The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Courage Finds His Calm by Lisa Watson

Episode Date: May 21, 2025

Courage Finds His Calm by Lisa Watson Reparent-yourself.com/ Awakentheone.org Amazon.com Courage Finds His Calm is a charming, yet powerful picture book that introduces young children to the practic...e of mindfulness and emotional regulation. The story follows Courage, a little bunny who experiences frustration and anger when his carefully built sandcastle crumbles unexpectedly. Through the gentle guidance of his friend Callahan, Courage learns simple yet effective breathing techniques to manage his overwhelming emotions. This picture book, part of Lisa Watson’s “Mindfulness” series, aims to equip children aged two to four with practical tools to navigate life’s inevitable disappointments and challenges. By presenting mindfulness concepts in an engaging, age-appropriate way, the book helps young readers understand the connection between their breath and emotional state. The vivid watercolor illustrations by Isabella Clark bring Courage’s journey to life, making the learning process both fun and relatable for children. Courage Finds His Calm addresses the critical need for emotional intelligence skills in early childhood, a time when the foundations for lifelong habits are being formed. Perfect for parents, teachers, and caregivers looking to instill mindfulness in young hearts, Courage Finds His Calm is more than just a bedtime story—it’s a valuable life lesson wrapped in a cuddly adventure. Get ready to breathe, smile, and discover the calm within!

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Starting point is 00:01:52 We're going to be talking to her about her new book that comes out August 5th, 2025. You can preorder it now. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I thought you were going to say August 25th. Yes, August 5th, 2025. You're right. I almost did, didn't I? August 5th, 2025. There's too many fives in there and, and I, I'm, I'm just in shock that we're close to August. So here we are halfway through the year, almost.
Starting point is 00:02:16 Her book is entitled Courage Finds His Calm. It's a picture book out August 5th, 2025 by Lisa Watson. We're going to be talking to her on the show about her insights, her experience, It's a picture book out August 5th, 2025 by Lisa Watson. We're going to be talking to her on the show about her insights, her experience, and some of the wonderful things that she's done and books she's working on that you're definitely going to want to check out. Welcome to the show. Lisa, how are you?
Starting point is 00:02:36 Lisa Watson I am fantastic. Thank you. Pete Slauson Thank you. And thanks for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs?
Starting point is 00:02:44 Lisa Watson I have two places. I have reparent-yourself.com, which is my coaching website, and I have awakentheone.org, which is my mission project of Conscious Children's Books. Pete Slauson Give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside this new book? Courage Finds His Calm. Danielle What's inside this book is, it's a mindfulness book for children teaching mindfulness techniques, breathing techniques. It's about a adorable little bunny named Courage and his mentor, a yak named Callahan, and he helps him through very practical methods and a beautiful little rhyming story.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It's designed for three to seven year olds. But don't let that scare you away from this podcast because what we're really going to talk about is a lot of inner adult healing that has to happen. And these children's books that I write are really just the other side of that. And it's more about spiritual development and learning who you truly are as a young child so that you don't have to unlearn it as an adult that you weren't so awesome because we are all really awesome. I've seen some people on X that maybe aren't quite so awesome, but I'll take your word for it. I'm going to tell you why they are. Okay, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'm going to tell you why they are. Okay, let's do it. Okay, let's just dive in right there. I love it because what I really teach is that, I'm going to go deep here with you, Chris, okay? What I teach is that we are all spiritual beings. We are all literally God in form. And I like to refer to our body as being an avatar. And the brain is our operating system. And if you understand that
Starting point is 00:04:31 during the first seven years of life is when this operating system is downloaded. So I want to ask you when when a baby is born to any one across the world, would you agree that that child that is born is innocent? Pete Slauson Innocent of what? I mean… Jodi Wadham Innocent. Just an innocent being.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Pete Slauson Yeah, yeah. An empty page sort of thing. Jodi Wadham Yeah, just a perfect innocent being. Pete Slauson Yeah. Jodi Wadham When the day is born, right? Pete Slauson I suppose so. I've known some, I saw some baby movies, there was that one Chucky movie, so I'm not sure. I'm just doing jokes, folks.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I love it. That's okay. That's, we're all good. Okay. But babies are innocent, all right? I don't know if that one was. Maybe if they're possessed, but at the end of the day, they're innocent and it's just whatever's possessing them that is not innocent, okay? Pete Yeah. Yeah. Julie So, what changes that innocence is the programming, the belief systems that are downloaded into us for those first seven years. Most people don't realize this, but children under the age of eight are walking around in a hypnotic state. Their brain is in the theta brainwave state, and they're literally
Starting point is 00:05:46 absorbing absolutely everything around them, just as truth. They're not filtering out any information. Children are not mini-adults. They don't have the brain capacity that adults have. They don't have a frontal lobe that is developed. Okay. So they're just walking around, you know, 50 cards short of a full deck, pretty much. Pete Slauson Some people say that way, I think, on it. No, I'm doing more X jokes. It's a callback. Dr. Jennifer Linn No, for sure. For real. They're kind of like pets where, you know, they just don't have the capacity and the understanding and the logic
Starting point is 00:06:20 and things like that. But what's happening is their subconscious mind is being formed during these years. So whatever behaviors are being modeled for these children, whatever words are being spoken to them become their truth. So if a child is told, you know, you're lazy, you're, you know, unmotivated, you're unreliable, you're stupid, whatever it may be, that becomes a belief system about themselves. They're not filtering out this information and saying that's not true or I don't really buy it, maybe I'll adopt that, maybe I won't.
Starting point is 00:06:58 It simply becomes their truth. They're not capable of filtering out anything. These are the years in which this operating system of the avatar is created. So that's why there's that saying, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. So if you grow up in an affluent family that is emotionally regulated and loving and compassionate, you get a lot of connection, you're going to develop some really great and compassionate and you get a lot of connection, you're going to develop some really great high emotional IQ qualities. You're going to probably have great self-esteem.
Starting point is 00:07:29 You're going to have a good relationship with money. So your beliefs around all those things are going to be downloaded into this computer system. You're then going to create a reality based on those beliefs. And that's typically what happens. If you're born into a poor family, maybe where there's addiction, abuse, narcissism, things like that, you're going to develop different types of beliefs about yourself, maybe unworthiness, or the world is not fair, or money doesn't grow on trees, I have to work really hard, you know, things like that. You're going to create a life that reflects those beliefs. This is how it works. Quantum physics has
Starting point is 00:08:13 proven that we live in a holographic reality. It's a holographic virtual reality that we are literally building moment by moment through the structure of the beliefs that we hold and the energetic vibration that we are. So when I say that everyone is innocent, you are innocent. You're only a product of the programs that were downloaded into the system. But the beauty of it is you are the controller of this avatar. And once your brain is fully developed and you can start to recognize what belief systems you're holding, what untruths were told to you, what corrupt files you're running basically is what I like to say. It's just a corrupt file. The files that you're running are what are producing the reality outside of you that
Starting point is 00:09:12 you see. It's kind of like when you send a file to a printer. Printer prints out a PDF. The PDF is like the 3D reality that you're looking at. So we're looking at our reality and it's only a product of the files that we're running. But typically we look at that PDF and we use it to define who we are, how worthy we are when it's only really a belief about that. It's not a reality. So the children's books, the reason I write children's books and I'm a coach that practices,
Starting point is 00:09:51 I've developed this method called Reparent Yourself, I help people to reprogram those belief systems. And all you need to do is simply reparent yourself. You just go back and you start telling yourself the truth and you undo all the lies. You are not unworthy. You are not undeserving. You are not stupid. You are not lazy. You may have those behaviors based on your beliefs about yourself, but at your core you are capable of rewriting every single program that is housed in this operating system. So the children's books help parents to have tools. They help to model behaviors
Starting point is 00:10:35 from the characters for the children to adopt so that they can start to adopt beliefs about themselves and the world that are more empowering, that allow them to truly create the reality that they want. My first series is called the Mindfulness Within series. Each of my book series, I have 13 series planned. Each series has three books, so I have 39 books planned. The first one is the second book in the first series called Mindfulness Within. And the reason I have three books is they're designed for three different age ranges to
Starting point is 00:11:08 cover the developmental gaps that are between the ages of zero and eight during where the subconscious mind is being formed. So the first one is for zero to three-year-olds and it's about mindfulness. So it's just introducing the child to its breath, that you have breath, that your breath can anchor you, that you can find emotional regulation by focusing on your breath. But it's just very basic for zero to three-year-olds, like breathe in, breathe out, like blowing a candle or smelling a flower. The second book that's coming out, Courage Finds His Calm, it's a rhyming book and it's
Starting point is 00:11:43 a story about Courage who has a castle, his castle falls down, a rhyming book and it's a story about courage who has a castle, his castle falls down, he gets upset, and then Callahan teaches him that it's not about what happened on the outside. Yes, the castle fell down, that's disappointing, we acknowledge that, but you can connect with your breath and you can calm your own system. You have the power to do that. You don't need anyone outside of you to do anything. You don't need a cookie. You don't need the castle to be back to feel better. Can I still have a cookie?
Starting point is 00:12:17 You can still have a cookie. Okay. And you may need a hug. You may need a connection, you know, to sit on mom or dad's lap or something or just have your feelings validated. And so what I teach in the reparenting method is basically this is how we go back and we do this for ourselves. And when you do it for yourself and you find a lot of compassion for your own inner child and you start healing your own inner child, this is the secret sauce to being a great parent. Because you don't really need to learn any parenting techniques.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You just need to learn to truly give yourself what you never had as a child. Stop waiting for anyone else to give it to you and you give it to yourself. And then you're compassionate to your own child and you can see that the relationship between your own anxiety and depression and codependency or people pleasing, you know, behaviors and how what you're doing with your child could be creating that once you start to understand it about yourself. Pete It sounds kind of like what you're trying to do is maybe teach kids self, or emotional intelligence, a higher level of emotional intelligence. Is that, is that a good analogy?
Starting point is 00:13:31 It's a hundred percent about emotional intelligence. It's, and adults as well, teaching adults how to become emotionally intelligent on their own. The thing is that no one's coming to save us. Okay. Yeah. no one's coming to save us. Pete What? Pete Yeah, no one's coming to save us. You know, we already have all the power that we need to have, and we're not going to find it in a relationship. Jesus isn't going to come give it to us. Jesus already showed us that it is already given, that we already hold it. He
Starting point is 00:14:06 modeled that for us by showing us that He is who we are Him, and that we have the capacity to tap into those same powers, basically, that He has by remembering who we are, by remembering that this is a holographic reality and it's all based on energy and frequency And that you're actually the creator of it. And I love the analogy use of the computer. Evidently I need to reformat my whole damn hard drive, uh, which is why the, my therapist recommends lobotomy, lobotomy. You can be happy again. Did I just do an ad? We reach out to some lobotomy experts.
Starting point is 00:14:42 I'm not sure if they're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if they're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if they're going to be able to do it. I'm not sure if they're going to be able to do it. this recommends lobotomy, lobotomy. You can be happy again. Did I just do an ad? Pete's voice is loud. Pete's voice is loud. Can we reach out to some lobotomist people and see if we can get them to sponsor the show? I don't know, I'm just teasing. Sorry to interrupt you there. No worries. They actually used to do that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Yeah, pretty well. And my mother had shock therapy and… Really? Mm hmm. I mean, and that's, you know, I know you're gonna wanna ask me this, I'm just gonna ask myself for you. Sure. You know, how did I get into this work and why am I so passionate about it is because of my own childhood. It's because of I, you know, was raised in a family where I felt very unworthy
Starting point is 00:15:22 and very undeserving. I am the youngest of eight children. My other seven siblings have a different father than I do. So, and my next sister older than me is only like 18 months older or 21 months older than me. So, and my mother was an alcoholic and she just got pregnant from my dad. I think they were married for a year. So I grew up in the single, you know, a single mother, alcoholic, eight kids, and they all had a different father's like basically a different life. Like they got to go to Disneyland with her grandmother and I didn't get to go. Eight different kids. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:16:02 Others are like, no, seven from one father. Okay. And then me. And then- So I was the oddball out. Oddball out. Like I was the youngest and so I grew up with these feeling unworthy, feeling undeserving, feel like I don't belong. I don't get to have the same things that other people have.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Plus I had a narcissistic alcoholic mother who had gone through a terrible amount of trauma and childhood abuse. And so she didn't have the mental capacity over the age of 13, really. And I say that with all love and respect for my mother, and I'm grateful that she brought me here to this planet, but she wasn't a great mother. And I had a lot of abandonment issues. And you can imagine being eight in that situation where I've pretty much raised myself after eight years old. And so, what ended up happening is I ended up marrying a narcissist at the age of 18. I met him, he's 11 years older than me, we were married for 28 years to beautiful children.
Starting point is 00:17:04 And although a lot of my life was really great, I will attribute that to the fact that I've always been really into personal development and spirituality. And I've been studying this stuff since I was like 16 years old. I've been reading things like Wayne Dyer and Marianne Williamson, I got into the course in miracles when I was 16 or 17 years old. And so I was already building a really strong foundation, but I didn't know I was worthy. I didn't feel worthy or deserving. And so I chose a partner that was an energetic match to that. He reflected back to me only what I believed about myself. I couldn't create a reality based on a belief that I didn't hold about myself. I couldn't create a partnership
Starting point is 00:17:56 where I felt like I was deserving, that I felt like I had control or, you know, there were so many things. But you can't do that if you don't hold those beliefs about yourself. And so, in 2015, I finally got a divorce after my kids had pretty much graduated college. It felt safe at the time, you know, then everyone was good. And I just decided that I was gonna start living my life. It was really a path that I needed to take to be in this controlling relationship where I was codependent, I was a people pleaser,
Starting point is 00:18:39 and I didn't even see it. I didn't even know it until I really got out of the marriage and realized how I had been like a dog chained in a backyard with, you know, not a lot of autonomy. And so I just decided, you know what, I didn't create the life that I'm not creating the life that I want or I didn't get to in that marriage, and nothing's going to stop me now. So, I just started doing research on, you know, how to live a better life. I got into Joe Dispenza, Bruce Lipton, I got trained in neurolinguistic programming, I got into energy work, spirituality, I actually did a spiritual podcast for a couple years and had
Starting point is 00:19:23 guests on every week and learned tons of different things. But I just started saying yes to everything and wanted to learn about absolutely everything. And the thing that really struck me like a bolt of lightning was just, I don't even remember what station it was, but I was listening to some YouTube channel and they were talking about how it was about money mindset, and how in order to create more abundance and money in your life, that you need to know what belief systems you're holding about money that are holding you back. And when I heard that, I was like, that was something I definitely wanted to do for myself. And I was like, it's a sub, they said it was a subconscious belief, and I'm like, a subconscious belief. So I'm not even aware of what that belief is. And then they were saying how, you know, you only use 5% of your brain, and that's the
Starting point is 00:20:20 conscious part of your brain. 95% of what we do is subconscious programming. So if you want to change your life, you got to know what you're running on a subconscious level. And so that just became my mission. And that mission really brought me to where I am today. I ended up becoming a life coach, getting trained. I have many certifications. I went back to school to get my PhD in integrative health medicine, which I'm still working on my PhD. And I just wanted to learn everything I could. A big piece of that was childhood development and conscious parenting because I then, you know, I learned the connection between those first seven years
Starting point is 00:20:56 and the subconscious mind being formed and the impact it has on the adult year. So I'm like, we got to hit it. We got to hit it from this side and that side. So the practice that I run now is that reparenting. I help adults to reparent themselves, to change their beliefs, and then I bring awareness and help parents and people, not just parents, because we're all around children. And I think we all, every single one of us need to understand how a child's mind is developed and how impactful our words are on a child. You know, even if it's just our nieces or nephews or our neighbors, things to understand like children don't understand jokes. Yeah. And that explains why they keep throwing stuff on my floor, food on my floor.
Starting point is 00:21:48 But wait, I think they think it's funny. I don't know. I tried to build a joke there and it just didn't come out. So, I love what you're doing and what you're talking about. And it sounds like your books are kind of designed to not only help children and adults, you know, adults realize, you know, that subconscious program that they've built in there. I mean, we all kind of have had, there's like lots of examples of that. I think we've talked about the show over the years, but also to help children to see if they can maybe get a mind's eye to look at what comes at them, maybe questions or choices. I was lucky enough to grow up in a cult with the, what's the word I'm looking for, with the vice grip of trying to cram ideas down my throat that didn't make logical sense. And, uh…
Starting point is 00:22:31 Like religion? Yeah, like religion, yeah. To be castigated to, you must just have faith and blindly follow whatever we say. And it's like, no, I need to understand why two plus two equals five with you guys, but the rest of the world is operating why two plus two equals five with you guys, but the rest of the world is operating on two plus two equals four. Does it equal five or four? I'm just kidding, folks.
Starting point is 00:22:52 It's Friday, so half the brain's working. That's why we need a reboot of the brain. But no, I love what you're doing there. And the kids can read the books. They can hopefully maybe develop some critical thinking of, you know, because I think kids kind of do that too, don't they? Don't they first question a lot of these paradigms that get thrown up? Like why does mama as we say, we're broke, even though she has money at the, at the counter for groceries, you know, when I tell her I want to buy the,
Starting point is 00:23:19 you know, the box of Froot Loops that will have me Froot Loop bouncing off the walls in five minutes. And she's, you know, she's going to go insane with it because I'm bouncing off the walls because I'm insane. Pete Slauson You're absolutely right. That's a really great point, Chris, because we have to understand how children see it from their point of view. So, from their point of view, I'm just not worthy, maybe. I'm just not deserving. If we don't use our words and explain things to our children,
Starting point is 00:23:45 we typically just say no, or you can't, or because I said so. We need to learn to really talk more to our children and explain things to them a little bit on a deeper level. Like, I had a client the other day, a father, who had hired me to help him with parenting, and he has a nine-year-old boy, a six-year-old boy, and a two-year-old. And he was telling me how the six-year-old boy, he's very athletic, and he took his own training wheels off and he just started riding his bike on his own,
Starting point is 00:24:14 because he'd been watching his older brother do it. And he decided that that's what he wanted to do. And his dad was telling me kind of, sort of proudly, yeah, and I was saying to him, you robbed me of my experience of teaching you how to ride a bike. I didn't even get to teach you, you just did it all by yourself. And he was lovingly joking with his child. And I brought to his attention that your child actually doesn't know that you're joking. They don't understand that. What they hear is, I disappointed dad by shining my light. I disappointed dad by being my best self. And what that can turn out to, if those types of things happen kind of frequently, or it could just be a one-time sort of thing, where they decide that
Starting point is 00:24:59 it's not safe to be their best, brightest, biggest light, because it may take away from dad and it may upset them. And children are very compassionate and loving and they don't want to displease their parents. So I'm like, you want to be very careful with saying, I don't recommend joking with kids like that. You want to just be, you know, great job. Look at that. I didn't even have to show you. That's fantastic. Because we want them to go out and do things without. It's not about us. You know, it's not about our ego. It's not about us needing to show them or getting credit for anything. It's about, we're just caretakers to these little beings to help them grow up to be their best selves, to be brave and courageous and authentic without feeling like there's
Starting point is 00:25:47 any fear or shame in doing that. Yeah. And that's a great start. I mean, I wish someone had told, why weren't you writing these books when I was a kid? Hey. It'd be a great start to try and deprogram stuff. I mean, at least one of the great things that came from that compression vice of growing up in a cult and just being rammed from every which way. I think my only salvation was when I finally found that there were voices in the world that were sane. And after being called the insane one for most of my childhood, I was able to find those voices like
Starting point is 00:26:26 George Carlin, I'm trying to think of other people that helped me. But George Carlin was a big one. I found that there were other people that had voices that believed in the same things I did or came to the same logical reasoning and conclusions that I did. And they weren't trying to just shove things at people and overwhelm them. So it helped me with becoming a better businessman because I would question things. I would learn to look outside of the box. I would learn to have critical thinking. I mean, that's basically what I did.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm like, I don't give a shit how mad you whipsaw me and batter me. I'm going to believe what I want. And I established that very early on. And so, I think this is great for kids because having that critical thinking when you're young and developing it and, you know, looking at your world through, you know, instead of just believing everything your parents told you, you know, like parents tell a lot of white lies that are designed to help you, you know, there's a Santa Claus, there's an Easter bunny, I hope I'm not ruining anything for anybody, but you can cry after. You should listen to the show.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Somebody's going to write me and be like, I thought Santa Claus was real. You know, you can always dream. But, you know, one of my favorite lies that my parents told me, and I think a lot of parents maybe get caught in this one is, is they taught me to lie, never tell a lie and be honest at all times. And then you catch them in some of their white lies and you're like, wait, you're full of shit, you know, and then you don't trust the world. But think about it, Chris, you, you couldn't, you wouldn't be the influence that you are on so many today.
Starting point is 00:27:58 And in this positive role that you have, had you not had the experiences that you had because it's made you passionate about it. And I'm in the same boat. I am so grateful to my experience with my ex-husband and the 28 years that I spent not having the ability to really make my own choices and have, it was more like one of those 50s marriages where, you know, like very patriarch type of thing. And like you kind of do as I say, and even though I worked and did a whole bunch of things, there was just this over, overreaching thing of you're the woman. So, you know, I get to have the final say.
Starting point is 00:28:33 And if I don't want you to go out with that friend, or I don't want you to go out for drinks after work, like you don't get to do anything I don't approve. If I didn't have that experience, I wouldn't be so passionate about authenticity like I am today. And I wouldn't be able to understand what a lot of women actually go through and help give them the tools that they need in order to, you know, break free of these cycles. I mean, I am like, nobody can make me do anything
Starting point is 00:29:08 I don't wanna do now. I check in with myself. And if it doesn't resonate with me and my inner child, I don't care how you take it. I don't care if it disappoints people. Like I'm not living my life for anyone else anymore. I wasted, I didn't waste it. I won't say that because that's not true.
Starting point is 00:29:25 But I went through training for nearly 30 years, and that's enough. That was enough for me. And I have this example, which I think really paints the picture. I'm remarried. I got remarried about eight years ago. And I was still unwinding these belief systems and these programs. That's why I've done a lot of the work in the past 10 years. I've done it on myself to be able to write these books and be a coach for other people. I've had to walk my talk 100%. And so I'm working through unwinding these behaviors. And my new husband could only be a reflection of where I was at at the time. There was not some, you know, perfect magical relationship. There was work to be done, but the foundation was very good.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And my husband still had, he had some, I'll call them like narcissistic behaviors that a lot of people have, but he wasn't a narcissist. It was more like learned patriarch type of behaviors. And so sometimes he would say things that were very triggering, like maybe a tone of voice, or he wouldn't validate my feelings or something like that. And something like that happened one day. And I was hell bent on doing my own work and self reflecting and figuring out like, where this came from and what I wasn't giving to myself, why I would be with someone who, you know, I would allow that, how it gave me the opportunity to learn how to set boundaries. I had to learn how to use my voice. So I had to show up differently
Starting point is 00:30:55 in this relationship than I did in my last one. I had to advocate for my own self in this relationship. And my current husband, who I'm still with eight years later, was very responsive to that. Like we were able to grow together because there wasn't blame, it was just recognition, observing, recognizing, you know, learning, changing, growing. And so one day I got triggered by something and I went to go outside and sit by this little river that we had by our house to emotionally regulate. And as I was out there, I was doing some reparenting of myself, talking to my inner child, letting her know that, you know, I had spoken my voice and just been like,
Starting point is 00:31:35 I don't appreciate that tone, but it totally triggered me. And so I needed to go regulate. And I'm telling my inner child, like, no one gets to talk to us like that anymore. And if it means that we get a divorce, it's okay with me. Like, I will not tolerate it anymore. And I will use my voice and I will ask for it. And if it's not well received, and the door is right there. Like, I'm just, I'm not going there anymore. And so she's, you know, she's pretty happy about hearing that. And so I was calming down and I asked her, you know, what it is that she wanted. And we were supposed to go, it was my husband's mother's birthday, and there was a party, I lived in Denver at the time, and we were supposed to go to downtown Denver to Union Station to have this nice birthday dinner. And she said she didn't want to go to dinner. She just
Starting point is 00:32:25 wanted to stay home. And I want to add that there was no judgment on my part to my husband, because he was only a product of his own programming. He was only running his own beliefs. And it was my job to just set a boundary, not make him out to be the bad guy. And then it was his up to him whether he could respond to that or not. Everything was happening just like in the now moment. We're not doing anything. I wasn't reacting. I was responding. So he comes out to the water and he says, he apologized. we had a little conversation about it. He was able to self-reflect and see how, you know, what he did was not kind. And I just, my minimum standard is kindness. Say whatever you want to me, but say it in a kind tone,
Starting point is 00:33:18 say it with respect. And so he understood that. He said he was sorry. And he was like, it's time to go. I gotta go to mom's birthday. I said, oh, yeah, I'm not going. And he giggled. He said, you have to go, it's mom's birthday. And I said, I actually don't. I don't have to go. And I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Because I've spent my entire life at the time I was like 48 years old, doing things for other people, abandoning my own self, and I'm not doing it anymore. My inner child needs to trust me. She needs to know that I'm going to build the life for her that she deserves. She needs to know that if somebody doesn't treat me right and it makes me feel bad and I need time to regulate, maybe I want to go take a bath right now, she gets to go take a fucking bath, excuse me, maybe I shouldn't have said that on the show. Pete No, you're fine. She gets to go take a bath.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Pete We're fine. Pete And so, he would just kind of swallowed hard because I had set the boundary in the relationship, I had set the standard and I gave him the option with no, you know, the standard. And I gave him the option with no shame, if this doesn't work for you, if these boundaries don't work for you, you don't have to do this relationship with me. But I'm not in fear anymore. I'm not trying to hold on to a relationship out of fear of, I don't know, being alone or whatever it may be, I'm just advocating for myself moment to moment and I'm trusting that if I am true to my authentic self and I love myself, that everything is going to work out just fine. And it has. And here I am 10 years later, I live in paradise, I live in Mexico, I am married to the same man, I have a thriving coaching business and children's books and I'm healthier than I've ever been in my life.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I've decided I'm reverse aging, which I am. I'm 56 and I feel like I'm 35. And it's because of my mindset, it's because of the beliefs that I've chosen and it's because of the experiences that I've had that have made me who I am and just, you know, so hell bent on never going back. Pete Slauson When you're sharing with others, let's give a plug out before we go on your coaching on what you do, how you do it there, how people can reach out to you,
Starting point is 00:35:39 what sort of clients do you work with? I think you might have mentioned you work with a lot of women, how do clients qualify to work with you, etc., etc. Sarah? I work with all types of clients. My sweet spot is really women who are in toxic relationships or healing from them because I have that experience myself. But I have to tell you, I work with a lot of men too. For whatever reason, men seem to feel really safe with me and I'm teaching reprogramming so I really can work with anyone on whether it's addictions or, you know, parenting or anxiety, depression. But you can find me at reparent-yourself.com.
Starting point is 00:36:13 I did write a book also, Reparent Yourself, to find healing in all your relationships. It's not available for pre-order yet. We're still working on that with the publisher. I'm big on TikTok and Instagram. I have lots of videos that I post daily there. And you can work with me one-on-one. I am currently working on building some online courses that you can take, but my sweet spot is really the one-on-one. I build my programs specifically to each client to help you become healthy in all your relationships, whether it's with yourself, with money, with time, with your children, it doesn't matter. We're going to do a complete reboot of your belief system and it's going to impact your entire life.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Pete Slauson People, reach out to you and give us those dot coms as we go out one more time. Pete Slauson Reparent-yourself.com and awakentheone.org. Pete Slauson Thank you for coming out on the podcast. We really appreciate it. Lisa Lundberg I appreciate you having me. It's been fun. Thank you, Chris. Pete Slauson There you go. Thank you, Lisa.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Very insightful. And if we, you know, if it's better to learn these stuff as a child as opposed to seeing your therapist, I was trying to fix it 50 years later. Lisa Lundberg You know, Chris, I can't even believe it, but I need to say one more thing. I'm launching a Kickstarter campaign to raise money for the other two books in my children's book series. I forgot because it was supposed to launch today and we had a little bit of a hiccup, so it's going to be out.
Starting point is 00:37:39 I know when this podcast comes out, it'll probably be out. So we'll have the link available for you to go to the Kickstarter campaign and you can buy the children's book through the campaign, which will support us in getting the other two books in the series out. So thank you. Pete Thank you, Lisa, for coming on the show. Thanks, Doron, for tuning in. Order up the book or pre-order it wherever fine books are sold. Courage Finds Us Calm out August 5th, 2025. And check out her other books and get involved with some of the works that she's doing and future books.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Cause you know, we need smarter kids in this world. I, you know, we talked in the, in the previous shows about how we need to teach some of these lessons in school and maybe get people to fix their trauma in school and maybe less calculus. Unless people are really into that. Uh, yeah, half of my self-esteem was destroyed in high school of being of trauma in school and maybe less calculus, unless people are really into that. Yeah. Half of my self-esteem was destroyed in high school being taught things that I would never fucking use when someone should just taught me how to get therapy. Yeah. I'm a big purveyor that, you know, I mean, we have psychiatrists in schools, I think, or at least we used to,
Starting point is 00:38:41 I don't know, school nurse or somebody, but somebody but or teacher I had a psychologist teacher who's pretty good at analyzing me and also giving me Fs anyway but I mean he was nailing it anyway thank you for turning in everyone go to Goodreads.com, Fortress, Cris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Cris Foss, Cris Foss, Well in the Tik Tok, and all those crazy places the kids on the internet play. Be good to each other, stay safe, we'll see you next time.

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