The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Bioreactors and Light: The Future of Bio-Manufacturing Unveiled

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

Bioreactors and Light: The Future of Bio-Manufacturing Unveiled Prolific-machines.com About the Guest(s): Dr. Deniz Kent is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Prolific Machines, a biotech innovator at the forefront of utilizing light as a control mechanism for cellular behavior in biomanufacturing. With an academic background in molecular biology, Dr. Kent's expertise lies in optogenetics—the science of using light to control cells. Under his leadership, Prolific Machines is pioneering a new era in biotechnology with applications ranging from pharmaceuticals to cellular agriculture. Episode Summary: In this fascinating episode of The Chris Voss Show, listeners are introduced to the visionary world of Dr. Deniz Kent, CEO and co-founder of Prolific Machines. With a mission to revolutionize biotechnology, Dr. Kent explores the profound impact of using optogenetics, a process that employs light to communicate and control cellular functions. This innovative approach aims to drive significant advancements in biomanufacturing, offering potential solutions for diverse industries, from pharmaceuticals to food production. The discussion delves into how Prolific Machines strives to harness light for creating efficiencies in drug manufacturing, ultimately reducing costs and improving accessibility. Dr. Kent explains that the applications extend beyond pharmaceuticals, potentially transforming how we produce food and other essentials. As the conversation evolves, the potential future of bioreactors in homes is posited, signaling a shift towards personalized cell-based production. This episode promises intriguing insights into a future where biotechnology plays a pivotal role in daily life. Key Takeaways: Revolutionizing Biomanufacturing: Prolific Machines is utilizing optogenetics to enable precise control over cellular functions, impacting major sectors like pharmaceuticals and agriculture. Democratization of Medicine: The cost-effective and scalable nature of optogenetic biomanufacturing could make advanced therapies more accessible globally. Visionary Applications: While focusing on drug manufacturing now, the technology envisions a future where bioreactors could provide custom food and medical solutions at home. Historical Roots in Modern Innovation: The concept of biomanufacturing has ancient origins, showing its evolution from traditional practices to groundbreaking modern science. Industry and Public Engagement: Dr. Kent aims to raise awareness and foster understanding of biotechnology's potential, encouraging engagement from both industry professionals and the general public. Notable Quotes: "What we're building is a system where machines and cells can communicate with each other." "I believe that all biomanufacturing will eventually become optogenetic." "You can make anything made out of cells, which is, a lot of things." "The ultimate goal is anyone who wants to make something with cells can use our technology as the infrastructure to do that." "By switching to these more advanced, machine-controllable tools, we can dramatically reduce the cost of protein therapeutics or gene therapies."

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Oh, well, I haven't been a new fan. I mean, do many, is there, can, how many, somebody count how many problems anyone can have in the world. Is 2,500 the max? I don't know. I'll have to ask some people. Anyway, guys, go to Goodreve.com, where it says Chris Foss. LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, Facebook.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, and YouTube.comFord slash Chris Foss. There's a lot of Chris Foss in there. What the hell is that about? Opinions expressed by guests on the podcast are solely their own and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of the host or the Chris Foss show. Some guests of the show may be advertising on the podcast, but it's not an endorsement or review of any kind.

Hey, we have an amazing young man on the show. We're going to be talking to him about his company, prolific machines, his entrepreneurial journey, how he became one, how he is one, and what he hopes to do with that. And maybe, you know, he can give you some inspiration. to you on how to become one as well. Dr. Dennis Kent, Dennis with a Z, by the way, if you Google it, is a co-founder and chief executive officer of prolific machines, a photomolecular biology innovator ushering in a new era of biotechnology using a light. Light? Why did I say? I don't know why I make a big deal. It is actually cool, though. Prolific harnesses. light to produce everyday essentials more efficiently from food and life-saving drugs to novel bio solutions. The Bay Area Company's first-of-its-kind platform delivers unprecedented control precisely guiding cellular behavior where and when it matters most. Unlike existing tools

use the control of biology, they use technology that unlocks direct and dynamic control over virtually any cellular function in any cell type. This is starting to scare me a little bit. The company enables innovators across pharmaceuticals, nutritional, and therapeutic proteins, and cellular agriculture to unlock robust efficiency, quality, reproductivity. Wait, can this help me with my ED?

And sustainability advantages. We can talk about what's scaring you, Chris. Maybe I can help. I don't know. It's the big words. I flunk second grade. I welcome the show, Dennis. How are you? I'm doing well. Thanks for having me.

This is, you know, computers that can communicate through light with AI, what could go wrong? I don't know. I don't know. You tell me. You know, we're not building, we're not building AGI, you know, machines that can become sentient and pose an existential risk for humanity. What we're building is a system where machines and cells can communicate with each other. And the reason why we want to build that is because cells can make a lot of useful things from the food that we eat to the medicines that we consume to the materials that we use in our houses, the fuels that we use in our cars. Cells are basically everywhere and also nowhere because we can't see them individually.

We are ourselves just big bags of cells. that's my that's my uh pick up line on on the big bag of cells baby sign up on tinder now it's true and um up until now we haven't had ways for machines and cells to communicate with each other and um we we've been we've been building something that allows that to happen for the first time and yeah no go ahead hopefully it'll be useful Now, we got your dot com in there. Did we get your dot com? I can't remember.

We've been having fun. The dot com. Yeah. Prolific Machines.com? Yes. Is there a dash in there? There is a dash in there, yeah. So prolific dashmachines.

So you can look this up. Now, why did you start this company? What was the proponent? You're just, were you guys just sitting around going, hey, what are we going to make machines talk over light, eh? Like really high or something and, uh, is that we can make this? work. So I'm a scientist by training, and during my PhD, one of my colleagues showed me a remote

control mouse. And this mouse had a laser in its brain. And by shining a light in different parts of its brain, you could control the behavior of the mouse. So you could make it eat or not eat or fuck or not fuck or, you know, turn left in a maze. And this was my first exposure to the field of optogenetics. Wow. And I know some husbands that may want this and I remember

looking at that mouse like with a combination of awe and terror being like what the hell is this? And basically the idea of being able to convert electrons into specific biochemical

cascades has just not left my brain since. So people were using it as a research tool. And at the time, I was very interested in bio-manufacturing for climate applications. And it was kind of dawning on me that all of the reasons why optogenetics is such a good research tool are also the reasons why it's an excellent manufacturing tool. And seven years ago, nobody was using optogenetics in biomanufacturing.

And so I basically had this as my side hustle for a while. And then eventually it turned into a company. I was designing the world's first optogenetic bioreactors and the world's first optogenetic stem cells and basically the idea is like can we have cells that can not only be grown with light but also controlled with light

to make all the things that we want but at a environmental burden that is significantly less than having to grow a whole organism and being able to do stuff with cells that we currently can't do like making amazing new drugs that can cure us of our ailments

or making tissues for people that need new tissues. There's a lot that can be done with cells that would improve the human condition. And I'm motivated about using biomanufacturing to do that. Oh, wow. This is really crazy. And I guess this technology is fairly new. Is that? Well, it's kind of simultaneously very new and very old. So the original inventors of this technology are not human. They are bacteria. and they invented the technology long before humans existed, many billions of years ago. And bacteria basically invented these proteins inside them that change shape when you hit them with light. And that shape change then triggers a biochemical cascade inside the bacteria.

And that is useful for bacteria because they needed to be able to regulate themselves to the sun. And since then, algae stole it from bacteria. plants then stole it from algae and so it's all over all over nature every plant has this license these license to proteins and you know if you ever wonder why your plants grow towards your windows obviously it's you know it's because that's where the sun is but why does that actually happen it happens because there are these there are these proteins in the plant the change shape when you hit them with light and then that triggers the plant to move towards the the window So basically what we do is we take this ancient mechanism and we attach these light

sensitive proteins to things that we want to control inside of cells. So different proteins inside of cells can be tagged with these light sensitive proteins and then we can switch them on and off and tune them to different levels by shining different colors and intensities of light on the cells. And basically built a toolkit where you can make cells do whatever you want at extremely low cost and extremely high precision. Wow. So is this like, what do they call that when the, the plants convert the photolaic or photo synthesis? Yeah, you're thinking of photosynthesis.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is not photosynthesis. Although they are both, they both do use light. So they're similar. It was close. So photosynthesis uses light to make energy. And in our systems, we don't use light to make energy because we're growing. mammalian cells.

We use glucose or sugar for energy. Some people more than others. The light is used as a signal. So the light tells the cells what to do. Well, that's pretty wild, man. Now, so could this

put DoorDash out of business by making me pizzas just at will? I just be like, hey, make me sell pizza, put it together and, you know, I think I'm going to pay in DoorDash. You know, in theory, every home could have a bioreactor where you are growing the cells that you want.

So we could, we could like, and this is, you know, not what we're doing today for clarity, but we're just, we're just, we're just, we're just dreaming together here, Chris. Okay. We, we could, you could have a bioreactor in your home that you can put load different cells in. So, you know, this is a bluefin tuna day. You've loaded some bluefin tuna cells. It grows you up some bluefin tuna. It's like, oh, this is a wagu day.

You load in some wagyu cells. It'll make you a bugger. that is entirely feasible scientifically. It is not the business model that we currently have. What is the business model you guys are using for this? Currently, what we're doing is providing manufacturing services to people who have drugs that they want to manufacture with this technology. So we're a pharmaceutical service provider, but that's where we found product market

fit, but it is just one slice of a much larger vision. we're trying to go we're trying to go any drug cartels cartels reach out you maybe it's an easy way to make cocaine or something asking for a friend we do not have any drug cartels it's because we're getting any weird knocks on the door at night don't ask you anyway we make we make protein therapeutics so now could this

can this lower the cost of like say drugs or drug making so that maybe you know I can save five bucks in the 10 thousand dollar penicillin a pill you have to take yeah so it can dramatically lower the cost of drugs and specifically it's lowering the cost of the most expensive drugs which are what's called biologics so drugs that are made with cells and those can come in many different flavors but most the most commonly used ones are like they're called monoclonal antibodies so these are basically the proteins that exist in your immune system that are now being repurposed to treat things that are not

infectious. So you can use these monoclonal antibodies to treat cancer, to treat autoimmune disease, a whole bunch of things. But they are exorbitantly expensive because the tools that we have to control cells today are not very good. So by switching to these more advanced machine controllable tools, we can dramatically reduce the cost of protein therapeutics or gene therapies. And this will democratize access to our best drugs. And I think that'll be a good thing. democratizing access to drugs, especially if you can make your own penicillin at home or something, I don't know, or cocaine. It depends on if you live in Denver or not, I guess. So, you know, some drugs are made via chemical synthesis, which are not the ones that we make, those are already.

The ones that we make are the ones that are made by growing cells. Oh, so like protein therapeutics or gene therapies. you could make you like cannabis has just made out of the cells too yeah that is not what we're doing right now but you could absolutely grow cannabis cells in a bioreactor if you want to do really so what's the vision for this what's the what if you want to if if you want to project me into the perfect future however many years this takes maybe you want to tell me how many years that might take where could this become like something maybe could change the lives of everyday users you know do I get one of these bioreactor

next to my expressa machine or a microwave? How does that work? So the ultimate goal is anyone who wants to make something with cells can use our technology as the infrastructure to do that. Right now the customers are businesses,

not people directly. So it's more likely that you would interact with it indirectly via a company for the company that you buy drugs from or a supermarket that you buy food from or like that's going to be the third way that people interact with this but then eventually you know it is possible that

people could have bioreactors in their own homes and you know it's kind of interesting because it this this all sounds and feels very new but by manufacturing this field has actually been around for a very very long time so thousands and thousands of years fact you have we have like ancient archaeological evidence of the Roman Empire doing biomanufacturing to make condiments we have like ancient evidence of of the ancient Chinese empires from 4,000, 6,000 years ago, using biomeufacturing to make beer and bread and wine and even mead.

So it's kind of new technology, but it's also technology that's been with us the entire way. Could you make like dinosaurs and a woolly mammoths and shit from DNA? You can make anything made out of cells, which is a lot of things. Yeah. Can I make a new girlfriend? Asking for a friend. In theory, yes. But in practice, a whole human is a degree of complexity that is too far for our technology today.

All right. But we, I think we are moving towards a world where we can grow whole tissues and pattern them with light. So we could, I think within maybe 10 years or 20 years. within our lifetime we'll be able to make tissues and organs and that is a stepping stone to the girlfriend that you want cool replaceable parts too that's what i've always wanted i mean like how come i can call Chevy and get a new alter and everybody can't get a new kidney what the fuck well that's what we're trying to solve yeah that would be awesome man in the future you will be able to grow we'll be able to take some chris voss cells from you and we'll be able to grow out your cells specifically in a bioreactor and then we'll be able to

pattern them to make your kidney or a liver or a lung or whatever it is that you want. Do you hear that kid, uh, honey, it's going to be a while before I can make a new girlfriend. So just pack your bags and get ready. That's all. Well, this is pretty interesting. And, and I've never heard of this feel before. I know, you know, we talk about AI. Is AI going to help it advance faster maybe?

Because AI is making everything. Just start. Yeah. So the AI is important. It's basically, there's three parts to this, right? You need you need some sensors in the cells to tell you what's going on. And then you need some intelligence to process all of that data. Typically, that has been done with human intelligence, but, you know, there's a bunch of problems with using humans. And then you need a way to go back to the cells to do the bi-directional communication, and that part we do with light. So it's basically the way that we use it is to automate the bioprocess controller.

So basically have all of the sensor data go into this algorithm. The algorithm crunches all the numbers, and then it makes predictions on what is the best intensity, wavelength, and duration of the light to apply to get to a certain target. And that target could be, you know, we want to make Chris a kidney, or we want, you you know, more drugs, or we want a Wagyu Burger. Like right now, what we're using it for is to make drugs, like protein therapy. Wow. And virus.

Wow. Now you said that the computers can talk to each other through light. Is this like a new Wi-Fi maybe or something? Yeah, the computers talk to the cells via light. So if I turn the lights out, they can't talk. Is that? If you, in our bioreactors, if you switch the lights off, then the, you've cut, then you only have one directional community.

You still have the sensors that are telling you what's going on, but you don't have a way for the machines to communicate with the cells. Is it like Ghostbusters, or if I cross the beams, bad things happen? It's a great question. If you cross the beams,

great things happen. So we can actually use different colors of light to control different things. Really? You can have, you know, one light, like for example, you can one light sensitive protein that is activated by blue light controlling one process and a second light sensitive protein activated by green light controlling a second process and then a third light sensitive protein controlled by red light controlling a third process so scientists call this

orthogonal control it basically means you can control multiple things independently can we control my girlfriend no i'm just kidding the uh like i said at the beginning mind control in mice using light has already been demonstrated. But it is currently illegal and unethical to do this on humans. I get investors asking me frequently. It's like, can I use this on my kids?

I'm like, no, I don't recommend it. Yeah. So could you make me like a blue pizza? Can you make me pizza? I mean, is that possible? I mean, pizza's made out of cells. Yeah. So it's like lots of different,

there's lots of different forms of cells. So you have like, you know, the cow cells in the meat, you have the plant cells in the dough. So pizza's not a super good early application, one, because it's complicated. So there's lots of different types of cells and it's not very expensive. So we look for applications where there's only, initially only one type of cell involved. And the thing that it makes is very high value, which is why, you know, we produce drugs that can cure diseases with these protein therapeutics. But eventually

as the technology matures will make cheaper and cheaper things. So that's a long-winded way of saying, yes, long-term, you'll be able to make pizza with optogenetic biomanufacturing. Especially if you can make like your favorite pizza, right?

Because like, like, you know, I mean, think of the money you save on DoorDash, eh? You wouldn't have to have to have any more, you know? You want an at-home bioreactor. do. I won't want to me. This is a customer discovery. I'll add you to the list. This is one of those IBM moments where that one guy, Watson or whatever, he's like, there's no reason anybody's to have a personal computer and a home. I want a bioreactor.

Right next to the microwave, you probably can't sit it too close to the microwave. That might be a bad idea. Next to my expressing machine, you got the full utility of kitchenware there. So what we'll be able to hook you up with eventually? is, you know, you'll have your bioreactor and then you'll have a little freezer full of different frozen biocells, and then you'll be able to choose, what do you want? Is it a bluefin tuna? Is it a wagu? Is it a plant cell?

And then you can have a little library of frozen cells. You put it into the bioreactor and then you make what you want. Huh? Like a Big Mac or something. You don't have to go to McDonald's. You have to drive over there. You just make a Big Mac home and be like, eh, it's a Big Mac. I mean, we'll start by like you, you just make the patty, you know, that's a good start.

Yeah. I mean, this may, it might be taken, there's a lot that goes into a Big Mac, so. Yeah, we want, we want high value, low complexity to start, Chris. Oh, well, that's not the Big Mac. That's not the Big Mac. According to court, there's a Frankenmead in there, some type, but no one knows. But what, like cancer drugs, that's a pretty high value. Yeah.

You know, solving Alzheimer's maybe, or a brother brain disease is MS or something, maybe? I mean, people are developing protein therapeutics for all sorts of diseases right now. It's actually quite an exciting time. Lyme disease would be a big one that would help a lot of people out, because that thing's such a freak, crazy thing. Yeah. And so you guys are, are you guys kind of on the cutting edge of this? Is there a lot of other people in this field doing it? We created the field of optogenetic biomanufacturing, and we're at the bleeding edge of this.

wow that is wild this field is also like another another name that people use for it as synthetic biology so it's basically the idea of taking biology and adding adding in a bunch of stuff to make it do stuff that it wouldn't normally do so are you appearing on the shows to raise awareness or are you looking for investors or what are you guys hoping to achieve um just just here to have a fun conversation with help you grow some kidneys Let me grow that third nut. Maybe some breasts or something. I don't know.

I'm going out into the world trying to raise awareness about this, to educate people about this. You know, we are obviously constantly onboarding more customers and investors. Wow. Yeah. How been investors love this sort of stuff. This is the future, eh? Yeah, we've got some amazing investors.

I'm here to try and educate people. Don't go on Twitter. because there's no hope there. I'm actually not on Twitter. I only use LinkedIn. We do a lot of Twitter abuse, callback jokes on the show. It's fun, you know, to kick it. Anyway, I should call it X when I abuse it

and then call it Twitter when I love on it because it's still Twitter to me, or it will always be Twitter to me. What haven't we talked about that maybe we should make people aware of what you guys are doing or the technology is doing how it might change their life? Yeah, I mean, if you are in the farm, if you're listening to this, you're in the pharmaceutical industry

and you want to make biological drugs, definitely get in touch. You can follow me on LinkedIn or you can go through our website. If you're just part of the general public and you're interested in this stuff, I have a book coming out about biomanufacturing. It's going to be probably at some point in the next two years or so.

And yeah, you can follow me on LinkedIn if you're interested in that. And if you want to work in biomanufacturing, then we have periodically new jobs posted on our website so you can keep an eye out. It sounds like a way to be a fun industry to work in. It is a fun industry to work in. Yeah, especially if you forgot to build me a new girlfriend. It's difficult and rewarding. Couple of them.

Yeah. Well, this is the future, man. It's just crazy, man. It's what's going on, man. I remember the days when computers had to talk to each other through wires, eh? So, I mean, that would be really cool, especially if, like, I don't know, you could have network in your home. where instead of having everything plugged in on stupid wires or not are you just

just so to be clear the computers are still talking to each other with wires the light the light the light is used to go between the cells and the computers yeah see this is too bunch for my permanent to fully grasp I'll have to watch the show a couple times just to understand what happened here that or I'll hire someone to explain it to me what was he saying we have we have some good explainer videos on our website you want to go no but this is cool man i'm excited about the future i mean you know i've always wondered why we don't can't have reprintable body organs and you know why we just can't be parted out like a Chevy car you know you can be like hey uh i got a bad brain or i got it a bad

kidney or got a bad toe just get a replacement part in here screw that baby on you know that That's absolutely the future that we're heading towards. Yeah, duct tape it up and go. Hopefully no duct tape. Well, I mean, you know. You don't want it to fall. Cellular duct tape. Cellular duct tape, yeah.

Well, AI and this sort of stuff. Wow. The future's coming, man. It's like the George Jetsons are here. Was it George Jetson? The Jetsons are here, man. The future coming. And so is this thing going to be pretty normalized, maybe five,

10 years, 20 years from now? I think so. I believe that all biomanufacturing will eventually become optogenetic. You know, I've been saying that for seven years. And initially, people didn't believe me. And now, you know, seven years later, a lot of people have started believing me. And we have some major players that have started saying that. You know, I think with all these big shifts, it goes from, you know, naive and impossible to

trivial over time. That is crazy, dude. That is wild. So would you call it like a, this, the bioreactor? have to utilize. Is that like basically a 3D printer for cells if I, if I'm, I'm simplifying it obviously. Yeah, so there's, there's, uh, actually I'll just show you a picture. There's a, there's lots of different types of hardware that you can use for different things, but, yeah, like, that's my girlfriend says. This is a 10-liter

optogenetic buyer. Holy crap. This is like that is one hell of a toilet right there. Wow, that thing, that thing looks like if I get near it, it's going to I'm warped me into another black hole or some shit. This is like a 50-liter, a 50-liter version. Wow. This is like some I was seeing movies, man. Yeah, so. Spielberg came up with.

So we have different pieces of hardware to do different things. So if you wanted to do, like, tissue patterning, for example, that's a different piece of hardware to if you just want to grow and make some drugs. So here's an example of, like, cells that have been patterned with light. So, you know, you can take some cells. hit them with one color of light, push them in one direction, take up the cells, hit them with a different color of light, push them in a different direction.

So you can start creating these like bespoke patterns. Would it be? This is how we would make tissues eventually. I was going to say, that kind of looks like your logo, right? It is all logo. Yeah. That's pretty wild, man. Yeah, that's pretty wild, man.

I had a thought, and I remember what it was. It was probably just a bad joke. They're all bad. So as we go out, anything more you want to talk to us or tease out to us? Anything more we should know about this technology? No, I think if you want to learn more, the resources are our website, LinkedIn, and I have a personal website that's coming out that's going to have all of this stuff. That's Dennis Kent.com.

It's currently password protected, but it will become live to the public in a couple of weeks time. this would be fun you guys need a youtube or tic-tok channel where you're like hey we're going to throw some in the toilet bowl uh lighter thing that we got here and watch hey it'd be cool to watch they're like hey they just made a blue pizza and save me 40 bucks from door dash how about teleporting if the talks you like can we make teleporting work in this somehow you know like to star track uh yeah we don't We're not doing teleporting. Yeah, that is beyond the scope of prolific. You're going to need some pretty strong space-time bending machines. Or those pods from the fly that, what's his face had?

That one movie, The Fly? Remember that? We just make stuff with cells, Chris. So, buggers, drugs. It was their cells? So are flies, evidently. so well this will be cool anything that can save me door dash money and go to Starbucks you know you just pour me a coffee here tastes like I'll add you on the

wait list for our at home bioreactor solution put me on the body improvement list I want to set of booze and I want to look like Ron Jeremy no I'm just kidding I don't don't look like Ron Jeremy but I think we all get that joke this has been this has been fun Chris thank you well that's what we do we have fun with technology because I don't understand anything we just said. So we're going to get done with this show. Not even the new girlfriend? I told you you could stay for two weeks until this new thing comes out.

And then you got to go. Sorry, she's bugging me again. Anyway, well, thank you very much for coming on, Dennis. This is going to be really cool to see. And it sounds like some really amazing technology in the future. I hope I'm alive for it to see it. Maybe it helps keep me alive. So I can see more.

Yeah, thank you. Hey, is there any way we can use this to help make my video game play better? Like, I can cheat on Call of Duty or anything with this stuff. I mean, if you don't mind me, like, putting a laser in your brain and genetically energy. Sure. Hey, if that'll increase my kill-the-death ratio on war zone, that's worth it. If I could just walk around and kill stupid people with my laser shooting on my brain,

oh, that would be great. Every time I meet someone stupid, I'd just be like, hold still. kind of like that what was that one movie with the MIB men in black and they had that one thing and erase your memory I could have that that would be good for girlfriends too

anyway see if you can look into that technology anyway thank you very much Dennis for coming on the show it's been fun to have you give us to your dot coms as we go out yeah it'll be prolific dash machines dot com Dennis Kent

and prolific machines on LinkedIn and then my personal website, it will be Dennis Kent.com, no dash D-N-I-Z-K-E-N-T. Well, this will be fun. Yeah, prolific machines is P-R-O-L-I-F-I-C-Dash

machines. All right, sounds good. Thank you very much for coming the show. We really appreciate it, man. Bye. All right, and thanks for us for tuning in. We're further sure your family, friends, and relatives, or else go to goodreach.com for just Christmas.

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