The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Facebook Relaunches News Attempt, Sony, AT&T, TikTok & Other Tech News Oct 25, 2019

Episode Date: October 25, 2019

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cats. Anyway, uh, let's get into tech news for the day. Tech news for the day. It's a Friday. Oh, my gosh, Chris, we made it to Friday again. Yeah, it's weird. We keep having that happen. So we're still here.

The planet has not imploded yet. Knock on wood. There we go. I don't know if you heard the knock, but anyway, it's, what is it, October 25th, holy crap, man, it's almost Christmas, they're already probably starting to play Christmas music at some of the stores, and let's move on to something that's more, uh, fun and interesting than massive amounts of debt, giving gifts to loved ones who hate you half the time. I feel like me most of the time.

I don't know. I love my family. They're good people. I'm not sure they love me and I can't blame them if they don't really. So there's that. It sounds like I'm having, what is this? Like a psychology session? Chris, how long you've been feeling this way?

Now I have a great family and they're wonderful. And I think they love me. Um, I'm just still not sure why I think that's the biggest problem. I'm confused. Why do they still love me in spite of myself? Uh, don't we all have that problem? I don't know. It's maybe just me. It's probably just me. Anyway, let's go tech news. What the hell's going on in the world today, Chris? This is what we tuned in for. We didn't tune in to hear about your psychological issues, man. We're not your psychiatrists. We don't get paid enough for this kind of crap. There you go.

Facebook. You may have heard of these guys. They've been around for a little while. Boy, man, they're just in the bucket for everything these days, man. They're just the whipping post for most successful thing to hate on or something. I don't know. So according to Facebook, and this is from Facebook,

Facebook begins testing Facebook News with a subset of people in the U.S. across four categories of select publishers, general, topical, diverse, and local news. They're testing out this new space. You've been hearing me talk about it for a while now on the podcast. So hopefully you've been listening and tuning in and hearing all our commentaries. We've gone across the development of this concept it's interesting uh to me uh and

and tech uh crunch has a great article on this we'll get into in a second um you know there was one point and i don't know if this is substantiated was rumors they were going to pay up to three million dollars to new news agencies to bring them news this is a nut that facebook has been trying to crack for like 10 years. And there's a lot of different failures that they've had, and news has been one of them. And partially because they're wallowing off their garden doing it, and they're trying to make money doing it,

and create scarcity by doing it in ordaining certain people to be news people and everything else. And they betrayed news agencies now for a good record time, over 10 years. TechCrunch, like I said, we'll get into their article on it. But, you know, we've seen it over the years. I've seen the failure of the Facebook phone. Remember that? I remember that failure uh we had a review unit from at&t at one point and uh that thing dive bombed uh i don't know like a diver into a waterless cement pool um and uh these people just were not going to get it uh youtube years ago um betrayed the news so many times and betrayed so many different promises and things that they implied

that they were going to try and hold the thing. Their word just became shit that by the time they decided they wanted to compete with YouTube and they went around trying to get YouTubers to come over, YouTubers were like, no, man, you guys have a bad reputation of bad trading where you're like, yeah, well, that's your free and we'll let you protect you. And then all of a sudden you charge the fuck out

of people. For years, I told my clients back in the day when everyone was like, you got to get a Facebook page and build it. That's where all the traffic is. And it's free. And I'm like, you guys got to understand it's not going to be free forever. And people are like, you're crazy, Chris. You're stupid. No, it's brilliant. It's going to be free. And I'm like, it's not gonna be free forever and people like you're crazy Chris. You're stupid. No, it's gonna. It's brilliant It's gonna be free and I'm like it's not gonna be free Once they fill that thing fucking up then they're gonna put in rules and then they're gonna start charging the fuck out of you And access your own frickin list. No Chris. You're crazy. Guess what they did I Called that one. That's what all of these major sites do.

I used to make a shit ton of money off of YouTube. Then they changed the rules. Why? Because people were making too much money. And they were like, nah, we don't need you guys anymore. We're huge now. So we need you at one time. We don't need you now.

So we're just not going to pay as much. And all the sites do that. In fact, Medium, if you followed the story, I think it was two or three days ago on the podcast, Medium's doing the same thing now to its curators. That's what every single one of these companies do. They use you until you get big and they screw you. It's just the way businesses operate, really. My father used to always join these multi-level marketing companies. He loved multi-level marketing companies. And he would join them and they would do the same thing. As soon as they got big, they would go, we need to make some changes to your commission scale. And he'd go from

making buku bucks to nothing. And they would do it every single time. In fact, he would work with life insurance companies and life insurance companies have this little trick that they do with their contracts, I guess. And what they would do is they would make it so they would buy each other out and sell each other all the time. And they would put in their contracts that if another company bought out their company, they wouldn't be obligated to continue paying out the residuals. Because my father would go sell life insurance because he's like, hey, if I sell this life insurance to people, I get a lifetime of residual income from them renewing the life insurance annuities and all that kind of crap. Well, no, he found out the hard way that there's like some provision in the contracts where

every time the company gets sold, bought out or does some sort of merger crap they can nullify those contracts but they do get to keep the business from the customers that they brought to them this is the way companies just do business and um you know that's the way it is so that's the reputation facebook got for itself and so youtubers just would not have any of it. They're just like, we're not stupid. We're sticking over here. You guys can't be trusted worth shit. And we've, of course, seen what Mark Zuckerberg has done with our trust and privacy and everything else in our profiles.

I'm not sure why the site still works. Maybe because everyone's family's on it. And, you know, there's a problem with google plus i mean you couldn't get people's families over there and all the grandmas and grandpas were just like i can't figure out how to sign up for a nurse service and so um you know and what's funny is a lot of people went to Instagram and then Facebook bought it. So they just own everything really at this point. So let's get to the TechCrunch article. We'll see if this is going to be a success or a failure.

They're launching this. According to Vox, the sources say Facebook is going to pay news partners up to $3 million a year for appearing in its news tab. Originally when they shopped this, they were trying to charge. They were going to close off Wall of their Garden and try and charge news agencies to be on their tabs. But I guess that didn't work for them, and everyone just went, no. There's a great article on TechCrunch. If you go over there, and it's an article from Josh Constein. Constein? Constein?

You can check it out, and it's an article from Josh Constein. Constein? Constein? You can check it out. And it's called Why the Facebook News Tab Shouldn't Be Trusted 10 Years of Abusing Publishers. And he really nailed what we've all been thinking, those of us who follow Facebook all these years, and all the stuff they've tried to do. Instant articles, deleted news feed, extra traffic, you know, all the different things they've tried to do over these 10 years. And he chronicalizes and goes through all the different complaints, all the different things that Facebook tried to do with instant articles, people and publishers just banning it, Facebook referrals and everything else. And basically the whole thing just seems to be a bait-and-switch program every single freaking time, a bait-and-switch program

to try and get news people to go in there, try and get traction for news so that they can sell it and make money. And then the traffic drops either because the algorithms or, you know, it's like a drug. It's like a drug, basically, that they're doing where they're like, hey, man, you want some free cocaine? Yeah, it's free. Here's some free cocaine for you. And then you come back.

You're like, hey, can I get some more of that free cocaine? They're like, hmm, oh, you like that cocaine? That cocaine we got you hooked on? Yeah, we're going to have to charge you for it now. That's basically what they do with Facebook pages. Oh, you like that cocaine? That cocaine we got you hooked on? Yeah, we're going to have to charge you for it now. That's basically what they do with Facebook pages. I constantly get these threats now from Facebook that say, you haven't used this Facebook page in a while.

We're going to disengage that and take it down. And you know what's funny is I've been getting those for like months now, like six months or some shit, naive months or something. They still haven't taken them down so and then you know we won't send traffic there anymore you're not sending traffic anymore in fact one thing i've been finding in some of the marketing i do and some of the consulting i do and stuff um trying to contact businesses that have really poor contact ability to them uh probably because I guess companies just don't like hearing from people anymore and I guess they have plenty of money they

their Facebook pages are pretty much dead there's still some people posting on it but there's no one monitoring the messaging and questions and stuff and it's got worse with these fucking piece of shit chat BOTS these chat BOTS have pretty much they've just put them on their Facebook pages so that they don't have to monitor them. They're just like, yeah, just talk to the chatbox, whatever. We don't give a fucking shit anymore. I don't know what happened to Tom Peters

in search of excellence. Remember when that whole thing came into play and people were like, we need to be better to the customer and customer is number one not not in today's world no i mean when you're seeing people getting dragged off fucking planes by their hair and shit and uh punched in the face you know and and all this sort of stuff man something's really freaking flipped so there's that uh let's move on to the next story let me know what you think of the Facebook news thing you can find me on Twitter under Chris Voss Facebook Chris Voss LinkedIn Chris Voss let

me know what you think I'm kind of curious and all that good stuff hey did you know I own a 135 thousand person group on LinkedIn it's under social media news and tech you should check it out it's pretty darn cool it's got a lot of tech stuff on it and there's a lot of people in there chitty-chatting about on the LinkedIn channels anyway let's move on to fast companies report that Google says it's now improving 10% of English searches in the U.S. by using NLP techniques to better understand query context and words relationship with each other. Really? Neuro-linguistic programming, NLP?

I think we all have a friend or someone. Usually I meet these people at conferences. They come up to me, hey, Chris, what do you do? Well, I do a lot of things. I have a podcast. I have a review website, a giant blog. The Chris Foss Show has been around for about 10 years. Make money consulting, advertising, marketing.

What do you do? I'm an NLP coach. What? Yeah, I help people achieve success with nlp and you're just like you live in your mom's basement and uh you're unemployed huh yeah pretty much that's it nlp nlp it's always i always find they're just kind of between jobs between gigs or they haven't found what they really want to do it's like it's like when i find someone who it's like I remember years ago I knew someone that we had to kick out of a home of real estate property oversaw and they and they were out of a job and and

pretty much homeless and have a job next thing we saw was they're posting on Facebook about how they're a life coach. We're just like, and if you knew this person's life from what we had to endure of it to remove them from the home and hear about this person had no business being a life coach. My dog has got more life coach knowledge than this person does. And I see that a lot. You see a lot of people that are broken and they're just out of work and they're just like, I'm going to be a life coach. Now, I'm not saying all life coaches are that way. Don't get me.

I don't want to hurt a bunch of feelings about life coaches. There are some really good people that are really great professionals who are doing a good job in this space. But there are some people like I've seen these videos of like people, I'm a relationship coach. And you're like, why? Why are you a relationship coach? I just got out of a broken relationship for two years and he treated me like shit. like people i'm a relationship coach and you're like why why are you a relationship coach i just

got out of broken relationship for two years and he treated me like shit and now i'm gonna advise women on how not to make the same mistakes i did i'm a relationship coach it's like honey i don't want a relationship coach for somebody who can't hold a relationship together and makes bad choices and partners i want a relationship coach who's been married for 30 fucking years that made that shit work. And the sex is still awesome two to three times a week for real. Not like lying that shit they put on surveys. Um, that's what I want to give me that sort of coach. That's the people I want to listen to. You know, I learned this a long time ago. I was getting some advice recently, if you don't mind the segue I got some

advice recently I've been building communities most of my life really when it comes down to it even in my business it's really building a community and in building a community you know there's a lot of work that goes into a lot of marketing out on advertising a lot of curation a lot of curating the environment of the community to make sure it's a healthy environment to make sure it's a it's an environment that can grow and there's a lot of work that goes into it and then i've been an entrepreneur and marketer all my life so there's a lot of ab testing so abc dd efg testing you're like okay we'll see if works, see if that works. And you try stuff to see if it works and what doesn't.

And so I've been fairly successful at building communities. Recently, over the last year or so, I've been building a lot of communities in the gaming field because we get a lot of gaming products on the Chris Voss Show, and we're viewing them. We've got the gaming podcast, chrisfossgaming.com, uh, that we do. And we have a lot of developers. So, you know, we've expanding our, our gaming to chat in that area. And so we've been expanding our gaming communities because those are the audience, you know, we want to curate and, uh, serve.

So, um, uh, recently I had someone come to me and go, Hey, you're doing this wrong. And I talked to these people and, and they're telling us you, you're doing it all wrong. You got to do this other way. And I said, well, who are these other people? And they're like, Oh, they're there. You know, they're really smart people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I said, no, really, who are these people? Let me see the community they built because if they're telling me that what I'm doing wrong, they probably built a more successful community. Okay, well, yeah, okay, let's go look at them. So I looked at them and their community is a tenth.

No, hold on, not a tenth. It's about a fourth or a third percent of my community that I built. And I'm like, and it's largely dormant. And I'm like, why it's largely dormant. And I'm like, why is someone who's not as successful as me telling me what to do? Here's what I do. I go find people who are more successful than me. I follow my friend. Um, I build relationships with them. I learned from them. Uh, and certainly there are people that, that may, may not be as successful me that maybe I can learn from. Maybe they have a random idea that's really good. But for the most part, usually they may not know as much as I do.

Now, there are times where I'm not as successful as I should be because I'm just fucking lazy. And that comes with the concept of knowing what to do and knowing how to do it and feeling like you do it very easy. And so you're just like, I'm just going to half-ass it, which I'm known to do. I have a lazy problem. It's just what it is. I talk about it more, but I don't know. I'm just lazy. I don't know, man. I just, I had one of those things. I did the same thing in school. Yeah. A lot of people are are who are really smart not me uh we go to school and it's fucking boring because we know we know a lot and then there's a lot of shit we know we don't need to

know which i knew in high school um and um yeah it's just fucking boring and stupid like i sat in algebra class going i will never use this shit in the rest of my fucking life. This is a waste of my fucking time. And the fact that I was a teenager and knew that, holy shit, I knew what my parents' lives were. I knew what kind of math they used. And I was like, unless I'm going to be an astronaut, which I'm not because I'm too dumb to be an astronaut and I really don't care. Uh, I don't need this math. So why are we having this whole sort of stupid shit that we're putting me through and making me feel, you know, shaming me that I'm a horrible, stupid kid. Cause I can't learn math production. It's just, you know, it's just like,

I don't know, just jump through the hoops. Anyway, let's get off this little segue that we've been on lesson for this though, as we wrap the segue is, um, if you're going to, if you're going to take advice from people, take advice from people that are more successful than what you're trying to do. Don't take advice from people who aren't successful. Um, you know, I remember, I remember some of my girlfriends would get advice from, from, from their girlfriends. And then they come to me and they go, Hey Chris, you know, I remember some of my girlfriends would get advice from their girlfriends. And then they come to me and they go, hey, Chris, you know, we need to do this. What the fuck?

And she's like, yeah, Susie says we need to do this. And I'm like, isn't Susie the one you always tell me? This is the one you always tell me is a fucking whore, can't keep a relationship down. She's banging every guy every weekend. Because when we go to clubs, see her with an every guy every weekend wait she's giving you relationship advice on what to do between us yeah don't don't do that don't do that find people are successful and copy their success find people that are successful don't take advice from

people that aren't more successful than you you can listen to them You can be like maybe there's a pile of good ideas and all that shit They're putting but you know what you don't emulate them or their life if they're not more successful, so Given that there's nothing wrong life coaches But just do your research find out they're really successful The biggest problem with the Internet is anyone can present themselves as hugely successful, and meanwhile, they're not. And then a lot of times, it's just because they've failed in other avenues of business, so they've decided to become a life coach.

I've got to be honest with you, I didn't get into social media and social media consulting and training and marketing until the uh what was it the 2008 2007 recession wiped out all my businesses wiped out everyone's businesses back then i mean the economy just came to a complete standstill um and just about everyone went bankrupt including didn't gm go bankrupt Um, I think Chrysler got bought out and then Ford had just gotten lucky. They had financed a, I think a bit, a $4 billion credit line or a billion dollar credit line just right before everything went to shit. And so they were able to ride that baby out. Uh, but yeah, it was a, it was a shit storm for everybody. And that's what,

you know, put me into consulting because I, you know, I got 20 years of my businesses wiped out. But, you know, I used, I use a lot of the marketing and a lot of the things I learned in the stuff I use nowadays. I mean, when I went into social media, marketing, consulting, to me, it was all sales. So I'd been a salesman all my life and I was just moving right back into sales. I wasn't some guy who, who some of the folks I've known in social media marketing was working at McDonald's before this and just went out and started selling in the sky crap. Anyway. Uh, yeah. NLP techniques. That's great. I'm there, you know, there's something to

that science, but you know, anytime I met somebody who's an NLP coach, you may want to dig deeper into their back of their life. I don't know. That, to me, is up there with MLM shit. Anyway, let's move on. Why are you so mean, Chris, to NLP stuff? I don't know. Maybe I need an lop coach at&t says hbo max will be available free to the 10 million at&t customers in the u.s who are also hbo subscribers when it launches in the spring

according to reuters um yeah we're reviewing actually right now the at&t pixel excel 4 it's actually called pixel 4 excel but uh I'm just testing you see if you're paying attention so this should be kind of interesting I guess if you're in the sphere AT&T of course owns a lot of different things and yeah I guess they got a deal there they if you remember they recently bought out DirecTV so you can get AT&T on your on your DirecTV or DirecTV on your AT&T. There you go. We love the AT&T folks. They've been really good to us over 10 years.

Always send us those things to review, and you should see the reviews on the Chris Voss Show or our YouTube channel, youtube.com forward slash Chris Voss. Search for all the latest phone reviews from those fine folks. Reviewed from some of the other services as well, but I got to tell you, AT&T just gets the phones first, and they always make sure we get them, and sometimes they get phones that no one else gets.

So I'm really happy the Google Pixel 4 is now, or the Pixels, let's just say it that way, are now available on AT&T and the other platforms. It was really kind of getting old that it was only at AT&T. Or, I'm sorry, Google. You can only get it from Google. Engadget has a Google Pixelbook Go review. They claim it's got an excellent keyboard, good performance and battery life with a solid and stable OS. Well, it's Google.

But it remains pricey and the trackpad could be smoother. So there's that. take that as it will and gadgets reporting that arm says it will keep supplying huawei with its chip designs after determining that arm v8-a and its next gen architecture are of a non-us origin so that's kind of interesting we'll see how that goes is arm a uh are they a us company i don't know i'll have to dig deeper into that uh what else do we have this is kind of interesting to me and one of my contentions that i have with playstation um one of the things i hate about playstation is i can't access other streaming services on PlayStation, like YouTube TV. You can't access one of some of the other players that are out there in the marketplace.

There's another one that I like. It starts with an S. But basically, there's a service called PlayStation View that competes with YouTube TV streaming competes with all sorts of, you know, Apple TV and all these different other streaming package cable services, if you will. And you can't get their service on a PlayStation. So you can't use your PlayStation as much as you would like to as a home entertainment device, which really upsets me because I like my PlayStation Pro. I like my games on PlayStation. But I also would like to use my media on PlayStation, and it makes it very anti-home theater for PlayStation. Now, PlayStation is all about gaming, but seriously, it's 2019, Sony.

Wake up. Well, other than they have. But the crappy thing is a lot of these different services can't get on PlayStation because PlayStation is trying is walled off their garden and they just want everyone to buy PlayStation view and they won't let competitors on there, but Netflix and, you know, Hulu and a few things that are kind of siloed.ed, but they won't let other streaming, like sort of cable-ish streaming companies on the console. So evidently, Sony has now hired bankers to explore the sale of its PlayStation View service

according to sources from the information news service, which would include the company's tech and subscriber list of around 500K. I'm hoping this will be great if they can sell this thing, because I'm really tired of not being able to access the fun other services I have. I love YouTube TV. I'm trying to think of the other service I've had. I'm sure Apple TV users will like to maybe use it on the thing. I mean, there is Apple TV on the Apple TV, but, you know, it's 2019.

You want to be able to consume your shit anywhere you freaking want. It's your life. It's your money you pay for it. You should have the freedom to subscribe to the service anywhere you want. Fire TV, all that sort of good stuff. You should be able to get it anywhere. That is the democratization of freedom of what you pay for. Tired of these silos of jerks who wallow off their garden, Facebook, and do all that thing.

So, yeah, that's funny, funny, funny. So, let's see. What else do we have in the news pile? What else is there? TikTok is fighting back against politicians. We talked about this, I believe, yesterday that are now questioning its Chinese overlord ownership. And they're wondering about the content,

wondering about the monitor of kids, and all this stuff going back to the Chinese government. They have shot back through BuzzFeed News report. TikTok says its content moderation policies are led by a U.S.-based team, and it will not remove content, including posts about Hong Kong, at the behest of china

kind of an interesting argument that's going on yesterday um we reported this uh on the podcast senate minority leader chuck sumer and senator tom cotton to ask us intelligent officials determine whether tiktok poses national security risks um so uh tiktok's under fire again if you know we talked i think it was about six months ago or something. They paid like a hundred, a hundred million dollar plus fine, uh, because they were signing up kids that were under the age of 13. If you don't know it, there's a law says social media companies, you know, can't take kids under 13.

No, the kids cheat, lie, steal. And that's what kids do because they're trying to figure it all out and you know they're trying to circumvent their parents sometimes but uh they were just letting too many kids on the platform not following the rules and they paid a huge fine for it and i believe that's when this u.s um this u.s thing got set up this u.s oversight thing got set up with a bunch of moderators so um kind of interesting tiktok's under getting some shots they're the hottest game on the market right now they're doing really hot with uh all the kids like it it's where all the kids are man i find that i find the

platform completely annoying but probably because i'm old i don't know i just find it old and mindless and people singing and doing stupid stuff and eating Tide Pods, basically. That sort of thing. You know, it made YouTube popular. I've been posting on it. So if you're on TikTok, go and follow me. I recently joined Triller, which is supposed to be a U.S. competitor of theirs. And they just got a big funding round.

But I've been putting up just, like, my dogs my huskies people love those that husky stuff so i've just been posting videos of huskies and i don't know if you like that sort of thing we've been doing slow-mo videos of the huskies um and posting it which is really cool so fun is fun there you go and hey guys that's the news according to me I'm gonna go delve into some product on see if we can find another podcast episode for you folks to engage in let me know what you think do you think Facebook can be trusted really like to hear your comments go to twitter.com for such Chris Voss go to Facebook Chris Voss. Go to Facebook, Chris Voss. Go to LinkedIn, Chris Voss again.

It's like he owns everything, but Chris Voss dot com. He doesn't own Chris Voss dot com. Yeah, they beat me to it like 20 freaking years ago, and I can never get that thing. Anyway, but I do own Chris Voss dot net.

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