The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Generous Influencers: You Hold the Key to Creating a Positive Impact by Robert Kaelin

Episode Date: November 11, 2023

Generous Influencers: You Hold the Key to Creating a Positive Impact by Robert Kaelin https://amzn.to/49JZFtB Robertjkaelin.com We all desire to leave a legacy. We all desire to create impact. Often, we struggle with where to start. Look no further. Generous Influencers is a collection of practical tools, inspiring stories, and expert advice to help you understand influence, your unique purpose, and how you use these to create positive impact in your community and beyond. You will be moved to action through an invitation to an abundant, prosperous life. Despite the tendency for people to achieve success at the expense of others, Robert calls all into the endless possibilities unlocked when we operate in service of others. Whether you are looking for a feel-good read or some inspiration to put your values into action, there is something inspiring here for everyone. Show Notes About The Guest(s): Robert Kaelin is an author, speaker, trainer, and coach. He graduated with a degree in leadership from Faith International University and is the founder of Counterculture Leadership, which helps equip leaders to reach their full potential. He is also the founder of Generous Influencers, a non-profit organization that aims to influence communities with generosity through community events and building local partnerships. Summary: Robert Kaelin joins Chris Voss on The Chris Voss Show to discuss his upcoming book, "Generous Influencers: You Hold the Key to Creating a Positive Impact." In the interview, Robert emphasizes the importance of generosity in leadership and how it can create a positive impact on others. He shares personal stories and experiences that shaped his perspective on generosity and offers practical advice on how to add value to others. Robert also talks about the importance of gratitude and reflection in becoming a generous influencer. Key Takeaways: Generosity is a key component of effective leadership and can create a positive impact on others. Adding value to others is the essence of generosity, and it can be done in various ways. Wholeness is essential in becoming a generous influencer, and it involves spiritual, physical, mental, and relational aspects. Time is a valuable resource, and being intentional with it can lead to making a positive impact on others. Reflecting on one's life and being grateful can help cultivate a generous mindset. Quotes: "Generosity is the key component of any good leader." "Adding value to another person is the essence of generosity." "Change leaders change lives, and transformation happens within." "The world is full of generous people, and if you can't find one, be one." "Generosity is about pouring from a cup that's already full."

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I almost feel like that title goes with Smokey the Bear. Only you can stop forest fires. Wow, the onus of positive impact is now upon me. I feel guilty already. Robert is an author, speaker, trainer, and coach after graduating with a degree in leadership from Faith International University. He is a visionary leader launching counterculture leadership, which helps equip leaders to reach their full potential, which is good because I'm always at half, so they can change the world with positive impact. This is why I do the show, so I can learn so many things. He is also the founder of Generous Influencers, a non-profit that is on a mission to influence communities with generosity through community events and building local partnerships.

He lives in the Pacific Northwest with his wife, Jackie. They have three children and love spending their time adventuring and soaking up and in the world around them. Welcome to the show, Robert. How are you? Hey, buddy. Thank you so much. It's an honor to be here and talking with you. It's an honor to have you as well, sir. Give us your dot coms. Where can people find you on the interwebs? Yeah, people can find me at robertjkaylin.com's k-a-e-l-i-n robert j kalin.com uh they could also find me at robert j kalin on social media there you go and so give us the overview of the book and what's inside absolutely so. So when I wrote this book, I actually,

my editor told me, hey, write this to one person. Don't write it to a massive audience. Write it to one person. And I was like, okay, well. What did you have against the rest of the audience? It's nothing about you guys. The fact is that I really needed to write this to my younger self. And, you know, I don't know if you guys have struggled with this with the advent of social media and, you know, trying to get a message out there, but you don't need a YouTube channel to be an influencer. And I know that that sounds kind of counterintuitive. But the reality is that, you know, we influence people around us every single day in the little things, right? Walking down the street, smile to somebody.

I mean, it's the little moments in life that make life worth living. And this whole book has written my journey and my perspective on how that can be created and fostered into a culture of generosity. There you go. A culture of generosity. Why do we need to be generous? Can't we just always take things and be Machiavellian? I mean, you could. I don't even know what Machiavellian means.

Oh, yeah. I'm going to have to go look that up in the thesaurus. I'm getting smarter. The prince from Machiavellianism. I don't know if you read it. I mean, it's a great book in my mind, but I'm a narcissist, so that works out for me. But why is it important to be generous?

You know what? Generosity is really the key component of any good leader. Just think about the people that have impacted you in some way. They have been generous with their time, with their talent, with their treasure, with their impact, their touch on your life, their personal touch, only they could do, right? And I really believe that generosity is that key component that every good leader really possesses to make an impact that only they can make. And when I think about generosity, I think it really is just adding value to another person. Right? And growing up, I struggled with what is that? I heard that term, like add value.

And I was like, what does that mean? I don't even know what that means. What does it mean to add value? Well, the reason it's kind of an obscure term is because it's different for everybody. The adding value. So in the title of your book, you call them generous influencers. Give us some examples of what the difference would be between Machiavellian type influencers like me and generous influencers. I'm not Machiavellian. Just calm down. So give us some examples of what a generous influencer looks like.

Is this those Kardashian kids that are on the news? Do those guys qualify or what? I mean, maybe. I don't know them personally. So I'm not going to knock them. But I will say I had a boss at Microsoft when I was there. Before the show got started, Chris, you and I were talking a little bit about my backstory. I worked at Microsoft on the Xbox team, and I had a boss that changed my life forever.

In fact, while I was there, I had a situation in my life where my daughter ended up in the hospital. And I wasn't able to go into work. And for a month, we stayed in the hospital. And I felt really guilty about not going in because I was torn. Like, I need to be at the hospital, obviously, but there's stuff that is my responsibility that's just adding up on him. And every time I would call and check in, he'd say, look, don't worry about all of this. Don't worry about the stuff at work. It'll be here when you get back. You don't have to worry about your job. You need to take care of your family." And my daughter ultimately passed away. I'm sorry. But the big piece of this that I want to share is that he stood in the gap for me.

Wow. He took all of the things that I was supposed to do, and he said, okay, well, he's not here right now. Who can take which piece? Which piece am I going to take? Let's support him. And then when I got back, just jumped right back into it, and I didn't have to worry about having a job. I mean, it made a huge impact on me personally,

because he valued me as a person, not as a, as a number, right, as a valued member of the team. Awesome. Well, that's a beautiful thing that he stepped in and, and did that. And so, and so someone who's not a generous influencer, what are they just someone who's just selfish or something? And they're just like, hey, just make payments to my only fans and leave me alone. Exactly. No, I think the difference is you're just an influencer, right? Okay. Right?

So every person on the world influences somebody. Yeah. Whether it's a friend, whether it's a family member, a child, a coworker, whatever. We all have influence. And that's the leadership that we carry. Definitely. Definitely. This is something i

talked about in my book beacons of leadership um everyone can be a leader it's so funny i meet people and they don't think that in your case they don't feel like they have influence sometimes because they're like i'm just a parent i'm just uh some middle manager job or you know i'm just some guy walking around you know on the street but there are moments where all of us can be leaders, uh, and people look to us to be leaders. Um, in, you know, you can be walking around the street, some sort of emergency can happen, some sort of tragedy and, you know, people become leaders overnight. Sometimes, you know, they, they rise to the call of the need. And, uh, um, and, and maybe what's important about your book, uh, me, is that people think of themselves as people that are being influential in that manner, where they're generous. Because, you know, we live in this world of Instagram where it's all kind of me.

It's very narcissistic, which is kind of what Machiavellianism is a little bit. Although it is a great way to run a government and and and country and people but you know some people do it for their own you know attention and validation which is what I do because I'm a narcissist but some people do it to help other people and share the journey and share stories you know we talked about that on the show where stories are great owners manuals of life it's like the that's my quote people um and we learn from each other's sharing the stories you know one of the things that uh i've talked about the show a million times i know uh i i my dog passed away in a seizure one

night within a half an hour and and we went from like you know everything was fine to everything was not fine and it was a shocking loss and i i wrote a big bleeding heart uh vodka laden um just expose of my feelings about it on um on facebook and i sat for a half an hour saying this is this is too much this is all about me this is just this is not influential whatever uh and finally i i pressed the button and sent it and what i didn't realize was how many people would help and uh and so many people wrote with me after talked to me after you know people remember this day uh eight years later um and they're like you know hey i seeing you go through your cathartic process there uh i realized i didn't get closure with my father's death or my pet's death

or i didn't i didn't deal with this yeah and there ended up being you know kind of what you call it maybe a generosity there yeah 100 i think sharing our story is important. I think in the beginning of my book, I talk about this concept of wholeness. And, you know, if we don't work through the mess of life, it's really hard for us to get outside of ourselves, right? To be able to see like, how did I process this? What could somebody else be going through at this moment in their life? How can I show up with generosity? I think sharing our story is one of the biggest things that we can do. Definitely.

Showing up with generosity. And would you say that generosity has in one of its core elements gratitude? 100%. There you go. Absolutely. Yeah. Because if you're thankful, you want to give back and you want to share more maybe. I don't know. So I think you're right. I think wholeness really comes in four parts

it's spiritual it's physical it's mental and it's relational okay and the mental part of that is the gratitude piece of like uh you know if i haven't if i adopt an attitude of gratitude and talk what I'm thankful for, my heart becomes a recipient of that rather than harboring unforgiveness or bitterness, right? The bitterness is so much fun. It can be. In the end, though, it's the long game approach, right? That's probably true, yeah. Damn it. approach right that's probably true yeah damn it uh so and and maybe that's what we need to identify ourselves at or think of ourselves as is is the real key is to be generous influencers

uh and people that give but let me ask you this is there a point that you can give too much because i certainly have been i get has daily to give far too much than I'm able to give. And, and everybody wants everything for free. Yet somehow when you ask them for things, they want money. Um, so how, how do you balance that to where you're not wearing your heart on your sleeve and you know, everyone's soaking you dry? That's such a good question. I think the reality is that, um, a lot of us want to give. And the experience that I had growing up was that my mom, as a single mom, gave and gave and gave and gave and gave. And she didn't require us to give, right? She just like poured herself into us.

And she would get into these moments of, I just got to, like, I can't do anything. I need to sit down. I need to take a break. I'm just to, like, I can't do anything. I need to sit down. I need to take a break. I'm just done. Right. And what this, this caused me to realize is when we give and give and give and don't pour from a cup that's already full, we end up burning out. This is called a burnout cycle, right? Because it's, it's on repeat.

It just happens over and over and over again. It happens to jobs, happens to parenting, moms. You know, we've talked about this before. We've had a lot of great guests on the show that coach moms, coach people that are, oh, what do you call them, that are caretakers. Yeah. Or, you know, people that are struggling. You know, moms always eat last is kind of the thing moms always say. And, you know, and moms always cooking and taking care of the family.

But you've got to take some time out for yourself. You can't give yourself to others unless you give back. And so you're right. There has to be that modicum where you go, hey, man, I need some time out for me. I mean, it's like what they say when you ride in an airplane, right? You've got to put the oxygen mask on yourself first. You can't put it on someone else. And steal the ones from the other people. Wait, what? You've got to put the oxygen mask on yourself first. You can't put it on someone else. And steal the ones from the other people.

Wait, what? You can take two. You can take two? Yeah, no. As long as the guy next to you doesn't need it, you can just look at him and be like, your family doesn't like you. I can tell. And then just do that. This is why I'm not allowed to fly anymore.

Right. You're on a list somewhere. I'm on a list somewhere. And if you weren't, you are now. Thank God I'm not. That fly anymore. Right. You're on a list somewhere. I'm on a list somewhere. And if you weren't, you are now. Thank God I'm not. That would suck. I always watch those people on TikTok or whatever. YouTube, you see them flipping out on the thing. And you're like, yeah, you're going to be driving everywhere from L.A. to New York anytime you want to go anyplace. So enjoy that ride, baby.

I know. Good luck swimming between here and Europe when you want to go traveling. Right. You have to tell your girlfriend or your wife. She's like, hey, I want to go to Europe, honey. You're like, well, we're going to take the boat, honey. Or swim. Because there was this time I drank too much on a...

There you go. But all the more reason to read your book. Maybe they should read your books that doesn't happen to them so they can learn uh generous uh influencing as opposed to uh just being uh uh that man over there is not real whatever i don't know you remember that name um so uh tell us some other aspects we haven't touched on that are in your book. Yeah. So one of the things that's in my book that I really love, I had a quote in there from Les Brown. And Les Brown says that every day there's 1,440 minutes. That means we have 1,400 or 440 opportunities to make a positive impact.

Wow. And I think when we, when we view time in a way like that, where we can be intentional with it, that our world kind of changes. Yeah. You know, instead of like the unintended consequence of being unintentional is that time slips by. You know, think about it. Yeah, that makes sense. But on one of the first episodes of my podcast, we did a thing that was really fun. We said, hey, why don't we get out our phones? Let's talk. Let's find one person, the person on our phone,

that we can just say, hey, just wanted to let you know that I'm thinking about you and that you matter. Right? I would encourage guests, don't do it while you're listening to the show. As soon as it's over. Right? Get on your phone and call somebody and just say, hey, I was thinking about you. You were on my mind.

I just want to let you know that you matter. Imagine getting that call. Yeah. Just make sure you don't have a restraining order against any of those people. That's all I'm saying. Because you would violate it. That is true. That's true.

So call some people that do want to like to hear from you. Let's put it that way, whatever that means. In the context of your life. There you go. Yes, exactly. And so trying to touch people, make a difference. And then you talked in your bio about how you have, I think, a nonprofit that you try and use this for to do action items or help people do action items. Tell us about that.

So this is super fun. So what we did in the midst of COVID in the Pacific Northwest here, things shut down really bad. And it was really hard for small businesses. I'm a small business owner, and all of my friends that are small business owners lost opportunities to be able to do business when they didn't have a brick-and-mortar store or even some that did. And so what we did was we said, hey, why don't we start an outdoor market where people can come? And at this time, we didn't any like night markets or anything like that in my city and so we popped up a couple of spaces right outside of my brick and mortar store so that they could have a safe place to do business and you know in my view small business is the

backbone of a community because when small businesses thrive families thrive and communities thrive and we wanted to be able to support that. So the night market does just that. And then we also have, we're only a couple years old. So we've got future plans of how do we add value, even more value to those night market vendors to be able to help them build their businesses stronger and better and with some training and things like that. So it's coming real quick. There you go. I mean, that's, it was a, that was a, that was an interesting time when COVID happened. And, you know, my audience has heard this so many times on the show, but we, we, with the Chris Foss show, we, you know, we do a lot of events and stuff like that, touring about and CS shows and trade shows and stuff at the time. And we talked a lot about CS show or technology, Silicon Valley stuff a lot for the first 10 years.

And I remember a friend of mine said when we saw all of our events cancel, close, you know, just hundreds of thousands of dollars just evaporate. And everyone else, you know, was going through the same thing. But we were really depressed. I was really depressed. I was depressed. And a friend of mine, he says, here's what you do right now. There's two things. You either be a lifter or you find a lifter.

Yeah. That's what you do. So go find a lifter. If you're depressed, if you're struggling, if you're having a hard time with what we're going through right now, or be a lifter yeah that's what you do so go find a lifter if you're depressed if you're struggling if you're having a hard time with what we're going through right now or be a lifter it's your around trying to be a lifter who is that person I believe was my buddy Robert Scoble and I think he got it from someone else okay Robert is a great friend he is a good friend he's a good friend a lot of people listen to me as a huge audience and talks about AI and he

he's a he's a good man he's been one of people listen to me. He has a huge audience and talks about AI. He's a good man. He's been one of my best friends for years. But he put that on on Facebook, and it struck me. And so I sat down, and I took a look at, okay, what are my assets? I'm not a good follower. I'm a leader. But it was kind of hard to find leadership at that point in time. And so I just focused.

I said, what are my assets what do i have still what has it been taken from me i still have my great podcast that we built for 10 years well i'm tired of talking about shit that doesn't really matter in the scope of things because covid kind of made you realize that you know some things you know who cares about the latest iphone really when it comes down to it when when your loved ones can be taken away from you in a moment by a disease and hospitals are being overwhelmed. It kind of puts some perspective on the show. And I was kind of done talking about it for 10 years. And so I said, you know what we're going to do?

We're going to open up the show. We're going to talk about everything that can improve people's lives. Everything and anything that I like listening to. And I want to have the we're going to do? We're going to open up the show. We're going to talk about everything that can improve people's lives. Everything and anything that I like listening to. And I want to have the conversations I want to do. And I want to have newsmakers on. I want to have journalists. And I want to have brilliant minds on the show. I want to talk about things that are going to improve people's

lives and lift them up. And I'm going to be a lifter. And so that's what we did. And it changed the dynamics of the show. It made me fall in love with the show all over again. I don't think there's anything I've ever done that I love more than anything. And that's what we did and it changed the dynamics of the show uh made me fall in love with the show all over again um i don't think there's anything i've ever done that i love more than anything and that's what we love about the show it helps so many people yeah so that's so awesome and you know it reminds me of a quote that i got which is um the world is full of generous people and if you can't find one be one ah i love it wow love it. Wow. Put that on a cup.

Put that on a t-shirt, man. It's on that cup right there. Oh, there you go. There you go. I love that, man. Now, that's a branded cup for people who are listening? It is, yeah. It's got the smiley face and everything there?

See if I can grab it. So those of you, most people are going to consume this in audio format. So you've got the cup that says it right there on it could people order that is that a merch yeah uh people can order this um go to my website i'll make it available there you go i love it you should do it i love the merch you'll you'll sell the crap out of that on tiktok or yeah tiktok where everyone does it uh manuel has given has given us the audience clap there. He loves the idea. So there you go. So what are some other aspects we haven't touched on on your book that we want to tease out? Other things you learned from people that can help them be better influencers? Yeah. So you kind of touched on this a little bit with, you said, I'm not a follower, I'm a leader. And I think what happens to us a lot of times when we start leading is we forget

that we actually are good followers, right? I think because if you want to be a leader, you have to first know how to follow. It's like there's a linear path there. And the same path is true for adding value, okay? which is simply put is you can't add value to somebody else unless you value yourself what's what's funny i i was i was i go over your website i'm forming questions and oh gotcha producing shows we go uh and i didn't run around to that thought if you want to if you want to get to that i'll tell you what was funny here a second if you want to finish that thought that was the thought we may have Interrupted it. Yeah, there was there was something on your website. I thought was funny called no gurus allowed

Yes, so tell us what that means no gurus man. I'm so sick of gurus I'm so sick of people looking at like you know oh this person is like you know um the expert and all of this i just i'm done yeah we need to get that a lot we used to get that a lot back in the when twitter started that's kind of when the guru movement seemed to have started where people like i'm the guru yeah i used to hate the hell out of it and we it did kind of burn out you know I can see and so that's why when I saw that laugh but I still be I'm like I'm a consultant people and I know this I don't have a rug where I'm sitting doing mmm you know sitting with my legs cry I came that way and you know it but

everyone was really into that I'm an influencer guru totally and it kind of became the the play word for you're full of shit yeah absolutely how many people i mean it's almost like the the business model of how big can i get how much money can i take and how much little value can i do for it yeah you know it's like the other thing is too is it really implies a um a um a kool-aid sort of who is that who is that band of uh crazy people with the religious thing in the in the africa in the 70s uh jamestown the jamestown thing yeah it kind of kind of implies that whole thing when you're like, I'm a guru. What are we joining, a cult over here?

What's going on? Exactly. I don't want to. Don't join cults, people. They're bad. You can join the Chris Voss cult, but it's an open cult. We don't have Kool-Aid. It's the community.

You can drink what you want. We have lots of guests that you can drink whatever they're serving, and it's all good. But make sure you pay your tithing. All we ask is for a firstborn and maybe a goat once in a while sacrifice, but just like the ugly goat, not the cute goats. I don't know what that means right now.

People are getting really angry at me to like goats. Goats are fine with me. So anyway, but no, I love that uh that your thing on your website so when i saw that you have a some other comments here that i think are important yeah we all desire to leave a legacy we all desire to create positive impact often we struggle with where to start we struggle with who to listen to look no further there are no gurus here there you go now it says join the community that's making a positive impact in your world on your website uh have you built a community

for people that want to be generous we have yeah and it's small and it's um you know like you had said the podcast or in the podcast earlier that my book launches on the 28th and so we're doing some anticipating and building of that and finishing up, uh, prior to the launch. So, yeah, there you go.

Uh, and so you're going to launch on November 28th and, uh, I think it's good to have a group of stuff. Um, there was somebody who was on the show, uh, a couple months back and I had a really great,

uh, interview with them. Uh, they were really inspiring and they had something called, uh, what was it? It was a generosity. It's where you, it's where you call it. It's where you, it's accountability group. She had a generosity accountability group and they would text each other every morning about what they were generous about. And I thought about starting one of those. And I think we talked about doing one for her. And I need to get back to that.

On my calendar, there is a Gratitude for Gratefulness Archives Day. And Archives Day. So it's a day of gratitude for Sunday for me where I kind of focus on being grateful. And in fact, I spell gratefulness G-R-E-A-T. Yes. So it's gratitude for gratefulness. And Archives Day. uh, doing backups on all, you know, the computers and, you know, like the podcast archives and, but also like archives of my life, my dogs, my, who are my children and, and, uh, stuff like this. And so, and, and sometimes as I'm going through those, I, I go through and watch old videos of

my dogs from 10, 15 years ago. Uh, some that aren't with me. Uh, I see, you know, different people in my life, namely myself, cause I'm that way. Um, and I'm like, Hey, that guy was really good looking. What happened to him? Um, and, uh, he got a beard. Um, and so that's kind of my day where I spend a little bit more time going through my life and kind of analyzing it and putting stuff away and kind of appreciating some of the past. And, and I usually go out to dinner on that day and kind of have a some of the past. And I usually go out to dinner on that day and kind of have a calm before the storm sort of dinner, a peaceful sort of, you know,

it's kind of a thoughtful day for me, basically. That's beautiful. Yeah. I love the idea of taking time to reflect. I think it's a lost art. You know, I think too many of us are, you know, in bed with our cell phones, scrolling TikTok and YouTube and all of that before we go to sleep. And we're not taking the time daily to just reflect.

And even weekly. Right? Yeah. So I love that. It's good practice. It's good practice. And so I think having a group like yours where you can have kind of an accountability group, people remind each hey man be grateful you know i was writing some complaint post i was complaining and bitching moaning about something today on the show and and uh not on the show but uh on on the facebook

and i was like you know i don't really care and i'm not just gonna post this i'm just i just sound like i'm just complaining about stuff i don't sound very grateful which is what i didn't think at the time but now i kind of think you know maybe i should appreciate stuff i remember when i turned i don't know it's like 50 or 52 or something i think it was 50 i wrote this big complaint post on facebook and you know i write a lot of snarky stuff so usually there's a bit of tongue-in-cheek and and it's you know it sounds like i'm complaining but it's it's more like a stand-up bit uh and uh so i wrote this thing and i was like oh god i've turned 50 and woe is me and and somebody wrote me and they go hey man um you may want to check your you want to check yourself at the door there buddy they go there's a lot of people that would like to have gotten to 50 that didn't make it yeah So maybe you should just sit down and check your flow there, buddy.

And it really hit me like a ton of bricks. I was like, huh, yeah, he's got a point, man. I mean, dude, that right there, that's like the book. The guy that just had it in his conscious enough to say hey i'm gonna help him kind of change his perspective here a little bit because there is something to that that we need each other you know and uh sometimes we can get in that woe is me uh mentality and all of us can do it and to have somebody who's who's able to just speak the truth and say, hey, look, there are people out there who wish they could have made it to 50. Everyone who died today, yesterday, they had plans of waking up.

That's true. Good point. They had plans, man. And their family had plans, and people who loved them had plans. Their employers had plans. Like, why isn't Bob here today? So there you go. Final thoughts and pitch out as we go out on the book to get everyone to order it up. Give us to do the hard work in here. It's not out there. You're not going to find it. You're not going to arrive at it. Just change leaders, change lives. I truly

believe that. And I think that I'm a little leadership sad, which is one of the things that had me write the book. Just looking around and wishing that we had people like your friend, Robert, who could be generous influencers in our lives and impact the people that are close to us to help us become better, reach our fullest potential. Most definitely. We need more people in life that stand up and say, hey man, enjoy your life, support what's going on, all that good stuff,, it can make all the difference in the world.

Um, you know, when you touch people's lives, when you brighten their lives, when you give them hope, when you give them, um, you know,

inspiration, sometimes we need that little kick. You know, at first when I saw that, when my friend posted that, I was like, you know, he's like,

Hey man, a lot of people didn't make it to 50. I was like, well, you're freaking rude. And I got thinking about it and I'm like, geez, wow.

Okay. Yeah. I need to sit down and shut up and, and, uh, maybe, maybe be grateful about what I have. And, and it's so important and having the generosity to, uh, try and influence people and think about, you know, uh, paying it forward, passing the buck forward sort of thing, um, is a better way to influence people than, you know, being like, Hey,

did you hear about the horrible things that happened today? All that good stuff. And that's what the Chris Foss show does, by the way, we're generous influencers. You are. We try to, we do this all.

So there you go. And it's a labor of love. Let me tell you. So thank you very much, Robert, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. We got your.coms in there, right?

We did. Yeah. It's been a pleasure, my friend. I appreciate you having me on the Robert, for coming to the show. We really appreciate it. We got your.coms in there, right? We did, yeah. It's been a pleasure, my friend. I appreciate you having me on the show, and looking forward to the next one. There you go. Order the book, folks. Remember, fine books are sold. Stay away from those alleyway bookstores because there's not very generous people in there. In fact, you might get robbed or mugged.

Generous influencers, you hold the key. Only you can hold the key. Only you. Let me recut this one. Generous influencers, you hold the key to creating a positive impact. And when you really think about it, you really do. Because if you don't do it, you know, not a lot of other people are too. So set an example for people. And probably set an example if you're a parent for your kids your uh employees

the people you lead etc etc uh thanks so much for tuning in go to goodreads.com fortress chris fos linkedin.com fortress chris fos youtube.com fortress chris fos chris fos one on the tickety talkety and of course uh the new thing uh what is it chris fos facebook.com thanks for tuning in be good to each other stay safe and we'll see you guys next time