The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Exploring Weight Loss and ED Solutions with Evolve Weight Loss Clinic Experts

Episode Date: September 21, 2025

Exploring Weight Loss and ED Solutions with Evolve Weight Loss Clinic Experts Evolveweightlossclinic.com About the Guest(s): Eugene Ness is the founder of Evolve Weight Loss and Wellness, a clinic dedicated to transforming people's health through medical weight loss and regenerative medicine. With a solid background of 33 years in pharmacy and 20 years as a pharmacy owner, Eugene brings deep expertise in healthcare and a passion for patient education. His mission is to empower individuals to take control of their wellness through sustainable lifestyle changes. Outside of his professional endeavors, he enjoys traveling, fishing, and fantasy football. Dr. Sean Aurora serves as the medical director at Evolve Weight Loss and Wellness. His work focuses on integrating advanced medical practices for holistic health improvement, including regenerative therapies and hormone health. He also plays a crucial role in Aurora Health, where he offers medical directorship programs for a wide range of health treatments. Episode Summary: In this enlightening episode of The Chris Voss Show, hosts Eugene Ness and Dr. Sean Aurora delve into the transformative power of modern health solutions, particularly in the realms of weight loss and regenerative medicine. They bring robust expertise and a holistic approach to the treatment of common issues such as erectile dysfunction (ED) and obesity, emphasizing the need for education, gradual progress, and lifestyle changes for sustainable health improvements. Eugene and Dr. Sean discuss the growing demand for medical treatments such as weight loss medications and regenerative therapies like PRP and exosomes. They address common misconceptions, emphasize the holistic model Evolve employs, and discuss the importance of psychological and physical wellbeing in treating issues like ED. With a systemic approach, they aim to provide their patients the means to reclaim control over their health, utilizing evidence-based practices and personalized treatment plans. The episode tackles critical questions about the state of men's health today and offers valuable insights for those seeking to improve their wellness. Key Takeaways: Holistic Approach: Eugene and Dr. Sean stress the importance of a 360-degree approach to health issues, particularly focusing on the integration of lifestyle changes, hormonal health, and regenerative medicine. Regenerative Medicine: Exosomal therapies and PRP are highlighted as key methodologies for improving sexual health and other conditions, backed by a growing body of scientific research. The Role of Education: Both guests emphasize the critical role of patient education in understanding and managing their health conditions effectively. Addressing Misconceptions: They clarify common misconceptions about weight loss drugs and erectile dysfunction, advocating for science-backed, realistic expectations. Telemedicine Advantages: The episode showcases the benefits of telemedicine in managing weight loss and wellness consultations, allowing wider access to advanced health care. Notable Quotes: "The goal there with regenerative therapy has always been to improve function, reduce inflammation, support long-term health, and it's not really a quick fix." "We really want to provide access to wonderful therapies in a safe, compliant way." "When we educate them in plain language, they feel less broken and more in control." "If you're gonna just take the medication, you might not lose weight at all." "It's not about just one pill… It's really about creating that roadmap."

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Terry of amazing two young men on the show with us today. We're going to be talking about their company, how they do, and weight loss. That seems to be a popular thing everyone likes to have. We're going to be talking with Eugene Osniss on the show and Dr. Sean Aurora, who's a medical director at Evolve Weight Loss and Wellness. We're going to get into it with them. Eugene is the founder of Evolve Weight Loss and Wellness, where he helps people transform their health through medical weight loss,

regenerative medicine and lifestyle coaching with a 33-year background in pharmacy and 20 years as a pharmacy owner, Eugene brings deep expertise to the health care and passion for patient education. He now helps people transform their health through weight loss and medical weight loss, I should specify, and regenerative medicine, where he's committed to empowering people to take control of their wellness through knowledge and sustainable change. Outside of work, and Joyce Traveler's wife, fishing and dominating his fantasy football leagues. Welcome to the show of Eugene and Dr. Sean. How are you? Thank you. Thank you very much, Chris. Thank you.

Pleasure to be here. Pleasure to have you guys. Give us both your dot-coms. Where do you want people to get to know you guys better on the interwebs and social media? I mean, our website is, you know, evolve weight loss clinic.com. We could see all our services that we provide. You're able to make appointments if you want to have a consultation or just want to talk about your issues. you can do everything on there. Cool.

Someone to call and talk to about my issues. There you go. Eugene, any dot coms in addition that you need? No, that's it. That's the only one. All right. And then Dr. Sean Aurora, do we have yours in? Yeah, Aurora-Halth.com,

where we offer our medical directorship program for everything that you can imagine. Regenerative therapies, IV, aesthetics, weight loss, peptides, HRT. Peptides, that might be interesting. I've been on TRT for a while and we're talking with peptide people about, and we've had some peptide people on the show. What about stupidity? You guys figured out how to solve medical stupidity?

There's a whole Twitter application that you guys can buy yachts with. Anyway, so give us a 30,000 overview, if you would, I'll give this to both you guys. We'll lead off with Eugene. Give us a 30,000 overview of what you guys do there at the clinic. When we started the clinic, we basically started with the medical, weight loss and from there we started adding services over the past a year and a half and one the main service that we started offering was regenerative therapy and specifically for erectile dysfunction so that was something that kind of took off for us and that's what you know

so medical weight loss and you know regenerative therapy specifically for ed that's that's been our bread and butter right now is regenerative therapy mostly like ed or is there other regenerative things that can go on there? I mean, exosome, we offer exosome therapy, which is kind of like a, you know, a very broad spectrum of therapies that it can provide, hair restoration, neuropathy, skin rejuvenation, like, it's just a huge scope. It's always being studied and always being expanded on, but with us, it's something that we've hit on for ED has become very, very popular on our end.

And that's what, you know, we've been consulting. with on a regular basis. Dr. Aurora. Yeah, I don't know if you want to jump in and your thoughts on how you guys do what you do. Absolutely. No, I mean, regenerative therapy, obviously we're hearing the name all the time now. And not just for ED, but for a variety of different things. The goal there with regenerative theory has always been to improve function,

reduce information, support long-term health. And it's not really a quick fix. And we're trying to stay away from that term. I don't believe there's a quick fix when, and a lot of different. diagnoses these days. And that's what everybody wants, but it's really about creating that roadmap. And that's what we focus, especially at evolve. Why is ED seen to be coming a thing? Is that, you know, I know that there's, we have a lot of estrogenics in our waters and our soaps and different things that attack, that attack testosterone. There's, I don't know, we have the

lowest, I think historically, we have the lowest testosterone driven men ever. But I don't I don't know, you guys are the pros on this, so I'm asking the question. But is there something going on that this is the thing, or is it just the availability and the kind of acceptance of men that, you know, hey, it's, you know, it's not so embarrassing to go ask for help. Yeah, absolutely. You're absolutely right. I think we're in that day and age now where, you know, social media is huge. A lot of people are talking about this problem. Before, it was more about, hey, you know, just kind of hiding behind the door.

the chair and you know not really wanting to discuss these things and men they don't talk about this stuff and but they very well should and there are options now and that's what we want to do we really want to provide access to wonderful therapies in the safe and a compliant way and education like hey there's if you've tried things in the past and then you just thought hey there's no way around it there are new ways now that we can kind of explore and the goal isn't really to make the man feel broken but really show that hey solutions exist and they're backed by science and we try to do that at a vault. Yeah. Eugene? I'll be honest with you, from what I've seen, it's, compared to what it was 30, 40 years ago, there's also a huge rise in diabetes in this country.

And from what I've been reading, all the research that we've done, diabetes is a big, is a very, very popular disease that causes a lot of nerve damage, especially in that growing area. So this is something that, you know, I had no clue when we started this that, you know, if you look at it, there's about 38 million men in this country, 18 and over that suffer from some form of ED. And if you take a look at it, it's one out of every three men, you know, but the problem is men don't talk about it with each other. You know, so when you have weight loss, you see somebody, oh, you lost some weight. Oh, that's great. You look good. Where'd you go? you know with ed nobody's really discussing it so that's it's always been it's always been a hush hush type of issue but i think more and more people are realizing this is this is not just them that it's out there you know from the people i consult actually i speak to them and they tell me you

know i speak to i have you know two three other friends you know that's us going through the same thing and that surprises me because you know 20 years ago men didn't talk about this with each Yeah, I've, you know, I got a vasectomy early on in my life and talking about it around men, you know, just has always made it weird. But every now and then I have, you know, a buddy will come up to me and be like, yeah, hey, I finally got my vasectomy. And I'm like, that's great. And they want to tell me about it. And I'm like, dude, I don't really want to hear about your surgery because, you know, I had to have my surgery with me under aesthetics or anesthetic because I didn't, I just couldn't hand. handle it. I was 22 at the time. I was like, if I screw this up, this thing doesn't work for the rest

of my life. Where most guys, you know, like 50 who go in for a vasectomy or whatever the age they are, you know, they've already, they've already worn that thing out, basically, and they've got some kids in their belt and some nice child support going on. But, but it's funny, you know, men will come out to me and they'll, hey, you know, I got that, and you're like, it's not really a secret, dude. We're just human beings going through here. And then talking about astrogenics, We've had a number of people in the show that have talked about estrogenics and some of the estrogenics in our food, and especially in our soaps and cleaners and stuff. And it's attacking and eating testosterone. And then, and some of that comes from being overweight too, right?

Whether you're, whether you're, you know, one of the problems I had for a lot of my life was I was so overweight and so low on testosterone. And my estrogen was just eating the hell out of my testosterone all the time. And now we finally got it. You know, I still take an estrogen blocker once a week at the clinic. But, you know, and then I think, you know, I see now like on TikTok where things are really popular on social media, you know, you have these different, I don't know how healthy they are for you, but, you know, you have these different pill forms they brag about. No, if you're having ED and maybe some of those social messages and advertisements have helped normalize that, hey, it's okay to talk about. I don't know. Yeah, and I'm not, you know, opposed to that idea, right?

Like a lot of these ads that are out there, I think what that is allowing for males to talk about it. Hey, it's okay to talk about this now, right? Normalize it a little bit. A lot of us are going through it. It's not something that's just, you know, as you get older, it can happen to someone that's a lot younger. As you mentioned, it's not just, you know, one thing that could cause it. It's several different things. A real, like a lifestyle, for example, weight issues, stress issues, hormones in your case, sleep.

There's so many different things that can be a result of it. And we don't want to just patch those problems. You really want to understand the patient. And that's where I think it kind of varies from company to company is like how they approach it, where one, I like the idea that they're normalizing it, where we can speak about it. But then the education that they receive back, they have to know there's many factors that can actually cause ED. And then we can find out, hey, what's the best solution for them? What's the best foundation that we can build for them from a treatment standpoint?

from a treatment standpoint. Yeah. So, I mean, when we have patients that, you know, come in, you know, call us up for consultation, we kind of look at everything with them, not just the symptoms that they're having. So someone comes in, for example, for ED, we talk about the psychological side as well as the physical side. We talk about their weight, their stress, their lifestyle, all of it. Often the best results come from combining things like weight loss and regenerative treatments. so everything is working together. And yeah, I mean, this is something more guys need to talk about. And, you know, I mean, sometimes maybe you just need to,

maybe you just need to get that trophy wife. Does that maybe help with ADD or is that just a joke? It can get you in more trouble. I'll tell you. From what I hear from a lot of patients, you know, most of my patients are like 55 and up, right and a lot of them are single and when i'm speaking to them and a lot of them are dating but what i you know what surprised me you know they're all day you know 65 year olds dating like 25 year olds you know so it kind of like but then they say to me the same thing you know you go on

two three dates and then they expect you to pay their bills and they're like now we're out you know so that's when they that's when they want but that you know they all want like a serious relationship at some point but you know they kind of like shying away because of their ed and you know, that's where we, you know, we help, we try to help them the most. I have a huge dating group that I oversee about 5,000 people. And, yeah, it's interesting. One of the, you know, women usually have a whole list of delusional expectations for men. When you ask them what their list is, they provide, just get me.

Right. It's a joke, people. It is, actually. And they, and one of the new lists that I hear my women in the group, they're in their 50s and 60s talking about, is the new thing to get adds to the list is that the pipes still work. And I'm just like, the guy's like 65, 70. What do you want? But that's what they want. And they want a guy who's the pipes still work.

And I guess can still break headboards into 95, I guess, or something. That's the world we live in, folks. Grandma still got to get her groove on. Do you guys focus mostly on the weight loss of drugs then? It's not that we mostly, you know, focus on it. It's just that we've been doing that since day one. Whereas regenerative therapy, we don't be doing, you know, less than about maybe less than half a year. But, you know, the regenerative therapy side has just grown, has been growing quicker than the weight loss because of all the kind of like new guidelines they came out with weight loss. You know, a lot of insurance companies are starting to cover weight loss a little bit more. But. you know, it's still kind of like unavailable in pharmacies. It's still hard to get. It's still very expensive.

You know, it's just newer guidelines and, you know, less patients wanting to use it. But, you know, it's still, it's still one of the most popular things to do. Yeah. And a lot of people, I mean, you've seen people, like Sharon Osborne and I think her daughter was on it. It was some interesting stuff there and some dramatic weight loss. You know, they have that, what is that called, a Semple? big face? Yeah. I had a little bit of that when I was losing weight really fast where you know, I'd have a little, have a little turkey neck there going on, had to wait for the,

for the body to catch up and sometimes you just take a while. But you have a lot of that going on. What is the latest coming out of the weight loss, weight loss medications? What's the latest stuff that people should know about what's going on with them, how successful they're being, et cetera? Yeah, no, great question. There's tons of more. were studies coming out just really showing the benefits that these medications are having. The other day, I was just watching about the benefits of GLPs on cancer, for example, in increasing the risk of certain types of cancer, which I found very interesting. And it's, again, it's like these weight loss medications are great,

but what we like to do is not really just push the med itself and really offer a program. And I think that's important to avoid things like you said, right? Like a Zempic phase, losing weight too quickly is one of the things that we watch for as a program, why we do regular follow-ups and making sure we're not losing it drastically so we don't experience some of these side effects that could go along with GOPs.

They're absolutely wonderful medications, but offering a solid exercise plan, a nutrition plan that pairs well with the GLPs is very important. Recently, we've had talks with a triple board certified psychiatrist that we wanted to bring on as an advisory position who would actually help with the mental health aspect of it as well. It's a 360 thing, right?

It's a holistic view that we have to take when we start patients on GLPs or even regenerative therapies. And that's how we like to really focus when we see these patients. Yeah. Eugene? Yeah, I mean, when patients come into us and especially, you know, once in a while get a patient that comes in from another clinic that's kind of like, you know, already on a high dose of medication and they've stalled on their, you know, like kind of plateaued on that dose. You know, I try to keep, I try to explain that you want to stay on the low dose for as long as possible. Even if you lost eight, nine pounds in the first month and the second month, you only lost five pounds. Stay on that dose.

First of all, if it's working for you, stay on it. You'll always have time to move up. But if you move up too fast, I've seen people, I've seen patients that come to us that moved up very, very quickly. Every month they were moving up, even though they were losing weight. And then they get to a point where that's it, they stop and they have no more room. to move up there's no way to go and there's you have to combine other medications for them and you know it doesn't always work so they kind of get discouraged and they stop they stop using it and obviously when you stop really quick you know without doing any type of maintenance or microdosing you just

you gain it all back it's just your body is just not used to being without it your hormones start going crazy and you know it's it's it's very unfortunate that Not every clinic does it the right way. Not every doctor knows how to do it the right way. What are some misnomer's or some misinformation that are out there in the marketplace that people, you know, there's been all sorts of things that, you know, some people have thrown in and I've seen some exercise weight loss people, you know, throw shade at it. Some famously, I can't think of them, but some of them are on the national sort of scale of fitness advisor.

And I can kind of see that they don't like it because they make money off. of convincing people to be, you know, work out and be, I lose weight and get muscle. But some people need some extra help, you know, and, hey, you know, it's one money for another money, basically. Right. It's bad if you pay somebody else to lose weight. You have to pay me. What are the misnomer's that are out there in the marketplace?

One of the misnomer's is a lot of people think they can just take this medication and they're going to lose the weight no matter what, which is, it's, is, is, it's, is, it's, is, It's very, very false. If you're going to just take this medication, you might not lose weight at all. There's always, you have to combine this with a proper diet. You have to combine, you have to add some type of exercise. Even if you're, you know, older and you can't, you know, go out and lift weights and everything like that, but add some cardio, walk, you know, 30, 40 minutes a day. Because by itself, it's not going to work.

And people get discouraged. I've had patients that lose 10, 12 pounds in a month. And I've had patients that lose one or two pounds in a month. and they say that medication doesn't work. And then I asked them, do you exercise? What are you eating? What's your meal plan on a daily basis? I'm at McDonald's every day.

Exactly. So it's not something that by itself, this medication will not work. It just won't. You can see some people doing that thing where they're like, I'm losing weight. So now I can get an extra Big Mac every day. Right. Yeah, right. I'll just add a Diet Coke to it, though.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I love people who think they lose weight drinking diet. I tell people, I tell my patients, when I consult them, I say, listen, I don't tell you, I don't tell anybody to cut out completely any carbs or any sugars. Everyone is human. There's no such thing. It's going to be impossible. So, but I do tell them, if you're going to have a sandwich for lunch, don't have pizza for dinner. Just keep your carbs to a minimum. You want some extra carbs, have a fruit because a lot of fruit have carbs in them. And, you know, you'll be fine.

Yeah, you'll be fine. And eat healthy people. I mean, I just take good protein and then and then I have one square meal a day. Usually chicken, for some reason I found that chicken is like really good for me. Like, we really work together, chicken and I. Beef, not so much, but when it comes to working out and doing stuff, yeah. And talking about some of these other elements, now do people with your clinic, do you do telemedicine, do people have to come into it? Where is located? How does that work?

We're located in West Chesa County, specifically in Larchmont, right outside, right on the border with New Rochelle. And for consultations, we do do telemedicine. When it comes to people coming in for regenerative therapy, you know, obviously they do have to come in. We have a PA and NP that does the, you know, the therapy. But for weight loss, we, you know, we just order a prescription for them, you know, from our compounding pharmacies that were signed up with. And they deliver, you know, they mail it straight to their home in a vial. Some patients will come to me with that vial and, you know, to help them put in the syringes. We do that as well.

But, you know, most of the time, you know, they've kind of already, we've taught them how to do it on their own. But if they're still having trouble, they do come in. But the consultations are done all through telemedicine. Telemedicine, what a great thing. What an awesome thing. And plus, you know, you can help people all around the nation, I guess. You don't serve outside of the USDA, I imagine not? No.

Okay. All right. No. So now with you guys' therapy, you guys talk about holistic approach. How do you integrate metabolic optimization, hormone health, and regenerative medicine into being holistic? Like I said, we look at everything. We kind of combine everything holistically because, especially when it comes to regenerative therapy for ED or even weight loss, but we don't just talk about the psychological side, right? I mean, the physical side, we combine it with psychological. And it's a lifestyle that we look at and we try to recommend, you know, how to do, how to, how to, how to, how to, how to, what to eat, what type of diet to take, you know, how to, we give them like, you know, timelines that are realistic, right? I never tell anybody, you're going to lose, you know, two, three pounds a week. It's just not realistic. Some people want to hear that, but it's not realistic. And we don't, we don't, we don't, I'd rather kind of like undersell it and then, you know, you know, you know, you know,

know, if it doesn't, if it happens quicker, then they're happier. But, you know, we're straight with patients and we, we combine everything for them. So they show the best results when everything is combined. Yeah. And the one thing you got to do when you do these, like you say, change your diet because if you don't, you're just going to go back to being overweight because that's what got you there in the first place. Yeah. Absolutely. They are pretty amazing. Like I was, what I was shocked by was when I was on some form of Zemphic, I think one of the other ones, it really took away my interest in eating completely. And I started taking it right before Thanksgiving and went to Thanksgiving and then later to Christmas dinner. And I just started looking at the beautiful

fine dining food that we'd gone out for. And I'm just like, I can't even finish this. I couldn't even get to the dessert. But it's pretty great from that element. You just, you quit thinking about food. all the time. If you're kind of overweight like I have been most of my life, you know, you're kind of food conscious maybe. Now, many people are curious about new regenerative therapies like PRP or exomes. How do you do these explain these to patients in a way that's understandable and realistic? And what are they? Let's lay a foundation for that. So I keep it real simple, right? The simpler, the better so people understand it. PRP is like when you take your own blood's growth factors, put it back where your body needs it, needs the healing, right?

Exosomes are more like little text messages, right? Telling your cells how to repair themselves, right? So they can be powerful, but we said clear, like I said, we said clear expectations for the patients. We don't, you know, we don't give them super, you know, and we give them enough information for them to educate and to know, for them to be educated and to know what to expect. but you know we live in a society where we want instant gratification and this is not one of those this is not the therapy for that we don't sell any type of pills or anything that or any type of injections that will give you that will fix you in an hour and then 24 hours later it's gone we we try to get to the you know to the root cause of the issue and that's you know that's

what exosomes therapy is all about regenerative therapy Regenerate the therapy And then Now you built your clinic around trust How do you balance the excitement Of these cutting edge treatments? I think we talked a little bit about this With the need to keep expectations grounded

And that's probably true You know, when I first started losing weight I was losing two, three pounds a day But I was close to 400 pounds I was drinking 10 to 15 Mountain Dews a day Vodka and Mountain Dew at night And eating just like Taco Bell all the time basically And so just cutting

on the pop alone made a huge difference for me and losing weight. Of course, I was in my 40s, but I was losing about two, three pounds a day, which is quite fast, but, you know, I was consuming so much shit. So how do you do that, I guess? We don't sugarcate, we don't sugarcoat anything for the patients, right? Not with Mountain Dew. No, not even with Mountain Dew. A little bit with Red Bull, but not Mountain Dew. So we don't sugarcoat anything and tell them what they want to hear. Like a lot of them want to hear, oh, you know, when is, when am I going to see progress in a week? In two days, you know, we, we don't tell them that because there's a lot of hype online. So we explain what the research actually says and what we've seen work in real life. We'd rather, like I said,

we'd rather under promise and over-deliver. And in my opinion, that's how you build long-term trust. And how does education play a role in that, too? The education that we give is during the consultation and then with the follow-ups. You know, I actually have a little, you know, PowerPoint video that after my, you know, 45 minutes to an hour, free consultation that I give on Zoom, I send it to the patient so they can have a full view of everything that we've discussed. And, you know, we just, you know, we give them enough education for them to make a wise decision and, you know, not to, and not to expect something that's unexpected.

Yeah, when we feel like our patients, like, truly understand what they're actually, you know, putting in their body and taking in and we educate them appropriately, that's when I feel like they're ready to take some action after really understanding that piece. Now, is PRP? Does that include peptides, or does any of this include peptide treatment? I've been talking and seeing, and, you know, I've been taking testosterone therapy now in November for two years. and you know we've had people on the show talking about peptides is that involved in your guys this process at all yeah so i'm 100% for peptides i absolutely love them i think there's definitely a place for them and again this kind of falls in line with that holistic view right we we have our medical protocols for peptides but there's a place for them it's not for everyone if you're completely healthy and you're just looking to get you know even like super jacked or something like that, I wouldn't just recommend taking a peptide, right? Especially for the very

healthy patient. They are places for peptides. And again, similar to exosomes, you can consider them also being a similar type of a text message type situation. You know, for your body, it's short, it's direct, and it's to the point. But we need to make sure that we have the right use case for it. We do provide oversight protocols, you know, intakes forms, follow-ups, where right now, I mean, you could go online and buy it, go to peptidesciences.com or something like that and just, you know, get whatever peptide you want, which is scary to me. It's like without any sort of supervision, any sort of doctor oversight, which I don't like. I'm not for that type of life. A lot of people think that they're very knowledgeable and they can find these, the research on their

own. But at the end of the day, we are putting something in our body that does need that oversight from a medical profession. Yeah. You need some oversight because, you know, I have a lot of friends, not a lot, but I have a group of friends that are into the roids and they do their own stuff and boy, when they mucked themselves up, you know, one guy was like, let's see how a chest drawn estrogen blocker I could take and get it up for a week. You know, they muck around a little bit and boy, when they run little experiments on themselves, they really do some interesting things let's put it that way that you know and then they're like oh i got to wait till that gets out of my system for a next week or two and i'm like yeah i don't know about all that man

i don't know that i want to use myself as a lab experiment to stick with what works yeah when they mucked themselves up they they easily do it for a while and it's kind of interesting they're the business they're in but you know what do i know so now overseeing nationally clinics and stuff dr rora Why is a multi-faceted approach to ED combining lifestyle, hormones, regenerative therapies? Do you guys recommend that people get on the GLP and take the ED and I don't know, do you guys get into testosterone therapy, no? No, absolutely. I mean, we definitely oversee clients doing all these different types of therapies. It kind of plays into that holistic approach we talked about earlier where, you know, we really want to zoom out and look at the whole system, not just focus on

just one piece of it, right? I mean, when it comes to ED, and what of all of is doing is not just focusing on ED, focusing on one reason for ED, but it's really taking a look at the whole system and seeing why we have this, right? Is it hormone related? Is it weight related? Is it stress related? And then we'll tackle that issue, right?

All of this stuff is connected. And there's a reason for one of it. If we can solve it with just decreasing the amount of carbs they're taking in or fatty foods are taking in, and that's great. Why even talk about any other product? But if there's something else, if this is an issue that they've been dealing with for some time, they've tried multiple therapies in the past. And, you know, coming into Evolve for exosome therapy, it might be a great option. It might be awesome.

Having something like that, having access to something like that, where it's very hard to do. You know, what we say a lot at Aurora. And the same thing it translates at Evolve is that the real wind really happens when we line up everything together. And that's really our goal. We need to get everything straightened out. and when most of my patients they come to us from the beginning they're already skeptical right because everything they've tried in the past has not worked so when someone realizes after the consultation and the education that we give them going back to education because education

is the key right so when someone realizes there's a real treatment they get to the root cause for what they're going through they feel that they start feeling some you know that there is hope, right? So education gives them that role map. And once they see the progress, their confidence comes back and in every, in every aspect of their life and they become, there's like a huge psychological boosts with them as well. Yeah. I mean, when you feel better and you feel healthy, it makes all the difference, you know, when you can impress the woman in the bedroom there. You know, that makes you feel good. It makes you feel complete. So, you know, if you're happy with yourself and everybody else is happy with yourself, then everyone's happy sometimes.

Exactly. You might want to, that might be, we might want to put some fine print on that one. Well, the attorneys look into that. So that's some people you can't make happy. Now, regenerative medicine is expanding quickly. What excites you as some of the future things? Where do you see things going with the PRP, the exomes, and shockwave? If you talked about shockwave therapy, if you guys want to expand on that a little bit, too.

Yeah, definitely, right? we're trying to restructure the entire system with regenerative therapy. Not a lot of this stuff is FDA approved, right? It's always been very hard to get access to these medications, people flying out, people spending big money, the Kardashians, for example, spending big monies to get out of the country to go get exosomes or stem cells and everyone's, hey, this is, I can't do this, but now we're providing that access, right, in the safe, compliant way, providing it from the best product.

So that's exciting. That's a big step, a big jump forward. for exosomes and regenerative therapy. More and more things are coming out in this space that is very exciting. What we get more excited about, though, are the more use cases and studies that we're seeing to show the benefits of it, right? And it's very exciting. The more data that we have, the more comfort level, our comfortability as well for

regenerative therapies, for more providers, which results in more access to more patients. And that's what we really want in the space. We truly are seeing the difference that we're making with it. the more studies we have, the more data sharing collaborations in this space, the better it's going to be for the field. And I think do you guys do, what was it, the shock therapy? I think it was, electro-shockwave therapy. What is that?

I know what you mean, but we don't do that here because that's not really part of regenerative therapy. That's something that's useful. I've had patients that come to us that says, let's say they try that type of therapy. some, you know, some of them bought a machine for, you know, $15,000, $20,000, and it's just, you know, they tried it two, three times, and it's just standing in their home doing nothing, collecting dust. It has its place in therapy, but it's, it's very short-lived, and it helps, you have to do a lot, a lot of sessions in order for it to do anything. It works well with mild ED, but if you have, like, nerve damage, if you have some, you know, blood flow issues, it might help, but again, On a mild level.

If you have a blockage, again, in mild level, nerve damage, it doesn't help anything at all. We chose to do exosome therapy because it's a much broader type of therapy than anything else out there. You know, the only other thing you can compare this to would be like stem cell therapy, but stem cells are just, you know, to be honest with you, a lot more expensive and a little bit of a higher risk. Exosome therapy has a much lower risk of anything happening. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's kind of interesting.

So what haven't we talked about as we round up the show that we should probably, you know, let people know about? I just want to say, like, most guys, you know, they come to us for ED, they have never had a real conversation about this sexual wellness issue with anybody. Not even, I was shocked to hear that they don't even talk to their urologist. Some of them do, but most of them don't. They come in, worried or embarrassed, and no one's ever explained to them what's going on with their bodies of why it's happening, right? So again, we go back to education and the reason we educate them in plain language is for them to feel less broken and more in control. And when they feel that they kind of loosen up a little bit, they start taking, you know, they're ready to take action and they're ready to understand that there is hope for them rather than there's nothing I can do about it. I've had men that come to me for, you know, they've had ED for, you know, 15, 20 years and they're skeptical from the beginning.

but when we explain it to them, you know, they feel like, okay, you know, this something might, this is something that I'm interested in and it's something that might work for me. It's good that we have these resources now where men can, can utilize this and not have to deal with not having any way to help it. So that's very good. So guys, as we go out, give people your final thoughts, tell them how they can onboard with you, how they can reach out, how they can learn more and get involved with your program or at least find out more. I mean, we can be contacted either through our website, www.W.W.W.WVWWatelosklinic.com. You can call us at the office at 914-620-8577. We also have, you know, we're on Facebook, we're on Instagram. We have, we're on Google. We're, you know, ads all over. And, you know, you just, you don't even know, you don't, even if you think you don't qualify, give us a call. We'll, you know, we'll walk you through it. And, you know, we'll let you know if you qualify or not. Yeah. I mean, getting testosterone therapy is one of the greatest things I ever did in my life.

I didn't know I was suffering from really massive brain fog. It was really quite the awakening when I woke up, basically. It started three days after I, you know, when the system hit my, when I hit the testosterone, my system from the butt injection. But I started waking up from brain fog and it was really crazy. I was kind of living this life that I just felt whipped to death with where I would wake up the morning and I would feel like I was crawling into bed 10 minutes later. And I'd be like, where'd this day go? Chris, maybe you are whipped at night, but you just started. I mean, that's a whole

different thing. Talk to the mistress about that. But no, I literally just, I would sit there and go, what did I do today? And, you know, there's a record of kind of what I did. You got to answer emails. You got to talk to people on the podcast three times a day. And, you know, there's a record. but I wasn't getting anything more accomplished beyond the basics I was functioning and I kind of felt like I was just and I and it was funny was I started coming out of brain fog and I was like a week off I was living in a week a week I don't know how you call it week for brain fog like I remember the month the first Monday I started waking up from when I'd taken my injection on Friday and I did the first podcast and I was like how come him it's not Tuesday. I've been doing a bunch of stuff. Why is it not Tuesday right now? It's still Monday. And then I did the second podcast. And then by the third podcast, I was like, why is it not Wednesday right now? It should be Wednesday. I know that it's Wednesday, but it says Monday. Something's fucking wrong. And somewhere by the end of the second day, the third day,

or the, I think it was the second Tuesday, I started to get real clarity. And everything stopped. It went from Zoom to and suddenly I was present. And for several days, I was like, why is, like Tuesday, on Tuesday, I was like, why is it not next Monday? Why is it not Friday? I don't understand what's going on.

And that's how much brain fog I had been living in for the longest time. My life was just blasting by me and I had, I wasn't even present. I was just on machine mode. And so that, that's one of the things it did with the testosterone treatment was it it brought everything to present and now I operate in real time and I actually feel like it gets up done I actually feel like

I get the extra more than I want and you know it's just not all about chasing the woman around or whatever you're you know whatever you like is around you know the bedroom sometimes it's about just balancing life and it's helped me lose weight too I think but helping my system so Give us the dot coms one last time as we go out, gentlemen. www.w.W.W.W.W.W.Watelesscliniclinic.com. Awesome. And Aurora-dashhealth.com. Again, looking for a telemedicine company, a new medspa, former medspa that you're already running, whatever we can do to help from a medical directorship program. So you guys are looking for to kind of white label some of that?

Is that the correct word for the business of that, helping those people? What we do is provide, like, a medical directorship program. like Eugene, for example, those that actually want to make and care about the patient that actually want to bring that change and make that different. So we provide oversight nationwide. All right. Thank you very much, guys. Thanks, sir, audience for tuning in. Thank you guys for being here. We certainly appreciate it. And hopefully we've helped educate more men and everyone on what's going on. Chris, thank you very much. I appreciate you for having us. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks for audience for tuning as well. We couldn't do without you guys.

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