The Chris Voss Show - The Chris Voss Show Podcast – Hellish Inc (A Hellish Inc Series) by David Adamson

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Hellish Inc (A Hellish Inc Series) by David Adamson https://www.amazon.com/Hellish-Inc-David-Adamson/dp/1960093185 Davidadamson.ca Hellish Inc is a compelling work from the mind of the dead. As seen, in the first person through the eyes of Angels, Gods and Goddesses. The story spans more than 25,000 years of Earth’s history, in a series of flashbacks. Entities and beings from all the unknown realms, come to pass; like seasons in the lenses of the senses. These beings wield incredible power, unmatched in, and written about in legend. The stuff of Myths, lost through the ages of War and upheaval. The reader is taken into ancient times here on Earth, and into before unknown, unseen, reaches of Heaven and Hell. From the point of view of the first person, when the shit hits the fan, there’s no where to hide.

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Today's featured author comes to us from books to lifemarketing.co.com. With expert publishing to strategic marketing, they help authors reach their audience and maximize their book success. Anyway, we have an amazing young man on the show today. And he's clearly ready to be on a show where I'm full of it. So David Adamson joins us on the show. He's part of an amazing series that he started at books, and you want to be sure to check him out. His first one in the series is called Hellish Incorporated.

Part of the A Hellish Incorporated series out March 23, 23. We're going to get into it with him. We're going to find out some of his insights and explore some of that wonderful things. He's writing there, and boy, he's pretty prolific. He's writing a lot of good stuff. You're going to want to be checking out, putting your library, picking up there at Amazon. Amazon or refine books are sold. Let's get into it. Give us the dot-coms. Where can people find

out more about you and your writing and what you do on the interwebs? I do have a YouTube channel. I'm not on it a lot. I don't post very much. I hired someone to help me put some clips and short bids and stuff on. And I'm slowly learning how to do it myself. Also, I have a website. It's Davidadamsson.ca. You can find me on the normal places like Facebook and Instagram. Once again, it's a lot to do with my age. I'm not a big social media person. And it's putting yourself out there. So this opportunity, being able to come on to Chris Vosho is amazing. It's amazing because at 65 years of age, I mean, my life has never had this technical advantage.

I remember when cell phones came in, I remember having a rotary telephone in the house that grew up in as a child. Yeah. We used to have to do the podcast with one of those tapper things. You know, the dot, dot, dot, dot, dash, dash, dash thing. That's how we used to have to do the podcast. Oh, so like you.

Yeah, yeah, teletype and stuff. We would, we'd have to ask the guest questions and the half an hour they'd respond from across the country on the wire. It reminds me of the days when I used to play chess. So back in the day when I used to play chess a lot, we used to play snail mail chess. So you would get a letter in the mail. It would be a brief introduction as to who your opponent was.

He would tell you a bit about himself. And then if he was white, obviously he'd email you first, he would make a move. So then you would take a day or two to think about it, whatever, and then you'd write a short clip back, and then you'd send it back. But just to get those two moves, then you were probably talking two weeks, three weeks. So a game that could go on for a couple years. So let's get into your series. You've got two books in the series now. Let's talk about the first one,

and we'll talk about some of the other work you have coming after. Give us a 30,000 overview. What's inside this book? I just lovingly put it the way when I wrote it. Hellishink is a compelling work from the mind of the dead. As seen in the eyes of the angels and gods through the first person. The story spans more than 25,000 years. I want to, I want to include that so the book really comes from what happened to me in my past. When I was younger in my late

teams, I was with a young lady. She became pregnant and had a child. The child was born terminal, and I spent 15 hours with him in the ICU until he passed. So he told me this story at that time, which is this, this is the sort of spirituality thing that my life has been exposed to all throughout my life. He told me the story. At that time, I couldn't handle the story that he told me. I really couldn't handle losing my son. I went through a difficult time period for a couple of years and then one day I just decided that I was going to live this life and I wasn't going to mess it up because I'd been given like a real a real opportunity.

So I straightened my life out, whatever had happened. I straightened everything out that I could. Never became unemployed at that time, but just wasn't, you know, I wasn't not being a good person. Oh. So I put the book in the back of my mind and I didn't really deal with it because I was still having spiritual things. Eventually I became married. Years went by.

lots and lots and lots of life events happen. But during the divorce, he came back to me. And he told me, you have the life experience. Now, so write the story that I told you all those years. So this would be 39 years now, which would have passed between the time he told me the story and now. And so what I did was I had all this information that I had to make sense of. And if I was going to write a story, I didn't really know how to do it. So when I started to write, it started coming out like poems, like short blurbs, three, four hundred words, five hundred words.

And then I started to... Sorry about that. And so then I just started to figure that, you know, I can make a story of this if I do some study. So I started studying as much as I could about geographical locations and cultures where the characters were going to be. And I got help. I mean, my son came back to me and told me to write the story. So he gave me little pointers here and there. Once in a while, I felt his presence when he helped me choose a location. Like their characters started out in the Middle East. They moved into places like Pakistan, India, China. And I was unfamiliar with these areas. And they were unfamiliar with these areas.

never have traveled overseas. So I have no understanding firsthand or first person with the culture or the land. And I really didn't understand writing. So the story came very easily. I was writing and it was just pouring out of me. But when I got to the transition point, I hit a wall and I didn't know how to write the transition.

And I didn't understand what it was. And that's when my son actually pointed something out to me. There was a song written by a band, a popular band, called ZZ Talk. And it was the, I'm a fool for your sock, socks. And that's all he would tell me. So I started thinking, I need to know more about what it is about, what are you writing when you're writing something? what is any artist writing what are they trying to sort of are they trying to sort of calm the

waters are they trying to i don't know bring some kind of emotional response and and how do they do it so i started looking into the band i started looking into when they started up i mean i listened to their music for years i listened to a lot of music led zapp and van halen you know you You can go on on, Pink Floyd, whatever. But I really didn't study bands. I really didn't study the people that were in the band. Didn't study with their music, the background. But this is what artists are all about.

Artists are all about being representative to who they play to. They consider their audience. The same thing that an author does. You consider your audience. So when I started looking into it, I found out that Zizi Tal had taken the music that was played by the buglers of the Mexican army when they were attacking the Alamo.

So they took that, that song, and they changed the timing in the temple, and they added words over top. So they were basically trying to, they were trying to give longevity to what they were a part of. From being from the deep south, they wanted, they wanted to create music that reached their audience but also they wanted to have some background they wanted to have some depth okay now is this in the book david sorry i don't write about it in the book okay write anything to do with the band or what the song is okay but what i but what the song portrayed was surrender is acceptance so what so in order to write the transition i needed to understand that. That was a paradigm shift for me. That surrender was

acceptance. I grew up in a hands-on world where you know you pound nails, run saws, drive trucks, run heavy equipment. I was a paramedic for a few years. So how did that lead you into writing books? How did that lead you into writing books? Because we want to promote your book for you while we're here. Right. The story, the story just was so important for me to write the story that my son told me all those years ago, all the information was in my head, but I wasn't equipped with the ability to

all the finer nuances of writing. Okay. Like what I was saying, writing the transition. Once I understood that there is a definite, like a game plan to when you start to write and you produce a body of work, it has to follow a sort of a sequence. But what was really bizarre was, I could not write the story all in one goal.

It had to be in a series of flashbats. Okay. So the book constantly jumps forwards and backwards, like the storyline. It jumps forwards and backwards in the timeframe of the storyline. And I could not go back and edited and change it. in order to put it in some kind of chronological order, no matter what I did, and keep the thread of the story a lot.

I found myself I was able to embed certain keywords into the storyline. The only way I could think of handling this was I wanted to borrow on the experience I had as a chess player. So a chess player has two opposing sides. and basically you have a you have your side and you have the opposing side and you want to exchange an argument so I opposed the other side as being the reader so in order to give the reader information and keep them connected I wanted to figure out how was the best way to do this so I envisioned that there was a bombing run over a battlefield and the The bombing run comes in three phases, past, present, and future.

So the bombing run flies over the battlefield. There's myself and the opponent, being the reader. I want to give them information. And I want the story to have a past, present, and future. But I'm writing in the first person. And the first person is very hard to have the big view of stuff. Because when you're the first person, you see what's in front of you. You don't see the whole world.

But to give the worldview, I needed to find a way to embed that information. So what I did was the bombing run, the idea of the bombing run, as the bombs are being dropped, those are information packages. And they're being dropped on the reader and myself as a writer. That gives a connection. That way the reader feels connected, but not to me personally. but only as the narrator, right? Because my life and my experiences are not embedded in the story. This was an outlet for me to get through the divorce.

Oh, there you go. And, you know, it worked. I have sold hundreds of books myself personally, but they're not selling online. And so this, even doing this on the Chris Voss show, this is a way for me to get out there into the world and show to the world that this is a quality of product. Like I can walk up to a person on the street, ask them if they'd be interested in reading a book, and you know, they got their cell phone in their hand, you go, well, I don't read very much.

I just read a couple sentences or a paragraph and tell me what you think. Sure. I would love to hear your feedback. So they'll read a couple sentences and they read a paragraph and then they go, you know what? And they found through a couple more pages and they read a couple more paragraphs. And you go, this is okay. And they buy it. So it is a good story. All right.

Tell us about the characters in the book. Get us sold on the characters and some of the features there, the protagonists and maybe some of the counters. So the two main characters in the book are the fixer and the Mako. The fixer is the Hell's Angel. The Meiko is the Heavens Angel. The Meiko is also a word in Japanese. So you may have heard of the Mako shark.

I pronounce it poorly, but it's the Mako shark. So the Mako is a term for an angel that lived back in the time of the early time of Japan. And it's believed that the Meiko angel traveled during that time, and so they named her. Now, I did some research, and there are 10 languages on Earth. in different cultures that also have a word in their language that describes the Meiko angel. And so I pulled from that or drew from that and I decided that mayco must have traveled to these areas on earth

for there to be like a cultural, cultural awareness of the angel. So that's how I created that she was going to be changed and then traveled the earth looking for truth that were embedded in the earth by the gods and goddesses of past and the hell's angel, the fixer

was going to be part of a purchase. So this became the idea of Hellish Incorporated that there was a business transaction going on between hell and heaven. And she was going to be part of a purchase that was going to guarantee his presence at the Battle of Evermore at the end of days. So the storyline spans from the beginning of time to the end of time.

And it's a series of flashbacks where the angels come into contact and out of contact, they fight, they have dealings with humans on Earth. but only in the spiritual realm. So I don't write about people. I don't write about if they die. I deal strictly with the spiritual. I name gods of every culture, goddesses that are not written about. And it's all legend and myth,

and it's all blended into historical context. So I've worked in different times on earth, and I just seed those different times, with the appearance and then them leaving and give it a

it gives it a real twist because that way I'm not that way I'm not stepping on culture stepping on religion stepping on anyone's beliefs and I'm not involved

and none of the story is designed to do anything but challenge your faith and encourage your faith even though it's written very bluntly because we're we're not kids. The book is called Hellish Incorporated. There's going

to be profanity in it. There's going to be the reality of the situation. But it's not meant to be vulgar. It's only meant to grab your attention. Okay. Now you have a second book in the series out and what's the title of that book? That book is between the gates

and what happens towards the end to in order to create that cliffhanger at the end of the first book. They the two main characters become separated and the fixer is ordered by hell to find her huh

do we lose your audio there David looks like we locked up there you're back you're back sorry the fixer is ordered to find the Mako who has separated from him towards the end of the first book. And hell orders the fixer to find the meiko.

And the maker, the fixer, has to find her only through a deception in heaven. So he creates a deception in heaven. He gets her location, but he keeps it secret from hell. And hell is not impressed with what the fixer has done and threatens to replace him. because he was supposed to be at the Battle of Evermore at the end. And without her paying for her misdeeds by digging up all these truths on Earth and the purchase and the deal-making that went on, he hides her true location because he begins to suspect that there's more behind the deal. so the cliphanger is found by when the deal is done and he leaves heaven with her position and her location

to go to hell he then escapes hell to go find her not knowing that this was also planned and it was planned and it's a high stakes game that's being played so the idea of the between the gates is the mako is caught between the gates of heaven and hell and if she's caught she's going to end up in a pyre on the river banks of sticks and hell that's no fun and that is not going to enable her to finish

what she set out to do yeah fire has a way of doing that yes it's funny the way I write hell is that there is fire there. But the biggest thing is the river sticks as like this turbulent river that is very virulent. It strips the soul of its heavenly gifts. And that's why then you become lost because all the lost boys in hell or everyone is lost when they're in hell. But they're not gone, but the heaven's essence is stripped from them. And a script through the passage of the river sticks.

And in Greek mythology, they used to put coins on their eyes when they passed away is to pay the ferry man. Oh, yeah, that's right. I remember that. Right the ferry, ride the ferry across the river and not become lost. Pay the toll master. So you mix a lot of, I guess, mysticism, belief and knowledge, misculture, religion, faith. faith, belief. Talk to us about some of these things that you deal with, science, alchemy, philosophy, conscience. A lot of this you seem to blend it into the books. Talk to us about why these

aspects are important to you. So I can talk about one thing there. The idea of philosophy, religion, mythology, one thing that stuck in my mind was when I started looking back into a lot of stuff, I was really struck on this thing about duality. So the idea of duality, how does that fit into the way the world works and the way gods and goddesses are. With duality, you would think it's hot and cold or it's right and laughter, it's up and down, but also duality is good and evil, right? And in the idea that psychologically, we can be good and we can be bad. But how is that really possible?

are you not if you're a good person can you still be bad I guess like you mean good people sometimes have to lie in order to get out of a sticky situation but psychologically

people have problems in their upbringing and so they take on different characters they they decide to maybe be destructive or they decide not to act truthfully, and if they can get away with it, then they start living a dual life.

But in the spiritual world, that doesn't work out so well, except if you have a duality as a God, that means that there is a side that the good side showed, and there's a side that the bad side shows. And there's a lot written on duality in the spiritual realm. That gods are both good and bad. That they do that in order to gain access or gain reverence from the masses. I don't want to say one way or the other, whether that's right or wrong. I definitely believe in God, I believe in heaven, I believe that there is evil, I don't want to say that there is a hell, but my books, my book writes about the possibility of there being a hell. Now, I believe that we all have consequences for our actions, and I try never to judge people because there is a higher power that is going to judge us.

And in writing the books, people can read the story and it can give them a chance to reflect and think about what is right and wrong. What are the paths that they're treading on? Are those paths going to leave somewhere in the afterlife? And that's if you believe there's an afterlife. But if you're an atheist and you just believe that you're just like a stone on the ground and you're animate while you're walking around and then you're inanimate and you die and you don't go anywhere, that's fine. But my experience in life is totally different, having had many spiritual connections throughout my whole life. So now, I believe you said you have a third and fourth book potentially working and you see this series going on for quite some. time maybe yes so the third book that I'm writing now through the firmament the idea is is it

when the when the fixer and the makeo come back together they have to strike a deal because they need to get to heaven he needs to be at the battle of evermore she needs to go to the pyre on the river sticks if she doesn't go there he's going to be replaced If she goes there, he will lose his ability to be at the Battle of Evermore because hell will find out that he deceived hell. So they team up. But to go back to heaven to resolve it, there is only one way through the firmament. and she's given it at the very end of the at the very end of between the gates she's given the key to the pearl nautilus which is the ship that in cases heaven

and with the key she can pierce the firmament and the team can travel through the firmament and go to heaven because the hell's angel and his entourage are not allowed in heaven but they need to appear in heaven because if they don't appear in heaven they're not going to be able to like finalize the purchase price like i said earlier to purchase was arranged for her and that is part of the deal-making so without unearthing so to speak and sort of being a spoiler for the book i won't explain how the purchase is yeah yeah we want to save some of that stuff for, you got to buy the book to find out how it ends. The other book that I'm writing is this beautiful lady behind me,

Hanna. So this book came right out of the blue. She came to me in a dream three times. Wow. Three different dreams. And she explained her life and her situation. Wow. And I started looking at her life and her situation,

and I started realizing, wow, I can borrow from the storyline in Hellish, and between the gates because i do talk a little bit about in there about the white silk road it runs from china through india pakistan afghanistan into the northern regions of europe that at that time there was and still today is called a peach festival there is a peach festival in india and in china where they they at the at the original peach festival they created an elixir and the elixir creates an immortal and they believe that they created the first immortal more than 45,000 years ago and every 6,000 years they create a new immortal and so the peach festival is a festival of immortality and during the time I envisioned that when they were

creating the elixir there were many I don't know false starts if you would They create something, they wanted to try it out, so they gave it to shawmans and business travelers who are traveling down the white silk road to try the elixir on different people. And from the storyline, I find out, or I find a way to write, they don't find out, but I find a way to write, that they then were able to create the shapeshifters, the werewolves, the vampires, and the giants. because the elixir created different effects because it wasn't complete. And as they worked their way along modifying and enhancing the elixir, eventually they came across the finished product. And they found it through a peach. And the reason why they found it through a peach, peaches, Persian apples, apples, pears,

and a few others, the seeds contain cyanide. Cyanide in low-dose, what they call low-dose cyanide, it makes the cells more permeable. So the cells in your body operate very efficiently. So that allows nutrients to enter the cell, and it allows the waste products to exit freely. So the cells become very effective. And when they added the final ingredient, the ingredient that they found was adding low-dose cyanide to, the elixir, all of a sudden, when they tried that elixir, the first person they tried it on, he became

an immortal. And so they knew that it worked, so then they had what they called the Peach Festival. Now, I borrowed from the book thinking that she came to me in a dream, so she tells me her story, and her story is spanning back to 30,000 years. And so I'm thinking she could have been created at that time. So I took her story and I just mixed it with different parts that I could borrow from the storyline from Hellish.

And I found I could write it and it was like, wow, here I am over 20,000 words into a romantic slash vampire novel. that I was never a writer before I started writing Hellish and it's coming out very well. I'm very impressed. But I'm very much looking forward to finishing through the firmament and then I'm very much looking forward

to completing Hannah. And writing the books has been like a journey. It's been such a journey and I've really enjoyed the whole journey. ups and downs and sleepless nights and it's just like they say completing a book and writing a book is like giving birth to a child you know when you when you have a child you don't know what effect that child is going to have on society it's going to have its own life and everybody is going to

interpret that child from their point of view and that child is going to interpret his life from his point of view we all give our children the best guidance that we can we we we we we we We educate them. We provide them with education. We give them a start in life. But we don't know what that child is going to be capable of. That anyone can fall into ruin. Anyone can elevate themselves to masters or doctors or presidents. Anyone can create new inventions. But some people struggle in life. from birth their parents don't provide them with what they need and once again we don't know what that child is going to be capable of so writing a book is a lot like that i have no idea the life that the book is going to have i don't know how it's going to affect the lives of others i only know

that my intention is to write a book like this that allows people to build their faith and i I don't know, if you are an atheist and you don't believe in religion, then maybe it will give you some more solid ground to walk on. But at least it will challenge you and it will get you reading. Because our minds are capable of so much. We depend so much today, it seems, on computers, laptops, cell phones. I mean, I grew up in a time where I created so much in my mind. I would structurally kind of design like a little model or something of something

that I wanted to build and then I'd go out building it and you know we created things where you know you had a tin can and string between the two and you figured out how you could talk to people in a tin can and the voice was carried down a string and I always wondered how that would work you know and I wondered about a lot of things I grew up on a hobby farm so we had we had animals yeah I saw a new birth I saw life I saw eventual death of the animals and I knew I knew that my mortality was Dutch. But, yeah, my writing is just for that reason. It's interesting how all this stuff shapes your writing

and shapes your, you know, the stories that you experience in life and how that shapes, you know, it basically gives you this rich bank that you can pull from of experiences and knowledge and all that sort of good stuff, right? Yeah. So as we go out, give people a final picture. out to pick up your book where they can find it.coms and all that good stuff. So my books are available on Goodreads, Amazon, Barnes & Noble. Basically, if you type in

hellish ink between the gates, it should come up by David Adamson. It should come up. My other two books are Future Works and hopefully will be published in 2026. The email address is Davidadamson.ca. And you can look at things that I've written on YouTube or and you may find you may find my my presence on Facebook or Instagram I am not you know I'm not I'm not I'm not regular on on social media being my day job as a truck driver long hours and away from home a lot but when I can be on there I'm on there and this will be awesome we'll look forward to seeing your future works thank you very much for coming the show. We really appreciate it, David.

Thank you very much. It's a pleasure to meet you, and it's a real opportunity. Yeah, and you too as well. I mean, I wish I, you know, I write business books, so I don't have the characters come talk to me, like a lot of novel writers like yourself there that come on the show and interaction with these people, and I'm just like, I'm kind of always jealous. Folks, pick up the book where refined books are sold. The first in the series is called Hellish Incorporated, a Hellish Inc. series out March 23rd, 2023, and you can pick up the further books and get familiar with David as he comes out with his future works. Thanks for us for us for us reads.com, Fortress, Chris Foss, LinkedIn.com, Fortress, Chris Foss,

one, the TikTokany, and all those crazy places in it. Be good to each other. Stay safe. We'll see you next. You've been listening to the most amazing, intelligent podcast ever made to improve your brain and your life. Warning, consuming too much of the Chris Washing. show podcast can lead to people thinking you're smarter, younger, and irresistible sexy. Consume in regularly moderated amounts. Consult a doctor for any resulting brain bleed. All right. Great show, David.