The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Do the Hard Things First: How to Win Over Procrastination and Master the Habit of Doing Difficult Work (Do the Hard Things First Series) by Scott Allan

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Do the Hard Things First: How to Win Over Procrastination and Master the Habit of Doing Difficult Work (Do the Hard Things First Series) by Scott Allan https://amzn.to/443NTb3 Scottallanpublishing.com Break the Procrastination Habit, Accelerate Your Productivity, and Take Control of Your Life NOW. Are you living in chaos because you keep putting off important tasks until the last minute? Do you feel disorganized at home and work? Are you experiencing feelings of anxiety, frustration, and helplessness because of all your unfinished projects? If so, it's time to break the procrastination habit and rewire your difficult work habits. International bestselling author and personal development trainer, Scott Allan, wants you to defeat procrastination and eliminate negative self-talk so you can end the chaos of chronic task avoidance. In this practical guide, you'll learn Scott's step-by-step method for breaking the procrastination habit and ending self-sabotage. In Do the Hard Things First, Scott Allan teaches you how to: Control self-defeating distractions and shiny object syndrome. Identify the key constraints holding you back and take massive action for optimal results. Avoid doing random tasks and begin time-blocking your critical work. Identify negative coping mechanisms and develop a great work ethic. Implement daily exercises to make better choices and build greater confidence in decision-making. Structure your priorities by focusing on what matters most Train your brain to master attention by interrupting sudden impulses Construct a new environment to remove clutter and eliminate decision fatigue Do the Hard Things First is structured to save time, increase mental energy, and teach you to think from a place of confidence by removing the fear of doing what scares you. You'll learn how to focus on your #1 tasks for the day, eliminate overwhelm, and become the best version of yourself in both your work and life. "Today, not tomorrow. Do it now, not later.

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better things. She still DMs Brad, by the way. But make her happy. Send her and refer to the Chris Voss Show and I'll try and get her on your good side for you. Go to goodreads.com for just Chris Voss. LinkedIn.com for just Chris Voss. When did this become my job? And all those places on the internet. We have an amazing author, a multi-book author, I should say, on the show with us today. Scott Allen joins us on the show. He is the author of one of the books we'll be talking about today, Do the Hard Things First, How to Win Over Procrastination and Master the Habit of Doing Difficult Work. Part of his Do the Hard Things First series. This book came out in June 13th, 2021, and you can pick it up. It's got a humongous amount of ratings there on the Amazonian and the Goodreadian.

The Goodreadsian. I don't know. That doesn't work, does it? It doesn't work at all. Anyway, he is published in 16 different languages with 200,000 copies sold worldwide. He is on a mission to transform the human potential. And as a former corporate business trainer in Japan and transformational success strategist, he has invested over 10,000 hours of practice and research in the areas of confidence development and mindset mastery training. With

an unrelenting passion for teaching, building critical life skills, and inspiring people around the world to take charge of their lives. He is committed to a path of constant and never-ending self-improvement. Welcome to the show, Scott. How are you? I'm doing great, thanks. It's great to be here. There you go. Well, it's so wonderful to have you. Jeez, so many books. How many books total do you have there under your belt? Probably 35 to 40, I think.

Yeah, and as you mentioned, yeah, they're in a few languages. So I've been doing this for a little while over a decade or so and these are all like non-fiction these are all motivational books and health self-help books they are self-help motivational books yeah i mean i more or less teach people how to you know reinvent themselves relaunch their lives you know basically you know in a nutshell just do something freaking great with their lives you know i mean that's what we're here for, so. There you go. That's awesome. Usually when you see that number of books, it's one of our novels that we have on.

It's good for you, man, writing all that nonfiction. Give us your dot coms. Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs? Sure. They can go to scottallenpublishing.com, and they can also go to scottallenbooks.com. We have a Shopify store on there. It's still kind of in the works, but they can find me on there. And, of course, there's always Amazon. You can go there and just plug, you know, Scott Allen author into there, and you can find the books all on there. It's still kind of in the works, but they can find me on there. And of course, there's always Amazon.

You can go there and just plug Scott Allen author into there and you can find the books all in there. There you go. All in various formats. People can subscribe to your newsletter too off your website as well. So give us a 30,000 overview of the Do the Hard Things First in the series, I guess, that this is in. Sure thing.

Yeah, this book came about because my own battle with chronic procrastination like it was one of those things where i wanted to get to a level that was just you know a big level basically and i just wanted to be you know top performer i wanted to get to a place in my life where i just you know could become unbeatable unstoppable but i was being held back by procrastination and i would procrastinate on anything that was difficult because I didn't know how to handle these. I didn't have a solution to that problem, right? So in order to combat that, I thought, I'm going to sit down and draft out a solution to that problem. And it turned into a book. And a friend of mine suggested that, why don't you just start doing whatever that hard thing is, start doing that first thing in the

morning. And this has been talked about before in the past, probably by, you know, Zig Ziglar and Jim Rohn. And, you know, they've said to, you know, should do the hard things first. I don't think they said it like that, but, you know, I took that message to heart and I started doing that. And what I found is that by doing one hard thing every morning, it set the rest of the day up for success. Right. So I thought, OK, if this is the formula, I'm just going to keep pushing forward with this. Yeah, so before I know it, I had a book. I can put a book together pretty quickly, and especially if it's a title that's really driving me hard to get it done,

you know? And then as I was talking about it to other people, they're like, wow, I could really use that book, because as it turns out, most people struggle with procrastination, you know? There's various levels of that, but I was, I mean, for me, if I had to fill out a form to save my life, I wouldn't do it. I'd just shuffle it away somewhere. But yeah, that's really where the book came about. There's a formula in the book. I think people can get it. They can go through the steps,

but I mean, it's not particularly, it's it's not complicated it's really just i can break it down to you know the book probably could have been a little bit shorter but i went a little bit in depth with it and there was a new version of that coming out in a couple of months right a new edited version of that and it'll be a second version that's going to be more condensed i think and basically you know you want to do the hard things first just pick one thing that you've been putting off make sure it's something that is moving you towards a goal that you really want. And then just get to, you know, whether it's 15 minutes or 30 minutes a day and just get serious about it. You know, and that's what I had to do. I still have to do it because I still procrastinate. I still push things off.

But, you know, if you do this enough, you know, you're going to build that muscle. You're going to be able to catch yourself pushing things off and you're going to, you're going to feel it too, because you're going to feel the progress that you're making. But if you don't do it, you're going to feel the pain of that as well. And that was really what it came down to is I just had a lot of pain from pushing things off again and again and again. And these are things that had to be done and only they had to be done by me. Now, I always do the hard thing first when I wake up every morning is the waking up part and getting out of bed. Does that count?

Oh, it certainly does. Yeah, yeah. So Tom Bilyeu, one of my mentors, he always says he's out of bed within 10 minutes. You know, I would, sure, you know, I have multiple alarms that go off, but, you know, I'd roll around a little bit and stay in bed. The longer you stay in bed, you know, just you stay in bed, you actually start to build that habit of laziness. You actually feel lazy and then everything else you do is related to that one habit, right? Honestly, I'm out of bed within five minutes now, if not sooner. I'm up, I'm doing exercise and then I'm doing meditation, I'm doing journaling. And these are not things that I would

say come naturally to me. I mean, nobody wants out of bed and you know put a set of weights in their hands and start working out but i do that just to get the blood moving you know because it really does yeah yeah it's hard to do in the beginning but i mean you start to do this you start to change your physiology and i start to you know it does it really does start to change you internally i wonder if i started working out in the morning if that at least getting on the treadmill, not lifting weights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a matter of just moving. Yeah, for sure. 56, we're still trying to, you know, we have to lube up all the, we have to get the oil in the system, the coffee, and lube up all the moving parts before we do that. But I'm not the most pleasant person in the morning. I'm usually, I'm nice to my dogs, but that's about all that can put up with me.

Yeah, sure. But you got to have that coffee and then you, and then about after about six or seven hours, I'm can be nice to people and start interacting with people. Yeah. Yeah. Usually comes after that two coffees basically,

but doing the hard things first. I like this because, you know, we always put off the hard thing, right? Where I was like, okay, I'll do the easy things first to get them out of the way. I think there's some people that subscribe to that. And you're like, oh, I'll do that one thing.

I'll do that one thing. Oh, yeah. Oh, how convenient. Didn't get done today. Oh, I'll just put off to tomorrow. And, you know, 500 days later, five years later. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Putting off. Yeah. I mean, I have the way I look at it is like you can either suffer now or suffer later maybe suffering is not the word that people want to hear but it really is does really come down to that you know it's like i don't do this now i'm going to pay for it later and there are things that i paid for later you know i i lost my entire line of credit once because i put off a credit card bill i pay my bills and everything like you know most people but i mean this one bill in particular wasn't linked to my bank account. And I would have had to drive across town and talk to the bank and pay this bill for 300 bucks. And I put this off for months

and they sent me a whole bunch of reminders. And every time I got the reminders, there's another one. I just feed it to the dog or put it in the corner or whatever it is. And sure enough, three months later, I get this final notice stating that not only were they canceling that card they were canceling them all you know and so because my business is all online if i can't buy anything online i'm more or less screwed right so i suddenly found myself without any way to you know hire people online or do anything that was related to buying anything for my business but that was just because i was just putting off that one thing like whenever i got a reminder it just triggered this oh there was trauma but it just triggered something in me it's like i'm a procrastinator and this is what we do so i'm just gonna leave this bill for later

but i did pay for it later on and eventually got my line of credit back but it wasn't easy so is that is that one of the problems we start to identify ourselves as a procrastinator um love that question we we fulfill that image in our mind absolutely yeah that's great identity is everything yeah so here's the thing is one of the things i had to stop doing is calling myself a procrastinator and that's the thing and you can take that you can you know take procrastination and call yourself basically anything but the labeling of that one thing that defines you and you start acting that way, like your behavior starts to, you know, you basically create your identity around that one thing. I'm a procrastinator. That's why I do it.

Right. But you're not a procrastinator. You just have a behavior that is linked to this habit of, you know, putting things off. Right. And that's really, you can cut the cord on that, but I'd recommend anybody just to, you know, stop labeling yourself as that thing and start labeling yourself as something else. So I labeled myself as an action taker. And that was hard to do because I was still procrastinating on things, but that's not who I want to be. I want to be the action taker. So I would sit down and I would actually just brainstorm a bunch of words on paper.

I did a vision map of what an action taker looks like. And I had to recreate and create a new identity basically right do the hard things first the great thing about doing them first in the morning when you get up and you know you have some coffee of course is is and by by doing that hard thing first you become the action taker right so you start rewriting your identity and remapping that whole thing because i know people you know i i don't know if i've ever i think i probably i never admitted to being a procrastinator let's put it that way so if you don't admit to it you don't have a problem it's like a but if you don't go to rehab

you don't have a problem um but you know when you when you you you procrastinate enough your mind knows your brain goes yeah you're procrastinating you're just like whatever and you just go okay fine whatever label me whatever you want but by doing the hard things first you become an action taker so it's really easier to get out of that identity I know some people wear procrastination like a brat badge and brag about on Facebook and everything else and that's that's probably even worse I suppose when you're you know you got a coffee mug this is let's procrastinate shit today. Yeah, no, for sure.

And then other people identify you as that as well. So then it becomes harder to get jobs, you know, and they put you in a certain corner of the room. This don't give that job to him because he's not going to do it. And, you know, so that just reinforces the fact that, you know, you're procrastinating and you are a procrastinator you know but i think i think i think some of my people i date think i'm a procrastinator because i'm 56 and never married but i just tell them i never got tired of being happy for sure so i'm just i'm just procrastinating my misery yeah single guy jokes yeah there may be good things that come out of that you know i'm not saying procrastination is totally bad you know there's some things that maybe people should be putting off i still own 100 of my shit so that's kind of nice too

yeah compared to most of my friends where i'm just like what's that paying child support till you're 70 anyway single guy jokes right now all the married guys like fuck you chris now you built this into a series i think there's two other books in the series is that right there's three and we have a fourth one coming out in june and i planned for two more after that probably within the next year and a half yeah so it started as one book i wasn't you know i don't know if you can plan success but i wasn't planning it for it to take off and then i started getting like within a year that i think i didn't really do a great job of marketing it because i had a lot of other stuff that i'm doing and i you know i like chasing shiny objects especially if you can catch it so great isn't it yeah yeah but yeah i started getting offers from international publishers

from like india korea like all kinds of other places they wanted to take the book and translate it and basically just buy the rights to it for those countries i thought wow great why not so it started taking off and then you know like one of my mentors slash coaches said why don't you turn this into a series and see what happens so that's what we're doing you know and basically each of those books is focusing on a specific pain point so i think the second one's on how to master your like self-control third one is on breaking bad habits. The fourth one is going to be coming up, it's going to be on overcoming shiny object syndrome,

which is a big one for a lot of people. I need that. Squirrel. You know, I had my ADHD pretty much beat. I was also suffering from low testosterone. And so I was very low energy. And it turns out I was losing some brain fog. It was really bad.

I didn't realize how, how bad it was, but I would literally wake up every morning and I do a lot of stuff, you know, three or four podcasts a day and all the other stuff I did, but I would literally be waking up in the morning and I'd feel like 10 minutes later I was crawling into bed and like about the podcast and I don't know, you could check my emails and you and maybe some posts on social media and you that was the measurement i was doing but there was like a bunch of stuff that i was like how come i didn't get time to do that today and i wanted to do that where did all the time go and i mean it was really bad it was to the point that i was about

a week off of when like i would then i was living in a in a in a world but so I had bad ADHD when I was a kid and probably all through my CEO owning company's life which is the CEO disease and so the one great thing was about the testosterone was the brain fog went away and I woke up and now two minutes is two minutes and used to be two minutes was two days and the only problem is my adhd has come back like a motherfucker yeah and so i've been like i really noticed it it's like i really got to pay attention wait what am i doing right now oh podcast anyway yeah the two it's a real thing yeah it's yeah i need that scroll book when you get that thing done in the can.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, I'll be sure to send you over a copy. Yeah, unless we both find squirrels first, then chasing them in the park. Sure. But, yeah, that's something I think nowadays it's even harder for people to deal with that because there's so much media, so many websites, so much data, so many newsletters, so many emails, you know, just everything's coming at you 500 miles an hour. Um, and so people need to tune, people need to figure out what to focus on. And my big thing years ago was trying to become present.

And so now I'm kind of fighting for that presence again to be present. Where am I? What am I doing? But the brain fog has actually really helped by being on testosterone because now two minutes is two minutes. I mean, it was really kind of thing. So in the second book,

you talk about mastering self-control over doing the hard things first and you kind of drill down some more. Do you want to touch on anything that was in that book? Yeah, just with the self-control, I guess. And again, these books were written from my perspective of things that I've always struggled with. And of course, I interviewed a lot of people and talked to a lot of people about this. And I probably mentioned it in some other books in the past, but this was the first book

where I just dove into it more in detail because the self-control, if you can master your emotions, master your mindset, master these things that are basically out of control. And as to the ADHD, same with me. I'm just, I'm all over the place. You've written a lot of books. You have to be all over the place. Yeah, yeah. And I, you know, not so much now, but back in the day, you know, I had a long battle with like addiction and I was always just like getting into things like that.

So like my self-control, if you put a, and I still lose it some days, you know, you put a big chocolate bar in front of me and leave me alone for five minutes and it'll be gone. And I don't know if that's something that I'll ever change, but I've realized like, you know, if you can master your self-control and stop doing the things that are harming you or moving you away from your goals, you know, like having a detrimental impact on the life that you really want to live, then you can live the life that you've always dreamed of. And not everybody knows what that is, but you have to, and you don't have to master, I think there's six levels of self-control. And I can't remember what

they all were in the book, but one of them is mastering your emotions. And that's a hard one. I mean, that's a book in and of itself, right? But I wanted to write a book on that topic just because it is a big pain point for a lot of people because a lot of people feel like they, to your point, it's really hard to control ourselves when we've got like a TikTok feed with a bunch of TikTok and social media and we have all these shiny objects that are just everywhere. And honestly, like a lot of people, I think we feel like we're out of control most days, right? And I certainly do. And I try to put my goals up on my wall and remember, yeah, that's what my goal is.

That's my goal is. And then an hour later, I'm, you know, like chasing rabbits through the forest. I mean, it's just like, you know, so you really have to keep bringing yourself back and bringing yourself back. And you made a good point about trying to stay present in the moment, you know, and I was always like, yeah, time will just slip by. Like days, weeks, months, years. moment you know and i was always like yeah time will just slip by like days weeks months years and before you know it you know you're you're a lot older and you're nowhere's like near your you know where you wanted to be and again a lot of people not even sure where they wanted to go in the first place but that's one of the things that i just got really super that's how i ended up in

japan eventually you know just getting super clear what i wanted and what are the steps i need to get there and i just kept moving forward with these steps. And sure, I didn't do everything perfectly. Nobody does, but yeah. Yeah. It sounds like establishing what those goals are the first step, right? Yeah, it is. Yeah. And your goals will change over time, which is fine, but you don't need a whole bunch of them. You just need one thing that you really want. And you may not even be sure why you want it. It's just like, it could be something that came into you out of a dream who knows you know but just quick story though years ago when i was living back in canada before i came here i was going through this transitional period where i was trying to like

you know i was in recovery and i was trying to get myself together and it was working and i was doing really well and i got into this self-help thing and going through the bookstore one day and picked up tony robbins book waking the Giant Within, took it home, went through a great book and he's got, you got to do your goals and have a vision for your life. And I was like, yeah, that's a great idea. And I just started mapping out this plan and I had this vision board on my wall. And within a year I was like, and one of the things on my vision board was to go traveling around the world and write books and stuff like that. And, you know, I was living in a small town at the time, never really been out of the country, never traveled anywhere, didn't plan on traveling

anywhere. But suddenly I had this vision to just travel the world and it lit me up. It excited me. So, you know, a lot of people, they try to stuff that out thinking, you know, that's really a scary thing to do. I'm not saying you have to go travel the world. It could be anything. Maybe you want to build a corporation. But, you know, just writing these things down and then I put up my wall and every day that became my new identity. You know, so again, back to the identity thing. Like if you can work on your identity and make shifts around that, you become unstoppable, you know. There you go.

Setting up the identity sounds like a real important thing. Setting up the goals, what your purpose is in life, I think. A lot of people don't establish that. Like I talked to one of them, what is your purpose? I don't know, watching TV and making sure the wife doesn't hit me. And you're like, no, you need to have something bigger than yourself. You need to have something that's yours, especially as a man. Because we're expected to serve in this world, whether it's our family, we're expected to contribute to this world.

And that's our value. And so having that purpose, you know, I'll meet guys that, you know, they're suicidal because they got divorced. And their whole purpose was their marriage or their wife. And it's like, dude, you need to have a bigger goal that was bigger than that. Because that shouldn't be the thing that destroys you because you had such a small paradigm or goal or something that was so easy to be taken away from you. I've made the same mistakes sometimes with partners that, you know, I thought that they were part of my life's purpose. And, and when they wanted to move on to other things and break up our business partnership, then that, that was going to happen. But you need things that you can kind of control, I think in your, in your realm of things, like no one can really take away your ability to write

books, you know, and, and no one can say, you you know if you want to travel the world about the only person stopping is tsa so you know and for sure whatever it costs to do but you you have that within your control and so living your purpose and the things that fulfill you are just so important and i think a lot of people they just you know i remember growing up when i was young i would i was listening to a lot of Billy Joel and song my life and there was another song that was really popular but it talked about guys going through middle-aged midlife crises like what is it how come all these people are divorced in middle life and how come they're all unhappy and they're

going through midlife crises and so I was studying like how do I avoid that how do I live my life you know I was I was like in my teens, how do I live my life where I don't go through a midlife crisis? And it seemed like a lot of people were just sleepwalking through life by what society told them to do. You know, there's that famous scene in Fight Club where they're sitting in the bathroom. And, you know, Brad Pitt's, Tyler Durden's, you know, my, my father told me, I said, what do you, what do I do? He's go to school. And then I graduated. What do I do now, dad? Go to college. Okay. So I went to college. What do I do now, dad? Go get a job. What do you do now, dad? Go get a wife. And, you know, just following the social patterns of, okay, you're supposed to do this. And then, and then

somehow it's assumed that you're going to be happy by following society's little blueprint and go have some kids and then you'll be happy. Everything will be fine. You know, I'll work out in the end. And then everybody is getting the 40 and 45 and they're miserable. And, you know, then they start waking up and realizing that they didn't choose the life they really wanted. They didn't choose.

And a lot of people are doing that today, especially in America. And so I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm doing things my way. I'm going to do things my way the whole time. I'm going to do my adventures because I'm not having a midlife crisis. So I never had one. I drove horses and chased hot women around the whole time. I used to own a modeling agency.

You know, I think what you say, the identity, finding your purpose is so important, and everything else. Do you want to feature some of your other books? Because you have so many. Are there some other ones you want to plug away at? Sure, yeah. So I have another one called Relaunch Your Life, and that's basically just how to, you know, reinvent your life from the ground up.

When you have the whole life crisis? Yeah, it could be. Yeah, yeah. For sure, yeah. There you go yeah um yeah there's that one and then there's the power of your gratitude which hey you know if you're into gratitude like that is one of the keys i think that's like medicines i was picked up by a japanese publisher actually a couple years ago so they it's in all the bookstores here it's happy to say that's in i think recently we sold it to a chinese publisher we'll see how that works out but you know but anyway yeah, there's a lot of books.

Hey, if rejection is your thing and you're feeling, again, I have a few books on how to recover from the fear of rejection. Whether that's rejection in a relationship, rejection with yourself, because probably self-rejection is a real thing. Then you can check those books out as well. You know, you should do a book because I noticed you have this empower your quote-unquote something theme. So you have empower your success, empower your self-esteem, empower your thoughts, empower your wealth, empower your – let's see, that's the one I saw earlier. And I love some of these things that you have in the empowerment mode. You should do a book called Empower Yourself to Not Proc procrastinate and buy this book now. I love that. Yeah, that's great. Empower yourself to buy this book now. Yeah, for sure. Hit the buy button on that cart. So there you go. Is there,

do you do any sort of coaching or any sort of counseling advice to people or do you mostly stick to just writing books? I do. Yeah. I do a lot of coaching for any sort of counseling advice to people or do you mostly stick to just writing books i do yeah i do a lot of coaching for people who specifically around like writing books and yeah i i do a lot of that i in the past i did a lot of one-on-one coaching for we'll call it life coaching although i'm not a call myself a you know registered life coach but i did a lot of that and i got really busy with it right and that was probably the thing i got too busy with it and i wasn't creating as much material. And I think I wasn't ready for it either because honestly, you know, I'm not a trained psychologist per se, although a lot of the books that I write about are based on psychology

and human behavior. Most of it was just come from, you know, talking to a lot of people and doing a lot of reading, right? However, so when I was coaching people on this, a lot of people had some real problems that I don't think I was trained to deal with, you know? And so after going through that for a little while, I decided not to do that. So I do, you know, I occasionally like I will go into corporations and sometimes I'll get involved, you know, invited to do speaking engagements where I'm, you know, teaching people through like walking people through the frameworks for certain

books like on how to, you know, treat like if your sales staff is you know experiencing a lot of rejection here's what they can do so i'll do things like that that are more you know more i'm not going to get myself into trouble more or less right yeah but um yeah but yeah some people can tap you for yeah yeah for sure yeah yeah and one of my big goals for this year by the way so i'm kind of like i think up to you know i've done like a lot of interviews in the past but they were always like you know coming after me to the interviews would you mind doing an interview i'd be like oh okay sure you know but i never actively went out there and was really looking for it but big goal this year is to step out from behind the big curtain of just like writing books

and putting them out there and being you know like an invisible from behind the big curtain of just like writing books and putting them out there and being, you know, like an invisible force behind the keyboard and getting in front of people and just saying, this is what I'm doing and this is what I'm helping you with. And, you know, if you want more of it, you know, I can, I can deliver. Yeah. So I love, you know, I mean, I spent probably 20 years in Japan, just going to corporations and talking to a lot of their executives and training them for going overseas to deal with the culture shock and basically how to do business overseas. So I got to know a lot of people in the industry, but I was really always, yeah, I think one of my strengths that I had to build up over time was just going out onto a stage and talking to a lot of people and

getting over that fear of a stage fright. know so there's always that imposter syndrome you know that you have when you try something new imposter syndrome is yeah it's a real fear but it's actually a really good fear because it means that you're probably doing something that you feel really uncomfortable with but that's what's going to build your new identity so there you go yeah just practice makes perfect i just think i just look down on everybody and have a narcissistic problem. So it works for me in speaking. I just kind of look at everybody and be like, I'm here to espouse my knowledge upon you. Weaker peeing.

No, I don't. I'm just kidding, folks. Right on. Yeah. Right on. Or you think of peeing people naked. That helps sometimes. Unless they're really hot, then that's a problem.

Right, right. Then you can't keep your speech right so there you go i don't know what that means people i'm not getting invited to speak ever again clearly by hr departments so there you go so it's okay yeah you show up anytime we do the own show yeah actually allowed to speak according to the judge but i get one of my ankle bracelets off tomorrow there's four more to go so scott it's been wonderful to have you on. Give us any final plug outs you want, any dot coms, et cetera, et cetera. Sure. Yeah.

So you can check me out at scottallenpublishing.com, scottallenbooks.com. You can always go to Google and just plug in Scott Allen author. I'm sure you'll get a lot of hits on there. And yeah, I'll be doing a lot of interviews this year and I appreciate you and, you know, having me on this show. This has been a blast. That's what we do on the show. We do a blast.

We were going to call it the Blast Show, but I think there was an OnlyFans that took that name first. I don't know what that means. But thank you very much for coming on, Scott. We really appreciate it. Folks, order up the book wherever fine books are sold, and you can get them and all that good stuff. And I think I put away, give me the plug on the name there of that book.

Sure. Do the hard things first. Relaunch your life and one more i forgot to mention was fail big you have the fear of failure yeah that's that's a book that will be relaunching because it never really got a you know a good shot at the market when we put it out there like it's been out there for four or five years but it's one of the books that's helped a lot of people so you can check out fail big as well if you have the fear of failure and who doesn't have that fail big already damn it the yeah that's i've done that a lot i didn't even need a book for that yeah there you go so thanks scott for being on the show thanks for tuning in go to goodreads.com

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