The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Healing Through Soul Intelligence® by Kristine Genovese
Episode Date: December 23, 2025Healing Through Soul Intelligence® by Kristine Genovese Soulintelligencemethod.com https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DQD628KS In Healing Through Soul Intelligence®, Kristine Genovese reveals a revolu...tionary approach to healing that taps into the deepest levels of our being. Drawing on her experience in corporate America and spiritual growth, Genovese introduces readers to the SOUL INTELLIGENCE® Method —a bioenergetic system that bridges science and spirituality to address the root causes of physical, emotional, and energetic imbalances. Genovese explores the power of emotions, the mind-body connection, and the hidden forces that shape our lives through a combination of quantum physics, bioenergetics, and practical exercises. Readers will discover how to access and align with their own SOUL INTELLIGENCE®, a higher state of awareness that illuminates their purpose and activates profound healing. Whether you’re a healthcare practitioner looking to enhance your practice, a leader seeking alignment in life and work, or someone on a personal healing journey, this book provides tools, techniques, and insights that transform and empower. With chapters on consciousness, energetic clearing, and the future of healing, Healing Through Soul Intelligence® is more than a guide —it’s an invitation to evolve and thrive.
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Today, we're an amazing young lady on the show.
We're talking to Christine Genevise.
She is the author of the book that came out, October 24th, 2024 called Healing Through Soul Intelligence.
We're going to get into some of the deets with her and her experience and some of the things that she's learned over life to make her life better and how you can too.
Christine, for over 25 years, has specialized in corporate growth and turnaround uncovering the hidden patterns, negative energy, and dysfunction blocking success.
She streamlined people, processes, and technology to create optimal outcomes.
And she's taken that same passion for transformation and channeled it into a revolutionary and inspired mission, empowering healthcare professionals and healers to reclaim their well-being and revolutionaries, how they heal through soul intelligence method that she developed.
Welcome to the show. Christine, how are you?
I am doing great today, Chris.
Thank you so much for having me.
Thanks for coming.
We're excited to have you and get into the details and all that good stuff.
So give us any dot-coms, any social media.
Where do you want people to find you on the interwebs?
They can find me at my website, which is Sol, S-O-U-L-intelligence method.com.
They can certainly hit me up on any social media at Christine Genovace or Christine M. Genovese, depending on Facebook or IG.
I have YouTube. I also have TikTok, so pretty much using my name.
There you go. And so, Christine, give us a 30,000 overview of what's inside your book, Healing Through Soul Intelligence.
Sure. Well, it talks a little bit about me. It talks a little bit about my method. And it talks about how, you know, a number of different healing stories that are in there, how I heal the healers. I actually work in the field of functional medicine.
once we figure out what's going wrong in the body,
we're able to help move that underlying emotional cause underneath the healing.
So essentially, energy is supposed to be in motion, okay, emotion.
When energy is no longer in motion, that's when it pulls in the body
and it causes dis-ease or dissonance in your frequency or dysfunction in the body.
And so my method helps pull that energy out.
and then I partner with functional medicine doctors to help fix the body and give it what it needs to heal once we've gotten the dysfunction out.
So the book has all kinds of information about the doctors I work with, their stories, their patients that I've worked with, and really talks about the method itself.
There you go.
And I love the, I think you have this trademark, the sole intelligence.
Yes.
It's a trademark of yours, registered trademark.
And so how did you develop this technology?
What were some of the paths he went through in life that got you down these roads and got you writing books, helping other people, et cetera, et cetera.
Oh, my gosh.
Okay.
So how did I, how did this all happen?
Yeah.
Well, as the bio suggested, I was a corporate turnaround specialist for most of my career, right?
So figuring out what people, processes, or technologies need to shift in order for the business to hit their revenue.
new objectives, whatever that was.
And in March of 2020, I was on my last corporate turnaround, which, you know, I thought
it was going to be my last for a way different reason.
But March 12th of 2020, I got a phone call.
I was in an oncologist office with my now-wasband, learning that he was going to have to
have a biopsy done there and had prostate cancer.
Oh, no.
And I got a phone call from the head of HR letting me know that my service is.
were no longer needed.
So that was pretty shocking because I had just received a performance bonus.
We were in year one of a plan three-year turnaround.
Things were going great.
And I was in complete shock because I had never been fired in my entire career
because I always met her repeated expectations.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you remember March 12th of 2020 as the start of COVID, right?
Oh, the start of COVID, yeah, when everything went there.
Okay.
Yeah.
So I texted my boss at the time, the CEO, and I said,
I just got fired.
He goes, me too.
I'm like, WTF.
Okay.
So we pick up the phone.
We talk.
And essentially what happened was we had prepared a board deck because this was a Thursday.
We're supposed to go in and have the board meeting on Monday.
Board deck, my boss and I had showed that had we been allowed to hire the number of people we wanted to hire in the fourth quarter,
not only would we have met the Q1 objective, we would have exceeded it.
Oh, wow.
What the CEO did was took us both out.
walked into the boardroom by himself and said,
we didn't hire enough people in the fourth quarter and went on a hiring spree.
Oh, wow, that's cheeky.
So did he, is my perception right?
He hijacked your gig and cut you guys out and took all the credit, basically?
Pretty much.
But in essence, what he wound up doing, you know, there was a board, there's always karma, right?
So there was a board investigation.
He was removed from office.
He put a crony in, and they summarily ran the company.
into the ground so it no longer exists today.
Wow. Wow. I know, right?
So what does this have to do with soul intelligence?
So the divine gave me a big time out, okay?
And because this was a wrongful termination, I had, I was given a very generous severance.
So I had a nine-month runway to figure out what do I really want to do with my life, right?
There you go.
Yeah.
And so.
Can I interrupt right there?
I'm sorry to interrupt you.
I don't want to cut off this great story that you have.
But I want to kind of accent a point if I could, you know, you mentioned that, you know,
you were finally doing something for yourself that, you know, you're asking yourself the
question, what do I want to do with my life?
Isn't that interesting when we come to that point?
Sometimes it's, you know, by our own making, I've been through that experience and you
have too as well, where someone was forced upon us.
But, you know, having that epiphany of thought, and maybe that's a question more people need
to ask themselves, what do I really want to do? Do I really want to do this? And a lot of people,
they do shitty jobs for 20, 30 years, five years, maybe shitty relationships. And they don't
ask themselves, you know, is this really what I want to do? Am I passionate about this? You know,
I even, I worked for myself for 13 years and hated all the companies that I owned and invested
in. I didn't hate them, but I wasn't having any fun. I didn't like them. I did,
them for money and CEO and to be the boss. But people would come up to me and I would about
break down. They would come up to me like, it's so great that you're an entrepreneur. You do some
your love. I was choosing companies I didn't love. They were just great investment vehicles.
And they're like, and I would tell them, I mean, like, I don't love any of this. I hate it. I don't
even like showing up for work every day. They're like, do you know how much money you make? And I'm like,
that doesn't change it. I just can't, I just can't do it. I just, I just, I, you know,
You know, I'm drinking at night because I just hate this.
And they're like, my God, you know, you've got all this stuff and you hate your life.
And there's a lot of people that are multimillionaires and very successful in life from whatever scale you want to place on success.
But they're not happy.
They're miserable because they're not doing, you know, what would I like to do?
So I think that's a real quandary you found yourself in and a great area for potential.
Absolutely.
You know, actually, it was a friend who prompted me because, you know, you go through.
through the panic, right? All the, all the things, right? Oh, my God, what am I going to do? I got a,
you know, a husband with cancer. I'm the breadwinner. Where are we going to do about benefits?
You know, all that stuff. And then once you realize, okay, I'm all right. I got a little time to
figure this out. I had a really good friend say to me, well, instead of just jumping back into
what you've always done, why don't you consider, you know, something you really want to do.
And so it was it was that passion or that that prompting really that got me to figure, you know, go inside, really spend time in meditation and prayer.
And I remember I had this incredibly powerful meditation where I had tears streaming down my face.
I knew that if I went back into corporate America, it would be like my soul would shrivel up and die, right?
And so what I realized now, that was my soul intelligence screaming at me, that inner knowing, that inner voice.
We talk about IQ.
That's pretty important stuff, right?
Factoring in all those things.
We know about EQ, which is emotional wellness and support and how you say what you say is equally important.
But soul intelligence is really that inner knowing, that inner voice.
And, you know, when I started to really think about what is it that I really want to do,
I had to really, I had to really listen to divine guidance at the time. And I'll tell you how
the method came about. But one of the things that you said really struck, struck a chord with me
too. When I think about, you know, I think Brandon Bouchard said it best. He talked about how many
of us stay in our zone of excellence for a very long time, right? Brandon Bouchard has a book
called Average Sucks. I just love the name of the book. But in that, he talks about these different
levels and you know you got a zone of incompetence things we should never do like christine try and fix a car
you know then you got zone of you know competence it's okay but i probably should delegate that crap out
and then you get to the zone of excellence and the zone of excellence is where we tend to stay for
most of our career right um people see us in that role we identify with that role we get paid
really well for that role and you know i was a corporate badass that was my role i was really good at
And then something happens that causes you to go, you know what, I'm unsatisfied, I need to step into my zone of genius.
And that's really what soul intelligence is.
So a number of years prior, I had done, I'd taken, you know, learned a method where you use a book of charts and a pendulum.
And it felt very rigid, kind of religious and very restrictive.
But I at least had the concept down.
And so the idea was to be able to shift things that weren't working well.
And I would actually use that book in my hotel room, as I'm in right now, because I travel a lot,
Stephen Still.
And I would do behind the scenes, I would figure out what underlying energy was holding this team back.
What underlying energy or theme was going on within the company so they weren't achieving their objectives that people couldn't see.
I just wouldn't walk into a boardroom with a book of charts and a pendulum, right?
So I kind of had this concept down.
And then once I got quiet and I listened, the charts just kind of flew, flew in.
And that's how soul intelligence was born.
How did I get it out into the world is probably a different story?
Because, you know, how do you go from being this, you know, crazy corporate warrior, you know, plane hopping adrenal junkie to going, hey, I'm coming out in the spiritual closet now?
You know, so I think it was, I, I had kind of one foot in the work world and one foot in the spiritual world, I guess.
I kind of straddled the two for a little while.
So I created a leadership program, about a 12-week program.
I took all of my corporate wisdom and I put it into this program.
And I pitched CEOs.
And I said, hey, what if you give me 12 weeks, give me one quarter?
and I can get your middle managers to become senior leaders,
your senior leaders to be ready for the C-suite
and get all of them and their teams to be motivated from the inside out
so that they'll run through the fire for you being lit up by their mission,
their vision, their values, and your purpose.
Would you want that?
And everybody said, yes, of course.
I put together this 12-week program, and it was online, right?
I did a group program because it was COVID times.
I did a one-on-one in the beginning where we talked about,
where your energy naturally wants to go.
It's called the game-changing index,
a tool I still use today.
It's out of the UK,
and it helps people find out whether they're game changes or not.
So it's super cool.
And then the midpoint, I would do a one-on-one with them,
kind of talking about how the methods working for them,
like all of the things I taught them in the course,
you know, in the leadership program,
what's working with their teams and what's not.
And then by the end,
I would do one final one-on-one, and I would ask them, okay, we can talk about where your team is,
where you want to go, how things are going, and what you want to set up going forward,
or we can talk about the root cause of why your team's in the shape it's in in the first place
and why everything is falling apart for you in your personal life.
But you've got to take a risk walk with me, and we'll do a soul intelligence session.
Every single person took me up on the sole intelligence session, so I knew I was on to something.
And that's how I introduced it.
There you go.
And who can benefit from the Soul Intelligence Method?
Who are the target market of people that you like to work with or that, you know, qualified to work with you?
I mean, imagine, you know, people need to have something going on to work with you or, you know.
So who's the target there?
It's interesting that you say that.
I've worked in the field of functional medicine primarily because functional medicine and integrative medicine doctors are open.
to a lot of different ways of healing, right?
They're open to, like, infrared light therapy.
They're open to, you know, emotional healing,
vibrational healing, alternative therapies, nutrition,
like all kinds of good stuff to help people heal naturally.
So that's been the field that I've been operating in.
And the way I got into that is I took a chance
and I emailed my doctor, who happens to be a triple board certified MD.
She actually wrote the forward to my book.
And she's also on Tony Robbins medical team.
She's a Dr. Lisa coach.
She's a pretty amazing lady.
And I said, hey, I know you know me as this crazy, you know, plane hopping adrenal junkie.
But I do have this other side to me.
I know I can shift energy up and out of people's physical, mental, and emotional bodies
to help them heal completely and holistically.
I'll tell you what, I'll clear my whole afternoon.
And I'll come down and I'll sit in your office.
And when you're ready, I'll do a session for you.
And she's like, sure, why not?
So I came down and she was with a patient, but one of her colleagues, who's a chiropractor
in her office, had three clients cancel at the last minute, three patients.
And she's like, this never happens.
I said, aha, divine intervention.
So I sat down with her.
I did a soul intelligence session with her.
She had such a release.
She was crying.
She like kicked her water all over the floor, like, you know, emotions flying everywhere.
And she said, I don't understand how you know all this stuff.
about me like all these specific things and I said well it's you know the information's coming to me
through these charts and I'm just sharing with you what's coming through and we're just shifting
what's no longer needed so as she's like kind of releasing and crying at that moment my doctor
knocked on the door she put her head in and she goes oh wow I was just checking to see how things
are going game on I'm next and that's how it happened oh wow so then I did a session
for her, her colleagues, you know, her staff, her patients. And I started to work cooperatively
in functional medicine. Wow. This benefits everybody. I mean, that's the point, right? If you're
not doing well, I mean, the thing is, is that the method is founded in science. It's bioenergetics
was documented in the 1950s by Dr. Alexander Lowen. And what he did is he basically said,
to me it's kind of common sense, but if you're physically not doing well, mentally and emotionally,
you're not doing so hot.
And it just basically means that the physical body, the mental body, and the emotional body
are all connected, we're all one being, which is why functional medicine that treats the
whole person is such a great field for me to work in.
And so if we can figure out what the underlying emotional root cause is, keeping that
chronic illness in place, then we can help somebody heal completely.
Because if you don't heal the underlying emotions that are stuck there, which caused the disease in the first place, then the person might heal temporarily.
It may come back.
Or we'll heal one thing and then something else will go wrong.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now, you've got it several things going on.
We were talking about a pre-show.
You've been on some billboards and got some Las Vegas production stuff.
Tell us about some of the accolades you've been acquiring recently.
getting media. Oh my gosh. Well, yeah, I was just on the cover of Solish magazine. And then they took me
around Vegas in a rolling billboard, which is amazing. I know I just saw that by the spear yesterday.
That was pretty cool. I know, right? I had a Soul in the City book tour in October in New York City,
and I'm originally from New York City. And hence the last name, I do come by the term spiritual gangster,
honestly, with the last name of Genovese, that was great great on Scalvito.
Legit.
Oh, there you go.
Legit.
Legit.
Yeah.
So I actually had a Times Square billboard as part of my soul in the city book tour.
And it was amazing.
Like the old saying, if you make it there, you can make it anywhere.
But that's pretty near and dear to a New Yorker's heart, as you could imagine.
So that was pretty super cool.
And I received a book award from Best Holistic Life magazine.
They named my book, Book of the Year for 2025, and I have a nod for 2026.
And so they asked me to be on their cover for January.
So I'm pretty excited about that.
Congratulations.
Thank you.
And then next year, I'm part of a movie called The Pillars of Power.
And that movie is based on what does it take for you to feel, like for you to be successful in all
the key pillars of your life, in essence.
And the basis of the movie is a lot of the pioneers from the secret.
Do you remember the secret?
The book, a lot of those pioneers like Dr. Joe Vitale and Marie Diamond,
Don't Asheroff, and some of those folks who were pioneers in transformation are in the
movie, along with today's transformational specialists like myself.
So I'm really looking forward to that coming out.
And those are some of the cool things that are going on.
I'm getting noticed.
I just had a huge article on BuzzFeed that came out this week.
That was a feature.
Yeah, I was like, wow, people are digging it.
And then, you know, energy medicine or vibrational medicine is actually, like I said,
it's founded in science.
It's quantum physics.
And we're recently healing people now using vibration to kill the outside membrane
of cancer cells.
So this is no longer Einstein's idea.
that the future of medicine will be frequency, this is actually legit and we're living in a time
where it's becoming more and more common for people to understand how all this works.
There you go. There you go. So let's talk about some of the offerings on your website.
How can people utilize you? Of course, how can they reach out to you to get you to know you better?
But also to see if they're a fit for the program, if you're willing to work with them, et cetera, et cetera.
Oh, sure. If people go to soul intelligence method.com, I've got lots of different offerings on there.
What I'm really most passionate about is I want to see soul intelligence method in wellness centers throughout the country.
So I have a course that teaches people how to become a neuro energetic health care professional.
So you can actually learn to do this work for yourself and others.
I do run. I know, right? So I certify people in the method.
so that they can do this.
So if you're, you know, if you're into holistic healing,
if you have this desire to help people and you just haven't found what, you know,
what can I do?
This might be something for you to consider.
A lot of the people that I work with have tried everything.
I kind of get people who are on the verge of losing hope and then I'm able to help them shift.
And then once we're able to get things out of their mental and emotional body,
then they're able to actually heal what's been challenging them on the physical level.
Ah, you know, they say that what's manifested in the mind, it gets mirrored in the body.
Sometimes if we have poor thoughts, depressive thoughts, things of that nature, you know, it tends to affect us, right?
Absolutely.
As a matter of fact, the way I share with people is that your physical body is really the barometer to what's going on in your subconscious mind.
And that's where all of those things get stored.
All of those unresolved emotions, that old trauma, old patterns, self-limber beliefs.
All of that stuff is stuck there.
And so people are like, okay, if it's there, how do I access it?
And that's what the method allows me to do is to figure out what's stuck there and what
needs to shift so that somebody can heal completely.
Ah, well, that's wonderful.
What a wonderful thing.
Well, I'm running weekend workshops starting in January again, which I'm excited about.
For people who are just interested in learning it for themselves, where I can teach them in about eight hours how to do something cool over a two-day period.
And, yeah, to try and heal themselves.
I don't know, Chris, maybe you want to do that.
I need to, like, my therapist, when he saw me show up, he said, hang on one second.
He started on himself a boat.
He bought a really big boat.
That's nice.
And then I do have a monthly program if people want to experience the method firsthand.
It's a group session that I offer online.
And if you're interested in learning more, you can sign up on my website to be on my email list so that you can get all the information.
But my book is actually available on Amazon and Kindle.
And I went out to L.A. and I recorded the audio version.
And I've had several people tell me that they've done the audio version and it feels like they're getting a healing.
So, yeah, because I'm reading it to him.
You got your voice and you're reading the data and, you know, the, yeah, people really like it when people do their own audio book, you know.
I think so.
I had a girlfriend tell me, you know, I said, yeah, I didn't really care for Matthew McConaughey's book.
She's like, did you get the audio book?
Oh, I was reading it.
I went, no.
And then I liked it magically.
I do that when I'm on Facebook and dating.
and I see someone I'm interested in.
I always send them a voice message instead of, you know, a text message.
And boy, that's a closer right there.
Is it?
Oh, my God.
Your voice is so deep and amazing.
You know, I even have women say, you know, I'm not really your type, Chris,
but can we just keep talking as friends?
Because I'm just enthralled by your voice.
And I'm like, no, you'll have to go to my only fans to pay for that service.
You got to do it work, right?
Yeah, that very white voice said, baby, what's going?
But no, people like it.
They find it's more intimate.
I've hated books that I thought were going to be read by the author.
And, you know, they're great orators or, you know, most great at Hollywood people.
They're great orators.
And they know how to punch a line and makes things just sound so much better, unlike me.
And so, yeah.
So it looks like here on your site, I see some bundles that people, I'm going to tease these out so that we can tap into some people if they're into, you know, this is their lane.
energy, I'm sorry, energetic messages bundled.
You've got a bundle of three energetic massage sessions,
executive coaching, energetic intake, energetic massage sessions.
So people can book all sorts of different times of the author website.
They can learn more.
They can read some your data.
Of course, they can read the book.
That's a great gateway drug to most everyone's services as a consultant.
You've got that book.
You're like, all right, well, buy the book, and then you're going to be hooked on me.
Well, I should probably explain what, you know, energy.
Someone told me to use the term energetic massage.
But in essence, what it is, right, you go to a chiropractor for a biomechanical adjustment.
You come to me for bioenergy energetic adjustment.
So we're kind of massaging all of those things out of the body, out of the subconscious mind,
so they can be transmuted.
Because once energy is created, it can't be destroyed, right?
It's got to go somewhere.
That's a scientific fact.
And everybody in everything is energy.
And I think we forget that, that were protons, neutrons, electrons in this vibrating, you know, electromagnetic field because we're physical, we're corporal.
But essentially, the only way that we're able to see each other right now is through the Internet, which is frequency and information that's coming through and being received, whether it's being received through somebody's phone, the computer, or even our brains, right?
So we always are taking information in.
we attract energy and frequency into our body as well as send it out.
And so a lot of times people aren't understanding why they don't feel right.
And it's because of the people that are around them, they're picking up on their energy and their stuff.
So sometimes when I'm shifting things for an individual, things change dynamically in a great way for them in their relationships, in their families, in their businesses.
So it's a pretty big impact, no matter where we do the work.
There you go.
So tease people out, the final pitch out to people, where they can book with you, how they can find out more, all that good stuff.
The best way to get a hold of me is to go to my website at Sol, S-O-U-L, Intelligence Method.com.
If you're interested in just kind of following me on social and all my crazy media travels and fun things like that, you can certainly find me using my name, Christine Genovese with a K.
or Christine M. Genovese on Insta.
I'm around.
I'm easy to find, and I would love the opportunity to help more people learn this method in the world.
That's really the mission I'm called to do.
There you go.
And you've found your purpose by asking, what is my purpose of life?
What do I really like to do if I had the time, money, and effort and stuff?
And I think more people need to ask that of themselves.
And certainly finding energy in doing something you love.
as opposed to something you see as a chore, you know, for an example, on my podcast I love to do.
I love interviewing people.
I love talking to people.
I love hearing their stories.
And I learned so much.
I may learn more than my audience because I get the front row of seat.
And I love it.
And so you don't have to twist my arm to show up every day.
I mean, there might be a day where I'm sick or something or I haven't slept well.
But even then, you know, I get up and do my thing.
and, you know, once I get on, I mount up into the seat, it's, you find people and they're
interesting and, of course, you have to find people interesting too, but they've got their
stories and I'm going to learn something. And so, you know, I'm usually, even if I'm tired,
I'm usually like, I'm, okay, well, we're in the seat. Let's learn something today. And I meet the
people and they're wonderful. And they've got great knowledge that they've spent, you know,
like you yourself, 20, 25 years developing. So I get, they get to come on my show for 30
minutes. We learn all this great stuff, me in the audience. And so yeah, when you, when you love
something and you're willing to show up and you'd work whether you got paid or not for it,
that's probably, you know, something you should do your purpose for. As long as someone else is
willing to pay you for it, because, you know, you're just going to live in a van down by the river.
I don't think I was going to pay to watch that. I don't know. There might be, it might be an
only fan's channel opportunity there. I don't know. If so, somebody let me know,
because I'm just going to buy a van down by the river
and just sit down there and put a camera on me
and I'll just wave at the camera every now and then
so that pays the bills so fine with me I guess I don't know
well thank you very much for coming on the show
we really appreciate it's been fun and insightful to have you on
thank you very much absolutely thanks for having me Chris
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