

It's probably some mystery book. I don't know. I'll read it. I'll find out who this James Baldwin guy is when Eddie puts the book out. So that's the setup for the story. In the meantime, somewhere, Simon Schuster, Harper Collins, I'm not sure who did the book on this, but they booked The Fire is Upon Us by Nicholas Pakola. And while I was waiting for Eddie's book, and I think Eddie was booked on the show, we were just waiting for the date to come around. Nicholas appeared on the show with me, and uh, an incredible, just an incredible discussion

about race. And, uh, he turned me on to, um, the famous episode that I'd never heard of again, cause I flunked out of school cause I'm an idiot, uh, between James Baldwin and the conservative, um, uh, guy who wrote the nation, William Buckley jr. Who have I've always hated. I've always hated William Buckley jr. He just comes across as a cocky ass when I used to watch him when I was a kid, I wanted to punch him in the face all the time. I had no idea what he was saying, but he just came off of that, uh, pomposity. Is that a word?

He just came off of this pompousness that I just didn't like him at all, which is probably why I don't like conservatives when it comes down to it. I guess maybe that's why it started with him. Anyway, William F. Buckley and James Baldwin, if you have not seen it, you've got to see the famous episode that they did where they go. And I can't remember what university it was, but it's some scholarly university. And they go do a debate and it is epic it is the most epic thing you've ever seen i was floored when i watched it the way james ballwin delivers the his argument on race and racism in america growing up in America, the struggles that he has to deal with,

and then, of course, selling his version of how we fix racism or how we need to address it or start to address it. And then just watching him just totally like... Like, William F. Buckley just came to the pulpit with frickin' nothing, with nothing but excuses and diversions, and then I think finally he broke down and addressed it. But watching the debate is beautiful. It's just, from an intellectual standpoint and emotional standpoint,

it is extraordinary to watch. But Nicholas also brought wonderful other things to the conversation that we took and had. I was super impressed with Nicholas. I'd love to have him on the show again in fact i could talk to him for hours if if he let me um i probably need to stalk nicholas some more and have him on the show again but uh it's a credible book his book the fire upon us talks about how william f buckley was raised in you know uh wealth and and, you know, he's a basically a trust fund baby. Uh, you know, he had everything he wanted and he talked about the difference in, you know, he basically laid up the, uh, road to who William F. Buckley became and probably

why he became it as opposed, uh, you know, it came from his youth. Um, and then of course he did the same thing with James Baldwin. And so it was kind of a like a lead-up like to that great debate moment that was famous if you haven't seen it um go see it then uh i think a week or two later uh and and so anyway when i got floored just watching this debate i started consuming everything james baldwin i consumed everything i possibly could i started watching videos endlessly i yeah i've I still got to pour through his novels. That's on the 2021 book. But James Baldwin appealed to me in a way that I don't think anyone has ever appealed to me as someone of intellect

or emotion that really touched and moved me. The things he said were epic. And what's even amazing is the stuff he said 50 years ago still resides with us today and resonates today. Like he's speaking today, especially during this time when Black Lives Matter was coming out. So I was really floored. I just started consuming like everything, like all day long. I'd just be playing James Baldwin videos I could find on YouTube. Uh, I think I consumed everything twice because there's so much of it that overlaps over there. Um, if you haven't discovered James Baldwin, I highly, highly, uh, impressed upon you to take and check him out and you should get both their books, the fires upon us and begin again by Eddie Gawd Jr. Um, I had. I had Eddie on and it was an honor to have him on as well.

Eddie came on the show and we had a really candid conversation and a really heartfelt conversation. It's hard to talk to Eddie and not get pulled into just the emotional intellectualism of him. And we talked about race. We talked about racism. We talked about James Baldwin. We talked about how do we deal with these times? Um, we had a few great Eddie moments where he just wraps off,

you know, beautiful stuff. Um, I had a lot of fun with Eddie too. Uh, I got him to laugh and there was, there was a lot of moments where he was like, you actually read the book.

You actually give a shit about this stuff. At least that was the impression I got. He seemed to laugh, and he seemed to be inspired by the conversation we had. And it was just a great conversation. It wasn't like one of those, like, hey, how are you? How's your book, eh? It was just a wonderful fun conversation one of the things um is we've talked about eddie's book and james ball when throughout a lot of the racism and racist and

dealing with racist issues uh and a lot of the social books that we had and authors on the show we plugged the shit out of his book so i hope hope Eddie knows that. And it just came up because it was the topic of issue. But there were a lot of great authors that came on that actually took their inspiration for James Baldwin along with Eddie. And so that was incorporated in the show. This book did make a beginning in our 2020 list of holiday books. So I highly recommend you read his book and check it out. If you don't know Eddie Glaude read his book and check it out if you don't know eddie glad junior you should check it out in fact 2021 i've got my thing to read several of his other books so i'm hoping we moved a lot of copies you promoted the shit out of his book this year and

i'm hoping we moved a lot of copies freddie and thanks to him for being on the show one other thing i should say about that show that was really moving is we really, you know, I tried to, I went into that show wanting to have a really open discussion about race and setting example of how white people like me should start, should, should approach this subject. And I wanted to have a really open discussion with Eddie about this, but I wanted me to be open. I didn't want to come on to the show with, uh, with, uh, how,

how do you put this? I wanted to have an open thing and I want to send an example to people of listening, I suppose. So what was really great about any show is I got a lot of feedback from people. I had people feeding back to me on LinkedIn and other, and other, uh,

social networks. And they were like, Hey man, I saw your show with Eddie Glaude Jr. in the book Begin Again, and I'm white, and I was really moved by the discussion you had. I was really blown away. And it made me really rethink a lot of things that I have, a lot of biases I have. It made me rethink.

But part of it was watching you with Eddie talk about issues of race and these difficult issues that are, are hard to talk about. They're hard to face. They're hard to, you know, you know, come to realization that manifest destiny and all the ugly things that we did as a white people for the last 400 years. Um, and, but, but the way we had the discussion of people learned a lot from that and that really moved me and motivated me. And again, I think Eddie for coming on, because it's one of those things where you don't, I don't even think Eddie is like, I'm just going to do a podcast talking about my book and I'm on TV all the time. And I hope Eddie knows he moved a lot of people with that show. And, uh, and, and sometimes it's those things.

Like I talk about Bobby Kennedy, you know, those tiny tidal waves that you take and do that, that move the world, those currents of those ripples of, of hope. Um, so that was really a great thing to have with that show and everything else. Uh, moving on, we had a digital renaissance with joel waldfogen um and uh on it he talks about digitization and different things of uh of you know how it's impacted our society what data economics tell us about the future of popular culture and its effect on popular culture and what we're doing in it. Great discussion, brilliant discussion. And he came on and talked about his stuff with his book.

Check it out on the show. My apologies, I don't remember much from it. But notwithstanding, he was a great author and a great person to have on the show. I definitely highly recommend it as a try and find our next guest. The next guest. The next guest we had on the show was the author of Social Selling, and he's done a number of books. And his name is Tim Hughes. He's also a good friend of mine.

He's one of my friends who's been a friend of mine for a lot of years on the Chris Voss show networks and stuff, and always kind of known him, and finally got around to having him on the show. Brilliant author, brilliant on social media, brilliant on what's going on. I would highly recommend you check out his stuff as well. Next up, we have Lean AI, Lomit Patel on the show. How innovative startups use artificial intelligence to grow. This is a really geeky conversation about AI, but it was really interesting to discover how it's used on our phones, how it's used in social media, and everything else.

And definitely check that out, Lean AI. The Mindful Millionaire with Lisa Peterson we had on the show. This is a great thing. Overcoming scarcity, experience true prosperity, and create the life you really want. This is a kind of talk about finance we did. Really impressed with that show and author. And she gives you lots of different tips on how to manage your money and everything else. Next up, we have The Age of Influence with Neal Schaefer.

Neal has been a friend of mine, once again. You've seen a lot of friends in here, for like 10 years. He's written a lot of good social media books. Brilliant guy. What's funny was we just talked about stuff. In fact, we even made some disclosures on my future book and shared a lot of notes and stuff on what's going on with the age of influence and what's going on with social media and what's going on with marketing in our world, everything else. Check out Neil. He's a brilliant guy.

I just love everything he does. Always really great stuff. Next up on the show, we had a gentleman. We had two gentlemen on that are friends of mine that I'll get to here in a bit as we round out this show. But the book was called Vital, A Torch for Your Social Justice Journey. And the author was Kyle C. Ashley. And we had Kyle on with another one of my good friends, and we talked about inclusivity.

We talked about, I'm going to go, I got to go dig up the other book to finish that conversation. But what was really interesting about Vital was Vital talked about male toxicity, inclusivity, and how we're raised as men and our expectations or what we're programmed to think of what is the concept of men. And so you may want to check out that book, Vital, A Torch for Your Social Justice Journey, especially if you're a man, I'd recommend it. Because, you know, there's a lot of stuff we got taught as we were growing up that's kind of like BS. We probably should not do that anymore, all those different things. And the perceptions we have of what define us as a man. Next up we have on the show, this gal was great to have on the show. Wonderful, brilliant.

Power Moves by Lauren McGooden. She's the founder and CEO of Career Contessa. How women can pivot, reboot, and build a career purpose. I really had fun talking with her. It was a kind of an episode probably geared towards a lot of women if a lot of women want to check that out. She's written, I think, a couple other books. She's got a huge consultancy and advice on what she does. I believe she has a giant Instagram and just a huge community that she has built with support for women, how they can be better, supporting their careers, their life, how they can balance everything. Brilliant discussion with her, just really insightful. And I definitely follow her.

I mean, I really have a lot of respect for what she was putting forth and the community that she's built. It's a huge community. I think they have a giant email list, if I recall correctly, and just social media, and they're just rocking it. And this is really good because I believe in communities and people that need support and everything. And there's probably a lot some men can learn.

So we should put that in there as well. Not only from how to deal with women in the workplace, because I think we talked about some of that, but also it's a success sort of thing that she does. So you can learn some stuff from that and utilize that in your own life. Let's go down the line here. Kings County novel by David Goodwillie. I got to tell you, we had David Goodwillie on the show.

I had a lot of fun with David. David was super confident in his show. I really liked having him. It was really nice to talk to. I hadn't got a chance to read his book except maybe a chapter or two. And, uh, we wrapped through it and talked about the book. The beautiful, the book is beautiful. It, uh, it's basically a love letter to New York city and a much better time than what we're living in with 2020. Uh, and he's written a number of great

books. So you may want to check him out he's one author that i really enjoyed having on the show and conversing with and probably just sitting like he's one of those authors i could probably just rap with forever most of the authors that i've had on the show i could probably rap forever but then they're like why am i talking to this idiot he was a lot of fun to have on the show and and i'd highly recommend his books king's county a novel check it out uh this is another great author that I had a lot of fun with on the show, and she's just a great personality. I follow her on Instagram.

I think I'm friends with her on Facebook or some other places. Stephanie K. Johnson, Ph.D., and she wrote the book called Inclusify, The Power of Uniqueness and Belonging to Build Innovative Teams. Inclusify the power of uniqueness and belonging to build innovative teams. She is an inclusive, inclusive, inclusivity. She's one of these people that work with companies to, you know, help establish inclusivity agents or people that work there. And what she does is she helps make sure that they, um, I will make sure that they, you know, do it right. And of course, you know, the foundation for that and making sure there's balance there,

making sure everyone feels welcome, regardless of race, sexual orientation, uh, just everyone feels like they're a part of, of that community and a place. And, and there's an agent in charge of that, et cetera, et cetera. Great discussion that we had. And what was nice is this fit the whole frame of what we were dealing with this year with Black Lives Matter and racism and George Floyd and everything else. And so we got a chance to address these social issues and talk about them on the show. And hopefully we changed some minds, educated some people, and enlightened some people down the road. Check out her book.

She's a really sweet, brilliant person. Really smart. I love smart people. And I, you know, we had smart people on the show and I can't think of anybody on. It was dumb, except for me. I was a dumb guy. I play the, I play the dumb straight guy. Um, but everyone comes on and just makes everything look like magic. So anyway, check out our show and learn more about exclusion, inclusion, and, you know, I think we talked some more about bias, unconscious bias, things of that nature, which is important for people to address, especially in today's day and age. The Code of Capital by Katerina Pistor, How the Law Creates Wealth and Inequality. This is something I've known about for some time. I've always been familiar with the Federal Reserve.

I've been familiar with offshore accounts, the Panama Papers, what goes on between Swiss bank accounts and between things in the Virgin Islands and the offshore funds where people hide their money, the different tax schemes, trusts, et cetera etc., etc. She really pulls the cover off of all this stuff, and maybe a lot of you don't collect it like I do, but she really shows how the ultra-rich and the ultra-powerful in this country and around the world use these tax havens and use the law so they're not doing anything illegal to create wealth and inequality and keep more of it for themselves, keep it less taxable, but also, you know,

make it so they avoid taxes. So you end up with a tax burden. You know, you hear about this all the time. You know, like recently Kushner set up a private shell company offshore, and they funneled like $600 million of the campaign funds into it. This is what happens in these sort of things. So she does a brilliant job talking about that and how they're used. And basically talks about the format that, you know, a lot of people can't hire, you know, a team of attorneys to go through their taxes and figure out all their loopholes and savings. So they just get screwed. Um, and welcome to America. So she exposes all this brilliant and intelligent discussion. Uh, highly recommend you check out her. If you definitely want to learn a lot of good stuff.

Uh, next up on the show, we had a really great gentleman, this guy, Ken Rusk. I really enjoyed having this guy. This guy is a CEO of his own companies. He wrote a book called Blue Collar Cash. Love your work, secure your future, and find happiness for life. You know, you see a lot of people that write books that are like, hey, become a white collar CEO or do a startup and be a CEO and be an elitist, you know, that sort of thing. He really believes in starting Blue Collar Cash. And this is one of the few CEOs that walks his talk where he helps uplift his employees. He gives them long-term goals, long-term visions with his companies. And he really gives back just really extraordinary stories from him and a vision from him.

And he's focused in the blue collar sort of industry. And there is a lot of money and blue card isn't going away. It's going places. And, uh, yeah, it's gonna, it's, it's, there's always going to be need. You're always going to need a plumber. You're always going to need an air conditioning guy. You're always going to need someone to fix your car. Um, you know, blue collar did not go away. In fact, if anything, it makes the world go around when you think about it. And so he talks about how you can still be successful in that industry, uh, and how you can be a successful CEO and address that to your employees. Um, I, you know, I just really loved it. Next up this, this was an author that I didn't think was going to be really popular. He wrote the, uh, designing for behavioral

change, applying psychology and behavioral analytics, uh, or economics, I should say. And, uh, he wrote this book, Steven Wendell, we had him on the show and, uh, he talks about how, you know, designing apps or products, different things, webs, websites, everything designing to get behavior out of them, even like social networks and stuff. And I've got to tell you, the discussion we had was brilliant. You don't realize how much thought process goes into putting together all this stuff to present to you to get you to pull out your wallet and buy or get engaged from an addictive sort of thing, whether it's

gamification in games or some sort of other thing. But he talks about it and had a brilliant discussion. One thing I was really surprised about was it got really great hits on LinkedIn and different places. People love the shit out of it. So evidently, we still have a tech nerd audience to love that sort of stuff when it comes to designing. So it was great to have him on the show. Next up on the show, this was, I was really excited to have her on the show. She was so much fun. Jill Weinbakes, the Watergate girl. You

probably saw her a lot on MSNBC and NBC probably during the impeachment trial she was on and she was one of the original attorneys during the Nixon impeachment she wrote the book with the Watergate girl my fight for truth and justice against the criminal president and it was a great discussion to have with her just really mind-blowing especially I think this was shortly after the impeachment trial or during it or in the lead up. But really, just a, what's the word I'm looking for? She is a, I can't think of the right word. But basically, when it comes to America and people who are involved with some of the great historical moments of this country, she is a statue or a pillar, I think maybe the words I'm looking for,

to justice and what goes on. And the stories that she has are incredible. They will blow your mind. It was a great read. I think I read the book in a day or two because I couldn't put it down. She goes through an incredible journey, but she also deals with a lot of things that she had to deal with in the seventies about sexism and, uh, being single. She was divorced at one time. And so being divorced and, you know, in a, in the seventies

wasn't the funnest thing. And of course you're, she was working in different avenues of the government. Um, brilliant story, brilliant story. Get the book, read it. Not only that she was just a warm, friendly, fun guest to have on. Uh, she's one of those people, again, I could talk to for hours, uh, and shoot the shit with, and just, just, just a fun, wonderful, great guest, uh, to have on just, uh, had a blast with her. In fact, I think the show was like an hour and a half or something. It was like, I was like, uh, you know, she, she eventually, you know, she's got things to do, man. So let the guests go, Chris. But she was fun.

She was just fun. Next up on the show, we had Irrationality, Justin E.H. Smith, A History of the Dark Side of Reason. This was an interesting road to go down with on how we we uh reason with things irrationality and everything else great book great discussion i really should go back and listen to that show and uh just just a great thing on the thought process and why we choose what happens conspiracy theories all that sort of uh interesting stuff uh let's see next up on the show uh we had uh max borges and i've worked with the max borges agency for i think almost 10 years now um they send us review units they're they're a huge pr company that works with mainly technology and they have agents and and they

you know promote them and all that good stuff so we've been reviewing them for a lot of years and it came up that he had a book and it was called how to be fan fucking task it that's actually the name of the book how to be fan fucking task tastic and uh so he wrote this book and i was like well you know we know him they've always been in a great company to us let's have him on the show. It's a fun book. You can take and read very quickly. But it's got a lot of his great ideas and how he built this company. And we had a lot of fun on the show. We talked about how he built the company and kind of some of his ideas behind being a CEO and what he did with them.

And, yeah, just a really great time with him. Great guy. Great insights. And i think you'll love that show uh next up we had life on mars with david weintraub a weintraub and this was kind of interesting life on mars what we need to know before we go this was kind of interesting because we talked about you know why do we want to go to Mars? We talked about Elon Musk, talked about planets. We had a lot of fun moments, too. I had some jokes for him that went off really well. But we also talked, there's an efficacy or an ethical sort of approach to should we really go to Mars? It's kind of one of those discussions about why you shouldn't bother you know aboriginal tribes and like brazil that

have never seen the outside world and still live the way they did in almost caveman times um or why you shouldn't maybe interact with animals in the wild because you're disturbing their thing and you're bringing uh humanity into it and maybe you shouldn't and the same sort of approach discussion we had about mars i mean should humans really go to Mars? Because God knows what we're going to do. What we do with everything else, we fuck it up and pollute it and then destroy it. So good job, humanity. So there was that.

Fun discussion with him. Really brilliant. And, yeah, I love to have him on the show. Great discussion and a lot of insight the stuff I didn't even think about I'm just like yeah let's go to Mars let's do that Martian thing we even talked about the Martian movie

and if even any of that crap is possible and so I think you'll get a lot of insights if you watch that show and everything else last up I think we're going to do on the show is we're going to talk about as a city on a hill. This is a really important show that fit into the James Baldwin discussions, racism, uh, manifest destiny, uh, George Floyd, all the different things that are going on this year.

Uh, this gentleman written a book, Daniel T Rogers as a city on a hill, the story of America's most famously sermon. Uh, this is a really cool discussion to of America's most famous lay sermon. This is a really cool discussion to have. And I learned a lot. I learned a lot about Reagan because Reagan was the one who made this thing hugely freaking popular. And he did it for a political aspect and why he did it. It's important.

And why it's contributed to this manifest destiny, this exceptionalism of America, where we go, we're the greatest. Great. It also talks about how it contributed to the destruction of Native Americans, how it distributed to racism, slavery, all the horrible things that we did as a nation. This is one of the pillars that it was built on as a city on a hill. He talks about some of the myths behind it and some of the reality behind it and why it got so popular, and we break it down, basically,

and tell the original story. So that was that. That was that. So I'm going to stop here. We still have a ton of books to go through. Jim Sciutto's book from CNN we'll feature on the next one. A Russian author from Ukraine who wrote about Russia, different things.

There's going to be a whole mess of stuff we're going to get into. So I'm going to put this on to a part two next that we're going to move to. And we'll just do as many shows as it takes, probably about almost an hour at a time, until we get through everyone that we talk to all year. So please download the show. Give it some love, give it some support, share it at the show, subscribe to it, and make sure you subscribe for this next year. You're going to love the guests we have on. Anyway, thanks for tuning in, guys.

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