The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Deeper Days: 365 Yoga-spirations for Inner Calm Amidst Chaos by Andrea L. Wehlann

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Deeper Days: 365 Yoga-spirations for Inner Calm Amidst Chaos by Andrea L. Wehlann Amazon.com Ganga-moon-yoga.square.site In a world full of war and unrest and everyone voicing their discontent ...as loud as they can while just trying to keep up with the impossibly fast pace, being able to stop and take a breath is more important than ever to help keep us from completely losing our mind. Deeper Days is a lovingly crafted book to get you moving through the world with love, to help you take a moment to breathe, and find stillness in daily reflection. It guides you along your yogic path to realizing your divine potential. It’s a guide to yoga, but not in the way you might think: no downward-facing dogs or pigeon poses here. Instead, the book takes you back to what yoga is really about: yes, physical postures but also the mental and spiritual practices—including meditation—that will help you find inner peace. Structured around the eight limbs of yoga as described in Patañjali’s Yoga Sutras, Deeper Days provides a set of 365 short messages of daily reflections for women. Each comes with a phrase at the end—a mantra of sorts— that summarizes the core message of the day and that you can use throughout the day as a reminder of what to focus on. But you don’t have to complete yoga teacher training or be an adherent of Hinduism or Zen Buddhism or any other philosophy to find value in Deeper Days: this daily reflection book is also a practical guide to how you can incorporate the concepts it describes into your daily life so that you can find inner calm amidst chaos. You can see it as a travel guide for your journey around the Sun, helping you find your personal path leading you to your magnificent heart.About the author Andrea L. Wehlann: Bestselling Author, Award-Winning Poet & Transformational Guide Andrea L. Wehlann is a bestselling author, award-winning poet, and the visionary Founder & CEO of Ganga Moon Yoga & Reiki Skool in Beamsville, Ontario, Canada. With a BA in Psychology and a Diploma in Social Services, Andrea uniquely blends her extensive professional background with deep personal insight. She is a certified Usui Reiki Master and meditation teacher, bringing a rich, holistic approach to her work. Andrea's compassionate guidance stems from her own journey of resilience and transformation, having navigated profound personal loss, abuse and trauma. These experiences fuel her mission to help others move beyond overwhelm and emotional burdens, finding inner peace and healing. She is the author of the acclaimed poetry collection "No Matter How Dark the Stain" and the transformative bestsellers "Deeper Days" and "Stillness in the Storm." Through her Healing Alchemy: Somatic, Yoga & Poetry, Soul Awakening Method™, Andrea empowers individuals to cultivate well-being, stress relief, and spiritual growth. Ready to find your path to inner peace and transformation? Explore Andrea's books today!

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Some guests to the show may be advertising on the podcast, but it is not an endorsement or review of any kind. Today we have an amazing young lady on the show. We're going to be talking about her books, her insights, and how to improve the quality of your life. Because that's what we do here on this Dern show. We try and improve the quality of people's lives. And if we don't, well then hopefully we made your life worse.
Starting point is 00:01:35 No, I'm just kidding. We don't want to have that kind of vibe going on. That's what the kids say, vibe, eh? I'm just learning this. Anyway, she's the author of the newest book called deeper days, 365 yoga aspirations for intercom amidst chaos out November 14th, 2022. Andrea L. Whalen joins us on the show. She's going to be talking to us about her insights and all that good stuff. We're going to learn how to, you know, get some peace from the
Starting point is 00:02:04 chaos. It's 2025 is recording this. If you're going to learn how to, you know, get some peace from the chaos. It's 20, 25 is recording this. If you're watching 10 years now from YouTube, like you do, don't write comments. And, uh, yeah, there's a bit of chaos going on. A couple of wars, a couple of bombings, a couple, you know, drums, bombs being dropped on other people. And that's just my dating life on Friday night. Andrea is a bestselling author, award winning poet and transformational guide.
Starting point is 00:02:27 She, uh, is the visionary founder and CEO of Ganga moon yoga and re reki reki school. I'm not sure I'm pronouncing that right. I always get that wrong. Reiki reiki reiki reiki school in beams, Ville, Ontario, Canada. We love Canada, uh, with a BA in psychology and diploma in social services, A, Andrea uniquely blends her extensive professional background with deep personal insight.
Starting point is 00:02:54 She's certified, I'm gonna get this wrong again, UC Reiki, a master and meditation teacher who also knows how to pronounce it I'm sure. Bringing a rich holistic approach to her work. Welcome to the show, Andrea. How are you? Andrea Maldonado Thank you so much. Pete Slauson Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Am I pronouncing the Yusai Reiki? Andrea Maldonado Do it? Pete Slauson You were going to write me, so help me. Andrea Maldonado Usui? Macau Usui is from Japan. Pete Slauson Oh, really? Andrea Maldonado Yeah. Andrea Maldonado And you got the Reiki, right?
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah. Pete Slauson Yeah. Andrea Maldonado Reiki, man. That's what my dad used to make me do when I was a kid, do the Reiki. But maybe this is something different. We'll find out. So, give us your dot coms. Where do you want people to look you up on the interwebs to get to know you better? Andrea L. Whalen Yeah, you can find me at Ganga Moon Yoga on Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram. Also, my author name, Andrea L. Whalen, which is spelled a little bit funny for people.
Starting point is 00:03:45 It's pronounced Whalen like Jennings, but it's spelled W-E-H-L-A-N-N. You can find me there on Facebook, on Instagram, LinkedIn, YouTube. I have a YouTube channel with some free videos and information, so welcome to find me there as well. And you're based in Canada, but you work with clients, I think, all around the world there and coaching and we'll get some of this in a bit, but I just figured I'd make that establish that. We love Canada.
Starting point is 00:04:10 You guys have the best comedy you send to us, uh, from up there. And then you guys are always the decent people. I was, I always tease my Canadian friends. I'm like, you guys are like the sane brother and we're like the idiot brother that you have to live with who's always starting wars and problems and you're just like when those idiots get new For the shit. They're up to we have to die with them for the love of God, you know guys like the Billy Bush of Billy Carter of fucking you know, we're the we're the Billy Carter you guys but no, I'm a big Rush fan and Right up the street from me actually.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Just one block away. That's so cool. Are you talking to the members of the band? Yeah. Holy crap.
Starting point is 00:04:56 Yeah. I thought you knew that. That's why you said that. I'm like, that's the reason we had you on the show. No, I'm just kidding. No, I might come try to Right? I'll take it. No. So, I might come try singing this so I can stalk my favorite fans. And then people say I'm Ricky on Trailer Park Boys. Might be true, might be not, I'm not denying it. But yeah, so there might be some A in a Boots in the show today. So give us a 30,000 overview
Starting point is 00:05:19 of what's in your book, Deeper Days. Yeah, Deeper Days is my favorite book. It is how to stay calm amidst chaos. And it started because during the COVID lockdowns, my yoga studio that I own, Ganga Moon Yoga, was shut down like many other businesses. But for me, I have an event that I've been doing since 2012 and on the beaches of St. Catherine's around Lake Ontario. I live on the beaches of St. Catharines around Lake Ontario. I live on the Great Lakes, Lake Ontario. So on the beaches pre-COVID, my yoga
Starting point is 00:05:51 event on the summer solstice filled the entire beach. So I started at 11 people in 2012 and right now summer solstice yoga on the beach, like you could not see sand if you see some of the photos, it's quite incredible. So for me, I knew that everyone was still out there. For me, as a yoga teacher and a small studio owner, I knew that my students were out there, people weren't allowed to go out, but they were there. So how could I reach them? How could I touch their heart? For me, the biggest learning shift that I did was a daily practice, a course in miracles, learning how to transform every thought from fear into love. So for my yoga students, I took that practice that I was doing and all of my yoga wisdom
Starting point is 00:06:36 from my teachers. I had three significant teachers, one for eight years, classical yoga, Jeevan Goyal from India, a Zen Buddhist teacher teacher and a half a yoga teacher. Pete I like classical yoga. They have good string section over there, classical yoga. Jai String, okay. Pete I'm doing a classical music joke. Jai Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Pete It was, it wasn't that good anyway. It was really bad. Jai I thought it was a see-through yoga pant joke. Pete Sorry, no, that was in the, yeah, that was there. But no, it was a classic music joke. But yeah, it wasn't that good of a joke. Sorry. Sorry. No, that was in the, yeah, that was there. But no, it was a classic music joke, but yeah, it wasn't that good of a joke. Sorry. It's okay. It's okay. Jokes allowed. So anyway, long story long, the consciousness of everybody has lifted.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Yes, I went to Brazil and Climb Mountaintops and went and sought teachers and all of these things and that's really wonderful. But what I learned is you don't need to go anywhere anymore to learn these concepts. And so it's really easy. 365 yoga inspirations are in this book. What does that mean? It means it's one little paragraph of self-inquiry for each day. Just while you make your morning coffee, you can open the book and read one sentence that will transform your thoughts, get you thinking something different, see things in a different way related to my teacher's teachings. And at the end, there's a mantra.
Starting point is 00:07:53 This one I opened up here is, we are always in motion, life is a dance. So, anytime throughout the day, if you can bring your mind back to remember we are always in motion, life is a dance, you are essentially staying connected from your head to your heart. And it's a yoga practice, it's called the art of concentration. It's yoga, but it's also Zen, it's been passed on through sages for all kinds of years, this art of concentration. Pete I always find my body's in motion right after coffee in the morning. Not sure what that's about, but yeah, bodies are always in motion.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Kind of an inspirational thought where we're constantly going through the… Let me ask you this, you know, you talk about how, you know, we're in a world of war and unrest and lions and tigers and bears and, you know, all this stuff going on, economic, whatever, and infighting between nations and, you know, animals sleeping with each other. The… That's not good. The… Why is it helpful to use yoga to try and… what are you doing with yoga to try and bring
Starting point is 00:09:00 your mind away from this stuff, focus, you know? How does that reground you? Or maybe I just answered focus, you know, how does that reground you or maybe I just answered the question there, but how does that help? Let's put it that way, I guess. Kirsten Cahill When you can stay, when you, so you have four energy centers in the body. You have your spiritual energies, you have your mental energies, your physical energies, your emotional energies. To yoga means to unite. So let's just blow open the doors of what yoga is. It's not the ladies on the cover of Yoga Journal in a big twisty
Starting point is 00:09:33 posture. To yoga is to bring two of your emotional energies together. You yoga, you unite them. This is yoga. So how do we do that? We focus attention on the breath. Right? Because then you're connecting your two energies. When you do that, what's the point? It's just like putting energy in the socket. It's you, but you're functioning with more of your energies aligned. And it's so amazing. Then you're more in line with your creative part of yourself and less with the reactive part of yourself that just goes and goes and goes.
Starting point is 00:10:08 According to culture, when you open your email, when you check your phone, if someone cuts you off, like it's beyond all of that. But there is a power and there is a force inside of you where you can come from your most creative place. And there's an inner intelligence that speaks to you in that place. It's called Vipassana in Zen. It's an insight practice. This is also called. But you can't hear your inner voice. You can't come from your creative place without a practice to get in. Pete You know, I just took a breath when you said it and I think I heard you breathe. And so, I mirrored it. And yeah, I just, like right away, I just feel a little calmer, a little bit more relaxed, a little bit more in focus presence. Christoph, nice yoga.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Nice yoga. And I didn't even do the downward dog either. So that's the only position I know about to make jokes on. I suppose I should have brought a whole mess of yoga terms for driving jokes today. You know, you, you bring up a good point. You know, we were so relentlessly driven by the headlines, by news, you know, uh, news always, if it leads, if it bleeds, it leads, you know, the every news station is we, we found out how candy sugar and breathing can kill you news at 11. You're like, what the hell? And then I got to wait for 11 to find out what the hell's going on. I don't want to die. I don't breathe. So, you know, we really do need
Starting point is 00:11:31 this in a world where, you know, the world's kind of kicking our ass news ways. Here's the thing. You're moving through life anyway. So who's adding, who's adding the meaning to your day? Who's adding the meaning to your day? My dog. So imagine, so just imagine that we were each adding our own meaning to our day and like getting where we want to be going. Then what books are being written, what songs are being sung, right? When we're functioning from our creative place, which is our nature, instead of just from this old cultural reactivity that's all around Facebook, Instagram, in the stores, buy this, get that. There's nothing on the outside. Everything that happens happens within you. But the thing is just like when you
Starting point is 00:12:17 bring a puppy home and you have to train the puppy. And so with deeper days, when you're bringing your attention back to that mantra during the day or reading that every morning, the little self inquiry with your coffee, that's what you're doing. You're doing a bicep curl. If you were at the gym, you're strengthening your mental muscles. When you can do that, you control the patterns of your mind, you can set the sale of your life in the direction that you want to go. Because you're moving anyway, we're all moving anyway. So you might as well set your sale because you're paying a price regardless. Pete Slauson Yeah. I like that. That's a great point. You know, I was, I was feeling for a long time, just relentlessly, you know, I wake up in
Starting point is 00:12:56 the morning, first thing I got to do is check emails to see if anything's on fire, you know, text messages, and usually something's on fire from somebody that I didn't get this or I want that. And so you're like, Oh, get this over to him. Hurry. It's been sitting around for a couple hours because you know, you when you're international, people mail you, you know, in the middle of the night, they're like, why aren't you answering? You're like, I could be sleeping.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I have to sleep sometimes, folks. But so I started doing this thing a couple of years ago, I think it was, or maybe it was last year, where in the summer, because there's snow on the ground the rest of the year, in the summer, I would wake up in the morning, I'll kind of check for the fires and I'll just give them a quick glance. But then I'll go make my coffee and I'll spend time with my puppies, my dogs, and then I'll go out and sit in the sun with my shirt off and restart my circadian rhythm process. And we've had a lot of people in the show that taught me about circadian rhythms.
Starting point is 00:13:56 And then of course, the vitamin D absorption, and I'll read like just random stuff set of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius that's right here or other stovags. And I just kind of randomly picked something. I just opened the book and read what's there and I maybe do some highlighting with the yellow marker. And I found that that really, and then by the time I'm do all that for about 15, 20 minutes, I'm pretty calm, relaxed. I'm connected with my family, my dogs. I'm connected calm, relaxed. I'm connected with my family, my dogs. I'm connected with my environment. I've been out there in the world and maybe take some pictures of me and the dogs and the marking time. And then when I come in and sit down on my computer,
Starting point is 00:14:36 I just feel so much more present. I feel emboldened. I feel like I'm kind of in the power chair of my life. I feel like Captain Kirk on the, you know, on the starship, power ahead or whatever. But it really changed my perspective and my approach to my day. Kirsten Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful. And it changes your life, essentially. It's not time that's passing, it's your life. And so the only difference from what you're doing, because that's what I love to do too. I love Marcus Aurelius, I love everything stoic. So the only difference here between this and deeper days is you're getting that self-inquiry, so you have that different thinking patterns, right? So then it's more of you, so you can feel yourself. So what we're doing here when we remember the mantra during the day is just watering the seeds every time you can bring it back. So if you're in traffic and you can remember that mantra,
Starting point is 00:15:30 like love is honesty. If you can keep remembering that you're stacking moments on top of each other. So you have like one moment you remembered, then another moment, then another moment, but that's peace. It's longer spaces of that peace that you have. And that's where you can build a meditation practice, a yoga practice, things like that. Every time you bring attention back, you're strengthening, you're watering the seeds that are already within you, a focus, awareness and concentration. Without concentration, you really can't hold anything. It's like a container. What can you put in your container if you're not concentrating, not focused? It just kind of goes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Very cool. And so, you talk about in the book, it's not really about the positions. We've been doing some jokes on downward facing dogs and pigeon poses here. Oh, that's where the, is that where they hold their leg up and they go like this or am I thinking of the karate movie? Oh, yeah. So you're thinking of the karate movie, but you do hold, you bring your knee up towards your wrist and lower down the pigeon and it's a deep hip stretch. It's really good. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But you get into the mental and the spiritual practices of it, including meditation. And that's kind of always what I've assumed yoga is, is kind of sort of a meditative process, but you're also stretching your body, maybe releasing traumas or, you know, things that maybe you have connected to your system. Kirsten Mm-hmm. So, let me tell you what I learned about that. Yeah, I thought it was just the poses. So the yoga comes from the, you know, half the world is monks and monasteries right now sitting quietly. And what happened, they would sit because I'm, I did meditation five years first, meditation training first, then
Starting point is 00:17:16 Brazilian jiu jitsu. So when I went, I did those two, I went to New York City to my first yoga class. That's when I fell in love with it in 1999. What I learned was that the monks would sit and they wanted to sit longer. They wanted to sit quiet and longer, but their hips would be sore. This is why the stretches started to happen. They would stretch out. And then what would happen? They stretched so they could sit longer and quiet their mind.
Starting point is 00:17:42 There are 293 yoga sutras. It's like the whole crux of yoga is based on these sutras from Patanjali from India. He's an old sage. And two of them are about the postures, only two. Yoga is not the postures. Yeah, when it came to the, when it came over here to our side of the world, that's what it started to become and the yoga pants and all that, but it is really a mental game. Yeah. I'm wearing yoga pants now. The mental game, I'm going to the gym later.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You can't just drop that and then not show us. I'm not sure I'm legally allowed to wear yoga pants. The gym was put that way or anywhere else or those biking shorts like Armstrong were. Anyway, that's just what the judge tells me. What else have we talked about this in the book that you talk about that you talk about the eight limbs of yoga and a few different things? Give us more stuff on that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So the whole crux of the yogic path is there's eight limbs. Some people are like, oh, I can't do yoga, but it's a whole practice and this really changed my life and that's what I follow. It gave me ethics. There's no yoga without ethics. There are the yamas. It's the first thing and it's five observances of, you know, just how to live. Like some people don't even know how to have ethics and values, but the yogic path gives you five and it's really the crux. And they changed my life and they gave me something and I really did transform my life with this path. So it's ahimsa, satya, asteya, brahmacharya and apari graha. Excuse me. And non-harming, honesty, not stealing, wise use of sexual energy and being generous.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh, okay. That's the base. Then there's niyamas. That's a second. And it's like the outside observances. Okay. Different kinds of things like what's our positive duties? What do we notice about ourselves?
Starting point is 00:19:43 We have that. The asana is the yoga poses. different kinds of things, like what's our positive duties? What do we notice about ourselves? We have that. The asana is the yoga poses. Kranayama is the breathing. And you've heard of yoga and how you breathe and all the nostril breathing. Yeah. If you stop breathing, you will die.
Starting point is 00:19:58 That's not good. Let's let me check. So then the next part of the eight limbs is pratyahara. It goes inside the body now. So we use like the ethics and the yoga, but then we go inside. So there's pratyahara, meditation, this art of concentration that Deeper Days book is based on is there, dhyana and samadhi, which is the state of bliss, like state of enlightenment. And so, it's not like a line, but sometimes they happen in different order and they flux
Starting point is 00:20:29 and they grow. It's like music. Yoga's like music. It never really ends. It always keeps going. It's like what? Pete Slauson It's music that keeps going. Kirsten It's the path of the heart, really.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Pete Slauson The path of the heart. Kirsten It is. It is. Pete Slauson Yeah. So, you know, people need this in their lives. How hard is it to take up yoga? Is there like a learning curve for people of us who have no idea and never done it before? Do you need to, how hard is it to learn this thing? Kirsten I've had one, it's like anything. It can be annoying, it can be, you know, it can be discouraging,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and then you can get the wrong teacher. So just like picking up a bad book, right? The whole thing is to keep going and to find a teacher that you resonate with. I find that most people would be like, I went to yoga once, I was sore, I pulled something, never going back. No, no, go back, keep going, find the right teacher. Yeah, yeah. It's so helpful, so beneficial.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I help people all the time. It's so amazing. Pete And plus, they can buy your book. Now you have several books, I believe. You want to get a plug out for those other books too as well? Kirsten Sure. Sure. My first book I put out in 2021 was, no matter how dark the stain, it is Poems and Inspiration for the Woman in Pain. It's basically all of the dark things that happen in our life, it's given words. We are not what happened to us, we're what we do with it. And that's a really important concept because then when you're trying to do yoga practice and be quiet, if you haven't dealt with the negative things and the darknesses of your
Starting point is 00:22:02 life, they will creep up on you. But it's a psychology, they have to have a spot to go into or they're going to keep bugging you. And so, it's really important to do that work. So, where there's light, there can be no darkness. So, reading the poems from the book can really shed light and give words to some of the things that have happened to people, because I've been through everything, so I know. You've been through everything! That's a lot to go through, kid. I need to be your therapist. Of course, he's probably buying a yacht somewhere, so.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Okay, so, then, so, deeper days came out, and this is what I'm saying. Once you clean up the darkness in your life and you want to start to become somebody, you need a practice. You need to get through the cages of the mind and have a way in to your soul, into your heart. And deeper days we talked about, you can cultivate some peace and experience that and become a better version of yourself, a more creative version. And then what happened, what I found was there's a deep sense of stillness. And this book is Stillness in the Storm, conscious daily journal of yoga and spiritual healing. And so there's some pages where you can write because writing things out on paper,
Starting point is 00:23:11 there's an actual force and that could be a whole other show about journaling and getting things out. But if the world shuts down again, it's also eight yoga classes. Again, the eight limbs comes up as a theme. And you could just read it to a friend and it would be like me teaching my classes. So, I love that book. It became number one, like Deeper Days, in the category of yoga. They both became bestsellers in yoga, so I'm truly grateful. Pete Slauson That's awesome. That's awesome, so you're striking a nerve with the old people that read your books and join your books and all that good stuff. Tell us about
Starting point is 00:23:45 some of the services you offer now. I think you do some tele consulting coaching. Maybe people can see if they resonate with you as a yoga teacher. Yeah. No, that would be so amazing. So I really do sessions where you raise your vibration. We kind of do a release, let some garbage out and replace it with new things and lift your vibration so you can function at your higher self, experience some inner peace that maybe you haven't felt for a long time. People can find me just at my email, gangamonyoga.gmail.com. I do have one-on-one transformation session. It's an hour long and you kind of leave with an action plan. Some things you can do, just simple, easy.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I like to break things down. I like to talk to the toddler, but what I found out… What does that mean, talk to the toddler? You know, like when I'm teaching yoga, I'm not saying virabhadasana, one, two, three. People aren't going to understand that. So you have to use a language that's really simple because we make our lives complicated enough. So what is like, ooh, gaga or what's going on there? Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Not like, that's baby, that's baby. Well, you said you wanna talk to the children or whatever. I'd like to talk to the children. You always talk to the toddler. Yeah, you always talk to the toddler. Yeah, you keep things simple. You things basically so everyone can can catch on oh, well, that's too bad We do that. I teach weekly classes. I teach workshops I do speaking anywhere and you know what I love is going into workplaces and sitting at the head of the table when it's all
Starting point is 00:25:22 Like executives in suits and they're on lunch or something. And I do a little yoga and watch them just calm down in their chair, their whole body goes at ease. It's really beautiful. It's so funny how we forget to breathe. Like, I mean, take a real breath. Totally. Like we're taking a short breath.
Starting point is 00:25:38 But we've never been taught. Yeah, we've never been taught. Like we should know these things in grade four, that there's destiny inside of us, that we can control our mind, that our mind is a liar. We need to know these things, right? Pete My mind lies to me? No way.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Are you sure? Kirsten Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, positive. I have a t-shirt. I should send you one. Pete What does the t-shirt say? Kirsten My mind is a liar.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Pete Oh, wow. That's quite an accusation you're firing off there. It's true. Well, why does our mind lie to us? Maybe we should flush that out. It's a trickster. It's a tricky little, it's a little, I'm watching my language. It's the tricky little trickster.
Starting point is 00:26:16 It is always trying to steal your peace, always. So if you're laying down in a yoga pose like Shavasana and you're like one arm is touching the floor and the floor is cold, the whole time you're laying there, it'll be like, well, the floor is cold. This is cold like back in grade five, when we had to walk to school and like blah, blah, blah. It's just a little piece hijacker. This is why I got a little,
Starting point is 00:26:39 this is why I'm getting a frontal lobotomy so I don't have to deal with that anymore. No, just get deeper days so you can control it. Yeah, I'll read your book. That's cheaper than frontal lobotomy, so I don't have to deal with that anymore. No, just get deeper days so you can control it. Yeah. I'll read your book. That's cheaper than a lobotomy. Yeah. And it's not, you don't have to read it every day.
Starting point is 00:26:52 You just set it up where your coffee is. And then the self inquiry, just like what you're doing with Marcus, it really is like, you'll see some of his stuff in the book too. So you'll just read the self inquiry and then try that practice. Just do the practice, not try, but do that practice of connecting, bringing your attention back onto the mantra throughout the day. That's what keeps you connected from your head to your heart all day long. That's what builds those moments of concentration, increases focus and awareness.
Starting point is 00:27:20 But then who would you be if that space in you was bigger? What would you do with that new space in your body? No, like sure. We know these things we should know I just need another Big Mac or something Good idea. Yeah, or you'd like the world a little bit more Yeah, I mean I I've seen people and the more the more I see people the more I like dogs So I got that going for me The more I see people, the more I like dogs. So I got that going for me. So how can people on board with you reach out?
Starting point is 00:27:51 How do they find out if they're fit with you? You want to work with them, they want to work with you? All that good stuff. Yeah, just call me. I teach Reiki trainings. I certify people to be a Usui Reiki master or just level one or two. I teach private yoga teacher training where I'll just teach you everything that I ever learned. There's just a little form that you fill out for that. Just email me gangamonyoga at gmail.com.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Ganga, not ganja, but gangamonyoga at gmail.com or find me on social media and send me a message. I mean it's 2025 We're all connected. But Yeah, we're not separate So will yoga help me with Canadian issues that Canadian keeps bringing to America? Can it help resolve my the chaos that you know trying to listen to Nickelback Drake Justin Bieber Celine Dion bring? Should I answer that no, I'm just having fun with it. Oh, okay. Because I had something funny to say too.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Go ahead. If you have something funny, hit it. Go for it. I just didn't want to get you in trouble with the Canadian government. Well, I think I already am because I speak about peace and love and trying to have my yoga studio open for the shift joints. But that didn't happen. But anyway, if we could have your American chocolate bars here, yeah, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Do we not import our American chocolate bars over there? No, there is no Heath bar here. Really? No. The Heath bar is really good. That's one of my favorites, actually. And the almond joy? Is it because we have that high fructose corn syrup and sucralose and just about any goddamn
Starting point is 00:29:25 thing we can put in to make it sweeter? Is that why? I mean, you don't want to end up looking like us. I mean, have you seen us lately? We're all like 400 fucking pounds from those chocolate things. Yeah. I think our diets kind of meshed over the years. Oh, that's it?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah. We've exported diet to you guys. And we don't have, yeah, we don't have some of your healthy options here, like your pasta, veggies. You know what you should do though? If you want really good chocolate bars, at least, I'm no professional here, but get Tim Tams from Australia. Those little crispy things? Yeah, you ever had them?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Oh yeah, those are good. They're really good. I don't know what they put in a probably koala meat or something I don't but they're really good and I don't care if they do I'm not reading the ingredient list on that. Yeah, you never want it's Australia man. Everything there is designed to kill you Even those koalas have commit chlamydia like what the fuck? Yeah, they have like a huge problem. You can't even hold them anymore. Evidently. Can we put a photo up of the? Yeah, I don't think we want to.
Starting point is 00:30:27 I think YouTube will allow us to do that. No, man, if you guys could just get your nickel back problem under control and maybe take Justin Bieber back, I think we'll be fine. Justin Bieber back. He's taking back. I'm so tired of looking at that fucking kid. I don't even know what, I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. I don't even know what to do. so tired of looking at that fucking kid. I don't even know what, I don't even know what music is. You can take Drake back to, he seems annoying. I don't know why, but I just figured I'd pick on him. I'm sure he's a nice, wonderful man. If he goes back to Canada, I mean, how, how is anyone a rapper that has street cred that comes from Canada? You guys like white street central up there. Like there's no hood in Canada. Is there? I don't know. I think in every town there's a hood. Yeah. It's in the side west side, but there's no gangs and
Starting point is 00:31:18 stuff like that. The only gangs I think of are like Bob and Doug McKenzie type people running around. So what about Alanis Morissette and Sarah McLaughlin? Are you keeping them or? I try to avoid anything to do with listening to their music. If you, I don't, I'm going to lose all my Alanis Morris, all five of them listeners. You already have that one ethic down. We do like Brian Adams though. There we go. Yeah. Neil Young. We love Neil Young.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And then you can have Michael Buble back, but I'm sure the ladies Michael Buble. Yeah, you're just kidding. Shania Twain was used to be really hot. Johnny Mitchell. I didn't know. Yeah. Yeah. And the rhyme of the, what was the song about the, uh, it's a ship that sunk. Boy, once you hear it, you can't get it. We should probably should just not say it. Yeah. Gordon Lightfoot. He had this song about the wreck of the admin Fitzgerald. Was that his? And the wreck of the admin Fitzgerald. Yep. That was it. 1976.
Starting point is 00:32:28 I just dated myself. So, okay. You made me look younger. So thank you. Well, you do look younger. So good for you. But you know, I've been doing this podcast 16 years to put about 50 fucking, I look at one of those presidents and enters office and comes out the other side
Starting point is 00:32:42 looking like he got hit by a bus, but I was born that way according to my mom. So here's what I have to say to that. You know, here's what I say. I used to be eye candy and now I'm soul food. So maybe you can, I'm going to put that on my Tinder profile. Yeah. Yeah. I used to be eye candy and now I'm soul food. I think I think I like with you as well with what you're doing and all these spiritual concepts and things you're practicing, your insights and your thoughts are very pretty to be able to do the show and to have the humor that you have. And for me, I used to hate myself for a long time. And I love,
Starting point is 00:33:18 and I love that every thought I have now is peaceful or poetic. And yeah, my insights have never been prettier. The outside it's melted, but Hey, wait, didn't that happen to the witch? That sounds like a bad version to suggest you're melted. That happened to which was what it was. The great, you should probably just say like, uh, melts of midlife.
Starting point is 00:33:46 You don't get it, you have just testosterone. No, I had to get that shit refilled. I have to go every week to get that stuff refilled too. My... Like, is this an option? You know, it got low there in the tank a couple years ago. So now I have to go have it refilled every week. Although I give him shit whenever I walk into the testosterone
Starting point is 00:34:06 Clinic I walk in I go they go. Hey, what are you here for? I go I'm here to donate my testosterone for and then everyone in the room looks at me like what the fuck I'm like, yeah, I got someone just give it all and then and then when I leave they usually all say thank you It's so funny For a second, wait, you're putting this guy's shit in me. What the fuck? And yeah, we need, we need more books like this. We need more peace. We need more meditation.
Starting point is 00:34:37 We need more calmness. We all, we all get along. And so that would be really good, especially when we're trying to declare war. Yeah, we need to heal. Yeah. We need to stop being quiet about things that hurt us We need to find the words for them so we can move on and be who we're supposed to be We all have greatness inside of us. We all have destiny inside of us
Starting point is 00:34:53 There's a kingdom of peace love kindness and compassion and everybody so that's the world I want to live in the books. I want to read so why I I need yoga meditation because I keep coming across stupid people that have stupid people inside them. So that's my problem. Why I need help. Yeah, your practice is great. Like what you do already. Yeah, you could add the deeper days and just lengthen it throughout your day and see what happens. You know, it'd be funny. You should start a podcast about breathing and yoga, but then you don't really talk on it or anything,
Starting point is 00:35:27 you just do breathing. Wait, isn't that AMF so far or something like that? My nephew likes that crap, where they breathe in the mic and shit. It just makes me want to punch people in the face because- But yeah, would anyone come? I don't know. I think that's kind of the point of the MMR.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I'm not going to explain that joke. So it's a weird gen Z fetish, I guess. Anyway, anytime I see it, I just want to punch. I just want to, I just want to beat whoever is the death, but I have issues clearly. And then the voices in my head usually aren't about peace and meditation. They're more like kill, kill, kill. And so that's what the judge says. I have to wear the ankle bracelets. Anyway, there's more than one folks. That's the great joke about that one. I'm always proud of that
Starting point is 00:36:13 one. Anyway, guys, thank you very much, Andrea, for coming on the show all the way from Canada, from the great white north, as they like to call it, hockey central. Thanks for coming down from the old Canada there. Giveusher.com is where you'll find you on the interwebs. Yeah. I think you were working on the website, Ganga Moon Yoga. It's a square website.
Starting point is 00:36:35 So Ganga Moon Yoga is square site. Ganga Moon Yoga on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, Andrea L. Whalen, my author name, Andrea L. Whalen, my author name, my books are at Barnes and Noble across the states, Indigo across Canada, all things are on Amazon, I'm on Goodreads, my upcoming events and book signings are on Eventbrite. Yeah, just kind of anywhere,
Starting point is 00:36:59 even if you punch in Beamsville Yoga Teacher, you'll probably find me, but please find me because I want to hear from you. I have a lot to share and a lot of ways that you can show your greatness through any kind of shit. Pete Slauson Do you have anything that can unmelt me? Pete Slauson You're doing a good job. Pete Slauson Put me back in the freezer? Jodi You're doing a good job. You're doing a good
Starting point is 00:37:20 job. Pete Slauson I still need some unmelting though. I could use, I mean, maybe that's why I should, they should put you back in a freezer. I suppose they eventually will if life gets its way. But thank you very much Andrew for coming on the show. We really appreciate it. Oh, that's why we keep breathing. See, that's the key, that breathing part. You wake up and you're like, I'm still here. Damn it. And you're like, oh, I guess I'll make it work. Anyway guys, thanks for tuning in. Go to goodreads.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, linkedin.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, Chris Foss, one of the sick talkity and all those crazy places on the internet. Order up Andrea's book called deeper days, 365 yoga aspirations for
Starting point is 00:37:58 inner calm, amidst the chaos. Boy, do we need it 2025. Thanks for tuning in. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time. And that should have us out. Great.

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