The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Emotional Intelligence and Psycho Nutrition: Transforming Lives with Tricia Parido

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

Emotional Intelligence and Psycho Nutrition: Transforming Lives with Tricia Parido Triciaparido.com Turningleavesrecovery.com About the Guest(s): Tricia Parido is a prominent consultant in psycho nutrition and a master addiction specialist. She is the founder of Turning Leaves Recovery Life and Wellness Coaching and is widely recognized as a creator and speaker. Tricia's innovative "Total Emotional Performance App" is designed to help high-achieving professionals ditch emotional chaos, stop simply coping, and live with clarity, confidence, and emotional agility. She has over a decade of experience in helping individuals upgrade their mental game both personally and professionally through her "no fluff" methodology that emphasizes action over affirmations. Episode Summary: In this riveting episode of The Chris Voss Show, host Chris Voss dives deep into the complexities of emotional intelligence and psycho nutrition with expert guest Tricia Parido. Known for her trailblazing work in addiction recovery and emotional well-being, Tricia provides intricate insights into how emotional agility can shape personal and professional spheres. This episode promises to leave listeners not only enlightened but equipped with actionable strategies to enhance their emotional resilience. The intriguing conversation unravels the layers of human nature, emphasizing the importance of transitioning from emotional intelligence to emotional agility. This episode is a haven for those dealing with the emotional chaos of daily life and desiring a transformative journey. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional insights, Tricia delves into the physiological impacts of substance reliance and the critical need for internal validation over external social media affirmation. Listeners are invited to explore the concept of psycho nutrition and how aligning dietary intake can enhance mental clarity and emotional stability. Tune in to discover how to formulate responses to life's challenges that align with personal values and desired emotional states. Key Takeaways: Transition to Emotional Agility: Learn to move beyond emotional intelligence to cultivate a state of emotional agility, which involves proactive, strategic responses instead of impulsive reactions. The Impact of External Validation: Understand the pitfalls of relying on social media and other external sources for self-worth, especially prevalent among women. Psycho Nutrition Fundamentals: Explore how dietary habits profoundly affect mental health and emotional well-being, and the importance of personalizing nutrition to fit your physiological needs. Substance and Emotional Dependency: Discover insights into how dependency on alcohol or food as an emotional crutch ties into greater emotional chaos and how to transition away from such dependencies. Cultivation of Personal Strategy: Embrace individualized strategies and systems for emotional and mental health improvement, moving beyond generic self-help approaches. Notable Quotes: "The only true thing that changes life is action." "We need to be emotionally agile, to boogie board with those emotions and see them coming." "We're not designed to get over things; we're built to move through them with clarity and strategy." "Our learned behaviors around alcohol might start from what childhood showed us as normal." "Just because you're making healthy choices doesn't mean they're right for your engine."

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about her amazing insights. We're going to be talking about Psycho Nutrition. She's a consultant in Psycho Nutrition and master addiction specialist and founder of Turning Lee's Recovery Life and Wellness Coaching. We have Tricia Priddo on the show where she's a nationally recognized creator, speaker and all that sort of great stuff. She has a program, an app called the total emotional performance app. And I'm sorry, I got that wrong. Total emotional performance app. And with over a decade of experience coaching, high achieving professionals,

she helps people ditch the emotional chaos, stop just coping, finally live with clarity, confidence and emotional agility. So those of you who hate all that stuff and don't want to live that way, complete chaos and madness, you know, keep doing what you're doing, I guess. But otherwise listen to the show and check out her wares. Her real task style, powerful life story and no fluff methods have made her a go-to expert for anyone ready to upgrade their mental game personally and professionally. Welcome to the show, Trisha. How are you?

Oh my goodness. I'm just super excited to be here with you today. We're super excited to have you as well and all the great stuff you're going to deliver to us and change our lives by the end of the show. Like people are just going to walk out of the end of the show and be like, gosh, Dernan, I'm not going to take it anymore. I'm going to live a better life. So Trisha, I put a lot of pressure on you. I'm sorry about that. I kind of built that up a little.

I got a little ahead of myself there. I've slept over here a little. Yeah. You're like, Hey, I just came on a podcast. What the hell? Give me your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? You know, I have two sites, trishaperido.com and turningleavesrecovery.com. They're both connected to each other.

So if you land on one, you can find the other and, and back and forth. They're both, you know, getting a little facelift right now, but hey, don't mind the construction. Why? What are you doing for that facelift? I need one. So Tricia, give us a 30,000 overview of what you do there. You know, 30,000 overview. I don't know if I gave you like the super short version working with me is like

working with an emotional intelligence trainer, meeting your mental wellness strategist, I don't, you know, I don't pump people full of affirmations and and feel good stuff. I believe that the only true thing that changes life is action. So if if we're not problem aware solution seeking and moving into transformational focus, we were going to, you know, continue to do the same things over and over again and expect a different result. Wait, you don't get a different result if you do the same thing over and over again? What? No! Some people are trying really hard to prove that thing wrong. Evidently from what I've seen, some people, you're a hundred percent spot on.

They're like, damn it. I know it's a rule that doing the same thing over and over doesn't get the same result, but I'm going to try it and do it in infinity. Yeah. I noticed that in my dating groups, I just keep doing the same mistake over and over again. You're like, it could be a little bit of a mistake. get the same result, but I'm going to try it and do it in infinity. Yeah. I noticed that in my dating groups. I just keep doing this mistake over and over again.

You're like, it could be you. It could be something you're doing. And they're like, really? Nah, self accountability. What a thing. So why is emotional intelligence? Would it be fair to say that emotional intelligence is kind of your whole focus and, and, and what you're doing and helping people there. And why is it important?

I mean, so emotional intelligence is, is what truly, you know, get things started. So we don't have it, put it into practice, which is that transitional space that I refer to is going from being an emotionally intelligent being to someone who functions in a state of emotional agility. And so that's where we talk, that's what I mean by it has to be in action. So we can be emotionally intelligent and not live in a state of agility. We can say, Oh, I know. Right. So most people, they have the information, but what they don't have is that better application. So we sit in those self-help books and, and so the, my least favorite phrase to

hear from somebody is I already know that I have, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm extremely resilient yet they're sitting there completely derailed from everything that is coming at them in life. And it's you're not being agile. Ah, so you need to be emotionally agile. Is maybe that a good assumption from. Yeah. You gotta be able to boogie board with those emotions be Bob.

We even dive, you know, from all the bad emotions or at least, you know, how you react to them, I suppose, is reaction one of the keys to it. One of the factors in how you react to emotions that make you intelligent kind of went on a little journey there. I like that you said that because. Reacting is very knee-jerk. It's very impulsive. So what we want to, in the essence of the work that,

I will sit with and help somebody cultivate is the ability to see something coming and not react and actually formulate the response that is going to allow them to see themselves experiencing whatever that is, the way that they desire or receiving, receiving whatever's coming at them in a way that will serve them so that they can be received in the way that they want to be perceived, which I know sounds kind of convoluted, but how do I want to see myself experiencing living? I want to see myself as a caring, insightful, interesting, polished, poised, whatever it is for you, pick an adjective. I want to see myself like that. So when somebody comes in and throws something at you,

right, says something to you that catches you off guard, perhaps insults you, like you can see that and it stays out there until you say, Huh, wait, what do I want to do with this? Right? What's, what's going to allow me to still come across the way that I want to be instead of road rage, we move over a lane and wish the person well as they pass us by. we move over a lane and wish the person well as they pass us by. Instead of break checking the tailgater, you just, you move over and you're like, wow, don't know what's happening in your life. It's none of my business. Let me give you a couple of blessings. Pete You know, it's, it's emotional intelligence. I don't think we study and teach enough. I didn't learn what emotional intelligence was until later in life and why it was important. I studied stoicism

and other things and those kind of teach you emotional regulations. Part of masculinity is stoicism. It's the owner's manual for being a man, really, masculinity. And one of the things stoicism talks about is that emotional intelligence and being able to be non-reactive emotionally, at least not in an uncontrollable way to your emotions. So as men, we tend to pick up things, we work in boxes and we tend to pick up things and we can look at them and go, I feel something, you know, my dog dies, I'm going to feel something about it, but I'm going to look at it and go, okay, this is a feeling. Why am I feeling that way?

What's causing that? Do I need to address that? You know, is that an appropriate feeling? Do I need to feel this? You know, we can look at it and go, I don't really need to feel anything about this. There's no, there's nothing that's going to serve me or contribute to the situation if I feel something, you something. If someone comes at me and they're in an amplified emotional state as a man, we're born killers. It's in our genetics to be

killers. So if you come at me that way, I could easily very react that I see you as an approaching enemy that is a danger to myself, my family, or what I'm protecting as a man. And I'm going to, you know, emotionally react. But you know, technically as, you know, we have that emotional intelligence from stoicism where we go, okay, we can control our feelings. Why? So, what was I getting to? So that's kind of one of the things, I don't want to even flush that idea out a little

bit more maybe. So I'm trying to build an idea or concept for people that are listening on what emotional intelligence is and the application of it. You know, to your point, and what I was hearing in the words you were saying, which were very valid, you know, there's this, you know, myth out there that as human beings, we're supposed to get over things. And the fact of the matter is, is we're not designed to get over things. We're built in a fashion to move through them. So we're built to move through situations with clarity, through strategy, and in a state of emotional fitness. And so this is what I teach. So if we look at, okay, emotional intelligence as a whole,

it's exactly what you were saying, right? Like distress tolerance, emotion regulation, resilience. Emotional regulation, resilience, emotional regulation. There's the words I'm looking for. Yeah. It's, it's that, it's that ability to regulate. And, and so there's, there's all kinds of things that you can bring in. The key is, and to go back to what I was kind of highlighting a bit ago is, you know, we'll read a book on meditation, or we'll listen to a podcast on, I don't And the thing is, unless you can put things together in a way that says, OK, this thing is happening right now,

I'm going to do this, this, and this, and it's going to get me through. And at the end, I'm going to acknowledge myself and say, Oh, that group of psychological skill sets, tools and tactics served me in this type of a situation. I'm going to try it again. And I'm going to keep improving upon it. The problem is most people, they just get hit upside the head. You get fired from a job, you weren't expecting it, you know, they just get hit upside the head. You get fired from a job you weren't expecting it. You crumble and then you go into this entire external locus of control, which is now my

thoughts, feelings, emotions and opinions are all being driven by something that's outside of me. And I'll use something super easy, right? Because I work with a lot of people on their relationships with alcohol. that's outside of me. And I'll use something super easy, right? Because I work with a lot of people on their relationships with alcohol. Oh, really? OK. Oh, that's, you know, the probably the primary alcohol and food. Right. So emotional, even when people are are the two things that I work with people.

It's what they come for initially. And then we do all the rest of the work to fix it. But so you go go to work all week long and all week long you're coping, right? You're just getting through and so you go to work, you come home, you're annoyed, you have a couple of beers, right? To unwind. The end of the week maybe you cut loose, you go out and you're partying it up with your friends, whatever it looks like. That what you've done is you've given an emotional job to alcohol. So now you're reliant on

something outside of you to bring you peace, joy, comfort, relief, value, validity, worthiness, whatever it is, right? Just like we need the thumbs up in social media. That's an external locus of control. We're now relying on all these people out there we don't know to tell us that that we're worthy of some sort of social status or whatever. And I really want those drives to come inward. That's what a lot of people seem to be doing on social media. They're looking for validation and attention and, and feedback and stuff.

People literally say the words to me. That's where I get my worth. From social media? From, from external recognition. Okay. Okay. Isn't that, isn't that interesting? Do you find that's more predominant with women than men? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Why, why? You know, that's one of the things that I've been asking myself about dating and the books. And I believe I kind of understand why women do that because, you know, they're designed to attract a mate. And so it seems like they look, if my assumptions are correct, that they look to that social media, that outward validation, the attention they can drive is as to almost like status or value as it were. Is that a correct assumption?

Interesting. Yeah. It's very interesting and also very sad at the same time. Right? So we're, you know, we're, if we don't feel attractive, and we've got to have people, you know, we've got to have these big photo shoots. And it's something that, you know, and I get on social media, and I see other people, you know, say in our own space, right, entrepreneurs, and they, you know, they're, they got to have the big photo shoots, and they've got to have this image, and they've got to, you know, they're, they got to have the big photo shoots and they've got to have this image and they've got to, you know, this look about, you know, everything.

And, and, you know, instead of it coming from that internal space of, of just, you know, this is me today, right? Whether I'm in my sweats or, you know, I've got my hair in a ponytail, or whatever doesn't make, you know, what's inside of me any less valuable. You know, there's that, and believe me, I've lived a lot of life. And I didn't come to this space in my mid 50s, by accident, or by design, even I, I, you know, I've ended up here with, with the knowledge and the gifts that I give because I, I've had a really big, long life filled

with all kinds of learning opportunity. You know, that's the great thing about making the mistakes and I have an owner's manual to life. It really would help whoever's out there that's supposed great thing about making the mistakes and not have an owner's manual to life. It really would help whoever's out there that's supposed to design the owner's manual to life. I think we should start calling Chris Voss show the owner's manual to life because we've got 2400 episodes of how to live your life better. We're kind of an owner's manual. I think at this point, if you can pick a tree through it, the owner's manual to life, the

Chris Voss show the owner's manual to life. I like that line. Now you, you tell us about your journey. You mentioned you work with the alcoholics and people that have food addiction, I believe a little bit. I don't want to put words in your mouth. Tell us about your life experience or summation of it and how you kind of went on this journey, how you learn these things you're

teaching other people nowadays. kind of went on this journey? How are you learning these things you're teaching other people nowadays? You know, it's it's been such an amazing gift and wonderful ride, you know, I without doing the whole story without the whole story because you know, growing up, I had a really great life with a lot of wonderful beautiful things, but I also faced a lot of extreme traumas before I watched my dad get struck by lightning. Really? Was that when you were young as a child? I was four, yeah. Wow.

And I endured, you know, a lot of different things from sexual assault to domestic violence to near death experiences of my own. And you know, a lot of loss. And through that, right, like our learned behaviors, what was being led to us, especially in the seventies, right? Like alcohol was pretty normal. So I learned to, I mean, I don't know, I remember getting in the car with, you know, the parents taking us to go toilet papering and they had a big, you know, they brought the wine bottle with them. Your parents went toilet papering? I mean, I remember doing it when I was young as a

teen, but I didn't know adults were doing that. No, I had some friends that parents, they were really cool. They would just load us up in the Volvo and, you know, drive us around and we'd go toilet papering and they'd just kind of hang out together in the car and drink their wine. But you know, so I, you know, I, when my dad was killed, when I was 12, when we were on vacation, right, like I was looking around at all the adults and there they were, right, smiling and having conversation at the funeral and they all had a beer in their hand and a cigarette, right? So I picked up a six pack of beer and grabbed a pack of cigarettes and my cousin. And, you know, we took off behind the tree and, you know, there, there it was, but.

Did that end up being a crutch for you and dealing with your father's passing? It did through the trauma years. So alcohol, anorexia, you know, they, they, they were big crutches for me. I also was an athlete and you know, staying thin was also, you know, they were big crutches for me. I also was an athlete and you know, staying thin was also, you know, a big push. And then, you know, eating disorders also go right along with, you know, sexual trauma and domestic violence, you know, there was there were those seasons. But what happened to me that really created the transition wasn't anything at all trauma related, right? Like

I, my husband and I've been together for 28 years and we have five children and almost six, almost six grandchildren now. But, you know, I developed a physiological addiction later in life. And and what happened was, you know, my medical provider, knowing I was a low level, you know, daily drinker, I would have a couple beers in the evening, you know, prescribed me Xanax for anxiety disorder, and prescribed it over the course of five years. Anyway, so I developed a physiological addiction. So to get back to what you asked, so I went to, I went to a detox, a medical detox to do it safely because alcohol and benzodiazepines detoxing from both of those could kill you. So I went to a medical detox so that I could do it the right way.

Um, I went in a% sober, clear-headed. And what I noticed when I was done with that standardized treatment program was that, you learned a lot, but there wasn't anybody there to really tell you what to do when you got back. So I went to school and started studying the physiological effects of drugs and alcohol in your body. So insert my starting passion for psycho nutrition and a whole new way of regulating

the human body through your thoughts. And I worked in every level of addiction treatment. And the big, huge gap of service that I found was in the discharge process when you're sending people back home. But you take somebody who's been drinking for the last, I don't know, 10, 20, 30 years, and you send them back to the same house, spouse, kids, Bill's job.

Somebody has to be there to teach them how to use the tools in their life. And then so the huge gap. So I did that. And, you know, you know, throughout that whole first five years of being in practice, I start people started coming, hey, I don't have an addiction, but I wonder if you could help me.

I need everything that you're teaching, right? I was referred to you by and and so we, you know so we really just dove in and started leaning into the fact that we all need to learn how to live for ourselves first without feeling guilty, selfish, punished or restricted. And so teaching people that locus of control, what it means and where their sweet spot is. So they aren't reliant upon something outside of them for their validity.

Pete Yeah. And how many years into your marriage did you go into for that help and try and reset that? Julie I'm going to say about midway, because I've been in practice now just about 12 years it was empty nest so the empty nest hit me oh really hard okay and if I if I'm to highlight when the generalized anxiety disorder came so I had a full hysterectomy at 29 you know then changed my whole hormonal makeup. Yeah, that'll do it. That'll put you in menopause. Everything won't.

Yeah. And so it changed my hormonal makeup. And then the kids growing up and moving out was really difficult. And our oldest daughter is a cancer survivor. So there's a lot of attachment a lot of, you know, attachment around raising the kids and my worth. I had, I've been a parent since I was 16. Yeah. Some of my near death experience is, is, you know, part of why. So when you see your near death experience, what was was that and how old were you when you got married?

Lauren Ruffin I was 30 when I got married. Pete Slauson Oh, okay. When you started having kids at 16. Lauren Ruffin Okay. Lauren Ruffin Yeah, so we're a blended family. Pete Slauson I'm just trying to paint a picture of your journey and how, you know, some of the experiences that shaped your childhood, they changed your life and a lot of people have that shaped your childhood, it changed your life. And a lot of people have been through that. So they're going through, how did you know when it was time to

get help? Because if someone's out there in the audience listening right now, they're like, yeah, I drink a little too much. When I couldn't not, when I couldn't not, meaning when I couldn't not take a Xanax in the morning to regulate my anxiety, when I couldn't not, you know, manage shakes or, you know, an uneasy feeling without, without alcohol. And if you study the physiological effects, so that it was a quiet journey over a course of a five-year period after introducing the Xanax that really exacerbated the physiological addiction.

And so it was almost unnoticeable until it was just boom, loud as loud as loud. Did you find that maybe, maybe the quietness and clarity that you get from an empty nest, you know, where suddenly, you know, there's probably, you know, being a mom and there's a lot of parent, there's a lot of things that keep you, you know, there's a lot of busy work, you know, you're constantly being attentive to the children, and then they're gone, and you're kind of left just looking yourself in the mirror Maybe did you find that that that sort of you know, not having a full schedule Contemplative yeah, I just had no idea what my purpose for living was no Wow, you know when I say, you know, I was a

Adolescent parent like my physical body told me that it was time to have a child at 17 and or 16. And it was right. I lost two after him and then, you know, almost lost my life because of the severity of endometriosis and chronic cysts that were happening inside of my body. In fact, my husband took me to the hospital frequently, almost on a weekly basis because I was having some sort of a scare or another. So my body was attacking itself. And, and, and so autoimmune disease has been something I've battled for a lot of, a lot of, and so through psycho nutrition, I've had the ability to remove four autoimmune diseases from my body. Yeah.

Do you think it, do you think the alcohol and the pills maybe aspirated that I bring that up? Yeah. Nope. Being with you in there, you know, I, I, I used alcohol as a crutch for 20 years and didn't have an addiction. I want to make that clear because there's, it's really important to know the addiction, but I abused it and I did it because for a lot of it was, it was a fuel for me.

So if I, I was so stressed out that with anxiety, OCD, ADHD, and running businesses, that it would cool me out. And if you relax me, I could, I could do more work in a day. Sometimes at the end of the night, it was usually the night I'd pour one out and I could kind of get that sugar rush from that, from the alcohol. And so it became like a juice. So you used to run the machine, I used to call it. And, and I knew that if I woke up drinking, that would be a problem.

But usually I had to paint one on and get a couple of hours of work or fun or, you know, gaming, whatever. And yeah, a lot of people use it across. Now you use the term psycho nutrition. Tell us what that means specifically and how it's different than just normal nutrition. It's connecting all of the dots. So if we look at, you know, our gut, heart, brain, access, they're all connected. And if they're not all functioning, right, then, then we are are our organic being isn't gonna function well. You know the very first brain that develops is our heart brain. If we look at you know in conception, right? So our heart brain is first and so when

we have a lot of stress everybody knows, right? We've got the oxidative stress then we've got the cortisol dump stress and we've got the cortisol dumps and all of these things. You know, it can be, you know, when people come to me complaining of, you know, brain fog, fatigue, you know, and they get into these deep, what I call, depressive states and or anxiety and we start looking at what are you fueling your body with? Like this is the only vessel we will ever have. It's 100% guaranteed. So I like to use this analogy. So if when you turn 16, you are given a car

and you were told this is literally the only vehicle you are allowed to ever have your whole life. So if you don't, like it's up to you, if you wanna have it until the day you die. So you're not gonna put latex paint in the gas tank. You're not gonna put sugar in the brake fluid. You're not gonna put, right? Like you're gonna probably make sure

that the tires are rotated and all the things so that it continues to run. But yet we put garbage in our body and expect it to function well. Now to all of you people out there that are saying, I eat totally healthy. I get it. I ate really healthy. Also, the problem was that is that even some of those foods didn't serve me. If I give you an illustration, nightshades.

So things like onion, tomatoes, peppers, I'm so silly, right? So garlic and onion, and tomatoes, I ate that a lot. Not really unhealthy, but bad for me. Oh really? They cause nothing but inflammation inside my body. I spent a solid year investigating which foods caused me inflammation, which foods caused me to slow down, which foods caused gastrointestinal issues, which, you know, all the things. So just because you're making healthy choices doesn't mean that they're actually right for your physical

engine, right? For your engine. And so that I don't subscribe to a diet. I don't recommend a diet specific. I recommend a journey of getting to know which type of fuel serves you so that you function at the highest optimal for yourself. And I mean, mind, body, spirit, so that full gut, heart, brain access. Years ago, I quit drinking 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day. Years later, I quit drinking 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day. Years later, I quit drinking vodka. I could, I could, I quit drinking because I could feel that a few nights, a few hours of fun on Friday night would make my body just drag energy wise, but it'd make me bloat.

I'd store all sorts of waters or as my body's way of trying to overcompensate for, you know, oh, you're dehydrated now, you did your little party there, buddy. And then would just flood my system with water and then the next couple of days would be getting rid of that water. And I would just be on this roller coaster of just abuse my body for a couple of hours with alcohol, come back and at 50, my body was like, we're not doing this with you anymore. It's been fun and you're stupid and you did a bunch of stupid stuff and alcohol, but yeah,

we're not doing this anymore. If you want to drink a couple nights, we're going to make three days of hell for you. And did a really good job convincing me in that way. Cause pain has way of doing that. And you know, I reached a point where I'm just like, I'm not doing this. The same thing with food. I quit, I got tired of being a hundred plus pounds overweight and I started intermittent fasting.

I started paying attention to what I put in my pile. If it's in your house, it's in your mouth. You go to the store, you order stuff. I started eating clean and healthy. I don't, you know, I was a pseudo-vegetarian, let's put it that way, where I was making sure in eating healthy live foods as opposed to dead foods, as they call it, you know, going produce, all that sort of stuff, and lightly, or little to no processed foods basically. And boy, it changed my world.

It changed my world. It changed my gut health. It changed how I felt, how I went through life. I had more energy. I don't get that crash that you get when you eat garbage food and then you have that sugar crash and all that sort of good stuff. And boy, I mean, it's made a whole difference in the quality of my life by just what I'm eating and putting in the pie hole mouth, you know, the one shut up. Yeah. It's been

a difference in my life. I don't want your thoughts. Some extremely valid things there, you know, about that cycle. And I think it's worth coming back to and maybe it looks different for some. But I always tell people, hey, if you're going to go out on Friday and wreck yourself all weekend, just do it knowing what you're signing up for. And when we go on these alcohol, we'll call them vendors, whatever, it doesn't it whether it's a crutch or if it's just you know Hey, I'm going on a vacation. You have to know that you're signing up for three to four days of anxiety and depressive states and and that's just on a Physiological level like the anxiety and depressive state so you'll yeah

Anybody that's listening, observe yourself. Monday through Thursday, how do you feel? What is your attitude? What is your demeanor? Are you low? Are you brain foggy? Are you edgy? Are you quick to snip and snap at people, et cetera, et

cetera? And then you get to that Thursday or Friday when it's OK to go to happy hour. And suddenly it's, oh, yeah. And then it's like saying perpetual thing over and over again that's not saying you're an addict and alcoholic and anything like that it's just say that this is what your physical body is telling you you know I always tell people you know actually I don't want to

take your wine away from you I don't want to take your beer away from you if if you don't need it to be cool deal if you want to have a glass of wine on Thursday because it pairs well with your steak sweet do that take the if you don't need it to be. Cool deal, if you wanna have a glass of wine on Thursday because it pairs well with your steak, sweet, do that. Take the emotional purpose away from it. So when, because it pairs with the steak when your steak is gone, the glass of wine will be gone and you don't need it anymore

because you're not looking for an emotional change or an attitude adjustment that is really going to backfire on you. Cause at the backside of that equals anxiety and depressive states. And I'm not talking depression. I'm just depressive states. Nobody wakes up and goes, Hey, I feel better than I did yesterday. And I drank a, you know, 12 pack.

Let's get a plugin for your app. How does that work? How do you use it? What platforms available, et cetera, et cetera. Oh, thank you. Thank you. You know, total emotional performance. The app is a brand new space

that is already underway and highly function. It is under spaces by Wix. We have not taken it to the app store yet, but you can definitely get on by visiting trishaperido.com. And in there, we have there's several different levels you can choose from. But I always tell people just start at the very free basic and go come in and do a coping audit. Do a habit audit, do an emotional agility quiz, listen to the playlist that I put there for the emotional agility playlist for high achievers

and see how it resonates with you before even thinking about anything else. But you can just chat with me, it's all here. We are creating a crossover so that some of it is on desktop and hopefully most of it will be interchangeable from desktop to app. But you know, development is, is awesome. But you know, I just, I'm really excited about having this space where, you know, we can

go into emotional agility training versus just sitting around talking about it or reading about it. And you help people with that. How can people on board with you? How can they reach out to you? I noticed there's several prompts and offers you have on your website. Walk us through those and tell us how people can utilize those. I see there's a beta program, exclusive act.

That was actually last month. It actually just ended this week at the beginning of the week. Um, so I, this is what I say all the time, Chris, because I haven't met you yet. And I'm a pretty moral ethical being, right? Like I don't want anybody to just sign up for a program and spend money. I always just say, book a consultation with me. I love having conversations and chats with 12 years of clinical experience.

I'd love to just sit and hear what your aspirations are, what's missing from your life, what you think you desire. And hey, if we can take a journey together, great. And if not, I might be able to help you find the actual answer. So the best thing to do is just to jump on my calendar. And they can do that by pressing the buttons in your website, checking all those wares out and all that good stuff.

Is there anything we haven't talked about that you want to tease out to people that have them get to know you better and, and, and, and get to know you more in your services? know you better and get to know you more in your services. You know, I honestly just want people to realize, you know, that sometimes, you know, we just got to, you know, walk away from the hopes that meditation and manifestation are going to serve us. You know, it's great to have those things in our lives, but we've got to create our own strategy and our own system that is uniquely made for us as individual beings.

We can't say, hey, I want to do it this way because it worked for somebody else. You've got to find your own unique. And that's the gift that I have is having that ability to help people create something that is truly unique just for them so that they can experience living the way they want to. You know, yeah, no, I really I really don't have any other plugs. I don't know. I'm not a very good store person. I'm not gonna sell myself to people.

I'm an acquired taste, but I'm a no fluff kind of person, but I'm also very kind and giving. I agree. It's good to have that sampling because, guiding people through some of these issues, if they're out there dealing with their stuff as well, you know, it's good to be able to do this and you're helping people fix it. Thank you very much for coming on the show. We really appreciate it, Tricia.

Tricia Perdo Thank you so much. Pete Slauson Thank you. And thanks, Ron, for tuning in. Oh, give us your dot coms one less time as we go out, if you would please. Tricia Perdo It's Tricia Perdo, T-R C I A P a R I D O.com. Thank you Trisha for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. Thanks for tuning in. Go to good reads.com fortress.

Chris Foss, linkedin.com fortress. Chris Foss, Chris Foss, one of the tick tockity and all those crazy places in it. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you guys next time. And that should have.