The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Daniel Spencer, Life Coach on Surviving Electrocution Twice, Losing Over 140 Pounds, Becoming Sober & Helping Others Overcome Fear

Episode Date: September 4, 2023

Daniel Spencer, Life Coach on Surviving Electrocution Twice, Losing Over 140 Pounds, Becoming Sober & Helping Others Overcome Fear Instagram.com/reps.and.doubletime About Daniel Spencer I’m Daniel Spencer. I’ve been through hell, and back. I’ve been sober for over 12 years. Abused marijuana and alcohol as a teenager, into my late 20’s. I’ve been married almost 20 years. With 3 kids ( one “adopted” niece) ALL teenagers. Almost divorced. Total body transformation, I was almost 300 pounds, and now I am 160 lbs. I was in a near death electrical accident, twice. With 3rd degree burns to my face and multiple skin graft surgeries. I’ve found my purpose in life. To tell my story and share my healing process through physical fitness and a strict diet. I’m now an online life coach, who is helping fellow humans gain their self confidence and gain mental strength through the same process that I’ve adopted. Hopefully you can help me inspire more people through your platform. If I could tell my story on your podcast, I know we could help save at least one person. Thank you, and God Bless.

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we have an amazing gentleman on the show. Daniel Spencer joins us on the show. He's a life coach, husband, father, and he has one of the most amazing stories, if not the most amazing story we've ever had on the show. Not a lot of people have been through the journey that he's been on, and he's going to teach us a lot about overcoming fear, recreating oneself, hewing oneself from being incredibly overweight, et cetera, et cetera. He's been through hell and back. He's been sober for over 12 years. He abused marijuana and alcohol as a teenager in his late 20s. He's been married

for almost 20 years with three kids, all teenagers, and almost divorced. He's gone through a total body transformation. He was almost 300 pounds and he's now about 160 pounds. He was in a near death electrical, electrical, it's Monday people, electrical accident twice with third degree burns to his face and multiple skin graft surgeries. He found his purpose in life out of all of this. And now he tells a story and shares his healing process through physical

fitness and a very strict diet. He's now an on life life coach who's helping fellow humans gain their self-confidence and gain mental strength through the same process that he's adopted. And he's here to inspire more people, and I think you're going to find his story is unlike any you've ever heard. Welcome to the show, Daniel. How are you? I'm good, Chris. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you very much for coming, and give us a.com or wherever people can find you on the interwebs to interact with you more,

get to know you better, and reach out to you. Yeah. My Instagram handle is repsanddoubletime. And I also have a Facebook. It's Daniel Spencer. And I have a Facebook group also. It's called Phoenix Fitness. Oh, there you go.

There you go. So Phoenix Fitness, the Facebook group, and then you have a Facebook group also. It's called Phoenix Fitness. Oh, there you go. There you go. Phoenix Fitness, the Facebook group. And then you have a YouTube channel as well. So give us, so we got that down. Give us a 30,000 overview of who you are and what you do basically for your clients and other stuff. Yeah, I'm a life coach. I like to say I'm a life coach by accident.

I'm a power lineman by trade and a father and a husband by purpose you know um growing up i kind of really didn't i was just kind of lost wondering my wife found me and gave me a purpose you know that was to be a husband or father got into the power line company. And after my accident, I started getting into life coaching and helping people overcome a lot of the same things that I did. You know, having total body transformation, it's hard work, but it's very possible for everybody. Overcoming fears and self-limiting beliefs is what i suffered with majority of my life and i use nutrition and physical fitness as a way to overcome lots of those obstacles there you go and as we mentioned in the bio uh you've overcome a lot you've had quite the hell of a journey so give us a hero story i mean we, we kind of, uh, we kind of gave us an option.

Tell us more about your, uh, movement through life. What, what got you down the road that you did? How'd you grow up? And, uh, and now you're here. I grew up normal home. Um, I have an older brother. Parents were together, blue collar, dad, mom stayed at home and just out of nowhere. Uh, one summer I was in the sixth grade uh just finished sixth grade and they said that they were going to get a divorce and that's kind of just where everything internally just started taking a downward spiral you know uh found myself uh alone a lot of a lot of loneliness and i started seeking comforts in the wrong people and the wrong habits you know started getting myself into marijuana acting up in school and that continued up into high school into adulthood so let me ask you this what were you did your father end up leaving the home

and how old were you when that happened he did i was 12 years old and he moved out and then my mom had to work two jobs um just to try and make more ends meet and you know it was just empty home most of the time did you did you blame yourself for it i mean some some children they internalize and and think that maybe they were to blame for their parents thing uh that's a you know that's a that's a hard age to be where you're starting to go from a child to a man and and you know not having a father around or father in the home can make a huge difference in in your development yeah i mean i didn't really blame myself um you know my dad was still around you know he would he would come visit on the weekends and and you know we'd go see him quite a bit but i didn't really i didn't blame myself

but i was definitely confused on the reasons why you know because you know parents never argued a whole lot they there was no fights in the house or nothing it was just kind of out of the blue yeah and one of the big challenges we've had psychologists on the show is children aren't really developed to understand, you know, the dynamics of what's going on with human beings and adult relationships. And, and so it's very confusing for them. You know, they, they're, they're kind of lost and it sounds like you, you went through some, you were kind of, you started acting out and started responding to it in different emotional ways. And you said you started drinking very heavily too.

Yeah, I did. It started with, with marijuana abuse really first and then into high school, you know, going to high school parties at Friday nights after the football games. And so when my, my dad actually ended up moving back down, um, well, we moved down to Southern California with him. So we kind of transitioned from living with my mom to moving with my dad. We moved down here to Southern California and it was a total culture change.

And once he got to a certain point after I graduated high school, he decided he wanted to move back up north to my childhood home, and he was like, you know, you have a choice here. You can move with me or, you know, find a place to live. So I didn't want to start all over again. You know, I had a whole new set of friends, a whole new way of life, so we decided, my brother and I decided to stay down here, and that's kind of where I started entering the workforce. a whole new way of life. So we decided, my brother and I decided to stay down here.

And that's kind of where I started entering the workforce. I was just over 18, 18 and a half. And I needed to supplement my money. I felt with what I knew, which was marijuana, you know, um, instead of just always spending money to buy it,

I figured I might as well just be the guy that everybody comes to for it, you know. It's a get high on your own supply is cheaper, I think. So there you go. So how do you, you meet your wife, I think, or prospective wife, and you go down that journey, and then you get in the business of being in the, let's call it the electronics business for comedy. Yeah, power line, power line trade. The power line trade, there you go. of being in the, let's call it the electronics business for comedy. Sure. Power line. Power line trade. The power line trade.

There you go. Shocking business to be in. There's probably a lot of jokes there. So tell us how that comes about, and then you have a fateful tragedy. Yeah, that all happened really quick. Right after I was about 21, I just turned 21. And I met my wife where I used to work at. And right after that, like I instantly fell in love. You know, like I said, I was lost all through my adolescence into my young adulthood. I was lost. I was confused. I, you know, suffered from slight depression and she hit on me, you know, she picked up on me and we kind of hit it off right away. I didn't want to leave her side. I just, I was like job opportunity, yeah, with the city of Los Angeles to work for the public utility. And everything just started happening from there. I, you know, my pay doubled. I had great health benefits. Right after that, we ended up getting married, having our

first child and life just, it flourished know everything was going great but at that time now that i had a commercial license i couldn't smoke weed anymore uh right away i told her what i was doing i was like i'd sell weed and she's like i don't agree with it i don't like it so it's like no so that kind of went out the window right i? I didn't need to supplement my income. I was making good money. Yeah. But I still had this internal pain that I was dealing with without a healthy outlet to get it off. So, you know, I started drinking more. Wow. I started drinking a whole lot more.

Probably put on some weight during that time? I did. I did. I was drinking a whole lot and more money. We'd go out to have nicer dinners, treat ourselves a little bit more. With dinners came drinks and with the food and drinks came lots of extra calories. And I ended up gaining, I ended up gaining a hundred pounds. Wow. Essentially. Wow.

From the time I started up until the time I had actually quit drinking, which was after my first accident. Yeah. I gained a hundred pounds. Damn. So you tell us about the two accidents. I mean, this is, it's going to be intriguing to people. Um, give us a synopsis of those and, and what went into it. So the first time I got, um, electrocuted, I was actually electrocuted with 2,770 volts. Holy crap. Yeah. Yeah. It was, you know, I was a four-step apprentice at the time and we were taping up a temporary splice. We were putting waterproofing tape on a temporary splice and the the seniors who that's a senior position when they were putting the insulating tape on this connector the tape kept ripping and ripping and we didn't know um so

we ended up it was me and another apprentice he actually made full contact with the phase and i came to potential which means like my body became electrified and then I grounded out on my leg. So I suffered third degree burns on my leg and, um, he ended up needing skin grafts on his hand. And after that, I was off of work for a month, but I didn't seek therapy. I didn't seek counseling. I was full of fear. A big part of me was full of self-doubt because when they talked about what the job plan was going to be, I had an idea of how to make the connection better, but I didn't speak up on it. Right. I didn't listen to my conscience to say, Hey, yes. Yeah. And that was what made me so mad about the whole situation was that I didn't speak up.

You know, I lacked the confidence to speak up on it. There you go. And then the second one. And do you think about quitting at that point in time? Like, hey, maybe this isn't the right business to be in i mean at that point you probably have a it creates a a fear anchor kind of in you where you know you have some tragedy like that before you and you know you kind of question the universe and you question what you're doing and and uh maybe your wife also was like hey what the hell's going on over there man this is maybe we should find something else to do the thought definitely came across but i mean i had no other skills i had no other skills right after high school i got into the easiest job i could get which was schlepping boxes in a warehouse you know and my uncle is the

one who actually told me to get into this trade um so i took a one college course which made me eligible for the test and that i mean this was all i knew um it was either continue for another eight months and become a journeyman or fall back into uh the position that i started in which was you know it made good money but not fairly enough what the potential was um there you go so what happens with your second accident then my second accident so at this time this was just over two years ago this was um april 27 2021 um at this time i had already promoted twice uh so i was an apprentice my first accident became a journeyman promoted into senior cable splicer. And we were working in an underground vault.

It was, we were working in a link box and switching, trying to de-energize a section of, of a circuit and communication broke down. Communication broke down. We weren't following procedure. And again, my self-talk, my conscience, I didn't listen to it because knowing that we weren't following procedure, I kind of thought about our game plan and what i i came up with a better solution to what we had agreed with but i didn't speak on it again and it bit me in the ass again um this time it was way worse um i wasn't electrocuted this time it was all um arc flash it was all arc flash burns. It was all thermal burns just to the skin. Wow.

And luckily, you know, it was life-threatening. So I actually thought I was going to die. It should have only been a fraction of a second because the circuit breaker, you know, we have system protections on our circuits. circuits well the circuit breaker we were working on actually failed and instead of shutting off in a fraction of a second it took two full seconds for it to actually shut off um and it it was yeah it was one of the most traumatic things I've ever experienced in my life. I was off of work for five months. I spent 10 nights in the hospital, two skin graft surgeries. And while I was off again, that's when I actually had the, the idea and the thoughts of, I need to figure out a different line of work um i i was even more scared to go back and questioning my my skills and my ability as as a journeyman as a worker

there was a lot of self-doubt i can imagine the pictures that uh you know you talk about on your instagram where you inspire a lot of people and you you've got your site over there you've got the pictures of the skin graphs you've got a huge giant wrap around your face almost looks like your your head is mummified in a uh in a giant cast it was uh it was all gauze it was gauze and bandages um yeah and i i share that quite a bit um just for the fact that a lot of my followers are in are in the trade and you know the the risk is there it's there every single day it's there with every job we pull up to and you know i i put it on there as a reminder to everybody to i mean first of all follow procedures wear your ppe properly but second of all you know to listen to your conscience there you listen to

that voice inside of your head that's telling you this is what's right and this is what you should be doing when we know that we're engaging in apps that are not going to benefit us definitely definitely so at this point are you still pretty heavy overweight at this point no yeah so i quit drinking when i started losing weight was in 2000 and um i think it was 2011 2012 okay february is that after the first shock then? It was. Yeah. The first accident was August 2011.

And I mean, after that, I just dealt with it with the same way that I dealt with all my other internal problems, which was alcohol. But this time I wrapped it up. I was drinking even more. Damn. I would leave the job site, go straight to the liquor store. By the time I drove home, I would be drunk. Wow. And that's when I really was at my heaviest.

Wow. Now, your transformation, people really need to go see this on your Instagram page, is extraordinary. You've got your before and after pictures. You've got the pictures of you shocked. You are, I don't know what the right word is because i'm not a gym i mean i go to the gym but i'm not like a gym term guy

but you are you you have a incredibly hard uh muscle frame that you built on what probably 160 pounds yes yeah i mean you are completely all muscle from some of the pictures i'm seeing just just uh you're jacked. I think, is that the word we use in the gym? I hear a lot. I hear a lot. You look like a 20 year old. You are built.

You got a six, six or eight pack abs. You, you, you're, you're built like a 20 year old, you know, like I see these 20 year old guys and the 55, I'm like, God, I wish I could do that. Uh, I mean, you, you, you look like you're completely rejuvenated health-wise body-wise muscle-wise i'm sure your wife's really happy with you um how do you how do you go on this journey where you decide to overcome not only the fears you go back to the job that's almost killed you twice with the electrocutions and these accidents you go back to that you overcome your fear of that and then you start your online presence of a brand where you're working out inspiring other people how do

we move into that uh first first the first way i did it was facing that fear you know just being totally honest with myself um i took a% accountability, even though I had another partner there with me. I bared all the weight of this pain and this accident on myself, and I was just completely honest with myself. This time after the accident, I sought out a psychologist, so that helped me understand some of the things that i did right after it all went wrong when i got back to work they finalized the investigation and i was doing it i guess a safety tour you know i was going with the safety section when they would present my accident and i would get up and speak about it every single meeting i was was doing two, three a day sometimes. And every time before I'd go up, my heart would be pumping on my chest. I'd be scared. I'd relive this moment. So just reliving it every single day, I kind of got rid of some of that

fear. I definitely, when my conscience calls me into action, I do it. If it's telling me I shouldn't be doing this, I don't do it. If it's telling me, hey, you should speak up on this situation, I speak up on it. So you got better at listening to yourself, listening to your conscience, kind of getting to know yourself better, trusting yourself more. Yes. There you go. Absolutely.

And how do you translate that into building your online coaching presence and inspiring people? Kind of getting to know yourself better, trusting yourself more. Yes. There you go. Absolutely. And how do you translate that into building your online coaching presence and inspiring people? You've got the videos of you working out that's on there, pictures of you. I mean, your body transformation is extraordinary, dude. People really need to go check it out. You've got the skin graph pictures that are up there. And to go from that to here and stay in the same line of work, how did you develop it where you started deciding,

hey, I want to be a coach. I want to help other people. I want to inspire other people. I want to motivate people to improve their lives and go the distance. And you're proof putting on your website. Yeah. During my time off from my accident, I used the gym as part of my therapy i would wake up in the middle of the night with nightmares and i couldn't go back to sleep so i'd go work out in my garage and i i would work out two three times a day and

during this time off i was building good muscle definition and a lot more people were asking me because I had already lost about 80 pounds before this accident. But after the accident, I started using the gym more. I started getting more muscle definition and a lot more people were asking me, dude, I really noticed the changes. What are you doing? I, i you know help me out and i just didn't know how to show everybody i didn't know i didn't have the tools as far as what apps to use for for tracking the foods or for putting the workout together because i knew how to meal prep i knew how to put a nutrition plan together i knew how to structure workouts but i didn't know exactly how to offer it. So I hired a coach and he showed me how to present my story on social media,

how to use social media as a tool to reach other people and what apps to use as far as training online for food tracking, for figuring out people's nutrition properly and for building workouts that are customized to every client so i so i do it and i follow his plan and you know i'm helping people from all over the world really um transform their minds and get these get years back on their lives you mean because people yeah they they ask me how old are you and i tell them and they don't believe it you know i take my daughter who's 18 out to lunch or you know to the store and they think oh is this your brother is this your friend and she says no this is my dad yeah well i mean you're in really good shape like i

said you you've got the body of a 12-year-old going on. And, you know, people can see what you're doing. I mean, you're proof positive of what you've gone through and stuff. And you've gone back to what you do. I mean, you're still dealing every day with, you know, I'm sure fear is still, you know, I'm reading a book right now from a secret service agent that talks about how even when you have a certain fear of something that's anchored really hard you're still going to experience but it's really kind of how you

deal with that fear uh we talked in the green room about stoicism did stoicism maybe help you get through this marcus aurelius meditations and other things or did you just kind of find that as a good mind base um yeah i think having self-actualization really helps at first right and i didn't know anything about stoicism or or any of um you know the teachings of marcus aurelius or seneca or anybody but once i got into my coaching program or once i hired my coach and he gave me a list of tasks that, you know, you're going to do. Um, cause he said, if you want to hire, you know, if you want to gain clients, you know, you need to tighten it up, you know? So he put me on a nutrition plan. He helped me with my second half of my transformation. And he's one of the tasks

that he had given me for my day, which what i you know i have my clients do is wake up in the morning and journal and get into something positive some positive media that's you know like watching youtube videos on stoicism or reading the books um about personal development and one of them that i came across was Meditations by Marcus Aurelius. And actually, my dad gave me a book. It's called Three Magic Words. He gave it to me when my daughter was first born. I tried reading it, and it made absolutely no sense to me. I just couldn't, I couldn't connect it with myself. That was the first book that I started reading when I got into his coaching program and I couldn't put it down. I couldn't put it down

because everything was just connecting, right? It was about, you know, personal self-talk, personal development, tap it into your inner consciousness and being more self-aware. And, you know, that's part of the process and that's part of finding yourself and answering these questions within yourself. And, you know, what am I doing wrong? What do I need to do to fix it? And we're not going to negotiate ourselves out of the work that comes along

with creating those goals that we have for ourselves there you go uh and so you've been on a hell of a journey i mean and you've overcome a lot i mean uh most people you know they they have a small cathartic crisis in their life or sometimes it's not small it's not small to most people at the time but they they overcome it uh and then they go and help people with their story you've been electrocuted twice you've had the challenge of being married for 20 years almost getting divorced uh you know you i'm sure being a father of three has been a journey for you that you've learned a lot but then you know becoming sober losing over 140 pounds uh uh let's not add any more negative

things to your stack i think you're done through the negative things does that sound like a good deal at this point yeah um you know you know life doesn't happen to us it happens for us you know and preparing ourselves daily that's why i still do it that's why i still get up every single day early i get up at 24 45 and that's why I go to the gym. I push myself physically. I, I test myself with limiting my, my caloric intake. Because if we don't prepare ourselves, you know, during times of peace, then we're going to fail during times of war.

Right. Um, that's all Chinese proverbs. It says, uh, I'm probably going to butcher it, but it says, you know, you have to prepare during times of peace so you don't bleed during times of battle. There you go. Yeah, and we never know what life's going to come.

You know, in Stoicism, they talk about memento mori and other things that deal with, hey, you know, you know your mortality, take care of today, be present today. And, you know, and I think preparing for the worst. I mean, that's definitely the thing, because if you're, if you have that discipline of mind, which is what you've developed in controlling our fears, in dealing with our feels from our fears from a logical reasoning aspect of it.

I have a fear of mispronouncing stuff on the show. Evidently. Uh, and, uh, you know, going through all that, um,

you're prepared because life is going to come at you and, and there's probably more challenges for everyone that comes, even though we go through stuff. Uh, what do you find you help most clients with? What do they come to you requesting most they struggle with? And give us kind of some overview. Is it how you help work them through that?

I think the biggest one that they struggle with is weight loss. Weight loss. And they say they don't have the time. Because a lot of my clients are in the trades, right? Construction trades, which we put in busy crazy hours and a lot of people say i don't have the time and i just need to lose 40 50 pounds a lot of it it might be due to um scares from doctor visits so you know i once they come to me and we figure out what they're, what they're struggling with,

I structure them with proper macros to keep them to maintain lean muscle, build lean muscle, burn the fat. And I structure a workout program for them. That's customized to their schedule, to their abilities. And also i give them these tasks you know we have to look deep in within ourselves and really face these these

things that we use as excuses for for our vices and our crutches and we're just going to eliminate that right because i say that you know i'm a coach. I'm a mindset coach that's based on fitness and nutrition. You know, we use those as tools to strengthen our our our mental fortitude. And one of one of the biggest wins that I've had as a client, I'm sorry, as a coach is one of my clients was saying he was drinking daily you know the same way i was and after the first two weeks you know we have uh have a weekly team meeting uh via zoom and he goes hey coach you know i might not be losing a whole lot of weight you know or whatever but he goes i got rid of all my alcohol i was like dude that's that's amazing yeah that's awesome and if you're gonna get healthy kick the alcohol man i drank hard for 20 years uh half a bottle of vodka pretty much every night or

every other night um for me it was like a fuel um to get you know i've been an entrepreneur all my life but it was a fuel to you know get that extra juice and you know work on extra files work late do stuff you know multiple companies so you know i was always burning at both ends and and so alcohol is like a fuel it's like a sugar fuel for me where i'm like hey i'm tired i'm all stressed out i'm all my muscles are tight and i'm like i'll i'll drink some. And for some reason, me being able to relax with alcohol, it just, I could, you know, just keep running and running the machine. And, uh, I didn't have an addiction. I could, you know, I, I, it was, but I was,

I was doing what's called abusing it and abusing myself. And of course I was, had a lot of weight, um drinking lots of mountain dew eating all the worst foods and um yeah now my body loves me i don't drink anymore i eat healthy uh i'm kind of veganese there's a million different versions of veganism so don't write me um but uh basically you know i still eat meat but but on a very rare occasion. I've lost 100 pounds. I'm still losing weight and intermittent fasting.

But yeah, eating right. I tell people, get off the booze, quit eating all the shit, and don't wait until you're 50 like I did to make some changes. I made, oh, I made significant changes in 2000, probably when I was in 40, about 47, when I lost my first 75 pounds. Um, but you know, don't wait till you get to the end of your life. Cause it's so hard to claw back,

uh, you know, at your age and other ages, uh, younger, uh, it's, it's a little bit easier,

but still, I mean, when you let yourself go that far it's it's it's work to come back you know it's not like when you're 20 where you just go i won't eat for a couple days you lose like 30 pounds yeah i mean constantly procrastinating the work that's entailed is it's just going to end up prolonging you know the long-term effects and make the road a lot a lot harder plus the damage you do your body i mean there's a famous rock star uh smash mouth that died recently of alcohol uh addiction and and uh destroying his liver i think you believe he

just passed away today and uh so there's an example of of how bad alcohol can really impact you and and it's really not good. You're really toxifying yourself. Yeah. I mean, not only that, what you're doing to yourself, I mean, what you're doing to your family, you know, because it almost cost me mine. Wow. My wife was telling me all the time, Dan, you're drinking too much. It would make me just shut everything out.

You know, I would think, well, it would make me happy. It would make me just shut everything out you know i would think well it would make me happy it would make me joyful and playful you know i wasn't an angry drunk or nothing like that you know so i was thinking well as long as it was making me seem happier everybody would be happier but on the contrary it was ruining my marriage you know yeah and and uh you're not present you know you're tuned out and uh sometimes you need to be tuned in and i uh, you're not present, you know, you're tuned out and, uh, sometimes you need to be tuned in. And I gotta tell you, uh, not, not drinking the money I used to spend on expensive vodka. Uh, the money is to expend, you know, I go out to eat now, but when I eat, like the other day, I went to a nice restaurant and I think it ended up being two meals for me. So I have brought

the other half home. That's pretty routine when I go out and, you know, that calorie control, but you're doing such a great job, inspiring people. How can people reach out to you, get to know you better,

talk to you about online coaching them and, and, and, and just onboard with you, if that's possible, if there, if you, you guys are a fit.

Yeah, definitely follow me on Instagram. Send me a message through instagram reps period and period double time r-e-p-s um my facebook daniel spencer you can those are probably the best two ways right there i'm constantly on instagram you know either posting content responding to messages responding to comments um that's right now that's that's the best that's the best way to get a hold of me and i i answer every single message and you know i have people that i help that don't sign up to be my client you know because that's just part of giving back

right that's i believe a lot of what happened in my life um is based on karma and the accident i believe was was karmic debt just you know wanting to take a little bit of change back so i i i give back as much as i can so some of that karma doesn't get passed on to the people that i care about the most there you go and if people go to instagram you're going to be inspired uh he's there uh showing his workout his uh his physique i mean he's a he's a hard body uh did you take any testosterone supplements for any of this or is this all working out i'm taking this i was taking natural supplements um at the time when i got to my lowest my my body fat percentage was pretty low. My fat intake was very low. Right. So, um, I didn't very got blood work done or anything, but I started taking, uh,

Tonga elite. Oh yeah. And, um, yeah, so I was taking that. Um, and then once I started reverse dieting and I started adding a little bit more fat into my diet, um, the natural energies just started coming back. but as far as supplements go i mean i take i take creatine monohydrate glutamine and uh just multivitamins stuff like that that's basically all i take there you go i've been you know i'm at the age 55 where you have to start looking at testosterone that's why i was asking um you know and you have to start looking at your testosterone that tonga and lee, and there's probably a lot of other supplements you take like I do. I take the glutamine daily, multiple times a day, you know, different things like that.

You know, there's a whole different regimen. And, you know, now that I'm 55, it's like the amount of pills I take is extraordinary. I feel like that. There's a guy, have you seen the guy who spends $2 million a year to try and reverse his aging? Have you heard that story and seen that guy? Yeah, there's a guy who takes like $2 million. He spends $2 million to try and reverse his aging.

It's kind of funny to see him do it because you're like, you might just get hit by a bus one day, dude. Not that I wish him any harm harm it's just uh i don't know man that's a it's a hell of a lot of money and trying to reverse your aging is different but you know you're doing a hell of a job people can see the physique you have and people really need to see it um so uh i think people should check it out you put up a lot of motivational stuff and uh you know the discipline, you know, some people, some people look at the gym and, and, and I'll, I'll talk about this journey.

Cause I saw someone making fun of someone at the gym. Uh, I was on a Tik TOK and someone had posted a video making fun of a, a guy who was kind of fat and out of shape. It looked like maybe he wasn't, um, you know, maybe he had some birth issues that didn't make him the smartest tool in the shed. And he's there just taking the bar and doing a core spin like this with the bar. And he's not really pushing himself. There's no weights on it.

He's holding a barbell, which is, or the bar, which is actually pretty heavy. I think sometimes it's, what, 30, 50 pounds? 45 pounds, usually. Yeah, and he's doing a core thing where he's spinning his core like this. Well, he doesn't look like, you know, he's, you know, Mr. Arnold Schwarzenegger doing the thing. And so someone posted a trolling, hateful video online making fun of him. And one of the gym dudes who's, you know, like you, uh, posted a video like, Hey man, don't make fun of these people. They, they, they showed up, man. They're,

they're on the journey. They, they overcame what most people can't do. Um, and, uh, uh, you know, he's, he's, uh, uh, you know, showing up to have the battle, man. I mean, there's sometimes I don't want to go to the gym and I just go, okay, drive there and, you know, maybe go sit in the sauna or, you know, just go there and just maybe start doing something. And then some, sometimes when I go there, I just like, it's like a muscle response. I just kick in, but just going to the gym, man, it's half the battle. And it's, it's not a battle people need to realize with my little rant here is, is it's not a battle of your body. It's a battle of your mind. It's a discipline thing, right? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I mean, you could see, I mean, a lot of people,

you can go look on my page and say, wow, that's really motivating. It's motivational. I want to start going to the gym on my own right they might not seek me out for help or they might not seek anybody out for help you know the motivation will get you going but the discipline is what's going to keep you in there right the discipline is what's going to help you reach your goals and and and that discipline is everything because sometimes you don't feel like going to the gym sometimes you're like oh, Oh man, I can skip like day to day or, you know, whatever.

And, and you know, sometimes I've, sometimes I've gone, I've tried to do arm day and I'm just like, I don't want to do arm day. Okay. Well,

you're going to have to get on the treadmill. You're going to, you're doing something while you're here. Um, you know, sometimes I go sit in the hot tub, the sauna, saunas are like really amazing for your body,

I guess. Um, and so I'm glad you're helping people with your journey because you you have a hell of a story man and you've overcome it and and i think most people would have quit your job and you've gone right back and climbed on the horse again so uh definitely people should tune into you and be inspired by you uh i think it's what i you know we've, we've been doing this for 15 years now. Uh,

we never had anybody on the, on the show. I think it was shocked once. We might've had somebody shocked once, but shocked twice. Holy crap, dude. And you go right back to it.

Uh, any final thoughts as we go out? Um, you know, we all have limiting beliefs and we all have things that we think we're never going to climb out of this hell. Whatever it is that you're struggling with, seek somebody out that's been through it. You know, if it's alcoholism, if it's addictions with porn or problems in your marriage, you know, substance abuse, seek somebody that's been through it. Seek somebody that will give you the right tools to help you overcome whatever it is that

you know, you need to make yourself better with. You know, that might not be me. That might be a different coach. It might be for a different problem, but whatever it is, you absolutely have all the power within you to gain strength and overcome those things. Definitely. And tune into your, your, your Instagram, you know, we get a lot of coaches and people on the show and tune into your your your instagram you know we get a lot of coaches and people on the show and people that you know hey i've been through this journey and and i want to minimize them but uh you know looking at the journey you've been on

and the proof is in the pudding man uh you know i i've had a couple coaches i've come across that are living out of their car we find out that they're faking their success you you look at your pictures man you can't fake you can't fake the journey you're on and where you've gone from a to b man i mean it's extraordinary and it's inspiring thank you that's part of what i try and do you know is uh take take my clients and and make them undeniable. The work. Make the work show with what you show up with. And if you fix the mind, you fix the body, and you can become whole again. It's pretty awesome, man.

So thank you very much for coming on the show, Daniel. This has been really inspiring, and I super encourage all of our listeners to go check out his Instagram page because it will blow your freaking mind. It's extraordinary and it's even giving me uh I'm gonna go to the gym after this it'll blow your face off you know maybe maybe that should be your tagline I'm the coach that will blow your face or I don't know uh there you go uh well Daniel thank you very much for coming on the show uh thanks for tuning in thank you uh thanks for tuning on the show Thanks for tuning in Thank you

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