The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – All Your Best Selves: How the Performing Arts Toolkit Can Help You Thrive Anytime, Any Place and with Anyone by J.J.R. Taylor

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

All Your Best Selves: How the Performing Arts Toolkit Can Help You Thrive Anytime, Any Place and with Anyone by J.J.R. Taylor Amazon.com TBCenterprises.com This book is about a new, yet old, approach to how we all engage with our minds and emotions. Through glimpses of the authors life and performing arts career, we can see how closely life and the performing arts can come together. Enough to display the need for all people, performer and non-performer alike, to use the tools and techniques of the fields of acting and improvisation to live richer and fuller lives. These are tools and techniques developed by masters in the craft of understanding how to take apart and put back together the human mind and emotions in multiple ways. Its effects have been proven profound and transformative on the stage. Yet, behind the scenes of life there have been decades of work and research done. In non-entertainment arenas such as education, therapy, the prison system, and children with ASD, parts of the dramatic method have proven to have made a difference and helped in all groups. This isn't about performing, this is about presence, about how we grow and develop our mind and emotions. Mnemonic methods are discussed and how they benefit the actor and non-actor alike. The work of three masters, K. Stanislavski, S. Meisner and U. Hagen are broken down to display how they work in the arenas of acting, then how they can be use by the reader to grow and develop themselves in life. Improvisation is looked at and how powerful it's simple games can be. This is a book about all of us and what we can grow into be, if we chose to use the time tested tools we already have.

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We're going to be talking about his hot new book that he's put out that can help make your life better. It's called All Your Best Selves, How the Performing Arts Toolkit can help you thrive anytime, any place, and with anyone. Out March 15th, 2022, J.R.R. Taylor is the author of the show. We're gonna be talking with him today about his insights, or otherwise known as Jim Rojas Taylor, that we'll be chatting with.

And we're gonna get into some of the deets on him, his experience, his life, et cetera, et cetera. Jim is a first generation American born and raised in New Jersey for the first decade of his life, then moved to Alabama, which he has left and returned to a few times. He served six years in the U S Marine Corps and found himself turned into an actor in an unplanned voice lesson. He spent over 20 years as an actor and in that time became a playwright,

screenwriter, producer, and author, among other roles in life taken in the pursuit of life. The latest and so far most important venture is to get this idea behind his book, all your best selves to teach emotional and mental literacy to the world. Welcome to show Jim. How are you? Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it, Chris. Thanks for coming. Absolutely. I feel like it's a great privilege to be on here.

It's my biggest podcast so far, so I'm moving up. It's a privilege to have you though. You got your book out. Give us any dot coms. Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs? There's really two places. One is my website. It's www.tbcenterprises.com. That's TBC, like Tango Bravo Charlie. And also you can buy my book on amazon.com. Just look for all your best selves, but I'm in social media as well.

I'm on TikTok, YouTube, Facebook under the name soy candy. S O I C A N D I E ie so give us a 30,000 overview what's inside your new book basically this what this information is it comes from about a hundred years ago and just stepping right outside of that if you look at the 2,500 years of Western acting going back to the Greeks the first 2100 years is what people think acting still is, is pretend, masking, representation. Over the next 300 years, like during the Victorian Shakespearean era, it moved to naturalism. Over the last 100 years with the advent of this Russian cat named Konstantin Stanislavsky, he made it

philosophical. It's not about pretending, it's about being, becoming. And I'm simply making the argument that these masters who came from him created the chisels, the hammers, the tools, the things we need to polish the marvel that is their art. Their art just happened to be the human mind and emotions. And I'm saying that they never realized the applications because the literal fact is we don't have a mind and emotions for the stage and one for real life. So if they are at the point where we're teaching actors how to use real emotions in imaginary circumstances, how to build a real working mindset for the stage,

why aren't we teaching everyone else these tools? There's a lot of people, they act on Instagram, they act on social media, sometimes they act in real life. I had a gentleman on recently who was autistic and on the spectrum and he was telling me that the way he gets through things is he wears a mask, which is kind of interesting. He, he basically acts out a part and it helps him, you know, function with the rest of us folks who aren't autistic and on the spectrum and aren't savants. That's kind of interesting.

So tell us how we can utilize acting skills to get through life. All right. There's this one, the one I use the most is called the Stanislavsky system and this is created by Constantine Stanislavsky and I want you to think of it like this a Submarine can't see what's going on. Can it it gets its situation awareness from a ping It uses sonar shoots out a ping that tells it where other subs are where ships on the surface are where whales are where the ground Is these seven questions in the system act the same way as an actor? These seven questions in the system act the same way. As an actor, we use them to ground ourselves, to ground our character in the moment so we

can make the best possible choices we can. I'm saying we can do the same thing in life. Here they are. Number one, who am I? This is the moment in relation to you. Number two, where am I? This is the moment in relation to the environment you're in. Number three, when is it? This is the moment in relation to the environment you're in. Number three, when is it?

This is the moment in relation to time. Number four, what do I want? This is the moment in relation to purpose. Number five, why do I want it? This is the moment in relation to desire. Number six, how do I get it? This is the moment in relation to action. And number seven, what's in my way?

This is the moment in relation to action and number seven. What's in my way? This is the moment in relation to obstacles, but these are acting questions, but these are life questions as well How many people have asked what do you want? I don't know never thought about it You know It's funny, but most people have never sat down and thought about what they want, right? It's it's interesting how they haven't crossed that. We're not taught to think that way. If you look at the, and I can't speak for the world, but the American education system, we're programmed for 12 years, we're programmed to essentially think and act and behave the same way.

We've got to follow these rules, pass these tests, and then we succeed and become a functioning piece of society. These rules, or not these rules, but these tools and techniques are designed to find your most authentic self by asking the questions kind of like that youngian concept of Self-actualization these are the questions you ask yourself to discover who you are And what I'm saying is if you can take these things you can develop yourself in multiple different ways So you can create multiple versions of yourself It's kind of like that idea of a multiple universes where there's different versions of you that took different choices. What I'm saying is you can take these tools and techniques, pull all those versions into your own mind and now have a

plethora of choices that you can choose from in the moment so you can make the best possible choices for you in that moment. You know, it's something that people need to figure out and sometimes you go into situations you don't like, right? Is that people need to figure out and, you know, sometimes you go into situations you don't like, right? Is that mostly what you might use this for, situations where, you know, maybe being yourself isn't the best move to make, maybe a job hire, maybe dating? Absolutely. Like a job interview, how many people go into job interviews for the first time when they

walk in the door? I'm going to have that well rehearsed. I'm going to think about questions they could ask questions. I could ask what I bring to the table, what other people bring to the table. So it's a question of doing your work and acting. It's kind of like in real life, people have insecurities in the acting world. We call that stage fright. You have stage fright because you haven't answered all the questions.

You have known all your points. You don't know you're blocking. There's still holes left in there. So you don't know what to do in those holes. If you fill those holes out points you don't know you're blocking there's still holes left in there so you don't know what to do in those holes if you fill those holes out you don't have states right the same thing in life if you take the month before you go any situation I mean granted it goes into interviews this works in all kinds of stuff let me ask you this have you ever heard of that a concept the it factor yeah can you explain it can you describe it? Can you describe it? People have the it the

But they have that that that that version of of where you know They're they're at the right moment the right time they're hitting the mark at the right moment You know sometimes they just everything seems to fall in line for that type of person Okay, this is what I mean by putting language to it and giving literacy to it I'm gonna give five skills. What I'm saying is if you take these five skills, I'm not saying they're absolute I'm just saying these five skills you put them together. You will exude that idea of the it factor. Oh, wow Number one active listening that's listening to someone else with intent to absorb what they're saying not just listening to say to reply Taking them within you so the point where you can understand what they're really going through to empathize with them number two charm Having charisma or magnetism. That's what draws people to you

You know that personality trait that kind of just you know makes people want to be next to you Number three is intensity. That's your ability to control your passion. Your passion is like flavored energy. It's this energy that you have, but there's different kind. Yeah, flavored energy. That's how I see it. Yeah, that's how I see emotions. But intensity is the ability to control it and have it do work for you.

Number four is generosity. That's being so full of yourself, not in a bad way, in the way that you've explored yourself, to where you're in a moment talking to someone, you're trying to give to them in that moment to make it richer and fuller for them as well. And number five is poise. It's like being on the red carpet and knowing how to make your body do gestures and positions to do work for you. So that's what I'm saying. If we can break it down, we can teach it. Now, if you need to go into a negotiation, an interview, a presentation, you can turn on the it factor, turn it on and off like actors do. We turn on these personalities on and off. So all you gotta do is do the time, do the work, boom, now you got a new skill.

Pete I mean, I kind of do a little bit of the show. People always ask me that when they're hanging out with me and I ask questions about them because I'm, you know, I'm curious about people and or on on first dates and people will be like, I don't know whether you're in podcast mode or whether you're in, this is the real Chris Foss because you have a personality online. And so it's kind of funny. But I'm like, no, I'm genuinely interested in people. Just because I'm asking you questions doesn't mean I'm in podcast mode. But the thing is they're both really you. Pete Yeah.

Jared Slauson It's not one's the real you and the other isn't. And there's a reason why. And this is between masking and being. And this is what Stanislavski changed. Most people, have you ever heard of the term code switching? Pete Code switching? Jared Code switching is a linguistics term. But what essentially is in the cultural behavior, it's like when a kid from an urban neighborhood gets a job like in a golf club and an affluent place, so he's gotta change the way he behaves,

the way he talks to fit into that new environment. That's something that when I'm talking about it, here's kind of like hyper code switching. There are people who do it just to fit in, there are people who absorb themselves into the environment and culture and become a part of it. Now, if you do that, now you're in that world. You're not just putting on a facade.

You can answer the questions being in it. And that's what I'm saying at this point, because people hit me up all the time because my crazy thing is this, this idea derives all the way back from when I was four years old, when I was four years old, my parents took me to midnight mass and for whatever reason, the concept of eternity hit me freaked me out. I realized there's no end, there could be no middle. If there's no middle, it's just a perpetual beginning. So 10,000 eons from now, even though I understand the scope of time, I would still exist. And what freaked me out was, what am I

going to do with forever once I've done everything many times over? Boredom got to me, you know, how do I exist in the never ending nothing left to do So I regressed inside my mind and I started creating these programs I referred to them as my suits and bubbles my suits were basically like I said active listening I would listen to whoever I was talking to to absorb everything they had mentally and emotionally to recreate them as myself My bubbles were like the holodeck in the Star Trek universe. Have you seen Star Trek? Yeah It's like the holodeck. It can be anytime any place anywhere So I would put these suits inside these bubbles and what I didn't realize as a child I was giving myself a place in my mind to work and that's where I went from

So I started creating all these versions, but now people are like, oh which one's you and I'm like, they're all me brother I filled them out. I just I grew out all the it's kind of like you're playing a video game and you max out all the skills. That's what I've been doing. I've been going my whole life, maxing out all these versions of me. And now I'm just this grandiose thing. Pete Slauson And I think, you know, as you progress through life and you master these things and being different people to different things, like

certainly when I'm in leadership mode, I'm kind of different than I am when I'm in podcast mode. When I'm in empathy mode, I'm kind of a little different. You kind of master these things, getting good at them. When I'm speaking, it's a little bit different. There's probably a bit more pompous sort of, I don't know if pompous is the right word, basically, you know, jacked up energy, all that sort of good stuff. But really what you're saying is these are all features of us and how to bring up maybe

the best in our different aspects of our personality? I mean, you hope for the best, but honestly, it brings them all out. It's how you use them. So you could literally use these to bring out the worst qualities as well. I don't push towards that or recommend it, but it is a path. I can't not say that. To me, it's the way I see it is like like this because the pushback I get the most is like Why do I need acting tools in my life?

And I the best way I can analyze it is let's say I got a screwdriver, right? And I'm taking the screwdriver and I'm screwing apart on a toy Tonka truck and my buddies man I gotta get this panel off my truck. I don't know how to get it out I'm like here take the screwdriver and he's like why would I want that screwdriver? It's what you use for toys So I'm saying taking the acting thing toss it completely aside and put this education and we change the world because if you consider this when we gave Written literacy reading and writing to the masses change the world when we gave numerical literacy mathematics to the masses It changed the world. So by that logic

Why wouldn't it change the world if we gave mental a systemic teachable way to give mental emotional literacy to the masses, it changed the world. So by that logic, why wouldn't it change the world if we gave a systemic teachable way to give mental and emotional literacy to the world? Why wouldn't it change it? Yeah. Yeah, why wouldn't it change it? So tell us a little bit about you, yourself, your upbringing, etc., etc. How did you grow up? How did you get into acting, in your words, and eventually you decided to write the book?

Absolutely. It was a wild ride because I don't, people ask me my goals, I don't have goals. I just look at the next step in front of my feet. Like I said, when I came out as a child creating these programs, it got me to the point where I was a sponge. I just started absorbing the world. So whenever I got into something interesting, I just dove into it. My first, I guess, taste of acting was theater one in freshman year of high school, but it didn't last long. I got kicked out after six weeks and sent to JROTC, and that kind of, I guess, taste of acting was theater one in freshman year of high school, but it

didn't last long. I got kicked out after six weeks and sent to JROTC, and that kind of, I guess, helped lead me to the Marine Corps. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I did six years in the Marine Corps, five active, one reserve. But when I got out, my first job was working at a Lone Star Steakhouse in Huntsville, Alabama. And I remember, I was honored, just dumb jarhead.

And I was rolling silverware at the end of my shift. And there was a couple other girls over there. One was going on about her voice lessons. And I was just I was in ball breaking mode. So I'm like, Come on, you want to talk about voice lessons is hard. And we talked about hard girl. And as soon as I snipped at her, she just stood up and fired back. I bet you couldn't do three weeks soldier boy. And I was kind of taken aback by her fire, you know, so I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna take a challenge.

I'm going to go take six weeks of voice lessons. So I instantly went and found a voice coach just to, you know, I guess, assert my dominance. I don't know what I was thinking at the time, but I did it. But after the first class, I forgot about the challenge, whatever the way this guy handled me and just made me sound was just shocking to me. And then he was like, Hey, can I interest you in doing a chorus? And he took a little bit of work to make me do it. But he got me into a chorus where I was singing with the group. So it was easy.

Then when I was in the chorus, there was this the group that was doing the chorus was doing a play called Pocahontas or a musical rather. And the character thundercloud, they had went to six people, four or six people had dropped out and they needed somebody within two weeks to do the show so they got me to do it and then I just started getting into it I mean I started auditioning and booking parts like my first two years I did 30 credits and then after that in 2005 I went to New York so from 2005 to 2007 I was in New York I started working up there. I wrote, produced, and performed my own play.

And from the moment I wrote the first line of the play till the day we closed, five months had passed, maybe five and a half. And it blew so many people away, because they were like, how did you do that so fast? And my answer was, I didn't know I wasn't supposed to. I didn't have any of the stuff to block me because I wasn't mentally put that way. I was just looking for what I needed to do

next. But that got me an audition for my first principal role in a SAG film called Hunger. And that brought me back because I was in New York at the time, but that brought me back to Huntsville, Alabama, because five states who did the film filmed it in Huntsville, Alabama, which was ironic, funny. Oh, wow. Yeah. So I came back here after I got the part and then I kind of got stuck down here. And actually I did, when I was doing the film, this is where the point of part was. I was, there was a moment that I call my quickening moment.

I was talking, I was in a scene with, have you ever seen the nineties Mortal Kombat films? No. There was this actor who played the first Johnny Cage, Lyndon Ashby. And I was doing a scene opposite him. Now in moments like this, it's they film one actor at a time. So when I was filming his scene, he was on camera. I wasn't, but when they yelled cut, he reached over and shook my hand.

Like I pulled his kid out of a fire. I didn't get it at the point, but what had happened was because even though I wasn't in my character, Alex, my lifestyle that I was living kept me present in the moment. So when I was delivering my lines, even though they were at a character, they were still giving to him as an actor. Because what happens in those moments is that the person who is off camera is just blah, blah, blah, in their lines. That's not giving to your scene partner. That's not allowing them the best possible performances that they can make, because it has an effect.

So that's what he was thanking me for. But when I realized that several weeks later, it was, like I said, I leveled up. That's when I realized that this is something big. I didn't realize it was a mental and emotional literacy at the time, but I knew it was much bigger than just this, because it was a way to teach this stuff. So that's what kind of got me to there. Then after that, a couple years after us when I started writing the book,

and then the book kind of flattered a little bit. I mean, it came out in 2001. So it's been a couple years, but it's just trying to learning to try to find my voice and find advocacy because I mean, I'll admit it, man, I'm not the guy who should have this idea. I tripped over. I'm not the hero of this idea needs. I'm the hobo it has, but I'm going to carry it as best I can, you know? Pete Slauson Yeah. And so, you decide to write the book, you write the book, and what were your thoughts as you were writing the book? Chris Smith Man, it was rough. I was, literally, when I was writing the book, I was working as a mail carrier. So, I'm driving down the road, writing

notes on my phone or with a laptop in my lap trying to deliver mail while I'm writing it But again, I didn't have a goal to be a writer. I don't want to be a writer I just saw a post on Facebook, you know write a book yada yada and I jumped on it and I was thinking what ideas do I have and that's when I realized I got this big idea. I should write about it So that's when I started putting it down on paper but the most to me the most valuable thing about writing the book was finding all the science that I found all the stuff to support it.

Because at first I thought this was just an idea that had nothing based on it other than what I'm saying. But when I started looking into it, I found that like there's trauma drama out there who uses acting tools and techniques for teens that are dealing with trauma in a certain way. So let's say if a teen has dealt with certain kind of trauma, they will work them through acting techniques in a different way. So let's say if a teen has dealt with certain kind of trauma,

they will work them through acting techniques in a different kind of trauma so they can develop the tools and techniques to work with trauma. That way they can later take those tools and techniques to their trauma so they don't have to work through their own trauma. There's also psychodrama. It's now called psychotherapy. But in the 1950s, Dr. Joseph Levy Moreno created psychodrama by taking acting tools and techniques and putting in a group therapy session. And it was just like that along with the colleges and universities where this is going on. Autism, Sense Theater teaches autistic kids using tools and techniques and acting by pulling

back the curtain. So it's teaching them how social situations work so they don't have to pick up on social cues from other people Oh, wow Yeah, like I said, there's so many applications about because again everything we do we use our mind and emotions. We just don't realize it It's just we've never had the literacy and two think about this When it comes to spending like the one percent the billionaire class think tanks They're spending billions upon billions of dollars to understand how human beings think, behave, act, that way they can influence

how we vote, how we spend, to make us do what they want to do. If we learn mental and emotional literacy, we negate all their work because the only reason they can do it is because we don't, if you don't know how to read, somebody can cheat you on a contract. It's like going to a foreign country. If you don't know their money, if you don't understand the literacy, you can get screwed out of your money. The same way with mental and emotional literacy.

If you don't have it, who is messing with you right now? Yep. Yep. Who's messing with you right now? And now, do you do consulting? Do you do coaching? Do you help people walk through the stuff in the book or is it still new on the book? It's still new.

Like I said, I mean, I have done it, but not professionally because like I said, I ain't the guy. I'm a high school dropout. I mean, even though I have all this knowledge and I can talk to it with the best of them, I don't have credentials or advocacy. I'm just a guy who tripped over this amazing idea. And like I said, everywhere, I've done 26, this is the 26th podcast interview I've done since February 6, brand new for me.

But every question I've been hit, I've been able to come back with an answer and explain in multiple different ways how this stuff can help. Because like I said, it's, like I said, this is going to level up humanity. I just, I'm trying to find the right words to deliver it. Pete I think you have. You've written a book, you're getting the message out there. There's plenty of high school dropouts that have become successful coaches and help other people. I barely graduated high school and started my first company in 18. There's no reason, there's nothing it says just because you're from high school that you can't do these successful things. So I think there's a lot of things that you can do to help people with this.

I can see how this can really apply to a lot of people on our different lives. Oh, absolutely. Just like I said, if you go into things like negotiation, or here's another thing, adolescents, all of us go through adolescence. Why aren't we teaching kids in primary school how to emotionally regulate so when they hit junior high, they don't get crushed with that emotional feeling of adolescence? That's one method right there that we can use to teach these kids. I mean, we're teaching them how to math, we're teaching them math and reading. All we got to do is add this in there, just as a humanity.

Yeah. There's a lot of things we need to teach kids that we don't teach them and then we teach them a whole lot of bullshit they really don't need. Things like algebra and trigonometry. I mean, seriously, the only people should do that are the people that are really tuned into numbers and math. And they should learn skills, like credit overworks and how to be a good person and how to sustain a marriage, how to raise children, things of that nature. If I could, now that you said skills,

one of the things that I refer to, and it's in my book, I refer to the third part as the intangible toolbox, and it shows tools and techniques that the actors have, but there's a bunch of soft skills that are learned either directly through these techniques or as a byproduct. Like I said, these are all teachable. Presence, situational awareness, initiative,

grit, projection, wit, breeziness, motivation, emotional regulation, empathy, critical thinking, teamwork, public speaking, problem solving, creativity, listening, independence, mindfulness, preparation, organization, goal orientation, interpersonal skills, communication. Like I said, these are all things we need in life But I've never seen them all just compacted in one arena that could be taught It's like skills we have to search for or trip over find along the way. So if we put them all concentrated together We're we're saving kids time in their life and people who don't know how to do it now at any age Can pick it up now and learn it and use it actionably in the moment.

So there's three acting masters I believe that you pull from and bring down and talk in the arenas of acting. Tell us about those three individuals. Absolutely. The first one is Konstantin Stanislavski and he's regarded as the father of acting. He's the one I was telling you that the Stanislavski came from and he had a unique situation because his actors are not really regarded, especially in that time frame, as rich. But he came from a rich family so he had his own theater and that's what helped him basically create this

system because he essentially had his own incubator. He had endless amounts of money to create and I mean there's stories that he was kind of a little crazy with it you know because he wanted exactly what he wanted, but it was all his thing funded his way. That allowed him to create these systems and put them out there. And then from him was born the group theater. The group theater existed in New York City, and that's where method acting comes from, the American method. Sanford Meisner was among them.

Now, if you look at acting, there's different styles. There's outside in and inside out. Inside out is working from the inside going out. Outside in is just the reverse. Stanislavski is inside out, work from the inside, work exterior, go to exterior. Meisner was outside in. So he's working with outside stimuli and working in.

So his thing was behavior. So if you're talking to someone else, you're not focusing on the words, you're focusing on the outside stimuli like their behavior, how they're acting. And that lets you learn how to read behavior, which again is another skill we should be able to read behavior as human beings because we live in a deceptive world. If you're in negotiations, if you're bartering stuff like that, it helps to learn to see if someone's you know, got a card up their sleeve. And the third one is Uta Hagen.

She comes a little later, but she's, I mean, she's not, she wasn't in the group theater, but she's also really big into improv as well. But she created her own system that's very similar to Slavsky's that is used to break down the character and to understand the little separate elements of the character, which again, the character being us, it lets us learn separate elements of us. Here you go. And you develop more of your personality, who you are, you take a hard look of who you are and everything else.

What do you hope people come away with as they read your book? A couple things to realize that because we have that mentality that we can't change, especially older folks, I can't change, this is what I am, blah, blah, you can change, anybody can change. You just need the tools and techniques to change and the willingness and the discipline. So one, that it doesn't matter who you are, where you are, if you if you feel that urge inside you, if something isn't right,

and you want to be a different way, find the tools and techniques to help you change to invoke that change. And two is just to be curious, because that's what helps us through life curiosity. It's a double edged sword curiosity killed a cat. So you got to be careful. But it's great to be curious because that's what helps us through life. Curiosity, I mean, it's a double-edged sword. Curiosity killed a cat. So you got to be careful, but it's great to be curious because it brings more of outside what's in the world into you. And that helps grow you because the more that you absorb into you is the more you become, as long as you take it seriously, take it to heart.

Any, any future plans that you have, a newsletter maybe that people can join or maybe consulting or coaching here coming up that people can join or maybe consulting or coaching here coming up that people can watch out for in the future projects you're working on? I'm still learning. I'm doing the social media thing. I'm taking it a step at a time just because it's been so much so fast. I wasn't expecting the podcasting to hit so hard for me, but I definitely want to do that. I may very well start my own podcast, host show myself, but right now I'm just baby stepping into it.

And just, I guess the next step right now would be just, if you look at my website, I have some video productions that I'm doing, just small miniature work stuff, but it's something to put out there. As we go out, give people your final thoughts on the book, where to pick it up, where to stay in touch with you if they have questions, where to reach out, any.com, all that good stuff. Awesome. We're just stay in touch with you if they have questions where to reach out any dot coms all that good stuff Awesome. Yes again WWW.TBCEnterprises.com that is my website. You can go on there. You can see all the projects I'm working on you can see the podcast that I've done on so far

Also, amazon.com if you check out my book all your bestsells It's on there for sale. And like I said, it's breaking down to three parts. The first part is my life, my autobiography in relation to the book. The second one talks about the idea and basically the science that supports it. And the third part, which is the biggest part is the intangible toolbox where it breaks down the three of them Astros Stanislavski, Meisner and Hagen along with improv techniques. And it shows you how we use them as actors alongside how you can use them in life with exercises. Thank you very much, Jim, for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. I appreciate you having me. Like I said, this is all new for me, but I feel like it's important work. I'm just trying to do the best I can by it. I think you're doing great. Do you get the coaching

and the consulting together, the newsletter, the podcast, all that stuff, and you're going to be supporting this book and kicking ass, taking names. I hope so. Thank you. Thank you. And thanks to my audience for tuning in. Order the book wherever fine books are sold. All your best selves, how the performing arts toolkit can help you thrive

anytime, any place with anyone out March 15th, 2022 under author name JJR Taylor. Thanks so much for tuning in. Be good to each other. stay safe, we'll see you guys next time. Mesh of South