The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Dawn Cady, Success Guide, Intuitive, Certified Holistic Therapist, Owner and Founder of Alleviate Pain

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

Dawn Cady, Success Guide, Intuitive, Certified Holistic Therapist, Owner and Founder of Alleviate Pain Alleviatepain.com.au Show Notes About The Guest(s): ​ Dawn Cady is a certified holistic specialist healer, multi-award winning pain expert, and founder of Alleviate Pain Incorporated. She suffered from chronic pain for 31 years and used to take 13 painkillers a day. In 2014, she created the Neural Alignment Method, a multi-award-winning process that combines over 120 healing tools and techniques. Dawn Cady is dedicated to helping people break free from pain and suffering and live their best lives. ​ Summary: ​ Dawn Cady joins Chris Voss on The Chris Voss Show to discuss her mission of alleviating the world's pain. Don shares her personal journey of overcoming chronic pain and how she developed the Neural Alignment Method. She explains the six steps of healing, which include taking responsibility, acceptance, hope, belief, knowing, and being. Don emphasizes the importance of self-care and self-empowerment in healing and offers practical advice for rewiring the brain to achieve optimal health and well-being. ​ Key Takeaways: ​ 1. Chronic pain often originates from emotional energy that gets stored in the body. 2. Taking responsibility for your life and circumstances is crucial for healing. 3. Acceptance of the present moment and what is allows for growth and transformation. 4. Building hope and belief in your ability to heal is essential for progress. 5. Knowing your power and standing in it empowers you to make positive changes. 6. Being the person you want to be and taking aligned actions leads to transformation. ​ Quotes: ​ - "I teach people how to wire their brain to be the best version of themselves." - "If it's in one person, it's in everyone. We're all carrying a load of rubbish." - "You are not broken. You're just carrying some stories that make you look like you're broken." - "No one can heal you. It's you healing you. I can just give you the quickest, fastest, shortest way." ​

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And you will emerge smarter from it. And that's a guarantee. You can check on the back of the label, The Chris Foss Show. It says right on there, the guarantee. Anyway, guys, we have an amazing young lady on the show today, and we're going to be talking about everything that she does. She's got an upcoming book as well. Dawn Cady is on the show with us today. And she has a mission to having the, how having, I want to say half, half, but halving the world's pain one person

at a time. And we're going to be talking about everything that goes into her work, her website and everything else that she does. We'll get into that in a second. But to her, she is a certified holistic specialist, healer, multi-award winning pain expert. She's America's or Australia's, America's, Australia's, same thing, right? No, they have koalas, we don't. She is Australia's premier pain freedom coach founder and owner at alleviate pain incorporated she suffered from chronic pain for 31 years and she used to take 13 painkillers a day she learned how to walk again even though doctors told her that she would be disabled the rest of her life. In 2014, she created the Neural Alignment Method,

a multi-award-winning process that unites over 120 of the world's best healing tools and techniques. The Neural Alignment Method successfully passed two years of clinical trials and was incorporated into Aleve Pain online and offline programs. She's also highly specialized in the emotional freedom technique, acceptance commitment therapy, neuro-linguistic programming, process work, energy work, and explain pain methods. And her expertise is to guide people on how to break the cycle of their suffering so they can be free to be whoever they want with ease, clarity, and power. And now she's here to give us in the first person tell us how

you know it all works welcome to the show dawn how are you i'm good thank you for having me chris and i'm going to take that on board half the world's pain i'm going to change it there you go there you go where does your accent originate or originate from yeah i'm not australian obviously i'm from the north of england where yorkshire puddings are made ah yorkshire there you go and give us your dot coms where do you want people to find you on the interwebs honestly i'm not that big on social media but you can go on to facebook and there's alleviate paying page where we post a lot of things my linkedin profile which is dawn katie but honestly i'm it's

word of mouth the work that i do and i love speaking to people thanks why you're here there you go you are speaking to people now uh and then give us your dot com for your website yep so it's alleviate pain dot com dot au okay sounds good then and so give us a 30 000 overview www.alleviatepain.com.au. Okay. Sounds good then. And so give us a 30,000 overview of what you do in your words. Wow. Okay. So I teach people how to wire their brain to be the best version of themselves. Ah.

In a nutshell. There you go. And a lot of people have got their brains unwired. Well, a lot of people have wired their brains to please other people or to abide by the laws of what everybody else thinks that you should be. That's true. And wired to pay and wired to suffer, wired to feel like death every day. I feel like death on Fridays. That's what we do around here just for fun. Yeah.

Give us your journey of your life. We mentioned a little bit in the bio, and it sounds like you went through some things and got through them. So tell us, what was your upbringing like and all that stuff? I had an interesting upbringing. So I was an only child. Like I said, I'm from Yorkshire. And my mom struggled with mental health pretty much my entire life.

And I think that having me, a child, was just too much. It was just too much. There was a lot of neglect severe neglect abuse on all different levels she wasn't coping with life and that is why I believe that I ended up with so much pain and suffering because I wanted to please to be seen to be loved and cared for so I would do anything to get attention for love and that led to my demise multiple times health-wise. Wow and so you're we're we're pretty much exhibiting you know the issues you're going through with the uh and turning it into physical pain and ailments? Yeah so by the age by the age

of about 16 I'd already had about eight procedures. Wow. So I had a hell of a lot of health issues growing up, and it just progressively got harder and harder. Each time I'd come down with something, it'd just break me, and then I'd have to rise again. Wow. So like autoimmune diseases, three autoimmune diseases I had by the age of 35.

Wow. Yeah. Disabled, left disabled, nearly lost my son through kidney failure. Well, early stages of renal failure. So quite a lot of horrendous things. That's why I do what I do. There you go. Yeah. Yeah.

Lillian's chiming in here. Thank you for bringing Dawn on the show. Thanks, Lillian. We certainly appreciate it. Some fans there. Now you do this work. How did you discover this work where you're able to heal yourself and now you heal others? What was the awakening moment there was my son was 16 months old and he was jumping around on the lounge and he jumped on my back and the pain just ripped through my body and I remember just screaming I wish you'd never been born wow and that hit me I was like oh my god I'm recreating my mother. I'm becoming everything that I wanted to not be. So I just went into this state where I didn't speak for a while. And that was the point I crawled from the living room because I was housebound for 18 months. And I went into bed and I was in the fetal position for hours.

And that's when I was just like, right, I've got to end it because I'm going to just destroy my son's life. I'm going to destroy my husband. And I talked myself out of it. It was like this higher voice, like this certainty and this knowing that I'd had my entire life. It got me through very treacherous situations. And it was just like, it's not true.

The things I was saying was like, just kill yourself. You're disgusting. You're worthless. Look at you. You're worse just kill yourself. You're disgusting. You're worthless. Look at you. You're worse than your mother. You're pathetic. And that was just pounding in my head. And this voice just went, it's not true.

And I just held on to that. And I just pulled myself out after a few hours. And then that's the start of it. Wow. And so what methodologies did you discover first because you do a few different methodologies so it was emotional freedom technique the tapping so i was in the living room and i'm like okay if i'm going to get through this i've got to get off of these painkillers i was on opioids like i was on some strong stuff yeah and i was on 13 of them a day. We're not talking like Panadols and Neurofens and anything.

I'm talking hardcore drugs that I was on. And I just went, you need to give me help. Like gritty teeth, you need to give me help. No word of a lie. Within two minutes, ping my phone went and it said, become an emotional freedom technique practitioner, reduces pain. And I went, signed up, learned how to do it for myself. And then that's how I, the first thing that I did was break my opioid addiction.

Wow. Emotional freedom technique. Wow. It came right through the phone. That's like serendipity. Yeah. A lot of things in my life have been like that, Chris. Wow.

Well, sometimes, you you know we find the things we want when we're searching for them or something thanks to marianne great work for bringing dawn on she will wow people so you've developed quite some programs you've got your book coming out let's get a plug in for that book too so i don't want to forget that yeah so the book is going to help people through the journey of what we have to go through as being human, navigating life. I mean, it's a game, but we get caught up in it and we don't have fun anymore and everything is hard work and we get on the grind. And that's what ages us. And that's what has our nervous system acutely aware all of the time of our situation and circumstance.

So we can't get out of this cycle because we've programmed ourselves to be in it. So pretty much this is going to share life stories, how I came out of it, how other people have come out of their stories, techniques and things like that. So it's going to be like a manual for people. There you go. And you've got several different programs and modules I see on your website. Tell me about your offerings there and what they do. Yeah. So what I've recognized is that there's three main areas that people have the most horrendous situation circumstance. Number one is health. Without your health, forget everything else. I know what it's like when your health is gone nothing else

really matters yeah your relationships start to break down when it becomes an issue it just it just has this major and knock-on effect so one of the programs that we have is teaching people how to look after themselves mentally physically and emotionally so that they don't get as bad as i did or if you are as bad as i am, how to pull yourself out of it, how to program your brain. And that's the six steps that I talk about. Because those six steps is a framework for the brain to follow so that it doesn't be in victim, like victimhood, stuck in the cesspool of pain. It's to help people pull themselves out into freedom. The second area of life is relationships. so people experience a lot of pain in their relationships either with their children with their partner with their family members so that's

another program that we offer where we're teaching people how to navigate and be sovereign in relationships and not be a walkover but also not not to be a bully and not to be hard and to recognize that everybody is in this game of life together and we're all struggling in parts. We're not perfect. And anybody who tells you that they're perfect and they've got their life together are full of shit. Full of it. Absolutely full of shit. I've done a hell of a lot of work on myself and there are still areas that I have to improve on.

And that is what the game of life is about. How much more can you stand in your power? How much more can you be powerful? You know, you've got to constantly improve. It's always a game of survival. Yeah. And money.

We're launching that one next year, but money, well, I need to say more money. Yeah. A lot of people have issues and emotional connections to money exactly yeah the so you have the six steps of healing why don't we talk about these a little bit step one's responsibility what does that mean responsibility means that if you don't

take responsibility for your life and how it is unfolded for you, what happens is the brain hides information from you. So if you are like, oh, it's their fault, it's their fault, it's their fault, the brain will go, okay, so you're not taking responsibility for your life, so I'm only going to show you what you want to see. You can't heal if you're only seeing what you want to see. You heal with the stuff that you really don't want to see. That's the stuff that gets you out of these situations and circumstances.

There you go. And then the second one is acceptance. It is what it is. Life throws us curve balls and sometimes it's just a shit show and you've got to accept it and go, you know what? I don't like it. I don't want it. But if I don't accept it, I'm fighting it and I'm resisting it.

Therefore, I'll never see the solution. I'll be just trapped in the problem. And the problem is where you stay in pain and suffering. Yeah, it is what it is. Stoicism, if you will. Hope is step number three. So hope is about you stacking evidence externally in your world that this way of living is freeing you. So then your brain starts to create neural connections and pathways going, if I take responsibility for this situation, see where I need to clean up, where I need to see what is going on for me. And if I accept the situation, I get through things quicker. The brain goes, ha, and it starts to engage the prefrontal

cortex which then has you view and see the world completely different so this is where the brain starts to kick in and starts to go i'm gonna start backing up what you want to do here because it's working i feel better there you go teaching people to deprogram and then reprogram their mind for what they want their health to be. So what are some of the causes of chronic pain and what causes that sort of thing have you found? So with chronic pain, generally, everything starts emotionally. So I don't know if you understand about energetics, but everything on this planet is energy, vibration frequency quantum physics you can go research about everything is energy energy is emotions energy in motion that's what emotions means energy in motion it's got to be moving constantly and if you hold on to emotions and you hold on to things traumas things that happened to you in the past they get

stored in the body eventually that energy in your body can't move freely so it starts to lock up so you might get a stiff shoulder you might hurt your back you might have a stiff neck you might not be able to walk things start to break down when energy can't move and so how do you reprogram your mind following the six steps it's as simple as that you've got to take responsibility if you if you're projecting blame onto other people and saying it's your fault then you can't change anything because then they're more powerful than you if you're saying that something outside of you is more powerful than you then your brain goes well what's the point in trying because I'm only going to fail. But if you take responsibility and say, I'm more powerful than the pain, I'm more powerful than my upbringing, I'm more powerful than the three autoimmune diseases.

The brain goes, oh, right. Cool solution. I'll look for solutions to solve these problems then. There you go. So step number four was belief, coming back to these. Yeah. So this is where you start to believe and your beliefs start to be entrenched

as neural connections and pathways. So you start to believe, oh, this is working. And then the prefrontal cortex, when a belief, so say, for example, you have a belief that I'm worthless. And then you're building a belief of, no, I am worthy. It creates a neural junction. So if you use this one, the new belief, 40% of the time, this starts to collapse. But whilst this is in junction, the prefrontal cortex the ceo of the brain wakes up and goes hey do you believe this or do you believe this

interesting so step number five is no talking over you i'm so passionate on it no you're right so no is where you were like i know this i know that i am more powerful than the pain i know that i can get through the situation and circumstance when you know you know exactly what i'm talking about here chris when you when you stand in your power and you know something you won't stop you just you won't give up it's it's important to stand your power i mean that that makes all the difference step number six be and do yeah so you start to translate that in your actions you start being that person that is all of those things and then you start doing the things without even realizing it.

Just becomes natural. And then you catch yourself when you're not and you're doing something that's the old way and you start seeing it. Obviously, you're going, that's not me being powerful. That's me giving my power away. That's not someone who's doing something from a place of power. That's someone who's hiding and running away. And you start to see where you're giving your power away and what does it look like when people are giving their

power away how what how does it look like in in application great question so for people in physical pain giving the power away is going oh i can't go out to dinner because the pain consulting the pain every life decision they go and consult the pain oh i don't know if i'll get oh i don't know if i can do i don't know that's why you're giving your power away when it comes to pain when it comes to painkillers is when you go i can't function without those painkillers that's you giving your power away to painkillers when it's emotional pain it's going i'm going to make the most emotional comfortable decision right now because it's short-term gratification it's instant gratification but if i make a decision right now that's emotionally uncomfortable but in the long term it's going to serve me then that's you giving

your power away to your emotions saying that your emotions are more powerful than you, that you can't in that moment feel what you're experiencing. In relationships, it's allowing people to walk all over you and saying yes to things that you really want to say no to. Children, allowing children to overrun your life and they're not listening to you, they're not respecting you. So many ways we give our power away. Yeah, it's important to keep it to ourselves. Let's see. What was the other question I had for you? What is acceptance commitment therapy? So acceptance commitment therapy is whatever comes in, you just accept it and feel it so say like for example you feel anxiety instead of reaching for tablets or trying to ignore it or push through it's just a feeling go where am i feeling it in my body i'm feeling

in my chest my chest is really heavy okay that's okay and just sitting with that heaviness and not judging it and and when you do that what happens so what happens is is you're not fighting it everything is about if you go to war on things you'll create a war we all have war inside of us that's why it's translating in the external world we're all at war on some level inside of us with choices with decisions with relationships with money we're at war so what we've got to do is we've got to stop the war inside of us and we've got to find peace with inside of us because if we don't find peace inside of us how the hell are we going to create out there there you go uh what how does energy healing work energy healing is basically working with

emotions it's working with so i can sit with someone and i can go you have anxiety i can feel what people are experiencing so i can be on a call with so i run a lot of groups and i can go someone's got shoulder pain in the left someone is feeling anxious now and they're struggling to breathe i can feel that and that's what energy work is it's your nervous system is all about energy. It's a conduit between the body and the brain or body and mind. Your nervous system is the one that reads energy. You know this.

When you walk into a room, you're like, there's been an argument. Or you walk into the room and you're going, someone has had sex in here. You can feel energy. You feel it, don't you yeah it happens in most hotel rooms i walk into in vegas or is that the smell it could be that too it's usually that and sometimes they're still there doing it and i'm. My bad. Well, that's a big giveaway, isn't it? The door was open. My bad. Sorry, mom and dad.

So the emotional freedom technique, how does that utilize? So how I describe emotional freedom technique is, is a part of the brain called the amygdala that's positioned here. And it's a fight or flight response. So it goes, hey hey chris we've had this situation before and this is how we responded to it and it worked we survived we didn't die that's the amygdala it's a stress response system and then the nervous system is the one that has the physical impact on your body so it's not the amygdala that does it it sends a signal to the body of how to react so what emotional freedom

technique does is it almost puts your nervous system into a hypnotic state so it goes it's okay you're not going to die you're safe so if you have a traumatic experience say for example someone cut you up and you can't stop replaying that i nearly died they could have killed me how dare they? How rude? And whatever profanities that you're saying in your head about the person. And then you go to work and you're talking to people and telling everybody and you're telling everyone about how horrendous this is.

Your body still believes it's in the car experiencing this experience constantly throughout the day. You go home, you tell your partner, you tell your kids, you tell your neighbors. Your body is now on hyper alert it thinks that it's going through this time every time you share it then what happens is it doesn't come out of that and it gets locked in the cycle and that's what happens with chronic pain so yeah it goes in a loop and what emotional freedom technique does is it puts the nervous system in a hypnotic state and allows a stress response to just go and explode

and go, this, this, this, this was awful. He was a bad man or a bad woman. And how dare they put me up, da, da, da, da, da. And it allows the story to be told, all the emotions to be released out of the body without the nervous system going, we're going through it again, we're going through it again we're going through it again it's interesting how the body can store trauma and and and stuff like that and and create disease and pain and other ailments it really is it's quite it's quite interesting but you know you mentioned kind of the basis of what it is. It's kind of a prevention or a reminder technique of re-experiencing the pain.

But the mind gets, like you said, confused. And it thinks it's still in that fight or flight state. And that causes a whole lot of issues. Lots of great stuff from the audience coming in. Six Steps of Power of Healing. So powerful. Thanks, Natalia. Or is it Natalia?

I'm not sure if I got that right, but thank you. And Charms of Love. Lovely tuning in from South Africa, all the way from the South Africa folks there. And so what have we talked about that you do and you do on your website that you help people when you're coaching them and helping advise them? What was that again? Sorry, Chris. What haven't we talked about? Is there anything I haven't touched on that you help people with?

Well, the thing is, the best information and best advice that I can give people is if it's in one person, it's in everyone. We all think that we're the worst or whatever it is, whatever story we're telling ourselves we think that everybody else has got their shit together it's not true and if it's in one person it's in another you know people are going oh and i've got autism we're all autistic it just depends on what level of the spectrum that you're at you're either severe or you're at this everything is in everyone because it's energy so it comes through

us it's whether we decide that it has a major role in our life or not and what are we going to serve do you want to serve something that builds you up or do you want to serve something that tears you down you've got to decide what you're serving are you serving you or are you serving everybody else and people go well that's selfish no it's not you know this when you're on a plane. What do they say to you? You've got to look after yourself first. You don't look after yourself, then how can you help anybody else? If you're putting everybody else before you

and then you die, your life is over, you know? But if you look after yourself, you can live longer and help more people. So you also have a Telegram channel. tell us about that and how that works oh so the telegram channel is sometimes i get this is where my strangeness comes out i get messages come through about what's going on in people's lives and in the world so like what's going on energetically. So I can read the energetics.

It sounds weird, but imagine a radio station has a frequency and you tune in. I can tune into frequency of what is happening and what people are feeling in the world and how to navigate if it's showing up in your life. And having an impact on you and everything that goes on there. So very interesting, very interesting stuff. So as we go out, give us the pitch out to people on how to onboard with you, how to reach out with you, utilize some of the services and products you have on your website. Yeah. So the six stages of healing is a really good framework and you can get that from my website. You can go to sixstagesofhealing.alleviatepain.com.au forward slash

framework that will give you pretty much a summary of what I've shared today and a little bit more information you can even get the ebook and it's hardly anything it's like three dollars fifty with a video training attached to it because I believe that I'm here to help as many people as possible you know if we heal ourselves we can then change the pollution outside. There's no point addressing pollution outside when we're polluted inside. Because that's not going to be a permanent thing, is it? You're going to go out there and you're trying to fix things outside. You start with yourself.

You start with going, where am I polluting? Where am I polluting my immediate environment? I'm polluting my immediate environment with anger with rage with frustration with pain with suffering clean that up before you go out there trying to clean the planet up you're gonna start with yourself we're too busy focusing on everybody else instead of ourselves stay in our own lane is what we're here to do very true you know there's so many problems in the world that are being caused and suffering from broken people. And if those people would just fix themselves instead of sharing all their crap with the world, we'd probably be in a much better place, right?

Do you know what? I just want to take that a little bit further. We're not broken. That's a load of BS. Oh, really? The development industry is spouted out there. You're broken. You're just carrying a load of bs that the development industry have spouted out there you're broken you're just carrying a load of shit it's my favorite word we're carrying that's a technical term then so yeah it's a technical term we're carrying baggage after baggage after baggage

that we've forgotten who we truly are do you think a newborn child is an asshole no it's a beautiful newborn child that is pure of heart. And then life gets to it and it carries all this stuff. You're useless. You're worthless. You're not good enough. And it carries all of these untruths. So it's not that we're broken. It's that we're carrying a load of rubbish, a load of nonsense, and we're believing it. And we're playing it out over and over again. And then we go out there thinking that we're broken. We're not. We're just carrying some stories that make us look like we're broken. Give the illusion that we're broken. We're not broken.

Far from it. There you go. Well, that clarifies it. So give us your.com as we go out so people know where to go to your website and on board with you. So alleviatepain.com.au and if you go there with some freebies there's loads of stuff on there i give loads of stuff away for free there you go and uh charms of love says dawn doesn't bs about the truth i love her wisdom and then marianne

says it's a lot easier to focus on others i mean i think that's the problem right the people instead of focusing on themselves and fixing themselves well that's work lot easier to focus on others. I mean, I think that's the problem, right? The people, instead of focusing on themselves and fixing themselves, well, that's work. Let's just focus on everyone else's problems. And there you go. Exactly. That's the responsibility right there, Chris, because if you're not taking responsibility,

you're going, I'm responsible to help that person heal. I'm responsible. And this is what a lot of therapists do. Their own life is shit. And they're going out there and trying to fix other people you need to heal yourself before you even go out there and thinking about helping other people because you're projecting what you want to do for yourself on other people psychotherapists actually have a lot of they have a high suicide rate next to dentists from what i

understand at least here in america so it's kind of interesting that the people who are supposed to help help with your mind have a high suicide rate you're like but i don't know if i had to hear people complain about their personal lives all day long i probably wouldn't it doesn't look like a fun job do you know what i was actually i studied psychology and the truth is most people go into psychology to heal themselves and understand their own life. And it's secondary to help other people because helping other people makes them feel good about themselves. Yeah.

So we're not putting therapists down, but generally that's why most people go into it. I went into it with a completely different perception. I went in there going, I know of my stuff and I'm healing my stuff and I won't see people until I'm at a point where I'm not triggered. Yeah. A lot of people that I meet that do go into psychotherapy, they have so much trauma that it's cheaper just to learn the business than to pay somebody. It's kind of a

self-healing journey sort of thing. So thank you, Dawn, for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. You're welcome. And that's the best thing is healing yourself that's what we teach you we teach you how to heal you don't give the power to someone else and say that someone healed me no one can heal you it's you healing you i can just give you the quickest fastest shortest way besides we know bullshit there you go thank you very much don for coming on we really appreciate it you're welcome thank you Thank you, Chris. Thank you. And thanks, Aris, for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, fortresschrisfoss, linkedin.com, fortresschrisfoss. Subscribe to the big LinkedIn newsletter

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