The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Actor Daniel Baldwin on Loaded Deck Movie, iShook.com and Crypto Token Movie Funding’s New Frontier

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

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we have an amazing show today. We have some returning guests from a future upcoming movie that's currently being plotted and using technology like NFTs and other things to be successful and market itself and, of course, raise funds. We're going to be talking with the cast and crew of Loaded Deck today. And Aishuk, one of the technologies that's behind it and everything else that goes into it. We also have one of the stars of the upcoming movie, Daniel Baldwin, on the show. I'm sure you've heard of him. He's an American actor with probably, I didn't get a chance to count all of his movies on IMDb, but probably hundreds

of different movies. And of course, he's part of the famous Baldwin Brothers clan. We've all seen them and known them and laughed and just engaged with them in movies and acting and careers and all the stuff that they do. So we'll get into that. Welcome to the show, everyone. We've got Daniel Baldwin on the show, Jared Vineyard, and Benny from iShook. How is everyone today? All right.

All right, everyone just kind of calm down a little bit for me. Just hold back a little bit. I know you're excited to be here. But welcome, everyone. It's Tuesday morning, or at least it is in my world. So let's go around the circle. You know, you come to my house, you have breakfast. I'm up at 4. I'm in the gym at 4.30.

I come home. I make my children their smoothies. I make their lunches. I drive them both to school. And then I'm a husband and a father, and occasionally I make a movie. I have no sites for you to come to. I have no dot coms. I don't have any of that. I have an Instagram thing called The Daniel Baldwin. You can message me there.

I want to put an end to a terrifying, vicious rumor. Have you ever really actually live seen more than one of the Baldwin brothers in the same room? See, I think it's the same guy. He just gets fatter. He gets skinnier. He changes his hair color. I think it's all the same guy. I think this is a ruse. I don't think there's really an Alec or a Billy or a Steven. There's only

me. There's my picture. I've heard this rumor before. I've heard this as a rumor. You never see all the Baldwin's in the same room at the same time. That's right. But it's good to know that you are the center of that universe, Daniel. In my mind, yes. What do your brothers feel about that?

You know, it's funny. We're the sons of a school teacher, my dad and my mom, a housewife, who taught for a little while. So I think the more interesting and breaking the odds thing about the four of us is that one in 2,500 actors in Los Angeles County is able to make a living off their acting without having to subsidize their income with some other profession, waiting on tables, bartending, whatever it may be. So if you look at any actor that's been fortunate enough to make a living acting without having

to do something else, the odds are pretty disparaging against you. When you add to the fact that there's four siblings that are able to break those odds, I think that makes it even more interesting and longer odds. But the most important factor behind that is my last name isn't Sheen. My last name isn't Carradine or Barrymore or Cusack. Where you had generational

people before you that opened the door for you. Alec and I were picking our nose and we were driving around New York City and he went out to L.A. And, you know, we both kind of went out there. He definitely made a first. He's older than I am.

As my other two brothers, you know, kind of got involved in the fray, all of us pretty close to the same time. But Alec started the ball rolling. I think that's the odd thing is that our last name, our parents or an uncle or a cousin wasn't involved in the business first, which would have made it a lot easier. But no, it wasn't that way. We had to kind of pound the beat. You know, the four Irish thug Baldwin brothers trying to make it as actors.

But I can remember coming off the football field in high school and my friends saying, hey, we're going to go have a beer. Do you want to come? And I said, no, I have rehearsal. I'm going to play right now. And they'd say, what, are you going to be an actress, Baldy? Come on, huh?

You ain't going to make it? What are you talking about? What are you, Marlon Brando, Baldwin? Well, I hate to say that going to the 10-year reunion wasn't fun because I got to see a lot of those guys. It's been an interesting ride. It's been a really interesting ride, a lot of fun. So basically the four Baldwin brothers are cornering the market in Hollywood and stealing all the good jobs then.

Is that what's going on, it sounds like? You know, 25 years ago, that might have been the fact. We're getting a little long in the tooth now. I'm 62 years old. When I was in that conversation, which was briefly, but Alex certainly has had a much bigger movie career than any Billy Steven or I. And even he, he's 63, coming up on 64. No, he's 65.

Anyway, if he'd stop it, I think he's got enough kids now. He's got his hands full. He keeps knocking kids out. I mean, it's crazy. Him and his beautiful wife, Hilaria, kid after kid after kid. I mean, he hasn't slowed down in that department, that's for sure. Yeah. Well, he still has to catch up to that one guy who's married to that famous singer. I forget his

name, but he's propagating pretty well. He's got a lot of kids. He's got franchises setting up everywhere. So there you go. Well, Daniel, it's good to hear. Nothing like a good sperm count, I always say. There you go. Hey, you still got it, man. Good for him, right? I remember

a cat who was the actor who was in The Odd Couple? I think he had a kid at 76 or something. Is that Pat Lauer? No, the second version of The Odd Couple, I guess, in the 70s. Tony Randall? Tony Randall, yeah. He had a kid at 76. I was like, good for him.

God damn. Now, was his wife 74? no I think she was in her 30s that was the other reason I said good for him so there's that so it's wonderful you're on the show Daniel let's go around the room the other.com so we can get the plugs in there

Benny Jack alright well keep on promoting the Loaded Deck one, so loadeddeckmovie.com. Go check that out. Put some updates on there with the movie and the comic book as well.

That's under this IP and stuff that we're putting together. The first one is out available that you can go find on Amazon. The printed ones, Benny will talk about when the printed versions and stuff will come out. And then, yeah, starting to work on the next one, which will have Daniel's character and stuff in it. But, yeah, keep on.

There you go. What do you got? What do you got, Benny? And, Benny, give us the final plug. Yeah, final plug is going to be MegaMoviesNFT.com, which is going to come out at the end of this month of February. It's going to be the point of a place where people can get their movies funded in the crypto industry. We have over maybe 100 million users in that industry. Plenty of funding available.

And why fund in a trading platform when you can actually fund in products that actually work? There's no better product than the film industry. It's entertainment. Everybody wants entertainment. And that's where we're coming out to for the future. And then we have the comic book, which is available on Kindle. That's our first issue. We're going to be hitting a lot more issues with a lot more likenesses of all the players of the movie. And we believe that every movie should have some sort of following.

And graphic comics and comics themselves are a huge thing right now. And if you look at Netflix, almost every other show is a graphic novel into an anime. And that's the biggest thing here, that you can have your ideas, that you can have your likeness as an actor in a comic and then eventually an anime and, you know, and you still making the same monies hopefully. So that's, that's the,

that's the, that's, that's the plug that we got here. And I shook, there you go. So loaded deck movie.com. Uh, we talked with Kevin Sorbo a couple months ago about the show.

Uh, Daniel's in it as well. Uh, let's talk about what, what, what type of movie is this? Uh, what's working and, and, and Sorbo a couple months ago about the show. Daniel's in it as well. Let's talk about what type of movie is this, what's working, and what's everyone doing that's involved? Yeah, so it's a crime movie. You've got a little amalgam sort of thing, an action comedy, where you're basically taking a character who belongs in a romantic comedy, something real sweet and stuff,

should be going and falling in love with a girl. Instead he's thrown into like a Tarantino kind of movie. So it's a fun film. You know, Daniel's kind of the big bad that's looming over the whole movie, the crime boss of the thing that that's looming over the the whole movie the crime boss of the of the thing that everybody's terrified of um and uh you know putting together a crew to basically try to figure out a way to take down uh so there you go daniel what uh drew you to the movie well one of the things that i like when you play a character, this is exactly what Benny was talking about earlier.

The future, and not that this has never been done, but it should be done on most movies. And that is you should turn your characters into comic characters, too. You should turn them into comic strip. You should turn it into an animated film. You know, so I have a chance to play Big Deal, who's, when you mention his name, people quake in his path. You know, they're really worried about

when this guy shows up, bodies start getting counted. You know, he has that capability. Not just, you know, himself. He's way past that. He's the guy that points a finger and that person just disappears. And all of, you know, himself. He's way past that. He's the guy that points a finger and that person just disappears. And all of, you know, if you want to go to a Superman syndrome, all of Metropolis knows it. He's that big.

You know, I mean, they quake. They quake in his path. So the idea to play a guy that's that kind of power, I'll remember a very famous actor, Chris Walken, was working with another guy at, I think it was at the Actor's Studios like 30 years ago. And he said to him, he said, the kid, the line for the kid was, have the money at three o'clock or else you're dead. And so we get to that part in the scene. And he says, you have the fucking money at 3 or you're fucking dead. You're dead. And we're screaming at him.

So we get done doing the scene and Walker looks at him and says, what are you so afraid of? To the guy that had the power that was going to kill. To the guy who was big deal. And he said, let's switch roles for a minute. And we kind of all looked at each other and he went, he's going to take his role and read his line, read him right now. I was like, wow. And when we got to that part,

Walken went off on this thing about, you know, you know, Tommy, I knew your father. He was my friend. He's the one that got me in the business. And he leans down and he starts picking the lint off his peacoat. And he says, don't make me do this, Tommy. If you don't have the money at 3 o'clock, you know what's going to happen. And we finished the scene.

And he looked at him and he said, that guy is going to kill you at 3.01 p.m. Because it doesn't bother him. He doesn't have to. And if you shoot that with the camera really close and he looks at you and goes, or else 3 o'clock, Tommy, please don't make me do that. That guy's so much more frightening than the guy that's screaming. What are you screaming about? You're dead.

I want to play that guy. I want to play big deal that just looks at you, looks at his friend, and goes, didn't have the money. He's gone. Next. Yeah. And there's a twist. There's a twist to motivation and stuff that you don't know. I don't know

if these men want to announce or talk about. I'm not going to. But there may be an unknown surprise reason for a lot of this that Big Deal does. But sorry, you're going to have to buy a ticket to get that. There you go. So you're the boss, basically? The bad, bad guy?

I'm the Teflon Don, baby. I'm John Gotti. Teflon Don. There you go. Teflon Don. You know, I'm trying to think of the quote, but there's like a, you know, danger is implied or basically, you know, I mean, if you look at people like Putin, you know, I mean, Putin doesn't have to walk around being a bully. He can just he kind of comes across as someone you wouldn't even, you know, and the original Godfathers and stuff that ran the mob. I think they were.

It was KGB says it all. I mean. Yeah. They didn't walk around New York City, you know, bowling people over. They just were these quiet types and, you know. And then if you pissed them off, you know, you end up in the trunk of a car.

Well, the real scary guys don't ever actually get their hands dirty anymore. Yeah. But if they work their way up through those ranks, chances are their hands were extremely, extremely dirty to get to those positions in certain organized crimes. Yeah. I'm one of those people who can make stuff disappear without throwing a fit or anything, but it's mostly cheesecake that disappears. There's that so you guys one of the things you guys are doing is you're trying to raise money uh through technology and some of the new technology that's out there i believe nft and some other things uh who wants

to talk about that i'll just throw it out to uh anyone yeah i mean uh yeah so the nft world is is becoming very very popular uh but there is a fluctuation in value. So a lot of NFTs that have been bought as art, I mean, art is a very difficult thing to sell as NFT. I mean, the market has shown it. People put $300,000 on an art that you barely can sell for a dollar. Who wants this virtual art?

There's no tangibility, which is funny, Chris, when we mentioned in the last podcast about tangibility with NFTs, now there's actually NFTs that are announcing tangibilities. It's interesting how we're trendsetting. Our discussions are being, you know, listened to by other peoples. And tangibility is so important. We're going to be taking even further of tangibility. Our idea is not just tangibility.

It's let's get the NFTs to actually have real-time market value. So a movie is a real-time market value. And to have individuals invest on a movie is so much more than that debacle what happened with SBF and FTX, where that person was utilizing the funds of people for improper uses. I mean, he was just buying and investing all over the world and bought, I'm not going to say what politicians he bought, but he bought a lot of politicians. He bought everything. He had arenas. Yeah, arenas.

This guy went crazy. Tom Brady. And then you have Bill, what's his name? Mr. Wonderful. So our idea is let's establish where people can actually invest in a product. There's no greater content. And the ultimate content, the biggest content you're ever going to produce is a movie, right? So why not create a real movie? I mean, I know there were a few announcements in the crypto world about NFTs in a movie,

but I think this is probably going to be the first real movie on an NFT. I mean, yeah, basically the movie will be the NFT. And, you know, and that's where we're going to be able to get a lot of production. And who knows, this movie can get funded maybe 50 to 100 percent to 200 percent more than expected. And I think it's possible, very possible. Because if you show the crypto industry and the traders and say, listen, why trade when you're going to get X amount? And you can put an NFT here and you'll get much more return. You can't get better than that.

And the crypto world is something that you have a reach, really. You're not going to investors. How many VCs, how many investors can you really go to for a movie? I mean, honestly, how many production companies can you really go to? Here, you have a global reach. You can have a guy sitting in his computer trading $100,000, $200,000 a day, and he can say, listen, Benny, here's $20,000, here's $30,000. I want to be part of this NFT movie.

And there's value in the movie because the movie globally, how can a movie not make its profits globally? I mean, every movie makes it. You've got to be a really messed up movie to go negative. And by the way, you know which movies are going negative? All those big $100 million, $200 million movies, they have a more risk of getting negative sales than positive sales. But when you have a good budget film, all you have is to go up. You have nothing to lose at the end of the game. That's my point of view, and that's why we're doing NFTs and the way we're doing it.

I think it's pretty brilliant. I mean, I know Hollywood movies, there's a lot of great probably plots and stories that never get told because they just can't get the funding. And so when you live in L.Allywood your people are just constantly i remember going to parties in in hollywood and you know everyone's got a script i was like the only guy i didn't have a script and i'd like make up scripts and i'd be like well we're talking right now with uh uh you know uh you know i just make up like actors and people would just be like what the fuck kind of movie is going on over there and i just make up some and people would just be like, what the fuck kind of movie is going on over there? And I just make up some plot that was just absurd.

But no, it's hard to get funding for these things. So it's interesting you guys are exploring this new concept of putting the movie together, all the actors, the production, and then going out and trying to get it funded through NFTs and technologies

and comic books too as well. Definitely. Definitely. That's really cool. You know, I just, last year I don't know if you saw or what your relationship is in El Salvador because that's the Bitcoin

place you really own. Their currency rolled over from the US dollar now to Bitcoin. And I was contacted by President Bukele to come down and help write new legislation for filmmaking in El Salvador. They'd like to make it a stop

for filmmakers to have an option in Central America. So we should talk when we're done with the show because I have some relationships down there that you would want to know at the place that they're speaking your language. Where are you guys going to film this movie? That's a good question. Most likely we're looking at Atlanta, Savannah, that kind of area, and Georgia.

Take advantage of the tax credits and stuff that they have going on over there. It's pretty heartbeat, Atlanta. Puerto Rico's pretty good, but you've got to travel all the way to Puerto Rico. There's some overseas offers and stuff, too, places that have some good studios and good credits that they'll fly us.

We'll see with our co-production deal that we've got. We might go over to their headquarters. You've got El Salvador right now. I mean, that's awesome. And El Salvador, that'd be a new one. That's a huge opportunity. That's big.

We'll go on location. We'll have a good spot. Is it going to be a period piece or is it going to be current? No, it's pretty current. It's modern. It's kind of its own little world, but it's modern. If you do an El Salvadorian thing, do you have to do a whole sort of Spanish vibe to it? Maybe it's a Spanish mafia or a cartel.

I might be changing the plot. You'd be surprised. There's a lot more Caucasian people down there than you'd think. But certainly when you start driving by street signs and highway signs, I mean, there are certain things you give. And as I explained to the president and his Senate when we wrote the legislation, I said, you have to show them a reason in, let's say, L.A., why they're going to fly down to you, why they're going to incur the cost. Because you've got union stuff that actors have to be flown first class, they have to be put in a five-star hotel, they have to, so

if you're not going to make it 40%, you know what I mean, like, start the conversation with 40% to come down, at least for now, and then have incentives that if the director of photography is Salvadorian, there's 2.5% more. If the writer or director, like

the candidate does, the Canadian must, one of the two are El Salvador, you don't have to do it. You can come down there and get the 40 and walk away. But if you want to incentivize it like Puerto Rico does up to like 50, then you give them criteria to hire Salvadorans to build your film

presence here. And that's what I would do. And so we wrote it all up and it's about to come out soon. He's a smart guy, Bukele. He's looking 10 years, 20 years down the road for El Salvador. He wants to get them out of that reputation they're in now. He's cleaned it up

a lot down there. So, you know, I'm waiting to see what the final thing is. I was down there a few times for weeks at a time, meeting with members of his Senate and finance committees and so on. And hopefully they come up and they do the right thing. If they don't, people come, you know, to Atlanta for sure. I live in Atlanta. So, and I just directed a film here. So I, I, there's quite a bit available in Atlanta too. Yeah. It's, it's really crazy what's going on there. What's the gentleman's name? Tyler? Tyler Perry?

He's built a ton of studios and stuff down there. Oh, no, that's Chick-fil-A owns Trillis Studios. Chick-fil-A? Wow. Yeah. Dan Cathy

owns Chick-fil-A and he owns Trillis Studios, and I went to go meet him on a tour there. I mean, this place is now behind Warner Brothers, the second largest studio in the United States. Wow. It just goes on, and he's building. He's building more.

So, yeah. The only dig, the only hard part about, and in Puerto Rico too, but Puerto Rico's policy is their amount of money available each year is finite. So when you reach that cap, then they roll you over to put you on the schedule for the next year. And the way I heard it is there's not any money available to like the end of 2024. Now they're,

they're all, they're all booked up in Puerto Rico. Whereas Atlanta, I don't think there is a cap. So if you come here, you know, you can incentivize it up to over 40% now here in Atlanta, which that's a big,

when you're going into posts, you know, and they're writing you a check like Canada used to, thanks for shopping Canada. Here's a million five. you know, I mean, it's pretty helpful. Yeah, there you go. That helps with money and funding and everything else. What else do we need to talk about, guys, to push the movie? Do we want to talk about iShook at all?

I know you do that, Benny. Yeah, definitely. I mean, the whole thing is the world is changing, right? We know the world's changing. Like we said before in the green room about chat GBT, right? So the AI technology is definitely changing and you're going to have a lot more content being distributed and produced due to the AI tech. And that itself, I think, is very vital that the movie industry, and I think the movie industry is going to lag because we had the same problem when we created our e-book app, iShook app, which is an e-book app. And we had the same problem with the book industry, where the book industry, it's very difficult for them to kind of get into the technology.

And that was back in 2015 and 2014. So it took them a while to get into the e-book industry. And now what's happening now, there is a reverse in the book industry where Barnes & Noble and the new CEO of Barnes & Noble is actually building and renting out new Barnes & Noble sites. And he's actually put Barnes & Noble from bankruptcy to a plus and surplus in their profit margins, which is unbelievable. But at the same time, you see HBO and the announcements of these bigger companies, they want to roll back streaming.

So they're trying to go away from technology, it seems to be, which I think is should charge premium on movies if you have access to your home and make it cheaper to go to the theaters. Therefore, you balance out the sheet and you say, okay, listen, we'll give you the streaming, but you'll pay for that luxury. But if you go to the movie theater, you'll pay for the basic amount. So I think what's happening is that movie industry is doing this on purpose potentially in order to choose the stories they want to tell. And I think that's a big mistake because the movie industry was not about choosing

the stories you want to tell. It's about everybody has the ability to tell his story. And that's the main thing that we want to, you know, that we feel is important. Yeah, definitely. That's the way thing that we feel is important. Yeah, definitely. That's the way I look at it.

So our goal is to actually have as many people as possible into the film industry to create access to real live ability to create their own movie, their own content. And that's what happened with Jared. We met in what was it called? Connectpreneur. So I heard his pitch. I got my pitch out there. And I said, I got to connect with Jared. And we connected and we're working on this for like a year already in order to get this done properly.

And we also have to ride the wave. The main thing have to we have to we have to ride the wave the main thing is the crypto industry you got to ride the wave yeah you have you have in the crypto industry where you lose and you gain sometimes you lose sometimes you gain and you have cold spells of the crypto industry which we call you know the bear market and you have the non-bear markets so we got to wait right now bitcoin is going is going up. That's huge. And Mr. Baldwin said about El Salvador. That's, by the way, that's crypto land right there. El Salvador is crypto land. I mean, he did something no other country was able to do with Bitcoin.

That's huge. Russia tried to do that with Bitcoin. It didn't work. So what about ChatGPT? I mean, is this going to replace all my friends who write books and do content writing for marketing? They're all freaking out. They think

ChatGPT is going to take them out of jobs. Could this affect screenwriters and stuff? It could definitely affect screenwriters, but what I do think where Chad GPT will have a minus, because

Chad GPT is an AI, it's predictive artificial intelligence. What it means predictive is, let's say you give it a certain sentence, and that will give you a predictive writing. And then that writing itself, each and every sentence is predictive. It's not an artificial intelligence which is thinking on its own.

We're not getting Terminator-level style from chat. That's for sure not happening. AI's never going to be able to tell stories. Right, so that's the thing. AI cannot be creative. The AI technology is not a creative technology where it can create its own storyline. But it definitely can do – I'll be honest with you. I put on chat – I have access to the chat GPT.

I have access to a few AI technologies. And I put – I said – I told you actually, please do a promo for iShook. Yeah, it did like – it did a promo for iShook. And it's exactly to what iShook was doing in the e-book world. So it did a promo for the iShook as the iShook app, and it does it. I'm sure if I put anyone else's name here in ChatGPT, it'll write an article. If I put in ChatGPT, tell me the best movies Daniel Baldwin made, it's going to give me a whole article about it. It's unbelievable, this program and this intelligence.

And I can even say, Chris Voss, tell me how many podcasts Chris Voss has done already. Boom, it's going to give me a number. I better be able to search that. Yeah. It's like in the thousands. I mean, it might write, I don't know, maybe it would write better script. You know, the thing, I had an acting and modeling agency in Utah during Touched by an Angel. So we'd send a lot of extras to Touched by an Angel.

And Utah was like one of those places that was right after one of the big writers strikes, I think, or production strikes. And I got to sit and watch auditions. And you would literally have like, you know, hundreds of actors and actresses rolling through and then, you know, they'd read the lines and you just, you wouldn't feel anything about it.

And then you have spectacular, uh, actors and actresses like Daniel that come in and they would just drop, you know, what he was talking about earlier with, um, the other, the other actor would just drop these, put the emotion behind it and the character behind it and literally breathe life into those lines.

And so, yeah, Chad GPT can write, you know, text, but it can't act. It can't put that human experience into it and storytelling. At the same time, right now, Chad GPT, in more of a technical term, they said has about 100 million predictive, I guess, predictive writing capability. I mean, but they're saying by next year, especially with Microsoft's $10 billion infusion into Chad GPT, we're talking about close to maybe 100 trillion. It's going to be to $100 trillion predictive writing. Can you, I think it would be really interesting for the audience for you to explain predictive writing. What does that mean?

Okay, so let's say I give you, you give me a sentence, right? Any sentence. Say, I want to know, I want to know, write for me a Quentin Tarantino type of script, about a thousand pages. I want a know, write for me a Quentin Tarantino type of script, about a thousand pages. I want a one page.

Please send me out. So he already has, Chad GBT as an AI, already has that information of Quentin Tarantino. He has access to the way he writes. He will now write a script of him. Of course, you got to give it subject. You got to give it more juice into what I'm saying. I'm just trying to make it short. But it will now start writing because it has the Quentin Tarantino instruction, because I'm going to write in his style.

And now it's going to start writing sentence after sentence after sentence. So as it writes its first sentence, it already will predict what the second sentence should be. So if I say I want to write I want to have these two actors or these two plays of these two individual subjects in the script argue with each other. And what should they argue about? They should argue about the type of Coca-Cola they drank.

Is it Pepsi? Is it Coke? Whatever it is, right? And now it will create a predictive argument based on, let's say, a potential argument that already exists in Bing or in Google. I mean, it's literally endless because sentence after sentence can be predicted. It's like sometimes you have these, you know, in the movies, right? They say you have these boyfriend and girlfriend and they can finish each other's sentences. That's a predictive type of writing. So it knows within

itself how to predictively say okay this has got to be the next sentence because this is the story line we're going through you know the the thing still though to me it some of the greatest lines in movie production in movies have have been improv you know for everything from marlon brando's i could have been a contender and that whole scene Brando's I Could Have Been a Contender and that whole scene. There's a million scenes you could do that were improv'd and ad-libbed. Maybe a little

bit of tweaking. But the delivery of what an actor does or an actress does is extraordinary when it's done. Yeah, that's very true because I remember as I'm sure we all have, I have 10 of these stories and I'm sure you men

have 100 more. There's that great story about Billy Bob Thornton when he did Sling Blade. He kept sending the script out to these studios and these different people and they all went, yeah, Billy, it's great, but there's nothing really special until he walked in the room and he went, some people

calls him a cosplayer, I call him, you know, and you looked at him and you're like, really? Are you going to play him like that? Yes, I'm going to play him. Oh, oh, that's weird. So yeah, you know, when you breathe the life into particularly unusual characters, it

makes all the difference. Amazing, amazing technology that you're talking about. Yeah, you see him in real life. And when someone said, there's Billy Bob Thornton, the guy who played Sling Blade, I was like, no, it's not. That's not. It's unrecognizable. And, yeah.

It doesn't have enough gas in it. Gordon Peterson, by the way, did put on chat GBT like a whole thing. And he said, write another rule to my 12 rules of life. And he gave full instruction. They put out 5000 word chapter on the way he would have wrote a 13th rule that's the scary part of it that you can actually get it to write

depending on the instruction you give it to write something crazy I heard Francis Ford Coppola is putting Godfather 4 in the open maybe he could do it he could probably do it. I'm surprised. It'll be Terminator 2 Skynet. I'll make him an offer he can't refuse

with, I don't know. For sure. I can't wait. So what's the production date anticipation for this movie, or at least what's the shot we're working for, and how can people support it or get involved, et cetera, et cetera?

Yeah, so I mean, the production date will come down to getting the money in place and then we can go off and shoot once we put together the actors' schedules and everything with it. So, it's usually a couple months, two to three months after the budget's in place and getting everybody's schedules in place. We've got a co-production deal that gets us a little over $1.1 million, so somewhere around that range toward the budget. So it gets us a good chunk there. And we're kind of out of the way, so we've got a few people we're kind of chasing down in these couple months going on. So we're hoping to, within the next few months, really get everything in place so we can get shooting. Yeah.

The goal is really as soon as possible. I mean, we're going to definitely push the NFT fundraising. We're going to start getting more following. And it makes it so much easier with the comic book. It makes it so much easier, obviously, with the podcasts that we're doing. It gives more life to what we're doing. And I think most people really want to watch a movie, but they also really want to watch the process of making a movie. I mean, that's really cool.

I mean, almost every show that you watch, they got these extras that show you how was this movie made. And then that itself is getting views and crazy stuff because people want to know about the space. It's a really cool space. Yeah. I believe that when you get that package ready with your deliverables now, they become so much more complicated. I believe there's shows within the movie. I believe

you can live stream and sell tickets. I believe that there's all kinds of stuff to look at now. Multi-level. I know that there was discussion on this film that I just directed that we may have like three packages. There would be

you join and you get access with a camera to kind of watch what's going on you join and you get access and you come and you're an extra in the film or you join and you have access and you and you you get those two plus you're actually speaking in the movie you know or whatever you plateau it you know and obviously the price goes up. And if you can sell, I mean, there's a market for that. Certainly for people to sit when they watch reality television, they watch the many things that they watch. If you could give it to them live to watch what goes on in a movie set,

I think people buy it. I think you could have a network of that going on. I think you just opened my mind right now. We can do an NFT where an individual, he'll pay to be an extra. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. That's it. I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's why I want you to call me

or email. Let's start email me, get my email information because I have some other revenue streams to talk about I think that we could really do through the NFT space. And I have a guy you got to meet in the NFT space. And I have a guy you've got to meet in the NFT space. You're going to want to know this guy.

You two guys think a lot alike. I think you need to know each other. So I've got some stuff to talk to you about. Definitely. Awesome. That's what we do on the show. We bring everyone together and make good deals. That's what we do. That's the Chris Voss Show podcast.

So this is really cool, guys. I mean, I know how hard it is to get movies. I don't fully know how hard it is, but I know a lot of people have tried to raise money for movies, and it's hard. And I think of how many great projects or great stories, great movies that would have been great if they could make it to the funding part. But sadly, I know, I guess, you know, I mean, we need to have Iron Eagle 10. That was important. Sorry, Iron Eagle. That was Gedrick, wasn't it, Jason?

Yeah, he's a great actor. Love Jason. But, you know, can we maybe have just a, you know, I'm always for, I love Hollywood movies where I can't tell what's going on and there's no agenda being shipped to me. You know, I'm not being, I'm not being forced. Like,

you know, give me a multi-plot movie. Give me Godfather. Give me Apocalypse Now. Give me, you know, something that like I still watch because the Godfather came out, what on the 50th anniversary.

I went and watched it in this movie theater because I couldn't. And, uh, go ahead, Dana. I was going to say, you know, I'm, in this movie theater because they couldn't. And go ahead, Daniel. I was going to say, you know, I want to see things that have two rules. They're not afraid. They're not afraid.

So when I started writing, I started projecting. We were two weeks into the pandemic when it started getting bad. My kids were already home from school. I was living at the time in upstate New York. And I started writing a script about the pandemic cops. So I took it five, six strains, you know, 12 years from now, where if you don't, now they've come out with a strain that if you're exposed to it, you're dead in 48 hours. There is no cure. They're trying big pharma to give you stuff that gives you enough time to, you know, whatever.

But now they send guys out that shoot you dead in the street if you don't get the shot. That's how bad they force you. You have no choice anymore. So they sell America on the fact that this shot will stop you from getting it. But if you get it, it's too late. There's no coming back. You're fucking dead. So now because you're a threat being dead to the regular populace

that hasn't had a chance to get the shot yet, guys in black suits, ninja, roll up in your town, bash on your door like, you know, Waco, Texas, and burn you to fucking death. Shoot you, cut your fucking throat. That's what it's coming to. That's what I want to see now I want to see blood and hair everywhere

I want to take it to the upteenth level and I don't want to be afraid that someone's going to knock on my door and go you can't show that Elon Musk's new network can't show that I like stuff that's not afraid to tell an understory

of what's really going on. I mean, where we're heading as a society. We're all going to live in Borneo and smoke weed because we're going to have to leave the U.S. Watch. Yeah. It is, you know, Hollywood has been renowned for being formulaic and repetitive. I mean, I even remember there were jokes. What was the sunset? Was it Sunset Boulevard? there were jokes uh god what was the sunset was

the sunset boulevard there were jokes about how hollywood was repeating back then yeah they need to take more risks and and do more that's where i think most of the oscars and county awards come from is is the real risk that movies are taking and that's what you guys are doing here with the funding you're trying to do something different and hopefully create maybe a new genre or new i don't know if genres that word but a new way of the fun movies and i want to mention one thing that's not just that i mean what what mr baldwin is saying is even more so he's putting a business aspect into the film industry where he's saying they're castrizing castrating all the business the business of of the industry right like like he's thinking an entrepreneurial

perspective it's not just making a movie i gotta make a movie that talks about reality what's going on in the communities here that's huge like people are they stop doing those kind of movies you have all these movies fantasy movies how many fantasy movies can we watch already let's get the real movies that are out there that are going to change people's perspectives of reality already. But let's let you, let's not let, see what you're doing and what I'm interested in, and it is in line with what I want to do. Why don't you

get a menu and pick through the NFTs what films you want to get involved in? That's what we want. Not what Hollywood decides you can put your money in. Exactly. You get a choice. Just like how you want your eggs. You want them with this, no, hold that, this, this, this. Because you like it.

Because you aspire to be or are interested in that. Agreed. Agreed. I would love that. I'm totally hearing it. I would love that, man. That would be awesome. Because, you know, the great democratization, democratization, can I say that?

I was sick yesterday, guys. I apologize. My brain is still out. The great democratization of movies where Amazon is producing movies, Netflix, all these different production companies are now doing movies and getting in the Hollywood game. I mean, there's been some great stuff. Amazon's brought to the table. Apple TV has won a lot of awards recently. So making it so that there's more, you know, more great stories and great opportunities is, I think, just made for better film. For sure.

There you go. So, guys, it's wonderful to have you on the show and have these brilliant discussions. Let's go around the office. Anything more we want to plug out? Anything more we haven't discussed that we want to make sure we get in the camp? No, just, guys, look for us. I mean, megamoviesnft.com.

We're going to have all these ideas that we discussed here today. We're going to do a huge synergy with everyone here. It's going to be awesome, definitely. And like Mr. Baldwin said, that's definitely what we want to do a huge synergy with everyone here it's going to be awesome definitely and like Mr. Baldwin said that's definitely what we want to do that's like a la carte, choose the movie that you like, choose the type of style you want to watch and be part of it

be part of its production that in itself is huge and I'm glad that we were able to have this discussion because as always Chris, you're awesome. You're awesome. You get us to fire up. I love the energy.

The energy is huge, and you need this energy to really change the market. I mean, without good energy, there's no market change. Well, it's good to have great guests on the show, too. Appreciate that. I'm the dumb one. That's why we have guests is so that people bring the show and lighten it up, especially after I was sick yesterday. So give us your dot coms, guys, whatever you want to plug, whatever projects you have going on.

Let's go around the circle and have everyone do their plugs. I'm going to go with – here we go. I'm doing laundry. Check it out. Here, here, here. Is there a dot com for that? Oh, look, your puppy. Oh, look at your puppy.

That's a nice dog. That's beautiful. There, look at your puppy. That's a nice dog. That's a beautiful dog. There's boba.com. There's rufus.com. Wow. That's good. Rufus is 170 pounds, but I haven't bought to the star of the show yet. Crap.

At 215 pounds, there's jethro.com. Holy crap. What's going on, big boy? Got some real dogs here. How you doing there? Those are my boys. I figured I'd throw them in because I got nothing. I got nothing for the end of the show.

There you go. Do we have to send them a check for that? No, no, that was free of charge. But there'll be an NFT that you can buy into the story of the dogs on our new movie set. There you go. Is that Loaded Deck 2? No, that's Loaded Dog at Loaded Deck.

Loaded Dog. I think you have some new cast members for that show. What was that old Tom Hanks movie with the dog? Remember that? Turner and Hooch. Yeah, Turner and Hooch.

I cried. That hurt me. That show hurt me. That was a Bordeaux mask if he was related to these. That thing was huge. Not this big. There you go. It wasn't this big. No.

Jeff Rose is the real deal. He's 200 pounds. 250. That's huge. My husky goes into surgery tomorrow. She's big. She's eight, but she's just getting one of those things cut off or those things are growing on me.

Oh, yeah. This thing's a size of it's a pretty good size. It hid behind her leg, but she's only like 66 pounds. I'm like, holy crap. All right, so let's get the rest of the .coms plugged in here and

we'll round out. Do we got everything in here, Benny? Yeah, we're good, Jared. LoadedDeckMovie.com is like we've been talking about. Going over there and planning that as being the first thing. We just want to make great movies that tell good stories people are into, not trying to push

some sort of agenda on people and, and crap that you're seeing more and more and in movies that are making them bad. Tell great stories, man. That's just it. And,

and great actors and actresses. It's, uh, you know, the, the power, like I said, the power I'd sit all day with,

uh, casting directors watching, uh, actors and actresses edition. And you'd just be like falling asleep you'd just be bored and then that one actor actor actress can come in and just you'll be crying and there's there's no music there's no scene there's no setup it's just the power of them delivering that and and a lot of people don't really get that when it comes to movies and

and acting is how hard it is it's not easy so there you go yeah but you see i just want to add one last thing and this is something really important for the audience to know and and this is an answer if i went in the other room my wife's an attorney and she and i sit and what these men are doing right now is is is answering from an investment standpoint too and also let's face it a lot of guys look at a movie a lot of women and they go man i wish i could do that i wish i could you know why does why does warner brothers or paramount or whoever it is why do they get to make all those cool movies and what they're doing is they're putting this incredible telephone book of opportunity in front of you, not just to fulfill some kind of fantasy to be involved in a film,

but a legitimate way to be involved at a smaller level, a medium level, or a large level in the investment opportunity of film. And so, you know, when you look at what's available, it's dictated by what Amazon wants to put on their site. Remember how many movies go to Amazon, go to Netflix, go in hopes to get the Holy Grail and get listed in their menu. How many don't get on? How many? And I know I've been on that side of this before. This is an opportunity to get your movie made with people that are like-minded in that genre and people that want to invest in film that aren't calling shots that you're not going to have a say in that's revolutionarily different and so man you guys what a great concept guys a great concept yeah i mean i've always thought for years that i really should be the one cast

in most of the bond movies but that's just my opinion and no one else's. So thanks for everyone for coming on the show. I do have to say that when you come back to re-promote the movie, I expect everyone to have the Benny Magnificent beard that we made fun of last show. I'll be lying. I want everyone to have one. All right. Here's the last thought that I want you to take with you. If you removed right now from a distance when you look, if you remove Benny's beard, is he a Jay Leno lookalike or no? He might be. Without the crashing into things, sadly.

I don't got that chin. I don't got that chin. You can't tell. You can't tell. If you have my LinkedIn account, you can tell. Well, there you go. Well, thanks, everyone, for being here. We certainly appreciate you guys coming today.

There you go. Thanks, Ted. Thank you. Thanks, Moniz, for tuning in. Go to YouTube.com, 4ChestChrisFoss, Goodreads.com, 4ChestChrisFoss, and I'll replace on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, all those crazy places the kids are playing. Thanks for being here. Be good to each other. Stay safe, and

we'll see you guys next time. That should have us out.